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Post by htfcterry on Nov 28, 2023 13:20:04 GMT 1
They both had a terrier spirit.... No spirit at all in Boore. So all you mean by 'terrier spirit' is winning? If you struggle to win, you must have no spirit? That really is a very childlike way to look at things. 'Spirit' to me is having the mental strength, courage and backbone to fight on in adversity. You and a lot of our fans are so lacking in this spirit that youre demanding from others , its untrue. To be fair, I think that the fans have had a build up of frustrations since 2019. I don’t think they lack spirit at all, to be still getting 12k walk through the stadium doors (probable actual attendance rather than gate) given what has gone on is incredible. Out of all what has happened in that time period, I think the last people to blame or scrutinise are the fans.
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Post by townrwe on Nov 28, 2023 13:29:30 GMT 1
Going to watch Town at the minute and abusing the players is like going to a Toby Carvery and moaning about there being tubes in your beef. If you want better quality, go somewhere else. Have a go at the board all you want but, FFS, appreciate the players are doing their best, putting a shift in and fighting like stink for every point. It’s not their fault they aren’t the most talented squad. It’s not their fault there aren’t enough of them to fill the bench. Giving them grief is pathetic. Whats pathetic is using not been able to fill the bench is lined up as an excuse. Losers/save me attitude, We have a B team and u19s squad. He found out that 3 players werent aviliable on friday, not at the game, to not have a full bench is another example of horrendous management.
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Post by htafcokay on Nov 28, 2023 13:43:15 GMT 1
Going to watch Town at the minute and abusing the players is like going to a Toby Carvery and moaning about there being tubes in your beef. If you want better quality, go somewhere else. Have a go at the board all you want but, FFS, appreciate the players are doing their best, putting a shift in and fighting like stink for every point. It’s not their fault they aren’t the most talented squad. It’s not their fault there aren’t enough of them to fill the bench. Giving them grief is pathetic. I don't think much abuse has been aimed at the players, especially on Saturday. Everyone can see that the players are putting the effort in. The anger has been directed more at the owners and the manager.
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Post by Werlinger on Nov 28, 2023 13:43:30 GMT 1
What does 'representative of the huddersfield community' mean? Our manager needs to be a dour Yorkshireman who moans a lot and wants terrier fighting spirit whilst frantically waving a white flag and announcing how doomed we are? I think he means thick.
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Post by townrwe on Nov 28, 2023 13:53:00 GMT 1
What does 'representative of the huddersfield community' mean? Our manager needs to be a dour Yorkshireman who moans a lot and wants terrier fighting spirit whilst frantically waving a white flag and announcing how doomed we are? I think he means thick. I think that box has been ticked and highlighted.
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Post by Teddington Ted on Nov 28, 2023 13:56:12 GMT 1
What does 'representative of the huddersfield community' mean? Our manager needs to be a dour Yorkshireman who moans a lot and wants terrier fighting spirit whilst frantically waving a white flag and announcing how doomed we are? I think he means thick. I think that’s being kind. It’s an odd comment. I wonder if he said the same when Chris Powell was in charge?
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Post by townrwe on Nov 28, 2023 14:06:07 GMT 1
I think that’s being kind. It’s an odd comment. I wonder if he said the same when Chris Powell was in charge? Sorry Ted.. your going to have to explain the relevance of Chris Powell when we are talking about Darren Moore as manager.
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Post by Captainslapper on Nov 28, 2023 14:24:29 GMT 1
So all you mean by 'terrier spirit' is winning? If you struggle to win, you must have no spirit? That really is a very childlike way to look at things. 'Spirit' to me is having the mental strength, courage and backbone to fight on in adversity.You and a lot of our fans are so lacking in this spirit that youre demanding from others , its untrue. No, The club currently has a losers attitude, poor me, look at the injuries, we need players in january,...... Blah, blah fucking blah, Some enthusiasm , Something for the fans to get behind, a style of play that we identify with, I hated the small dog thing, but it was bang on for now with our position, be the small dog with a big bite.. Spirit is having the backbone to give it a go, trying to win rather than trying not to lose. You have to take into account other factors though when managing in the real world. Injuries and form for example. Its about getting the result and might not be attractive but Moore came desperately close to getting a result at Hull and did get a result against an inform Southampton. You say Carlos had spirit...did he have spirit in that first season when we won 3 games in the last 24? Its so simplistic to say, Oh that side is winning and playing well, so they have spirit,,that team is losing so they dont have any. I didnt see any lack of spirit on Saturday. I saw a tactical plan by the team ( something that wasnt there earlier in Moores time here ) to take on a superior side and get a result. And had we had a bit more quality in any of the many times our tactics pressed Southampton into giving us possession high up the pitch, then we'd have won that game. Whilst we lacked that quality up front, the tactics and the spirit were good. You should show the terrier spirit youre demanding of others
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Post by castlehillterrier on Nov 28, 2023 14:29:18 GMT 1
Well he isnt going anywhere in the near future and I am 99% certain Darren will still be in charge come 31st January 2024, maybe a good idea for "townrwe" to get back to his / her school work and stop begging for something to happen that is not going to. Results will ultimately determine what happens and change peoples minds, 1 win in 10 at the moment. 12 games until the end of Jan... 9 points at current performance levels, his position is already untennable. Give him a few more games, Cartwright is putting his own repuation on the line as well, neither will get a job at this level again if he stays until jan 31st and doesnt collect 12-15 points. 9 or less and even boris johnson would throw them under the bus. Thats the challenge for both of them to save themselves, I hope they do well, introduce the attacking football and make a sucess of it, but im not blind to them both having shocking starts. Not happy clapping some of the worst football you will ever witness at any level, Poor communication across the club, Terrible summer recruitment, Decimated the squad with sales and terminations. If you can name one thing thats been positive while Moore and Cartwright have been involved, Im all ears. You wont be saying much in the way of attacking football in the near future, we dont have the players to do that right now. What you will see is a group of players with "spirit" and effort / work rate to play for Darren, if results dont come it wont be because of the coach but because of the injuries and current lack of squad depth, something MC and DM can not be blamed for DM came after the last window, and MC had very little involvement in the summer window he joined late, NW and RR were looking after all our summer ins and outs the only player that MC helped to identify was Burgzorg. The current football is based on how to try and get results with our current squad not a long term plan to play like this but its a plan to keep our heads above the bottom 3, anything more attacking and we would be pulled apart by many teams in this league, until new recruits come and injuries return its all about trying to grind our results like agaianst Southampton, I dont care how many points we get between now and January as long as we match or get more than the teams around us.
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Post by bblueterrier on Nov 28, 2023 14:36:16 GMT 1
Results will ultimately determine what happens and change peoples minds, 1 win in 10 at the moment. 12 games until the end of Jan... 9 points at current performance levels, his position is already untennable. Give him a few more games, Cartwright is putting his own repuation on the line as well, neither will get a job at this level again if he stays until jan 31st and doesnt collect 12-15 points. 9 or less and even boris johnson would throw them under the bus. Thats the challenge for both of them to save themselves, I hope they do well, introduce the attacking football and make a sucess of it, but im not blind to them both having shocking starts. Not happy clapping some of the worst football you will ever witness at any level, Poor communication across the club, Terrible summer recruitment, Decimated the squad with sales and terminations. If you can name one thing thats been positive while Moore and Cartwright have been involved, Im all ears. You wont be saying much in the way of attacking football in the near future, we dont have the players to do that right now. What you will see is a group of players with "spirit" and effort / work rate to play for Darren, if results dont come it wont be because of the coach but because of the injuries and current lack of squad depth, something MC and DM can not be blamed for DM came after the last window, and MC had very little involvement in the summer window he joined late, NW and RR were looking after all our summer ins and outs the only player that MC helped to identify was Burgzorg. The current football is based on how to try and get results with our current squad not a long term plan to play like this but its a plan to keep our heads above the bottom 3, anything more attacking and we would be pulled apart by many teams in this league, until new recruits come and injuries return its all about trying to grind our results like agaianst Southampton, I dont care how many points we get between now and January as long as we match or get more than the teams around us. As said above Burgzorg was the only real MC signing of the summer. Tom Edwards was the choice of Warnock & particularly Jepson who was a big fan. Moore is looking for a lot more pace & physicality in Jan.
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Post by htfcterry on Nov 28, 2023 14:40:15 GMT 1
Results will ultimately determine what happens and change peoples minds, 1 win in 10 at the moment. 12 games until the end of Jan... 9 points at current performance levels, his position is already untennable. Give him a few more games, Cartwright is putting his own repuation on the line as well, neither will get a job at this level again if he stays until jan 31st and doesnt collect 12-15 points. 9 or less and even boris johnson would throw them under the bus. Thats the challenge for both of them to save themselves, I hope they do well, introduce the attacking football and make a sucess of it, but im not blind to them both having shocking starts. Not happy clapping some of the worst football you will ever witness at any level, Poor communication across the club, Terrible summer recruitment, Decimated the squad with sales and terminations. If you can name one thing thats been positive while Moore and Cartwright have been involved, Im all ears. You wont be saying much in the way of attacking football in the near future, we dont have the players to do that right now. What you will see is a group of players with "spirit" and effort / work rate to play for Darren, if results dont come it wont be because of the coach but because of the injuries and current lack of squad depth, something MC and DM can not be blamed for DM came after the last window, and MC had very little involvement in the summer window he joined late, NW and RR were looking after all our summer ins and outs the only player that MC helped to identify was Burgzorg. The current football is based on how to try and get results with our current squad not a long term plan to play like this but its a plan to keep our heads above the bottom 3, anything more attacking and we would be pulled apart by many teams in this league, until new recruits come and injuries return its all about trying to grind our results like agaianst Southampton, I dont care how many points we get between now and January as long as we match or get more than the teams around us. THIS is exactly the problem. You're obviously involved with the club in some capacity/whether you are working there or close to someone there - and you/the club consistently give false hope. It's a constant merry go round of over promising and under delivering - it's been the same since 2019, going back to the "£20m training facility" which looks like a security hut at best, right through to bringing an attacking minded coach in, with a 3 year Premier League plan and appointing Darren Moore. Actions speak louder than words and the talk hasn't been followed up for many years. This then, naturally, leads to the frustration from fans - I'm surprised there is still so many people buying into this shit and still going to games. I heard the other day we'd sold a total of 56 tickets for Swansea away on Saturday - not sure if this is true but if it is, it's a result of the false promises coming out of the club/many other disappointing goings on.
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Post by castlehillterrier on Nov 28, 2023 14:59:44 GMT 1
You wont be saying much in the way of attacking football in the near future, we dont have the players to do that right now. What you will see is a group of players with "spirit" and effort / work rate to play for Darren, if results dont come it wont be because of the coach but because of the injuries and current lack of squad depth, something MC and DM can not be blamed for DM came after the last window, and MC had very little involvement in the summer window he joined late, NW and RR were looking after all our summer ins and outs the only player that MC helped to identify was Burgzorg. The current football is based on how to try and get results with our current squad not a long term plan to play like this but its a plan to keep our heads above the bottom 3, anything more attacking and we would be pulled apart by many teams in this league, until new recruits come and injuries return its all about trying to grind our results like agaianst Southampton, I dont care how many points we get between now and January as long as we match or get more than the teams around us. THIS is exactly the problem. You're obviously involved with the club in some capacity/whether you are working there or close to someone there - and you/the club consistently give false hope. It's a constant merry go round of over promising and under delivering - it's been the same since 2019, going back to the "£20m training facility" which looks like a security hut at best, right through to bringing an attacking minded coach in, with a 3 year Premier League plan and appointing Darren Moore. Actions speak louder than words and the talk hasn't been followed up for many years. This then, naturally, leads to the frustration from fans - I'm surprised there is still so many people buying into this shit and still going to games. I heard the other day we'd sold a total of 56 tickets for Swansea away on Saturday - not sure if this is true but if it is, it's a result of the false promises coming out of the club/many other disappointing goings on. first of all i am pretty sure we will have a bit more than 56 people at Swansea away, despite it being an awful place to go to, its cold, its close to Christmas, we are not playing amazing. its not false hope, we have a new owner, new staff, new manager, they need to be given chance currently I dont really know what people expect if after January the squad isnt improved and the results performances dont improve i full accept that is should be more negative and some changes at the point would need to be considered. We dont know though end of January we may all be delighted with the business, Darren maybe getting more results playing a little better football also. This issue is that people are judging a situation where someone has had no chance at all to change it, I really do not believe we would be in a much better position now if Neil had stayed on, possibly he would have picked up maybe a couple more points but we would be massivly behind in our planning for January without a new manger in place to make these plans with the recruitment team. Right now the players are all on board with Darren, his training is excellent, we are training more with less breaks, the atmosphere around the players and coaching team is far better than it was with NW earlier this season. It would be good to have more fans on board as the positive atmospheres help to lift the team. MC and DM and the recruitment team have a massive task on in January not only to bring in players but the right players to improve us, i have confidence they can acheive this.
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Post by htafcokay on Nov 28, 2023 15:04:46 GMT 1
THIS is exactly the problem. You're obviously involved with the club in some capacity/whether you are working there or close to someone there - and you/the club consistently give false hope. It's a constant merry go round of over promising and under delivering - it's been the same since 2019, going back to the "£20m training facility" which looks like a security hut at best, right through to bringing an attacking minded coach in, with a 3 year Premier League plan and appointing Darren Moore. Actions speak louder than words and the talk hasn't been followed up for many years. This then, naturally, leads to the frustration from fans - I'm surprised there is still so many people buying into this shit and still going to games. I heard the other day we'd sold a total of 56 tickets for Swansea away on Saturday - not sure if this is true but if it is, it's a result of the false promises coming out of the club/many other disappointing goings on. first of all i am pretty sure we will have a bit more than 56 people at Swansea away, despite it being an awful place to go to, its cold, its close to Christmas, we are not playing amazing. its not false hope, we have a new owner, new staff, new manager, they need to be given chance currently I dont really know what people expect if after January the squad isnt improved and the results performances dont improve i full accept that is should be more negative and some changes at the point would need to be considered. We dont know though end of January we may all be delighted with the business, Darren maybe getting more results playing a little better football also. This issue is that people are judging a situation where someone has had no chance at all to change it, I really do not believe we would be in a much better position now if Neil had stayed on, possibly he would have picked up maybe a couple more points but we would be massivly behind in our planning for January without a new manger in place to make these plans with the recruitment team. Right now the players are all on board with Darren, his training is excellent, we are training more with less breaks, the atmosphere around the players and coaching team is far better than it was with NW earlier this season. It would be good to have more fans on board as the positive atmospheres help to lift the team. MC and DM and the recruitment team have a massive task on in January not only to bring in players but the right players to improve us, i have confidence they can acheive this. Better performances and better results will lead to a better atmosphere.
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Post by royrace on Nov 28, 2023 15:13:44 GMT 1
You wont be saying much in the way of attacking football in the near future, we dont have the players to do that right now. What you will see is a group of players with "spirit" and effort / work rate to play for Darren, if results dont come it wont be because of the coach but because of the injuries and current lack of squad depth, something MC and DM can not be blamed for DM came after the last window, and MC had very little involvement in the summer window he joined late, NW and RR were looking after all our summer ins and outs the only player that MC helped to identify was Burgzorg. The current football is based on how to try and get results with our current squad not a long term plan to play like this but its a plan to keep our heads above the bottom 3, anything more attacking and we would be pulled apart by many teams in this league, until new recruits come and injuries return its all about trying to grind our results like agaianst Southampton, I dont care how many points we get between now and January as long as we match or get more than the teams around us. THIS is exactly the problem. You're obviously involved with the club in some capacity/whether you are working there or close to someone there - and you/the club consistently give false hope. It's a constant merry go round of over promising and under delivering - it's been the same since 2019, going back to the "£20m training facility" which looks like a security hut at best, right through to bringing an attacking minded coach in, with a 3 year Premier League plan and appointing Darren Moore. Actions speak louder than words and the talk hasn't been followed up for many years. This then, naturally, leads to the frustration from fans - I'm surprised there is still so many people buying into this shit and still going to games. I heard the other day we'd sold a total of 56 tickets for Swansea away on Saturday - not sure if this is true but if it is, it's a result of the false promises coming out of the club/many other disappointing goings on. He isn't! Although for some unfathomable reason plenty on here seem to have decided he is!
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Post by uptownfunk on Nov 28, 2023 15:13:58 GMT 1
Have to say today I saw an organised team with a gameplan with players all fighting. Players injured and not fit within a small squad is not easy for any manager. Witnessed a bloke who should know better wanting to fight town fans after we equalised no hint of a celebration. It was almost like he was disappointed we equalised. Booing the manager, chants against his subs without any knowledge about the injuries or fitness of the players was a disgrace. We will have no chance if this carries on, there will be more fights amongst fans and an atmosphere that will send us down. Today's effort did not deserve any abuse. Well said. I’ve had to stop bringing my lad to Town home matches as he hates the attacks on our own players and the nasty atmosphere. He’s scared it’s going to kick off- and he’s not wrong. Clearly there’s huge issues in society under this government. I know there’s a lot of angry, unhappy people out there. The anger and poison aimed at the players and management is worse than I’ve ever seen it tho and I’ve seen is in all 4 leagues with some shocking players over the years - far far worse than now. We’re in the championship ffs! A lot of fans have got this new owner wrong. He’s committed to building Town. That’s why he’s brought Darren Moore and Simon Ireland in. Their work is done at miller Oils and they’re doing a sound job with the group. It takes time. He’s not even had a transfer window. Defence is miles better. We have 3 quality Centre halves. Our star player is out but he’s back soon- Rudoni. Others coming back like Kasumu. The morale at miller oils yesterday was excellent. They played Saints team off the park second half for long periods. Yet I don’t see their massively high paid players getting abused by Saints fans. Get behind the team. Support the players, the coaches and the club. Constant sniping and negativity from fans is only ever harmful to the club. UTT
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Post by htfcterry on Nov 28, 2023 15:14:56 GMT 1
THIS is exactly the problem. You're obviously involved with the club in some capacity/whether you are working there or close to someone there - and you/the club consistently give false hope. It's a constant merry go round of over promising and under delivering - it's been the same since 2019, going back to the "£20m training facility" which looks like a security hut at best, right through to bringing an attacking minded coach in, with a 3 year Premier League plan and appointing Darren Moore. Actions speak louder than words and the talk hasn't been followed up for many years. This then, naturally, leads to the frustration from fans - I'm surprised there is still so many people buying into this shit and still going to games. I heard the other day we'd sold a total of 56 tickets for Swansea away on Saturday - not sure if this is true but if it is, it's a result of the false promises coming out of the club/many other disappointing goings on. first of all i am pretty sure we will have a bit more than 56 people at Swansea away, despite it being an awful place to go to, its cold, its close to Christmas, we are not playing amazing. its not false hope, we have a new owner, new staff, new manager, they need to be given chance currently I dont really know what people expect if after January the squad isnt improved and the results performances dont improve i full accept that is should be more negative and some changes at the point would need to be considered. We dont know though end of January we may all be delighted with the business, Darren maybe getting more results playing a little better football also. This issue is that people are judging a situation where someone has had no chance at all to change it, I really do not believe we would be in a much better position now if Neil had stayed on, possibly he would have picked up maybe a couple more points but we would be massivly behind in our planning for January without a new manger in place to make these plans with the recruitment team. Right now the players are all on board with Darren, his training is excellent, we are training more with less breaks, the atmosphere around the players and coaching team is far better than it was with NW earlier this season. It would be good to have more fans on board as the positive atmospheres help to lift the team. MC and DM and the recruitment team have a massive task on in January not only to bring in players but the right players to improve us, i have confidence they can acheive this. It's not down to the fans to get the fans on board. Let's see what happens, I'm taking any noise which comes out of the club with a pinch of salt.
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Post by htfcterry on Nov 28, 2023 15:16:18 GMT 1
THIS is exactly the problem. You're obviously involved with the club in some capacity/whether you are working there or close to someone there - and you/the club consistently give false hope. It's a constant merry go round of over promising and under delivering - it's been the same since 2019, going back to the "£20m training facility" which looks like a security hut at best, right through to bringing an attacking minded coach in, with a 3 year Premier League plan and appointing Darren Moore. Actions speak louder than words and the talk hasn't been followed up for many years. This then, naturally, leads to the frustration from fans - I'm surprised there is still so many people buying into this shit and still going to games. I heard the other day we'd sold a total of 56 tickets for Swansea away on Saturday - not sure if this is true but if it is, it's a result of the false promises coming out of the club/many other disappointing goings on. He isn't! Although for some unfathomable reason plenty on here seem to have decided he is! I did go onto say that they obviously are close to someone involved with the club... Read the rest 😊
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Post by htafcokay on Nov 28, 2023 15:20:11 GMT 1
Have to say today I saw an organised team with a gameplan with players all fighting. Players injured and not fit within a small squad is not easy for any manager. Witnessed a bloke who should know better wanting to fight town fans after we equalised no hint of a celebration. It was almost like he was disappointed we equalised. Booing the manager, chants against his subs without any knowledge about the injuries or fitness of the players was a disgrace. We will have no chance if this carries on, there will be more fights amongst fans and an atmosphere that will send us down. Today's effort did not deserve any abuse. Well said. I’ve had to stop bringing my lad to Town home matches as he hates the attacks on our own players and the nasty atmosphere. He’s scared it’s going to kick off- and he’s not wrong. Clearly there’s huge issues in society under this government. I know there’s a lot of angry, unhappy people out there. The anger and poison aimed at the players and management is worse than I’ve ever seen it tho and I’ve seen is in all 4 leagues with some shocking players over the years - far far worse than now. We’re in the championship ffs!
A lot of fans have got this new owner wrong. He’s committed to building Town. That’s why he’s brought Darren Moore and Simon Ireland in. Their work is done at miller Oils and they’re doing a sound job with the group. It takes time. He’s not even had a transfer window. Defence is miles better. We have 3 quality Centre halves. Our star player is out but he’s back soon- Rudoni. Others coming back like Kasumu. The morale at miller oils yesterday was excellent. They played Saints team off the park second half for long periods. Yet I don’t see their massively high paid players getting abused by Saints fans. Get behind the team. Support the players, the coaches and the club. Constant sniping and negativity from fans is only ever harmful to the club. UTT I'm sorry but I don't accept that, at all. It was much worse in the "old days". Crowds were far more hostile and unforgiving. Some examples I can think of include; Mick Wadsworth being chased down the tunnel after one game, fans storming the boardroom at Leeds Road in the early 1990s, Lukas Jutkiewicz abused that much during a game he had to come off, certain players being the target of the boo boys such as Dave Cowling and even earlier than that, Steve Smith, and most managers in the old days had fans throwing their season tickets at them. Several chairman had protests over the years, Longbottom even had death threats and was cornered by a bunch of fans outside Leeds Road, Rubery needed a police escort out of the ground when we were relegated. Not to mention the football violence aspect of things, which is virtually zero nowadays. Look at the trouble after the Peterborough Play-off match in 1992 on the pitch, or against Portsmouth at the McAlpine in the late 1990s. The crowd these days is far more tepid, and nowhere near as bad as it would have been in previous decades.
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Post by uptownfunk on Nov 28, 2023 15:20:56 GMT 1
first of all i am pretty sure we will have a bit more than 56 people at Swansea away, despite it being an awful place to go to, its cold, its close to Christmas, we are not playing amazing. its not false hope, we have a new owner, new staff, new manager, they need to be given chance currently I dont really know what people expect if after January the squad isnt improved and the results performances dont improve i full accept that is should be more negative and some changes at the point would need to be considered. We dont know though end of January we may all be delighted with the business, Darren maybe getting more results playing a little better football also. This issue is that people are judging a situation where someone has had no chance at all to change it, I really do not believe we would be in a much better position now if Neil had stayed on, possibly he would have picked up maybe a couple more points but we would be massivly behind in our planning for January without a new manger in place to make these plans with the recruitment team. Right now the players are all on board with Darren, his training is excellent, we are training more with less breaks, the atmosphere around the players and coaching team is far better than it was with NW earlier this season. It would be good to have more fans on board as the positive atmospheres help to lift the team. MC and DM and the recruitment team have a massive task on in January not only to bring in players but the right players to improve us, i have confidence they can acheive this. Better performances and better results will lead to a better atmosphere. As fans we need to look at what we can do to help the team, or what’s the point going? “To be entertained?” Footballer supporters, we’re not cinema goers. Boo if the film is crap. The actors can’t hear us… Shouting, screwing and endless brainless moaning from so tbose watching town is not supporting. It makes it harder for the palyers and management. Everyone in the ground needs to think why am I here, what do I want to see- a town win, how best can I help us achieve it. Back in the day we used to do it by chanting players names, good songs and then a long running blue and white army as we searched for a goal….
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Post by andyeastleake on Nov 28, 2023 15:21:12 GMT 1
Its about getting the result and might not be attractive but Moore came desperately close to getting a result at Hull and did get a result against an inform Southampton. And had we had a bit more quality in any of the many times our tactics pressed Southampton into giving us possession high up the pitch, then we'd have won that game. Could I ask were you at Hull Captain? I seriously doubt you'd be making any positive comments about that disgrace of a game if you were. We got what we deserved. ...& Did you only make the second half for Southampton. DM's tactices for the first 75% of those games would never have resulted in possession high up the pitch we SIMPLY weren't ever pressing high up the pitch and generally had 11 men behind the ball deep in our half. We were much better in the second half on Saturday when we ditched those tactics. Makes me at least wonder on two points. Would DM have changed tack without Southampton's goal and what would have happened if we'd not been as ridicously defensive earlier.
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Post by uptownfunk on Nov 28, 2023 15:22:23 GMT 1
He isn't! Although for some unfathomable reason plenty on here seem to have decided he is! I did go onto say that they obviously are close to someone involved with the club... Read the rest 😊 Why do you bother still going then? Just sack it off Terry.
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Post by htafcokay on Nov 28, 2023 15:23:30 GMT 1
Better performances and better results will lead to a better atmosphere. As fans we need to look at what we can do to help the team, or what’s the point going? “To be entertained?” Footballer supporters, we’re not cinema goers. Boo if the film is crap. The actors can’t hear us… Shouting, screwing and endless brainless moaning from so those watching town is not supporting. It makes it harder for the players and management. Everyone in the ground needs to think why am I here, what do I want to see- a town win, how best can I help us achieve it. Back in the day we used to do it by chanting players names, good songs and then a long running blue and white army as we searched for a goal…. So it's the fans' fault now? Back in the day, fans were just as bad, if not worse. It wasn't all a box of chocolates and there was always moaning, hostility, booing and abuse.
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Post by uptownfunk on Nov 28, 2023 15:25:09 GMT 1
Its about getting the result and might not be attractive but Moore came desperately close to getting a result at Hull and did get a result against an inform Southampton. And had we had a bit more quality in any of the many times our tactics pressed Southampton into giving us possession high up the pitch, then we'd have won that game. Could I ask were you at Hull Captain? I seriously doubt you'd be making any positive comments about that disgrace of a game if you were. We got what we deserved. ...& Did you only make the second half for Southampton. DM's tactices for the first 75% of those games would never have resulted in possession high up the pitch we SIMPLY weren't ever pressing high up the pitch and generally had 11 men behind the ball deep in our half. We were much better in the second half on Saturday when we ditched those tactics. Makes me at least wonder on two points. Would DM have changed tack without Southampton's goal and what would have happened if we'd not been as ridicously defensive earlier. Why do you presume to know better than Darren Moore. What are your football management credentials? Have you won any silverware or promotions?
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Post by uptownfunk on Nov 28, 2023 15:28:08 GMT 1
As fans we need to look at what we can do to help the team, or what’s the point going? “To be entertained?” Footballer supporters, we’re not cinema goers. Boo if the film is crap. The actors can’t hear us… Shouting, screwing and endless brainless moaning from so those watching town is not supporting. It makes it harder for the players and management. Everyone in the ground needs to think why am I here, what do I want to see- a town win, how best can I help us achieve it. Back in the day we used to do it by chanting players names, good songs and then a long running blue and white army as we searched for a goal…. So it's the fans' fault now? Back in the day, fans were just as bad, if not worse. It wasn't all a box of chocolates and there was always moaning, hostility, booing and abuse. There wasn’t ‘fans’ running down ailes to scream at players and others verbally abusing other town fans for applauding as has happened several times this season and last. Its gotten beyond a joke nowadays. So many angry people at games- and no way does that ammount of anger come about football. There were groups singing anti town songs and actual hatred for me when I started singing Darren moore’s barmy army. People saying “shut the f**k up” in front of my 10 year old. Embarrassing and disgraceful and would’ve been resolved differently had my boy not been with me.
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Post by htafcokay on Nov 28, 2023 15:32:54 GMT 1
So it's the fans' fault now? Back in the day, fans were just as bad, if not worse. It wasn't all a box of chocolates and there was always moaning, hostility, booing and abuse. There wasn’t ‘fans’ running down ailes to scream at players and others verbally abusing other town fans for applauding as has happened several times this season and last. Its gotten beyond a joke nowadays. So many angry people at games- and no way does that ammount of anger come about football. There were groups singing anti town songs and actual hatred for me when I started singing Darren moore’s barmy army. People saying “shut the f**k up” in front of my 10 year old. Embarrassing and disgraceful and would’ve been resolved differently had my boy not been with me. There was though. And while I do actually agree that Town fans fighting amongst themselves HAS increased over the last few years but there's one reason for that. Cocaine. But general hostility towards players, management, board members and so on has always been there and I would argue it's a lot calmer that it used to be years ago. When was the last time you heard anything chanting the manager out? Chanting the chairman/owner out? Abusing a player so much that he needs to be substituted?
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Post by andyeastleake on Nov 28, 2023 15:33:51 GMT 1
Could I ask were you at Hull Captain? I seriously doubt you'd be making any positive comments about that disgrace of a game if you were. We got what we deserved. ...& Did you only make the second half for Southampton. DM's tactices for the first 75% of those games would never have resulted in possession high up the pitch we SIMPLY weren't ever pressing high up the pitch and generally had 11 men behind the ball deep in our half. We were much better in the second half on Saturday when we ditched those tactics. Makes me at least wonder on two points. Would DM have changed tack without Southampton's goal and what would have happened if we'd not been as ridicously defensive earlier. Why do you presume to know better than Darren Moore. What are your football management credentials? Have you won any silverware or promotions? Did you enjoy any aspect of the 75% of those matches I refer to? ...although I'd wager you were nowhere near Hull on 11th November with your four posts. PS I don't have any football management credentials but I've seen sides led by managers who would never adopt those f*****g tactics PPS ...& the tactics that WERE successful for DM weren't those adopted for 75% of that time.
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Post by htfcterry on Nov 28, 2023 15:34:00 GMT 1
I did go onto say that they obviously are close to someone involved with the club... Read the rest 😊 Why do you bother still going then? Just sack it off Terry. Not that it's any of your business, but I've followed them up and down the country for years. I'm not about to stop cos someone who registered 45 mins ago is telling me to sack it off. We're also allowed to voice our opinions, it's kind of the reason we have fans forums...
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Post by townrwe on Nov 28, 2023 15:35:36 GMT 1
Its about getting the result and might not be attractive but Moore came desperately close to getting a result at Hull and did get a result against an inform Southampton. And had we had a bit more quality in any of the many times our tactics pressed Southampton into giving us possession high up the pitch, then we'd have won that game. Could I ask were you at Hull Captain? I seriously doubt you'd be making any positive comments about that disgrace of a game if you were. We got what we deserved. ...& Did you only make the second half for Southampton. DM's tactices for the first 75% of those games would never have resulted in possession high up the pitch we SIMPLY weren't ever pressing high up the pitch and generally had 11 men behind the ball deep in our half. We were much better in the second half on Saturday when we ditched those tactics. Makes me at least wonder on two points. Would DM have changed tack without Southampton's goal and what would have happened if we'd not been as ridicously defensive earlier. When we fluked the equaliser vs southampton we sat straight into that shape behind the ball we had during the first half, Any manager worth his salt, seeing that southampton just hadnt turned up second half, crowd finally behind somethingm, would have urged his players on, No, not moore, we sat back to defend the point we set out to get.
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Post by townrwe on Nov 28, 2023 15:37:18 GMT 1
So it's the fans' fault now? Back in the day, fans were just as bad, if not worse. It wasn't all a box of chocolates and there was always moaning, hostility, booing and abuse. There wasn’t ‘fans’ running down ailes to scream at players and others verbally abusing other town fans for applauding as has happened several times this season and last. Its gotten beyond a joke nowadays. So many angry people at games- and no way does that ammount of anger come about football. There were groups singing anti town songs and actual hatred for me when I started singing Darren moore’s barmy army. People saying “shut the f**k up” in front of my 10 year old. Embarrassing and disgraceful and would’ve been resolved differently had my boy not been with me. Some double standards there........
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Post by Sparrow on Nov 28, 2023 15:43:39 GMT 1
Going to watch Town at the minute and abusing the players is like going to a Toby Carvery and moaning about there being tubes in your beef. If you want better quality, go somewhere else. Have a go at the board all you want but, FFS, appreciate the players are doing their best, putting a shift in and fighting like stink for every point. It’s not their fault they aren’t the most talented squad. It’s not their fault there aren’t enough of them to fill the bench. Giving them grief is pathetic. Whats pathetic is using not been able to fill the bench is lined up as an excuse. Losers/save me attitude, We have a B team and u19s squad. He found out that 3 players werent aviliable on friday, not at the game, to not have a full bench is another example of horrendous management. What's pathetic is you!! You really have no clue what you are on about do you. You're just randomly looking for stuff to complain about. The B Team played on Friday away at Newcastle. We won 1-0 So none of the 16 players who played in that match, such as Ayina, Iorpenda, Falls, Bright, Adewoju, Maroodza, Bakre etc etc could be named on the bench. A number of those 16 players involved in that match are actually U19's as many of the regular B Teamers are in the first team. So of the remaining U19's, they are 16 or 17 year olds that are currently not deemed ready to be involved in B team matches, and you're suggesting they should be on the first team bench, just so that we name 9 subs? ?
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