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Post by runner76 on Dec 5, 2023 15:26:26 GMT 1
Couldn’t see a thread. And I love a poll!…
2-2 this one.
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Post by sabailand on Dec 5, 2023 15:36:32 GMT 1
Town win dont know how and by how many but who cares.
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Post by runner76 on Dec 5, 2023 15:59:01 GMT 1
Town win dont know how and by how many but who cares. I’ll take 1-0  |
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Post by mosher on Dec 5, 2023 16:04:46 GMT 1
Gone for 2-1 in prediction league
Edit: realised I didn't say win or lose, WIN just to be clear
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Post by dezzly on Dec 5, 2023 17:22:51 GMT 1
Got no idea how I think this one will go 😂
Will Moore decide to stick with the full invite them on counter attacking football that gained 5 points this last week or with been at home does he have to edge more towards an actual 3-4-3 from mainly 5-4-1.Bristol have also just changed manager so will they let us have the ball or try boss the possession.Going for a 0-0 but could easily see a 2-1 either way also.same team as Sunderland
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Dec 5, 2023 17:37:21 GMT 1
Advance warning, I’m attending, so don’t expect any goals from Town!
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Post by Essex Terrier on Dec 5, 2023 17:40:30 GMT 1
Result for Town, perhaps a point.
1-1
Love a win!
...but then, wouldn't we all.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Dec 5, 2023 18:13:10 GMT 1
2 consecutive home games, Bristol are no mugs followed by Preston who seem to be in free fall after an excellent start. Got yo be looking at minimum 4 points out of 6 minimum return, keep us ticking over nicely but is 6 out of 6 a crazy prospect?
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Dec 5, 2023 18:42:44 GMT 1
2 consecutive home games, Bristol are no mugs followed by Preston who seem to be in free fall after an excellent start. Got yo be looking at minimum 4 points out of 6 minimum return, keep us ticking over nicely but is 6 out of 6 a crazy prospect? Not crazy. It would be brilliant if we could achieve this. Hope we get a few stay away fans back for these two. |
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 5, 2023 19:06:28 GMT 1
2 consecutive home games, Bristol are no mugs followed by Preston who seem to be in free fall after an excellent start. Got yo be looking at minimum 4 points out of 6 minimum return, keep us ticking over nicely but is 6 out of 6 a crazy prospect? Keep forgetting about Preston, I'm watching Pet Needs at The Parish that night instead |
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Post by rockwall on Dec 5, 2023 20:53:07 GMT 1
2 consecutive home games, Bristol are no mugs followed by Preston who seem to be in free fall after an excellent start. Got yo be looking at minimum 4 points out of 6 minimum return, keep us ticking over nicely but is 6 out of 6 a crazy prospect? Keep forgetting about Preston, I'm watching Pet Needs at The Parish that night instead Easy to forget that one, always a shite dull game at home. |
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Post by gledholt terrier on Dec 5, 2023 23:21:24 GMT 1
Keep forgetting about Preston, I'm watching Pet Needs at The Parish that night instead Easy to forget that one, always a shite dull game at home. Colin Quaner, follow up king, would beg to differ (iconic 16/17 game) |
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Post by wildhogg on Dec 5, 2023 23:31:49 GMT 1
No reason why we can't win both of our next two games, both against teams which are beatable. I hope we go on the attack from the start. There's no need to sit back at home and against teams we shouldn't fear.
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Post by rockwall on Dec 5, 2023 23:39:54 GMT 1
Easy to forget that one, always a shite dull game at home. Colin Quaner, follow up king, would beg to differ (iconic 16/17 game) Was a shit game until then. Only good game I remember is the 3-0 win with the quick Rhodes hat trick. 2012 possibly? |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Dec 5, 2023 23:42:39 GMT 1
Bristol no away win since 4th October.
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Post by gledholt terrier on Dec 5, 2023 23:54:13 GMT 1
Colin Quaner, follow up king, would beg to differ (iconic 16/17 game) Was a shit game until then. Only good game I remember is the 3-0 win with the quick Rhodes hat trick. 2012 possibly? I only remember the pen and follow up so you are undoubtedly correct! |
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Post by durhamterrier on Dec 6, 2023 8:32:52 GMT 1
Really hope we take the game to Bristol City if I’m honest . Marginally better record than us this season suggests we’ve plenty to go at . Think we need positive results across these two games with four points the minimum - away trips to Millwall and Norwich never easy … even if league positions say otherwise.
I’d go with a solid foundation similar to last few games but much greater attacking impetus on forward positions
Maxwell (even if Nicholls is fit , he’s been solid(
Jackson Pearson Helik Lees Headley
Thomas Hogg Kasumu Koroma
Burgzorg
Knowing that Ward, Nakayama and maybe even Ruffels, Rudoni or Wiles can come in on Tuesday .
2-1 town
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Post by htfcterry on Dec 6, 2023 9:19:59 GMT 1
Heart says 1-0 Town.
Head says 1-2 Bristol City
I’d like to see us put a performance in at the very least and not have ridiculous possession stats in their favour.
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Post by runner76 on Dec 6, 2023 9:58:06 GMT 1
I’ll take 4 over the next two games!! Need to get at Bristol and give the home fans something to get behind
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Post by irverino on Dec 6, 2023 10:52:08 GMT 1
Heart says 1-0 Town. Head says 1-2 Bristol City I’d like to see us put a performance in at the very least and not have ridiculous possession stats in their favour. I think your thoughts will be echoed by many other Town fans, can we justify playing 2 lines of defence against Bristol City to smash & grab a win/point at home.....The stands will be deserted on Tuesday if we do, moneys on more caution hope I'm wrong. |
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Post by Tiro on Dec 6, 2023 11:42:09 GMT 1
Heart says 1-0 Town. Head says 1-2 Bristol City I’d like to see us put a performance in at the very least and not have ridiculous possession stats in their favour. I think your thoughts will be echoed by many other Town fans, can we justify playing 2 lines of defence against Bristol City to smash & grab a win/point at home.....The stands will be deserted on Tuesday if we do, moneys on more caution hope I'm wrong. Why not? We recorded the lowest ever possession over 90 mins in the league at home to Blackburn last season (19%) under Warnock. And everyone loved him. His average possession was less than 29% during his tenure. Like Warnock said, “if we had a lot more of the ball we’d be losing a lot of games, so I think we’ve got to be tight. When teams try and break us down we’ve got to be able to catch them on the break”. We’re a counter team at the moment. We don’t have the quality to keep the ball for long periods. So strap in for limited possession. |
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Post by irverino on Dec 6, 2023 12:10:07 GMT 1
I think your thoughts will be echoed by many other Town fans, can we justify playing 2 lines of defence against Bristol City to smash & grab a win/point at home.....The stands will be deserted on Tuesday if we do, moneys on more caution hope I'm wrong. Why not? We recorded the lowest ever possession over 90 mins in the league at home to Blackburn last season (19%) under Warnock. And everyone loved him. His average possession was less than 29% during his tenure. Like Warnock said, “if we had a lot more of the ball we’d be losing a lot of games, so I think we’ve got to be tight. When teams try and break us down we’ve got to be able to catch them on the break”. We’re a counter team at the moment. We don’t have the quality to keep the ball for long periods. So strap in for limited possession. After 40 games against a top six side we didn't have much choice plus Warnock had just won back to back games with smash & grab football scoring 7 goals in 2 games. This season NW upped the possession (& goals) which has fallen dramatically since DM came in from 6 goals in 3 games to currently 10 in 11........If high flying Robins (14th) really posses such a threat then maybe DM will stick to this style of football. |
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Post by dezzly on Dec 6, 2023 12:11:29 GMT 1
I think your thoughts will be echoed by many other Town fans, can we justify playing 2 lines of defence against Bristol City to smash & grab a win/point at home.....The stands will be deserted on Tuesday if we do, moneys on more caution hope I'm wrong. Why not? We recorded the lowest ever possession over 90 mins in the league at home to Blackburn last season (19%) under Warnock. And everyone loved him. His average possession was less than 29% during his tenure. Like Warnock said, “if we had a lot more of the ball we’d be losing a lot of games, so I think we’ve got to be tight. When teams try and break us down we’ve got to be able to catch them on the break”. We’re a counter team at the moment. We don’t have the quality to keep the ball for long periods. So strap in for limited possession. Agree there.we give the ball away far too easily if want to have it more and are far too slow at the back to start pushing players too far forward or pushing the defensive line any higher. It’s not exciting but it is what it is and the point was proved in many a game under Moore before Watford and the change of approach. We can however be more like the Sunderland game when we do get the ball and also maybe more importantly,look to press and win the ball back more.That alone would probably end up equating to more possession and crucially would look to the eye a lot more front foot. |
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Post by Tiro on Dec 6, 2023 12:48:39 GMT 1
Why not? We recorded the lowest ever possession over 90 mins in the league at home to Blackburn last season (19%) under Warnock. And everyone loved him. His average possession was less than 29% during his tenure. Like Warnock said, “if we had a lot more of the ball we’d be losing a lot of games, so I think we’ve got to be tight. When teams try and break us down we’ve got to be able to catch them on the break”. We’re a counter team at the moment. We don’t have the quality to keep the ball for long periods. So strap in for limited possession. After 40 games against a top six side we didn't have much choice plus Warnock had just won back to back games with smash & grab football scoring 7 goals in 2 games. This season NW upped the possession (& goals) which has fallen dramatically since DM came in from 6 goals in 3 games to currently 10 in 11........If high flying Robins (14th) really posses such a threat then maybe DM will stick to this style of football. Warnock took a team that was averaging 45.5% possession under Fotheringham and floored it (as I say, av. possession under Warnock last season was under 29%). Possession did increase this season under Warnock, to an average across his 8 games of 38%. But then the average possession under Moore, over a longer span of games, is 36%. Under Moore's first 8 games vs Warnocks 8 this season, we actually had more average possession and we played more games away from home and only took a point less. However arguably, our best results have come when we have looked to counter. All this posturing of percentages aside, they do go to show that we're not a possession team, and that results are worse when we try to build-up through the thirds. So getting back to your original point, all those that aren't going to turn up because possession is low, possibly need a reality check....they'd probably moan that we passed it backwards and sideways too much if we tried build anyway. Surely what matters are points at this stage. |
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Post by irverino on Dec 6, 2023 13:12:26 GMT 1
After 40 games against a top six side we didn't have much choice plus Warnock had just won back to back games with smash & grab football scoring 7 goals in 2 games. This season NW upped the possession (& goals) which has fallen dramatically since DM came in from 6 goals in 3 games to currently 10 in 11........If high flying Robins (14th) really posses such a threat then maybe DM will stick to this style of football. Warnock took a team that was averaging 45.5% possession under Fotheringham and floored it (as I say, av. possession under Warnock last season was under 29%). Possession did increase this season under Warnock, to an average across his 8 games of 38%. But then the average possession under Moore, over a longer span of games, is 36%. Under Moore's first 8 games vs Warnocks 8 this season, we actually had more average possession and we played more games away from home and only took a point less. However arguably, our best results have come when we have looked to counter. All this posturing of percentages aside, they do go to show that we're not a possession team, and that results are worse when we try to build-up through the thirds. So getting back to your original point, all those that aren't going to turn up because possession is low, possibly need a reality check....they'd probably moan that we passed it backwards and sideways too much if we tried build anyway. Surely what matters are points at this stage. Warnock came in with a third of the season left, we needed to play that way to stay up. DM came in with 39 games left to a team confident with 7 points from 9 & 40% av poss......If we play for another 0-0/smash & grab to a 14th placed team then I suspect the majority will not be impressed. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2023 13:31:52 GMT 1
Advance warning, I’m attending, so don’t expect any goals from Town! Hope the M1 is blocked  |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Dec 6, 2023 14:03:39 GMT 1
Advance warning, I’m attending, so don’t expect any goals from Town! Hope the M1 is blocked Too late, I’m already up! |
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Post by Tiro on Dec 6, 2023 15:51:03 GMT 1
Warnock took a team that was averaging 45.5% possession under Fotheringham and floored it (as I say, av. possession under Warnock last season was under 29%). Possession did increase this season under Warnock, to an average across his 8 games of 38%. But then the average possession under Moore, over a longer span of games, is 36%. Under Moore's first 8 games vs Warnocks 8 this season, we actually had more average possession and we played more games away from home and only took a point less. However arguably, our best results have come when we have looked to counter. All this posturing of percentages aside, they do go to show that we're not a possession team, and that results are worse when we try to build-up through the thirds. So getting back to your original point, all those that aren't going to turn up because possession is low, possibly need a reality check....they'd probably moan that we passed it backwards and sideways too much if we tried build anyway. Surely what matters are points at this stage. Warnock came in with a third of the season left, we needed to play that way to stay up. DM came in with 39 games left to a team confident with 7 points from 9 & 40% av poss......If we play for another 0-0/smash & grab to a 14th placed team then I suspect the majority will not be impressed. My point being, if you wish to use percentages as a barometer as to how we play and what our intent will be tactically, DMs record over the first 8 games is no different to that of Warnock’s. Including points. This idea we played any different under him is a myth. So you might as well right the season off until Feb 1 at the very least. |
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Post by Tinpot on Dec 6, 2023 17:30:49 GMT 1
2 consecutive home games, Bristol are no mugs followed by Preston who seem to be in free fall after an excellent start. Got yo be looking at minimum 4 points out of 6 minimum return, keep us ticking over nicely but is 6 out of 6 a crazy prospect? Not sure 6 points from last 5 games counts as freefall tbh. It's lower mid-table form. |
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Post by Big Ern on Dec 6, 2023 17:49:18 GMT 1
We should be going all out for the 6 points over the next two games. It would without a doubt put a large cushion between ourselves and the relegation spots and drag other teams into it. If we have a fit first 11 then there is no reason why we can't get the two wins
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