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Post by andyeastleake on Nov 28, 2023 15:43:43 GMT 1
Have I missed something?
Have we got so many fans now we can afford to tell clearly loyal suporters to "sack it off".
The happy clappers seem to be developing some strange ideas.
PS For clarity, I believe booing at games probably has a negative effect (and I didn't).....
....however I also wonder what loyal fans should do (those who've been here for years before Moore and god willing will be here years after Moore)....
...when someone whose affinity to Huddersfield will probably last less than twelve months adopts tactics that they view as anti football and simply aren't worth travelling any distance to watch?
What can you do?
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Post by townrwe on Nov 28, 2023 15:44:37 GMT 1
Why do you bother still going then? Just sack it off Terry. Not that it's any of your business, but I've followed them up and down the country for years. I'm not about to stop cos someone who registered 45 mins ago is telling me to sack it off. We're also allowed to voice our opinions, it's kind of the reason we have fans forums... Anyone else get the feeling the club/board/management are trying to influence this forum? We know they monitior it as several accounts are linked to board members, There has been a spike in positive posters registering fairly new accounts. It feels like someone is trying to minipulate the opinion on here.... how have positive accounts suddenly appeared since nagle took over and trying to make 8 points from 10 a positive, trying to get a message of injury, active january, moore is staying across by spamming the board. Thats a pretty dirty trick in my eyes, its not a political tool, its a site for debate. If i was a guessing man, id say the club has hired some PR company and the chris gill podcast and DATM influencers are part of that PR process. Only they forgot that someone has a higher IQ than anyone involved at the football club.
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Post by townrwe on Nov 28, 2023 15:50:35 GMT 1
Whats pathetic is using not been able to fill the bench is lined up as an excuse. Losers/save me attitude, We have a B team and u19s squad. He found out that 3 players werent aviliable on friday, not at the game, to not have a full bench is another example of horrendous management. What's pathetic is you!! You really have no clue what you are on about do you. You're just randomly looking for stuff to complain about. The B Team played on Friday away at Newcastle. We won 1-0 So none of the 16 players who played in that match, such as Ayina, Iorpenda, Falls, Bright, Adewoju, Maroodza, Bakre etc etc could be named on the bench. A number of those 16 players involved in that match are actually U19's as many of the regular B Teamers are in the first team. So of the remaining U19's, they are 16 or 17 year olds that are currently not deemed ready to be involved in B team matches, and you're suggesting they should be on the first team bench, just so that we name 9 subs? ? Yes, Thats what im suggesting, or knowing the current situation, we should be taking 23 players on a saturday to plan for all eventualities and 3 can watch from the stands. Ward was sick friday morning, ruffles injured friday morning.... where is the phonecall to schofield telling him not to play certain players. Its either dreadful management or an excuse, In my eyes a combination of both.
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Post by townrwe on Nov 28, 2023 15:55:09 GMT 1
Have I missed something? Have we got so many fans now we can afford to tell clearly loyal suporters to "sack it off". The happy clappers seem to be developing some strange ideas. PS For clarity, I believe booing at games probably has a negative effect (and I didn't)..... ....however I also wonder what loyal fans should do (those who've been here for years before Moore and god willing will be here years after Moore).... ...when someone whose affinity to Huddersfield will probably last less than twelve months a dopts tactics that they view as anti football and simply aren't worth travelling any distance to watch?
What can you do?Sack it off?
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Post by htfcterry on Nov 28, 2023 16:05:35 GMT 1
Not that it's any of your business, but I've followed them up and down the country for years. I'm not about to stop cos someone who registered 45 mins ago is telling me to sack it off. We're also allowed to voice our opinions, it's kind of the reason we have fans forums... Anyone else get the feeling the club/board/management are trying to influence this forum? We know they monitior it as several accounts are linked to board members, There has been a spike in positive posters registering fairly new accounts. It feels like someone is trying to minipulate the opinion on here.... how have positive accounts suddenly appeared since nagle took over and trying to make 8 points from 10 a positive, trying to get a message of injury, active january, moore is staying across by spamming the board. Thats a pretty dirty trick in my eyes, its not a political tool, its a site for debate. If i was a guessing man, id say the club has hired some PR company and the chris gill podcast and DATM influencers are part of that PR process. Only they forgot that someone has a higher IQ than anyone involved at the football club. Probably a bit far fetched to be honest, not entirely sure what they'd get from it. They create their own narrative so don't need to influence people.
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Post by townrwe on Nov 28, 2023 16:11:47 GMT 1
Anyone else get the feeling the club/board/management are trying to influence this forum? We know they monitior it as several accounts are linked to board members, There has been a spike in positive posters registering fairly new accounts. It feels like someone is trying to minipulate the opinion on here.... how have positive accounts suddenly appeared since nagle took over and trying to make 8 points from 10 a positive, trying to get a message of injury, active january, moore is staying across by spamming the board. Thats a pretty dirty trick in my eyes, its not a political tool, its a site for debate. If i was a guessing man, id say the club has hired some PR company and the chris gill podcast and DATM influencers are part of that PR process. Only they forgot that someone has a higher IQ than anyone involved at the football club. Probably a bit far fetched to be honest, not entirely sure what they'd get from it. They create their own narrative so don't need to influence people. They create a narrative in the fan base via social media influencing, PR for the club, Nagle, moore, cartwright part of an overall package. Has Moore recently had media training? There have been a few people on here suggesting he has, Asking the clubs PR company to do their job isnt beyond the realm of possibility, supporter interaction levels on this platform are greater than the others, so if i was doing PR, this is probably where i would start.
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Post by Sparrow on Nov 28, 2023 16:13:41 GMT 1
What's pathetic is you!! You really have no clue what you are on about do you. You're just randomly looking for stuff to complain about. The B Team played on Friday away at Newcastle. We won 1-0 So none of the 16 players who played in that match, such as Ayina, Iorpenda, Falls, Bright, Adewoju, Maroodza, Bakre etc etc could be named on the bench. A number of those 16 players involved in that match are actually U19's as many of the regular B Teamers are in the first team. So of the remaining U19's, they are 16 or 17 year olds that are currently not deemed ready to be involved in B team matches, and you're suggesting they should be on the first team bench, just so that we name 9 subs? ? Yes, Thats what im suggesting, or knowing the current situation, we should be taking 23 players on a saturday to plan for all eventualities and 3 can watch from the stands. Ward was sick friday morning, ruffles injured friday morning.... where is the phonecall to schofield telling him not to play certain players. Its either dreadful management or an excuse, In my eyes a combination of both. So you're suggesting that 5 players that played in the B Team match at Newcastle, should not have done. Instead they should sat and watched that match on Friday and then sat on the bench or in the stand on Saturday. So let's look at the possible 5 players from the B Team. Ayina - Been out with Injury since late August. It was his first match back.....But let's not play him. Let's have him watch the match, then sit on the bench on Saturday. Iorpenda - 18 year old who's developing nicely and looking like a great prospect. Let's not let him play against Newcastle U21's. Instead he can watch that match and then sit on the bench on Saturday, watching that match. Falls - Just made his NI U21s debut at 19, Developing really nicely and looking like a good prospect for the future. Let's not let him play against Newcastle U21's Instead he can watch the match and then watch the match on Saturday as well. Adewoju - 18 years old, left footed CB. Developing nicely. But never even been on a loan to L1 or L2. Let's not let him play against Newcastle U21s and instead have him on the bench or sat in the stand on Saturday. Bright - 20 year old that's not had a loan at L1 or L2. Let's have him on the bench or sat in the stands, rather than play against Newcastle U21s Ondo - Not been seen anywhere near the first team for over 12 months. Let's not have him play against Newcastle U21's. Let's rather have him on the bench or sat in the stands on Saturday So you honest think that having those 5 or any five not play against Newcastle U21's and rather be on the bench or in the stands on Saturday would be classed as good management.....You don't think it would be better for their development (and in Ayina's case return from injury) to actually play against a premier league's U21s? You're either a WUM, just looking for anything to complain about or really have no clue.....Or a bit of all 3
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Post by townrwe on Nov 28, 2023 16:20:13 GMT 1
Yes, Thats what im suggesting, or knowing the current situation, we should be taking 23 players on a saturday to plan for all eventualities and 3 can watch from the stands. Ward was sick friday morning, ruffles injured friday morning.... where is the phonecall to schofield telling him not to play certain players. Its either dreadful management or an excuse, In my eyes a combination of both. So you're suggesting that 5 players that played in the B Team match at Newcastle, should not have done. Instead they should sat and watched that match on Friday and then sat on the bench or in the stand on Saturday. So let's look at the possible 5 players from the B Team. Ayina - Been out with Injury since late August. It was his first match back.....But let's not play him. Let's have him watch the match, then sit on the bench on Saturday. Iorpenda - 18 year old who's developing nicely and looking like a great prospect. Let's not let him play against Newcastle U21's. Instead he can watch that match and then sit on the bench on Saturday, watching that match. Falls - Just made his NI U21s debut at 19, Developing really nicely and looking like a good prospect for the future. Let's not let him play against Newcastle U21's Instead he can watch the match and then watch the match on Saturday as well. Adewoju - 18 years old, left footed CB. Developing nicely. But never even been on a loan to L1 or L2. Let's not let him play against Newcastle U21s and instead have him on the bench or sat in the stand on Saturday. Bright - 20 year old that's not had a loan at L1 or L2. Let's have him on the bench or sat in the stands, rather than play against Newcastle U21s Ondo - Not been seen anywhere near the first team for over 12 months. Let's not have him play against Newcastle U21's. Let's rather have him on the bench or sat in the stands on Saturday So you honest think that having those 5 or any five not play against Newcastle U21's and rather be on the bench or in the stands on Saturday would be classed as good management.....You don't think it would be better for their development (and in Ayina's case return from injury) to actually play against a premier league's U21s? You're either a WUM, just looking for anything to complain about or really have no clue.....Or a bit of all 3 In this sitaution yes, the first team comes first. If it doesnt its either horrendous management or an excuse.
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Nov 28, 2023 16:20:24 GMT 1
Why would someone with a superior IQ be so persistently desperate for attention?
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Post by townrwe on Nov 28, 2023 16:22:53 GMT 1
Why would someone with a superior IQ be so persistently desperate for attention? Some people with superior IQ are boarderline physcopaths..... The same goes for alot of sucessful people, even if they wouldnt admit it, Watch the phycopath life coach on netflix. Its actually a really good watch.
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Post by crux on Nov 28, 2023 16:25:11 GMT 1
Why would someone with a superior IQ be so persistently desperate for attention? Even if it's true, his IQ isn't that superior ......
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Post by dezzly on Nov 28, 2023 16:26:40 GMT 1
Yes, Thats what im suggesting, or knowing the current situation, we should be taking 23 players on a saturday to plan for all eventualities and 3 can watch from the stands. Ward was sick friday morning, ruffles injured friday morning.... where is the phonecall to schofield telling him not to play certain players. Its either dreadful management or an excuse, In my eyes a combination of both. So you're suggesting that 5 players that played in the B Team match at Newcastle, should not have done. Instead they should sat and watched that match on Friday and then sat on the bench or in the stand on Saturday. So let's look at the possible 5 players from the B Team. Ayina - Been out with Injury since late August. It was his first match back.....But let's not play him. Let's have him watch the match, then sit on the bench on Saturday. Iorpenda - 18 year old who's developing nicely and looking like a great prospect. Let's not let him play against Newcastle U21's. Instead he can watch that match and then sit on the bench on Saturday, watching that match. Falls - Just made his NI U21s debut at 19, Developing really nicely and looking like a good prospect for the future. Let's not let him play against Newcastle U21's Instead he can watch the match and then watch the match on Saturday as well. Adewoju - 18 years old, left footed CB. Developing nicely. But never even been on a loan to L1 or L2. Let's not let him play against Newcastle U21s and instead have him on the bench or sat in the stand on Saturday. Bright - 20 year old that's not had a loan at L1 or L2. Let's have him on the bench or sat in the stands, rather than play against Newcastle U21s Ondo - Not been seen anywhere near the first team for over 12 months. Let's not have him play against Newcastle U21's. Let's rather have him on the bench or sat in the stands on Saturday So you honest think that having those 5 or any five not play against Newcastle U21's and rather be on the bench or in the stands on Saturday would be classed as good management.....You don't think it would be better for their development (and in Ayina's case return from injury) to actually play against a premier league's U21s? You're either a WUM, just looking for anything to complain about or really have no clue.....Or a bit of all 3 He’s a complete toilet mate.Like you say just likes complaining or on the windup.Hoping it’s the latter.Everyone can have their opinion I just don’t see the need to make it 500 times a day I’m and amongst going off on random tangents about anything they decide to latch onto.
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Post by uptownfunk on Nov 28, 2023 16:38:31 GMT 1
There wasn’t ‘fans’ running down ailes to scream at players and others verbally abusing other town fans for applauding as has happened several times this season and last. Its gotten beyond a joke nowadays. So many angry people at games- and no way does that ammount of anger come about football. There were groups singing anti town songs and actual hatred for me when I started singing Darren moore’s barmy army. People saying “shut the f**k up” in front of my 10 year old. Embarrassing and disgraceful and would’ve been resolved differently had my boy not been with me. There was though. And while I do actually agree that Town fans fighting amongst themselves HAS increased over the last few years but there's one reason for that. Cocaine. But general hostility towards players, management, board members and so on has always been there and I would argue it's a lot calmer that it used to be years ago. When was the last time you heard anything chanting the manager out? Chanting the chairman/owner out? Abusing a player so much that he needs to be substituted? Are own players tho?? Not to my recollection. Totally agree the language and vociferous ness was there but not at our own team. It used to be partizan against the opposition and Bradford. Even more recently the likes of adnan Ahmed and arron hardy. Some of the absolute dross under Lee Clark even, yes we moaned but we didn’t hate on those players like town ‘fans’ do now with Sorba or did with Schofield - at the ground and on line whcih is obvs a modern thing. I don’t know maybe you’re right but for me then or now I just can’t be doing with it. Win lose or draw watching your team either with mates or family should be a good day. Fans themselves have got to make the atmosphere better - stop all this abuse of our own & each other.
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Post by Porrohman on Nov 28, 2023 16:42:11 GMT 1
Have to say today I saw an organised team with a gameplan with players all fighting. Players injured and not fit within a small squad is not easy for any manager. Witnessed a bloke who should know better wanting to fight town fans after we equalised no hint of a celebration. It was almost like he was disappointed we equalised. Booing the manager, chants against his subs without any knowledge about the injuries or fitness of the players was a disgrace. We will have no chance if this carries on, there will be more fights amongst fans and an atmosphere that will send us down. Today's effort did not deserve any abuse. Well said. I’ve had to stop bringing my lad to Town home matches as he hates the attacks on our own players and the nasty atmosphere. He’s scared it’s going to kick off- and he’s not wrong. Clearly there’s huge issues in society under this government. I know there’s a lot of angry, unhappy people out there. The anger and poison aimed at the players and management is worse than I’ve ever seen it tho and I’ve seen is in all 4 leagues with some shocking players over the years - far far worse than now. We’re in the championship ffs! A lot of fans have got this new owner wrong. He’s committed to building Town. That’s why he’s brought Darren Moore and Simon Ireland in. Their work is done at miller Oils and they’re doing a sound job with the group. It takes time. He’s not even had a transfer window. Defence is miles better. We have 3 quality Centre halves. Our star player is out but he’s back soon- Rudoni. Others coming back like Kasumu. The morale at miller oils yesterday was excellent. They played Saints team off the park second half for long periods. Yet I don’t see their massively high paid players getting abused by Saints fans. Get behind the team. Support the players, the coaches and the club. Constant sniping and negativity from fans is only ever harmful to the club. UTT Blimey, how many PR people does he need. Registered 1 hour ago, 6 posts all either bigging up the management team or having a go at unhappy fans 🤔
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Post by htafcokay on Nov 28, 2023 16:45:01 GMT 1
There was though. And while I do actually agree that Town fans fighting amongst themselves HAS increased over the last few years but there's one reason for that. Cocaine. But general hostility towards players, management, board members and so on has always been there and I would argue it's a lot calmer that it used to be years ago. When was the last time you heard anything chanting the manager out? Chanting the chairman/owner out? Abusing a player so much that he needs to be substituted? Are own players tho?? Not to my recollection. Totally agree the language and vociferous ness was there but not at our own team. It used to be partizan against the opposition and Bradford. Even more recently the likes of adnan Ahmed and arron hardy. Some of the absolute dross under Lee Clark even, yes we moaned but we didn’t hate on those players like town ‘fans’ do now with Sorba or did with Schofield - at the ground and on line whcih is obvs a modern thing. I don’t know maybe you’re right but for me then or now I just can’t be doing with it. Win lose or draw watching your team either with mates or family should be a good day. Fans themselves have got to make the atmosphere better - stop all this abuse of our own & each other. Dave Cowling was regularly abused by his own supporters, Terry Austin also, and they played for us 40-odd years ago. It's always happened and always will happen. And if you think we had some dross under Lee Clark, what do you think to this current squad? The fans will make a better atmosphere when what they're watching improves. We've always had good atmospheres when things are going well, we rarely if ever have good atmospheres when we're rubbish. That's just how it is.
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Post by Captainslapper on Nov 28, 2023 17:06:23 GMT 1
Have to say today I saw an organised team with a gameplan with players all fighting. Players injured and not fit within a small squad is not easy for any manager. Witnessed a bloke who should know better wanting to fight town fans after we equalised no hint of a celebration. It was almost like he was disappointed we equalised. Booing the manager, chants against his subs without any knowledge about the injuries or fitness of the players was a disgrace. We will have no chance if this carries on, there will be more fights amongst fans and an atmosphere that will send us down. Today's effort did not deserve any abuse. The anger and poison aimed at the players and management is worse than I’ve ever seen it tho and I’ve seen is in all 4 leagues with some shocking players over the years - far far worse than now. We’re in the championship ffs! The legacy of our brief foray into the big time maybe? Everything is suddenly so unacceptable now when in reality we're actually in the longest spell outside of the bottom 2 divisions this clubs enjoyed in half a century. Theres a lot of fans who will have been going decades yet sound like they started supporting the club in 2016/17.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Nov 28, 2023 17:25:27 GMT 1
The anger and poison aimed at the players and management is worse than I’ve ever seen it tho and I’ve seen is in all 4 leagues with some shocking players over the years - far far worse than now. We’re in the championship ffs! The legacy of our brief foray into the big time maybe? Everything is suddenly so unacceptable now when in reality we're actually in the longest spell outside of the bottom 2 divisions this clubs enjoyed in half a century. Theres a lot of fans who will have been going decades yet sound like they started supporting the club in 2016/17. The thing is, it might have been worse at a lower level in the 70's, under Ian Ross, under MacDonald but the status of the club and the game has improved considerably since those days. I think and rightly so, people expect better from a club which is one down from the PL and with stated ambitions to get back there. I don't think it's unreasonable for the club to be competitive and professional at this level, both those leave a lot to be desired currently. Crowds are better than they have ever been in the 'bad old days' and people expectations are higher. When we were shite before we had no brass, a team full of free transfers, a crumbling ground and crap crowds, things have moved on since those days and rightly so. You state that we are experiencing our longest spell outside the bottom divisions but let's face it a lot of that has been absolute dirge, especially since the PL relegation when the club should have been better placed to change the decades old status quo of the club. We've posted probably 2 top 10 finishes in The Championship since our return in 2012/13 and 2 PL seasons one of which we finished bottom, that's nowt to be proud off, finishing bottom of the league. I hope new regime, after a rocky start, can turn this round by providing a better club all round.
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Post by uptownfunk on Nov 28, 2023 17:36:13 GMT 1
Why do you presume to know better than Darren Moore. What are your football management credentials? Have you won any silverware or promotions? Did you enjoy any aspect of the 75% of those matches I refer to? ...although I'd wager you were nowhere near Hull on 11th November with your four posts. PS I don't have any football management credentials but I've seen sides led by managers who would never adopt those f*****g tactics PPS ...& the tactics that WERE successful for DM weren't those adopted for 75% of that time. I wasn’t at Hull. I was however at Derby scum bag county under the lovely bloke that is Mark Lillis where we were utterly humiliated and 3-0 down after 20 minutes. Town had long given up and their fans were pissing themselves. I bet you if I had the time I could name 20 matches worse than Hull. Darren Moore is suggering the cumulative effect of several years of managerial ineptitude (including Wagner) Football is a simple game & you may well know your tactics but I don’t think you’re fully recognising the context he’s working in. He had a hugely depleted squad he went for a 0-0. Unlucky not to get the point late on. These recent matches do not define him as a manager. This is a guy who’s team scored 4 second half goals to win a game. He had a good game plan Saturday. Nullify first half, attack then second half as they tite and are frustrated and that’s exactly what happened. The goal was coming for Town no question… far higher wage bill ex prem squad.. made to look ordinary without several key players- Ward, Rudoni, Nicholls et al… Darren Moore deserves to be given time. He is popular and respected by all the players and it’s a very happy camp. I can speak from experience as I was with the players yesterday through HTFC foundation. I have no doubt with Simon Ireland as coach and the other guys that Town will be strong under Moore, given time and a good window or too. The board are 100% behind him and the processes.
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Post by uptownfunk on Nov 28, 2023 17:37:25 GMT 1
Well said. I’ve had to stop bringing my lad to Town home matches as he hates the attacks on our own players and the nasty atmosphere. He’s scared it’s going to kick off- and he’s not wrong. Clearly there’s huge issues in society under this government. I know there’s a lot of angry, unhappy people out there. The anger and poison aimed at the players and management is worse than I’ve ever seen it tho and I’ve seen is in all 4 leagues with some shocking players over the years - far far worse than now. We’re in the championship ffs! A lot of fans have got this new owner wrong. He’s committed to building Town. That’s why he’s brought Darren Moore and Simon Ireland in. Their work is done at miller Oils and they’re doing a sound job with the group. It takes time. He’s not even had a transfer window. Defence is miles better. We have 3 quality Centre halves. Our star player is out but he’s back soon- Rudoni. Others coming back like Kasumu. The morale at miller oils yesterday was excellent. They played Saints team off the park second half for long periods. Yet I don’t see their massively high paid players getting abused by Saints fans. Get behind the team. Support the players, the coaches and the club. Constant sniping and negativity from fans is only ever harmful to the club. UTT Blimey, how many PR people does he need. Registered 1 hour ago, 6 posts all either bigging up the management team or having a go at unhappy fans 🤔 Nah I’ve just got increasingly fed up at games and am now venting my spleen on here like everyone else does.
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Post by uptownfunk on Nov 28, 2023 17:39:39 GMT 1
The anger and poison aimed at the players and management is worse than I’ve ever seen it tho and I’ve seen is in all 4 leagues with some shocking players over the years - far far worse than now. We’re in the championship ffs! The legacy of our brief foray into the big time maybe? Everything is suddenly so unacceptable now when in reality we're actually in the longest spell outside of the bottom 2 divisions this clubs enjoyed in half a century. Theres a lot of fans who will have been going decades yet sound like they started supporting the club in 2016/17. I would say without doubt that is a factor. It has been insipid of late, the years of crap management and then Warnocks magic then sudden departure. I get all that but I’d like to see the good old town siege mentality make a comeback.
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Post by workshyfop on Nov 28, 2023 17:44:55 GMT 1
Why would someone with a superior IQ be so persistently desperate for attention? Some people with superior IQ are boarderline physcopaths..... The same goes for alot of sucessful people, even if they wouldnt admit it, Watch the phycopath life coach on netflix. Its actually a really good watch. People with a superior IQ could probably spell “borderline”.
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Post by htafcokay on Nov 28, 2023 17:46:39 GMT 1
The legacy of our brief foray into the big time maybe? Everything is suddenly so unacceptable now when in reality we're actually in the longest spell outside of the bottom 2 divisions this clubs enjoyed in half a century. Theres a lot of fans who will have been going decades yet sound like they started supporting the club in 2016/17. I would say without doubt that is a factor. It has been insipid of late, the years of crap management and then Warnocks magic then sudden departure. I get all that but I’d like to see the good old town siege mentality make a comeback. What siege mentality is this?
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Post by Captainslapper on Nov 28, 2023 17:46:45 GMT 1
The legacy of our brief foray into the big time maybe? Everything is suddenly so unacceptable now when in reality we're actually in the longest spell outside of the bottom 2 divisions this clubs enjoyed in half a century. Theres a lot of fans who will have been going decades yet sound like they started supporting the club in 2016/17. The thing is, it might have been worse at a lower level in the 70's, under Ian Ross, under MacDonald but the status of the club and the game has improved considerably since those days. I think and rightly so, people expect better from a club which is one down from the PL and with stated ambitions to get back there. I don't think it's unreasonable for the club to be competitive and professional at this level, both those leave a lot to be desired currently. Crowds are better than they have ever been in the 'bad old days' and people expectations are higher. When we were shite before we had no brass, a team full of free transfers, a crumbling ground and crap crowds, things have moved on since those days and rightly so. You state that we are experiencing our longest spell outside the bottom divisions but let's face it a lot of that has been absolute dirge, especially since the PL relegation when the club should have been better placed to change the decades old status quo of the club. We've posted probably 2 top 10 finishes in The Championship since our return in 2012/13 and 2 PL seasons one of which we finished bottom, that's nowt to be proud off, finishing bottom of the league. I hope new regime, after a rocky start, can turn this round by providing a better club all round. Our income will be one of the lowest in this division so theres no obvious reason why HTFC should be doing better than we are that I can see. No one looks at Rotherham ( another of the clubs with the lowest income at this level ) and thinks.."Rotherham,,now they should be competing at the top end of the Championship",,but yet Huddersfield should be? Why? It can be done if you make a lot of good decisions and things line up to overcome that financial disadvantage ....weve proved that ourselves twice....but thats different from thinking its somehow unacceptable if it doesnt!
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Nov 28, 2023 17:53:51 GMT 1
The thing is, it might have been worse at a lower level in the 70's, under Ian Ross, under MacDonald but the status of the club and the game has improved considerably since those days. I think and rightly so, people expect better from a club which is one down from the PL and with stated ambitions to get back there. I don't think it's unreasonable for the club to be competitive and professional at this level, both those leave a lot to be desired currently. Crowds are better than they have ever been in the 'bad old days' and people expectations are higher. When we were shite before we had no brass, a team full of free transfers, a crumbling ground and crap crowds, things have moved on since those days and rightly so. You state that we are experiencing our longest spell outside the bottom divisions but let's face it a lot of that has been absolute dirge, especially since the PL relegation when the club should have been better placed to change the decades old status quo of the club. We've posted probably 2 top 10 finishes in The Championship since our return in 2012/13 and 2 PL seasons one of which we finished bottom, that's nowt to be proud off, finishing bottom of the league. I hope new regime, after a rocky start, can turn this round by providing a better club all round. Our income will be one of the lowest in this division so theres no obvious reason why HTFC should be doing better than we are that I can see. No one looks at Rotherham ( another of the clubs with the lowest income at this level ) and thinks.."Rotherham,,now they should be competing at the top end of the Championship",,but yet Huddersfield should be? Why? It can be done if you make a lot of good decisions and things line up to overcome that financial disadvantage ....weve proved that ourselves twice....but thats different from thinking its somehow unacceptable if it doesnt! Good decision making and Town are never heard in the same sentence.
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Post by 2ellandback on Nov 28, 2023 17:57:18 GMT 1
Why do you bother still going then? Just sack it off Terry. Not that it's any of your business, but I've followed them up and down the country for years. I'm not about to stop cos someone who registered 45 mins ago is telling me to sack it off. We're also allowed to voice our opinions, it's kind of the reason we have fans forums... Looks like the Lickspittle WhatsApp group has recruited another member. Either that or check his IP address. They have clearly been told to be much more assertive. Maybe that works in the US. It just gets people’s backs up over here.
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Nov 28, 2023 18:02:12 GMT 1
Some people with superior IQ are boarderline physcopaths..... The same goes for alot of sucessful people, even if they wouldnt admit it, Watch the phycopath life coach on netflix. Its actually a really good watch. People with a superior IQ could probably spell “borderline”. and psychopath...though he did try twice
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Nov 28, 2023 18:12:32 GMT 1
People with a superior IQ could probably spell “borderline”. and psychopath...though he did try twice On his first post about his IQ townrwe intended to use the word “guessed” but actually used “guest” instead!
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Post by andyeastleake on Nov 28, 2023 18:20:07 GMT 1
Did you enjoy any aspect of the 75% of those matches I refer to? ...although I'd wager you were nowhere near Hull on 11th November with your four posts. PS I don't have any football management credentials but I've seen sides led by managers who would never adopt those f*****g tactics PPS ...& the tactics that WERE successful for DM weren't those adopted for 75% of that time. I wasn’t at Hull. I was however at Derby scum bag county under the lovely bloke that is Mark Lillis where we were utterly humiliated and 3-0 down after 20 minutes. Town had long given up and their fans were pissing themselves. I bet you if I had the time I could name 20 matches worse than Hull. TBH I'm surprised you pick as an example of a worse game than Hull, Derby away under Lillis. There are many reasons for that, not least that if you were going to pick a bad game in the East Midlands that season I would've thought you'd pick the 6-1 at Leicester or the 6-1 at Forest (the three games happened in a fifty day period - both worse and really great for two Town season ticket holders residing in the East Midlands triangle). Further we weren't 3-0 down after 20 minutes (the first goal was scored in the 24th minute - checked my memory to two different sources). Whilst I think you could easily pick 20 games that were worse than Hull in terms of scoreline (I've given you two there), if you'd been there, trust me, I doubt you'd be able to list 20 matches where our set up and tactics were more anti football, abject and simply as embaressing as Hull was (Derby wasn't great but nothing like Hull) I was there and trust me I never want to waste my time and money travelling to watch anything like that again. PS If you refer to "Derby Scumbag County", I dread think how you describe the club from West Bridgford.
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Post by royrace on Nov 28, 2023 18:37:05 GMT 1
He isn't! Although for some unfathomable reason plenty on here seem to have decided he is! I did go onto say that they obviously are close to someone involved with the club... Read the rest 😊 I did read it all! My point was he's nowt to do with the club or anyone associated with it but pretending that he is without actually saying as much, if that makes any sense That's my theory anyhow. Seems to be plenty on here who think he's some sort of spokesman for the club and responding to him like they are talking to the exec team
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Post by royrace on Nov 28, 2023 18:44:53 GMT 1
I didn't hear any vitriol where I am in the kilner. I complain a lot about the club but when I'm at the match I support them, if people do wanna boo though that's their right. I find it surprising anyone is surprised they are getting abuse and being booed!
It's football not the theatre and it's been a complete shit show. If you don't like it I'd suggest getting a different hobby and if anyone's child is upset by a bit of booing I'd suggest leaving it till they're a bit older or switching stands maybe.
It'd be a lot worse at some clubs I reckon.
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