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Post by tockyterrier on Jan 1, 2024 21:13:50 GMT 1
This myth that Warnock plays "kick it long and chase down" . Opposed to what? Moore's "kick it long and don't chase down and have 20% possession" style? They played well against Blackburn and very well against Mbro, but come on don't kid yourself. Even if it was pragmatic at times - the football was significantly better under Warnock's reign than it has been under Moore's so far. Moore's tenure overall been bloody awful in terms of results and football. He's fortunate to still have his job. Warnock did ride his luck at times though during 1st halves. Our 1st half performances weren't that great. Warnock though, had a knack of a great HT team talk and we scored a lot of goal from 45-60 mins. He then also knew, tactically, how to see a game out. Warnock did exceptionally well for us, but there were plenty of crap games under him too, but most of us knew it was a means to and end (& some were calling for him to be got rid off). I also remember BORO Fans telling us not to keep warnock on, saying he'd get found out and performances would tail off. And some of the performances this season were not great and that was with a full squad. We can't even fill the bench atvthe moment and playing twice a week. |
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Post by tockyterrier on Jan 1, 2024 21:17:58 GMT 1
4 wins in 19 is astounding Didn’t expect anything from today but it’s another 4 goal defeat I do wonder how bad it has to get to be sacked. If the new regime don’t look stupid enough for sacking warnock and their pick winning 4 in 19; they’ll look even more incompetent if they back him in Jan and we continue this vein of form and they have to chop him before the season ends Look at the squad of players he had available and look at Leicesters other results this season. Hardly the a result to make that decision on. In fact It's a neigh on a miracle we only lost by 3. |
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Post by tockyterrier on Jan 1, 2024 21:24:05 GMT 1
Was it that bad? 3 in 19? They said 2 in 15 for Rooney on Sky after today’s game, their records are equally as bad. Nobody would be that surprised if they were both relieved of their duties this week but all the signs are that Moore will be given til late January/mid-February. We have been better the last 3 games and nobody expected anything from today’s game. the difference is that Rooney took over when they were 5th !! And they've got worse. Our form has barely changed, although out squad has shrunk. We were Roughly a 1pt a game under Warnocks first 8 games and we were until today we were 25 from 25. |
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Post by thomo on Jan 1, 2024 21:36:07 GMT 1
Wowsers our position is so perilous right now. Teams behind us looking to be hitting some form. Teams in front of us picking up points. The injury list growing. I really fear for us. It could have been avoided with a modicum of ambition in the summer. There's no doubt about it the next 5 months will make or break Nagle's reign. He won't survive relegation.
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Post by runner76 on Jan 1, 2024 23:32:02 GMT 1
Wowsers our position is so perilous right now. Teams behind us looking to be hitting some form. Teams in front of us picking up points. The injury list growing. I really fear for us. It could have been avoided with a modicum of ambition in the summer. There's no doubt about it the next 5 months will make or break Nagle's reign. He won't survive relegation. Although for some lost to injury there will be some coming back….and the January window where I’d imagine 4-6 incoming. Not looking great but seen enough over last few games to feel glimmer of positivity. Like the Leicester commentator said today, they’ve seen worse Championship sides than town there this year…. |
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Post by irverino on Jan 1, 2024 23:51:20 GMT 1
Latest odds on skybet for relegation; Rotherham 1/33, Town 8/13, SW 1/1, QPR 6/5, Brum 3/1 & PA 4/1, then its 16/1 & above.....Clear 2nd favourites now from six teams bookies confident 3 of whom will drop.
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Post by softboy on Jan 1, 2024 23:57:16 GMT 1
So we are twice as likely than QPR to go down, is that correct?
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Post by ChelmsfordTerrier on Jan 2, 2024 0:16:17 GMT 1
I am finding it more and more difficult to have a firm opinion on Moore. A couple of weeks back it was a certain no and sack him. However in recent weeks and including today for a period ,things appear to have a changed a bit. The players do appear to want to try for him and performances have in general improved.
Quite a conundrum.
His record is pretty terrible so far but performances have offered a glimmer of hope. So is he the right guy to spend whatever budget we have in January? I’l hold my hands up and say I have no idea now at this point.
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Jan 2, 2024 0:22:25 GMT 1
Just a mess at the minute. We don’t have a squad good enough to work out if the manager has a clue. His record with us is appalling.
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Post by shawsie on Jan 2, 2024 0:26:00 GMT 1
I am finding it more and more difficult to have a firm opinion on Moore. A couple of weeks back it was a certain no and sack him. However in recent weeks and including today for a period ,things appear to have a changed a bit. The players do appear to want to try for him and performances have in general improved. Quite a conundrum. His record is pretty terrible so far but performances have offered a glimmer of hope. So is he the right guy to spend whatever budget we have in January? I’l hold my hands up and say I have no idea now at this point. Its a real dilemma right now. Personally im not a fan but i do understand others who say its unfair to judge him until he has put his transfer stamp on the squad. It probably isnt fair to have REG, Austerfield, Hudlin et al as mainstays in your matchday squad ....... but i wouldnt be trusting him hugely this month and 3 or 4 quick defeats and we will need another warnock miracle. KN has some tough decisions to make. |
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Post by irverino on Jan 2, 2024 0:33:45 GMT 1
Plymouth Argyle to appoint the new manager before the end of this week from one of a hundred or so applicants......Which surely rules out Warnock who they would have just asked, so who is it?
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Post by ChelmsfordTerrier on Jan 2, 2024 0:34:55 GMT 1
I am finding it more and more difficult to have a firm opinion on Moore. A couple of weeks back it was a certain no and sack him. However in recent weeks and including today for a period ,things appear to have a changed a bit. The players do appear to want to try for him and performances have in general improved. Quite a conundrum. His record is pretty terrible so far but performances have offered a glimmer of hope. So is he the right guy to spend whatever budget we have in January? I’l hold my hands up and say I have no idea now at this point. Its a real dilemma right now. Personally im not a fan but i do understand others who say its unfair to judge him until he has put his transfer stamp on the squad. It probably isnt fair to have REG, Austerfield, Hudlin et al as mainstays in your matchday squad ....... but i wouldnt be trusting him hugely this month and 3 or 4 quick defeats and we will need another warnock miracle. KN has some tough decisions to make. I would say I am still on the side of he needs to go, however I have moved closer to the fence. As you say,a return to what has been the norm for the most part and a run of bad results, we are done for. I can in recent weeks to a lesser extent ,see a small chance of him turning it around. A month ago I would have said no chance! GladI I’m not the decision maker! |
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Post by Captainslapper on Jan 2, 2024 1:34:43 GMT 1
Think weve improved quite a bit since the Elland road farce.
Perhaps not reflected in the points gained but certainly in the performances in most games and the players are giving everything for Moore.
Our squad didnt have enough depth to it and were down to the bare bones now with a bench entirely made up of kids.
that makes it difficult but I think weve been moving in the right direction over recent weeks.
Need 4 or 5 additions this window.
Theres not a lot of difference between any of the sides in the bottom 7 or 8. A marginal improvement will see us safe comfortably IMO.
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Post by royrace on Jan 2, 2024 1:35:17 GMT 1
Its a real dilemma right now. Personally im not a fan but i do understand others who say its unfair to judge him until he has put his transfer stamp on the squad. It probably isnt fair to have REG, Austerfield, Hudlin et al as mainstays in your matchday squad ....... but i wouldnt be trusting him hugely this month and 3 or 4 quick defeats and we will need another warnock miracle. KN has some tough decisions to make. I would say I am still on the side of he needs to go, however I have moved closer to the fence. As you say,a return to what has been the norm for the most part and a run of bad results, we a done for. I can in recent weeks to a lesser extent ,see a small chance of him turning it around. A month ago I would have said no chance! GladI I’m not the decision maker! I worry what's playing out is the worst possible scenario, performances have improved but still not many points. There are also injuries to hide behind so we persevere, add to the squad, continue to struggle and eventually get relegated to L1. The bookies have us as second favourites now and I can see exactly why. |
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Post by willo on Jan 2, 2024 2:21:03 GMT 1
Plymouth Argyle to appoint the new manager before the end of this week from one of a hundred or so applicants......Which surely rules out Warnock who they would have just asked, so who is it? Mark Fotheringham 🙏 |
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Post by thomo on Jan 2, 2024 10:59:10 GMT 1
I would say I am still on the side of he needs to go, however I have moved closer to the fence. As you say,a return to what has been the norm for the most part and a run of bad results, we a done for. I can in recent weeks to a lesser extent ,see a small chance of him turning it around. A month ago I would have said no chance! GladI I’m not the decision maker! I worry what's playing out is the worst possible scenario, performances have improved but still not many points. There are also injuries to hide behind so we persevere, add to the squad, continue to struggle and eventually get relegated to L1. The bookies have us as second favourites now and I can see exactly why. That is the worry. He was a goner for me if we'd have lost to Blackburn. But two battling performances and he earned a stay of execution. Worry now he'll take us into the next 3 or 4 vital league games, not get the points, get the boot at start of Feb and leave us needing a new manager with no transfer window to allow him to sign his own players. That would be a pretty grim scenario. But typical town. Conversely we could sign a glut of players, the battling performances start to yield points, win our next four (very winnable games) and Moore has us mid table by mid Feb. Let's hope it plays out like this. |
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Post by nicovaesen on Jan 2, 2024 11:05:43 GMT 1
Plymouth Argyle to appoint the new manager before the end of this week from one of a hundred or so applicants......Which surely rules out Warnock who they would have just asked, so who is it? Mark Fotheringham 🙏 Listen I’m no here to make friends and the players will know this listen yeah…… |
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Post by irverino on Jan 2, 2024 11:14:25 GMT 1
Plymouth Argyle to appoint the new manager before the end of this week from one of a hundred or so applicants......Which surely rules out Warnock who they would have just asked, so who is it? Mark Fotheringham 🙏 That would be some head to head, a bit like opposite of Clough/Revie or Fergie/Wenger, joking apart does DM survive with a home point versus the Pilgrims or will only a win do (in front of watching KN).....Given the 'new bounce manager' he's up against now. |
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Post by jqhtfc on Jan 2, 2024 11:21:17 GMT 1
Rooney sacked from brum
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2024 12:20:23 GMT 1
From the BBC website: “Since Blues' new American owners Shelby Companies Limited appointed Rooney, again in the search for global impact, he has also won just two matches - and the board's hope for successful, more exciting football has not been met.” Well at least DM wasn’t appointed in an effort to achieve ‘global impact’. There is always a club making worse decisions than yours. |
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Post by runner76 on Jan 2, 2024 12:23:10 GMT 1
From the BBC website: “Since Blues' new American owners Shelby Companies Limited appointed Rooney, again in the search for global impact, he has also won just two matches - and the board's hope for successful, more exciting football has not been met.” Well at least DM wasn’t appointed in an effort to achieve ‘global impact’. There is always a club making worse decisions than yours. Just noticed this 'Shelby' company?!?! is that some homage to Peaky Blinders?! |
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Post by delroy on Jan 2, 2024 13:00:07 GMT 1
Wowsers our position is so perilous right now. Teams behind us looking to be hitting some form. Teams in front of us picking up points. The injury list growing. I really fear for us. It could have been avoided with a modicum of ambition in the summer. There's no doubt about it the next 5 months will make or break Nagle's reign. He won't survive relegation. Kevin isn't going anywhere. |
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Post by softboy on Jan 2, 2024 13:03:18 GMT 1
With Rooney now available come on KN get him in now!
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jan 2, 2024 13:27:33 GMT 1
With Rooney now available come on KN get him in now! That sounds like a very Huddersfield town thing to do. Get rid of the manager with the second worst win percentage in the division and replace him with the worst win percentage. |
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Post by goodbet on Jan 2, 2024 13:46:33 GMT 1
From the BBC website: “Since Blues' new American owners Shelby Companies Limited appointed Rooney, again in the search for global impact, he has also won just two matches - and the board's hope for successful, more exciting football has not been met.” Well at least DM wasn’t appointed in an effort to achieve ‘global impact’. There is always a club making worse decisions than yours. One thing to make poor decisions, but then realise it and do something about it. That seems to be a better scenario that we are in, where we made a slightly better (but poor) decision and then the management appear to have put their heads in the sand and and can't find the guts to do something about it. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jan 2, 2024 13:47:24 GMT 1
With Rooney now available come on KN get him in now! That sounds like a very Huddersfield town thing to do. Get rid of the manager with the second worst win percentage in the division and replace him with the worst win percentage. Sounds much more tongue in cheek🙄🙄 |
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Post by yoda2169 on Jan 2, 2024 13:49:17 GMT 1
only way to get behind moore is with your hands pushing him out of door and waveing him goodbye to good riddens
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Post by mosher on Jan 2, 2024 14:09:19 GMT 1
only way to get behind moore is with your hands pushing him out of door and waveing him goodbye to good riddens The only way to get behind Moore is with your hands, pushing him out of the door, waving him goodbye and good riddance. (c) Google Translate |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2024 15:17:54 GMT 1
From the BBC website: “Since Blues' new American owners Shelby Companies Limited appointed Rooney, again in the search for global impact, he has also won just two matches - and the board's hope for successful, more exciting football has not been met.” Well at least DM wasn’t appointed in an effort to achieve ‘global impact’. There is always a club making worse decisions than yours. One thing to make poor decisions, but then realise it and do something about it. That seems to be a better scenario that we are in, where we made a slightly better (but poor) decision and then the management appear to have put their heads in the sand and and can't find the guts to do something about it. As has been said, many times, DM needs the chance to improve the squad before he is cast out for not getting results with the threadbare squad currently available. I think KN realises this too and will, correctly IMHO, give DM time to improve performances in the new year. |
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Post by frankyb on Jan 2, 2024 15:26:07 GMT 1
One thing to make poor decisions, but then realise it and do something about it. That seems to be a better scenario that we are in, where we made a slightly better (but poor) decision and then the management appear to have put their heads in the sand and and can't find the guts to do something about it. As has been said, many times, DM needs the chance to improve the squad before he is cast out for not getting results with the threadbare squad currently available. I think KN realises this too and will, correctly IMHO, give DM time to improve performances in the new year. Are new faces going to improve his connection with the Fans? Because without that, hes already sacked, its just when it happens. |
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