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Post by willo on Jan 2, 2024 15:29:24 GMT 1
One thing to make poor decisions, but then realise it and do something about it. That seems to be a better scenario that we are in, where we made a slightly better (but poor) decision and then the management appear to have put their heads in the sand and and can't find the guts to do something about it. As has been said, many times, DM needs the chance to improve the squad before he is cast out for not getting results with the threadbare squad currently available. I think KN realises this too and will, correctly IMHO, give DM time to improve performances in the new year. Despite others saying otherwise, lose v Blackburn and I’m convinced he’s a goner but credit where it’s due, we have played well the last 3 games and he’ll almost certainly be given the next 4 vital league games. It’s a gamble because if we only pick up a nominal amount of points and we then decide to cut loose, we’re left needing another near miracle. There are better options out there as it stands but for how much longer? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2024 15:40:31 GMT 1
As has been said, many times, DM needs the chance to improve the squad before he is cast out for not getting results with the threadbare squad currently available. I think KN realises this too and will, correctly IMHO, give DM time to improve performances in the new year. Are new faces going to improve his connection with the Fans? Because without that, hes already sacked, its just when it happens. The only problem for the fans is the sytle of play and the results. He has tried to change that the last 3 games, one we won, one we should have got something from, and one we were outclassed, but the effort and trying to get forward were there in all three. He is not jolly Mr Wagner or raconteur Warnock or 'one of our own' Peter Jackson. He is just a guy trying to do a difficult job as well as he can with very limited tools. If being amusing and good at public speaking was a prerequisite of the job there would be lots of unemployed managers. Carlos was unintelligable most of the time but nobody was upset with him when we were in the playoff positions. |
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Post by htafcokay on Jan 2, 2024 15:43:00 GMT 1
Remember when some of us were moaning about Corberan's style of play and the feeling was "he's getting results, it's all about results".
In just two years it's completely flipped and now it's, "we're playing well but not picking up the results".
A manager should be judged on results. Moore isn't getting them. So get rid.
We lost 4-1 but fans are seemingly happy because "we put some effort in". How low is the bar now?
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Post by royrace on Jan 2, 2024 15:51:56 GMT 1
Remember when some of us were moaning about Corberan's style of play and the feeling was "he's getting results, it's all about results". In just two years it's completely flipped and now it's, "we're playing well but not picking up the results". A manager should be judged on results. Moore isn't getting them. So get rid. We lost 4-1 but fans are seemingly happy because "we put some effort in". How low is the bar now? A good point regarding lowering the bar, I think it's been that bad at stages that we now get over excited just because we almost had 40 per cent possession and strung a few passes together. Most teams relegated from this division can look decent at times. It's that consistent inability to get points on the board that gets you relegated. There's still nowhere near enough evidence to suggest he has what it takes and loads to suggest he doesn't. We need to overachieve to stay in the division, I don't see this manager getting them to overachieve. |
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Post by andyeastleake on Jan 2, 2024 16:03:17 GMT 1
but credit where it’s due, we have played well the last 3 games TBF, given we were 3-0 down before we had a shot on target (at which point the shotcount was 9-2) I think you're using "well" in the loosest sense of the word regarding yesterday. For the second time when I've seen them in the flesh this season, I didn't think that much of Leicester at all (which makes it harder to take that they beat us so easily without it seems really trying). Of course we played better from 3-0 down, but unfortunately that is becoming too regular an occurence. That is my biggest concern about DM, we seem to look a much better team when he (or perhaps more likely the players) release the shackles. Why not play more positively from the start? |
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Post by rockwall on Jan 2, 2024 16:35:55 GMT 1
Bottom line is we are 21st.
20 teams are playing better than us.
In all honestly we have been absolute abysmal. As others have said, the bar by a lot has been set really low.
If I wanted to applaud a lot of running around, I would go watch a marathon.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jan 2, 2024 16:46:11 GMT 1
Remember when some of us were moaning about Corberan's style of play and the feeling was "he's getting results, it's all about results". In just two years it's completely flipped and now it's, "we're playing well but not picking up the results". A manager should be judged on results. Moore isn't getting them. So get rid. We lost 4-1 but fans are seemingly happy because "we put some effort in". How low is the bar now? We did put the effort in, we sat off and chased and cleared and waited for it to come back. At least 4 Leicester players didnt break sweat in the first half. Good players given half a game off does not help us. We scored a goal at a set piece(we had so few) and should have scored another shortly after from a 3/4 man move which easily cut through their defence. Unfortunately at 3 down its a little late to see how much better we look in their half than ours. Try to win the game before its already as good as lost?? We have players who look so much more committed and useful playing up the pitch rather than asking them to be almost full time extra defenders. They look more interested when we are trying to get forward as much as is possible. We have defenders who look more comfortable when they see their man and can mark him without other blue and white shirts standing about watching and in truth just confusing the rest. Of course there are times you have to defend the box and in it, simply cutting down the time and often the length of time we are all back in it might help.? Im behind Moore in as much as i desperately want him to prove a success and prove many of us badly wrong. I am not booing or complaining loudly at the games but we did sing our arses off for half and hour at Leeds and then looked like cards once the game started, much like brum and cardiff. Didnt go yesterday dont know what those that did feel about waiting for 60 odd minutes to have an attempt on target and be 3 0 down already?? |
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 2, 2024 20:01:19 GMT 1
only way to get behind moore is with your hands pushing him out of door and waveing him goodbye to good riddens The only way to get behind Moore is with your hands, pushing him out of the door, waving him goodbye and good riddance. (c) Google Translate Either will do for me, as long as he buggers off |
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Post by willo on Jan 2, 2024 23:34:55 GMT 1
but credit where it’s due, we have played well the last 3 games TBF, given we were 3-0 down before we had a shot on target (at which point the shotcount was 9-2) I think you're using "well" in the loosest sense of the word regarding yesterday. For the second time when I've seen them in the flesh this season, I didn't think that much of Leicester at all (which makes it harder to take that they beat us so easily without it seems really trying). Of course we played better from 3-0 down, but unfortunately that is becoming too regular an occurence. That is my biggest concern about DM, we seem to look a much better team when he (or perhaps more likely the players) release the shackles. Why not play more positively from the start? You are correct Andy. The last 3 games have somewhat skewed what came before and I’m very much in the camp of he’s had sufficient time, it’s not really working and in all honesty hasn’t worked from the start. Unusually too there are some very good candidates out there currently but if the board weren’t for making a change before Boxing Day, I doubt they’ll be having a change of mind just yet unless they’ve seen what’s gone on at Birmingham City today and decide to follow suit. |
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Post by Big Ern on Jan 6, 2024 1:19:58 GMT 1
Despite the 2 really positive signings today something still really bugs me about DM. Why on earth, in every press conference, does he not have a clue about player injuries? Mate speak to your medical staff before addressing the supporters, not after.
Given Delano's injury occurred boxing day why will it be Monday before he finds out more? Warnock would have the medical staffs balls in a vice if he didn't know the extent of his players injuries.
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Jan 6, 2024 1:25:25 GMT 1
Despite the 2 really positive signings today something still really bugs me about DM. Why on earth, in every press conference, does he not have a clue about player injuries? Mate speak to your medical staff before addressing the supporters, not after. Given Delano's injury occurred boxing day why will it be Monday before he finds out more? Warnock would have the medical staffs balls in a vice if he didn't know the extent of his players injuries. He knows what's going on with injuries. Problem is he tries to be evasive as to not give outsiders and information which is frustrating but understandable. Where he falls down is he fails to fill the gaps with insightful information. As a result we all come away with a 30 minute presser that told us nothing about anything. |
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Post by morleyterrier on Jan 7, 2024 19:44:29 GMT 1
Get him the fuck out.
We have some great Players. A new (and proper) Manager will get a tune out of them.
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Post by King Neil on Jan 7, 2024 19:50:02 GMT 1
Time to go weeks ago  football from him |
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Post by htafcokay on Jan 7, 2024 21:26:32 GMT 1
3 wins in 20.
Worse record than Fotheringham!
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Post by ACW on Jan 7, 2024 21:30:21 GMT 1
Get him the fuck out. We have some great Players. A new (and proper) Manager will get a tune out of them. Is this sarcastic? We have some good players, but we don't have any great players. And we have plenty of mediocre/not ready/shite ones. |
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