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Post by Porrohman on Dec 9, 2023 20:29:14 GMT 1
2 particular highlights were Pearson trapping the ball out for a throw in and REG backing off the pitch to control a pass when he could've stayed on and headed it 🤣
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Post by Big Ern on Dec 9, 2023 20:30:01 GMT 1
Those conditions never changed from the first half to the second. All I saw was a half arsed bunch of supposed footballers who looked like they couldn't wait to get off the football pitch against a side who every bit wanted to win that game. That was not good enough and blaming the conditions is a piss poor excuse. “ half arsed bunch” you’re talking absolute rubbish with that comment, some aren’t good enough, but there was no lack of effort, imo. I disagree, I don't often call the players out but today City were more committed in the tackle, first to almost every header and kept going right until the end. They also played the conditions much better than us.
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Post by ACW on Dec 9, 2023 20:30:47 GMT 1
DM said his “natural position” is right wing back. Every time I see him I actually question if anywhere on a (championship) football pitch is his natural position. This. In a sense he reminds me of Scott High. He's ok at a lot of things. If he could just become "good" at one of the things he is currently "ok" at he'd be fine. Unfortunately, whichever position you play him in he's got a major flaw for that position. He turns 25 next month. How much is he likely to improve? The simple answer is he's extremely unlikely to improve. He's probably as good as he's going to get. A bit like Scott High, the game seems to pass him by. He just doesn't do enough on the pitch.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Dec 9, 2023 20:30:49 GMT 1
I'm in a hotel just outside Grassington. Any positives today, apart from being the draw specialists in the Championship? My mate txt to say Kasumu was our motm, true? Don’t drink all the “Boltmaker”. I’m in Grassington on Weds and Thursday.
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Post by townarentbest on Dec 9, 2023 20:31:40 GMT 1
I'm in a hotel just outside Grassington. Any positives today, apart from being the draw specialists in the Championship? My mate txt to say Kasumu was our motm, true? Yes, not even a question about it.
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 9, 2023 20:33:21 GMT 1
In League One 🙄, in the Championship he has 14 goals in 4 seasons You come up with anti-Rhodes posts every time Porrohman and those stats don't paint the whole picture do they ? He is not the total answer on his own but he could be a million times better than any other suggestion I've seen if used correctly So why has he done bugger all at this level for donkeys years and why would all that change and he'd become the JR of 2011-12 if he came back to play for Captain Dull. I'm sorry that the stats don't fit your argument 🤷
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Post by richhtfc on Dec 9, 2023 20:37:23 GMT 1
We are good defensively, we’ve got good defenders. What we don’t have is good midfielders or attackers I'm not sure 80 shots is a sign of being good defensively. It suggests teams are creating far too many opportunities and either fluffing then or being denied by good goalkeeping Bristol should certainly have had more than 1 today with the chances they created Take the point but I think that’s because our midfield doesn’t offer good protection, we’re poor on the ball on the middle, too easily knocked off the ball. I maintain our defenders are good at this level though, Helik, Pearson and Lees would do a job into most Championship teams.
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Post by alfredsterrier on Dec 9, 2023 20:37:45 GMT 1
“ half arsed bunch” you’re talking absolute rubbish with that comment, some aren’t good enough, but there was no lack of effort, imo. I disagree, I don't often call the players out but today City were more committed in the tackle, first to almost every header and kept going right until the end. They also played the conditions much better than us. Agree. Why couldn't we just have a go when we had the wind behind us and with the rain harder to handle the ball?
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Post by Tinpot on Dec 9, 2023 20:38:17 GMT 1
We need a striker. Whether that's Rhodes or someone else is debatable.
However if we don't also strengthen the midfield we could have the most lethal finisher on the planet and not score unless we give them service.
More depth in the squad so you can rotate players out and prevent tiredness, a "Mooy type" midfielder that can create chances and a long term defensive midfielder so that our resident 35 year old can get a rest now and again.
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Post by Mounie for nothing on Dec 9, 2023 20:39:02 GMT 1
I thought we looked ok first half despite getting caught out down our left numerous times. Just got worse as the game went on though and the second half was pathetic. The manager seems completely unable to change the tactics mid game or at any point actually. Can we stop bringing Diarra on to the pitch until he's learned how to play football. May as well have ten men, he's useless. Managed to pick up a tiny bit of RL on my way home for a few minutes. Your know it's bad when they start questioning the manager. Bristol city looked poor but still better than us. All in all another boring, tedious Saturday afternoon down at the mac. The second half was spoilt by the conditions. You spelt players wrong
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Post by kennyk2 on Dec 9, 2023 20:40:10 GMT 1
Quite a lot of non-euphoric rabbits on here tonight.
Down from the freezing far north to a soppy Huddersfield for this one. One feeling I had walking up Leeds Road after the game was that I'd been entertained... two very different styles, though I'm not sure the way Town play is going to attract new fans, or fill the seats of those 5,000 missing season ticket holders (take note Mr Nagle if you're reading this... once you lose them they are very difficult to get back). I didn't hear any booing around me at the final whistle, and very few left early, so they must have been on the edge of their seats as much as I was, or they thought that if they stayed in the stadium long enough, it might stop raining.
No booing... that is apart from the officials who were probably some of the worst I've seen. I could put Mr Davies in the same category as a certain Mr Willis for those of you who are of a certain vintage.
I was a little taken aback by some of the callers on Radio Leeds post-match. Town did exactly what they've done for the previous five games. Glennon (who is now beginning to irritate me) stated that our win at Sunderland was so different, "organised, full of attacking intent". That is complete and utter bollox!
Stadium of Light Possession: Sunderland 76% - 24% Town. Shots: Sunderland 27(9) - 9(4) Town ... and Maxwell had his best game for many a long year I would wager.
Today Possession: Town 39% - 61% Bristol. Shots Town 6(4) - 15(4) Bristol.
At least today we had a bit more possession. I suppose the old tropes will come out... e.g. Sunderland are a better side than Bristol, but I'd suggest there is little difference between 4th and all those below. Anyone can win it on the day.
One or two players I need to mention. I thought Kasumu was outstanding and he gets an A from me. He is in a real purple patch at the moment and long may it continue. I'd move Hogg up from his usual B+ to an A-. He doesn't do everything right, but when the opposition are attacking I look to see where he is, 'cos I know he's going to stem the attack. Burgzorg (A-)... the opposition don't know what he's going to do next, but neither does Burgzorg... entertainer. Koroma (B+)... did well on his least preferred wing.
It wasn't all good though. Headley (C+) got turned four times in the first 20 minutes and Bristol should have profited. Wiles (C)... he just doesn't get into the game. Diarra (C) seems to have gone backwards and is a liability defensively. At this rate he's definitely not getting his contract renewed at the end of the season.
So Preston next. A win will be viewed as a decent couple of outings... a loss will put some pressure on Moore to start winning (think he's safe until the end of Feb). Another draw and the rabbits will be on prozac.
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Post by pauldaltonsboots on Dec 9, 2023 20:41:11 GMT 1
Two average teams at best today - I thought Del, Koroma and Kasumu linked well first half.
Tactically not sure why DM went 352 and not 343 today - gave up far too much space in wide areas and they really exploited that - thankfully they lacked a killer instinct when getting in behind us, and Maxwell was excellent.
Second half we were really poor - felt like playing for the draw.
Positives
4 unbeaten Kasumu was excellent Maxwell
Positive and Negative
Koroma and Burgzorg - they looked sharp and a threat. The negative being we are so defensive we don’t get them on the ball enough.
Negatives
Pretty uninspiring stuff again
On to Tuesday…hopefully in better weather!
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Post by Tinpot on Dec 9, 2023 20:41:57 GMT 1
I'm in a hotel just outside Grassington. Any positives today, apart from being the draw specialists in the Championship? My mate txt to say Kasumu was our motm, true? I would suggest that being at Grassington was a positive. It's lovely there.
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Post by ACW on Dec 9, 2023 20:42:16 GMT 1
You come up with anti-Rhodes posts every time Porrohman and those stats don't paint the whole picture do they ? He is not the total answer on his own but he could be a million times better than any other suggestion I've seen if used correctly So why has he done bugger all at this level for donkeys years and why would all that change and he'd become the JR of 2011-12 if he came back to play for Captain Dull. I'm sorry that the stats don't fit your argument 🤷 Rhodes isn't good enough for the Championship anymore. We've all seen that over the past few years. And he would have little impact on our team the way we are set up at the moment. He is individually better than what we have currently available in my opinion. Not a very high bar admittedly, but he is. However, I would hope we can recruit someone better in January, so the Rhodes arguments would become irrelevant. If we don't, then I suspect we will recall him. Not because he's going to score loads of goals, but because he's that little bit better than the crap options we have at the moment.
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Post by durhamterrier on Dec 9, 2023 20:42:23 GMT 1
I feel most managers play these two games as a 4 point minimum return and this was the game to set the tone … Moore’s line up looked attacking but the tactics were very negative .
Kasumu was very good , as was Headley in phases , but we largely looked scared of a pisspoor Bristol city team and heaps loads of pressure on Tuesday night .
Ref was wank , but for both teams , and we all know we never get penalties !
Subs were shocking, surely somewhere in the club we have a striker knocking about b team or u19 football that is worth a 6 minute spell …
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Post by kennyk2 on Dec 9, 2023 20:45:43 GMT 1
I'm in a hotel just outside Grassington. Any positives today, apart from being the draw specialists in the Championship? My mate txt to say Kasumu was our motm, true? Head and shoulders above anybody out there today. He'll sleep well tonight.
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Post by Big Ern on Dec 9, 2023 20:46:28 GMT 1
So why has he done bugger all at this level for donkeys years and why would all that change and he'd become the JR of 2011-12 if he came back to play for Captain Dull. I'm sorry that the stats don't fit your argument 🤷 Rhodes isn't good enough for the Championship anymore. We've all seen that over the past few years. And he would have little impact on our team the way we are set up at the moment. He is individually better than what we have currently available in my opinion. Not a very high bar admittedly, but he is. However, I would hope we can recruit someone better in January, so the Rhodes arguments would become irrelevant. If we don't, then I suspect we will recall him. Not because he's going to score loads of goals, but because he's that little bit better than the crap options we have at the moment. If we had the players to give him the ball he would score. He must be full of confidence right now and that is exactly what we need. To say people don't want him back is bonkers imo
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Post by wildhogg on Dec 9, 2023 20:53:35 GMT 1
Not great today, but then again we're far from being a great team. I thought Kasumu was our best, closely followed by Headley - despite his first half defensive lapses. A decent striker and a decent midfielder who can retain possession, and we'd look like a decent team at this level.
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Post by kennyk2 on Dec 9, 2023 20:54:45 GMT 1
Two average teams at best today - I thought Del, Koroma and Kasumu linked well first half. Tactically not sure why DM went 352 and not 343 today - gave up far too much space in wide areas and they really exploited that - thankfully they lacked a killer instinct when getting in behind us, and Maxwell was excellent. Second half we were really poor - felt like playing for the draw. Positives 4 unbeaten Kasumu was excellent Maxwell Positive and Negative Koroma and Burgzorg - they looked sharp and a threat. The negative being we are so defensive we don’t get them on the ball enough. Negatives Pretty uninspiring stuff again On to Tuesday…hopefully in better weather! UTT Agree with that pretty much. We need a win before we lose our next game if that makes sense!
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Dec 9, 2023 21:00:59 GMT 1
Great composure for the goal, but when we managed to break after that point we seemed to lose our heads.
I’ve already said the Ref was dogshit, but he was that bad I’ll go for an encore. I’m not sure if they have assessors at this level, but a 2 out of 10 would be very generous today.
In fairness I was expecting far more mistakes today, it can’t have been easy playing in that weather, but it still surprised me how some of them were still getting caught out when they should have been anticipating the ball holding up in the wind.
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 9, 2023 21:04:02 GMT 1
Rhodes isn't good enough for the Championship anymore. We've all seen that over the past few years. And he would have little impact on our team the way we are set up at the moment. He is individually better than what we have currently available in my opinion. Not a very high bar admittedly, but he is. However, I would hope we can recruit someone better in January, so the Rhodes arguments would become irrelevant. If we don't, then I suspect we will recall him. Not because he's going to score loads of goals, but because he's that little bit better than the crap options we have at the moment. If we had the players to give him the ball he would score. He must be full of confidence right now and that is exactly what we need. To say people don't want him back is bonkers imo If.........
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Post by workshyfop on Dec 9, 2023 21:08:08 GMT 1
If we had the players to give him the ball he would score. He must be full of confidence right now and that is exactly what we need. To say people don't want him back is bonkers imo If......... You must be mental if you think we currently have better options.
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Post by Sio on Dec 9, 2023 21:09:15 GMT 1
He claimed that REG coming on for Ward was like-for-like because Koroma moved up front and REG adopted his 'natural' position in RWB, hence losing no attacking players. Is that a "please sack me" statement? I really hope so.
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 9, 2023 21:14:06 GMT 1
You must be mental if you think we currently have better options. We don't. If he comes back we still don't have a Championship quality striker but my reply was to the bit where he said IF we had the players to create chances for JR. We haven't.
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Post by 28901 on Dec 9, 2023 21:15:19 GMT 1
How Edmonds green is a professional footballer I will never know A good point in the end but I’m so tired of going into every game like we are a conference team playing against premier league opposition. I’m having a break from going for awhile now Like about 10000 others judging by the stand today. Around 8000 I reckon. Probably fewer v PNE midweek.
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Post by portugalterrier on Dec 9, 2023 21:17:27 GMT 1
Quite a lot of non-euphoric rabbits on here tonight. Down from the freezing far north to a soppy Huddersfield for this one. One feeling I had walking up Leeds Road after the game was that I'd been entertained... two very different styles, though I'm not sure the way Town play is going to attract new fans, or fill the seats of those 5,000 missing season ticket holders (take note Mr Nagle if you're reading this... once you lose them they are very difficult to get back). I didn't hear any booing around me at the final whistle, and very few left early, so they must have been on the edge of their seats as much as I was, or they thought that if they stayed in the stadium long enough, it might stop raining. No booing... that is apart from the officials who were probably some of the worst I've seen. I could put Mr Davies in the same category as a certain Mr Willis for those of you who are of a certain vintage. I was a little taken aback by some of the callers on Radio Leeds post-match. Town did exactly what they've done for the previous five games. Glennon (who is now beginning to irritate me) stated that our win at Sunderland was so different, "organised, full of attacking intent". That is complete and utter bollox! Stadium of LightPossession: Sunderland 76% - 24% Town. Shots: Sunderland 27(9) - 9(4) Town ... and Maxwell had his best game for many a long year I would wager. TodayPossession: Town 39% - 61% Bristol. Shots Town 6(4) - 15(4) Bristol. At least today we had a bit more possession. I suppose the old tropes will come out... e.g. Sunderland are a better side than Bristol, but I'd suggest there is little difference between 4th and all those below. Anyone can win it on the day. One or two players I need to mention. I thought Kasumu was outstanding and he gets an A from me. He is in a real purple patch at the moment and long may it continue. I'd move Hogg up from his usual B+ to an A-. He doesn't do everything right, but when the opposition are attacking I look to see where he is, 'cos I know he's going to stem the attack. Burgzorg (A-)... the opposition don't know what he's going to do next, but neither does Burgzorg... entertainer. Koroma (B+)... did well on his least preferred wing. It wasn't all good though. Headley (C+) got turned four times in the first 20 minutes and Bristol should have profited. Wiles (C)... he just doesn't get into the game. Diarra (C) seems to have gone backwards and is a liability defensively. At this rate he's definitely not getting his contract renewed at the end of the season. So Preston next. A win will be viewed as a decent couple of outings... a loss will put some pressure on Moore to start winning (think he's safe until the end of Feb). Another draw and the rabbits will be on prozac. Don’t normally listen to RL, too many callers who haven’t even been to the game, however , Glennon, his hatred and negativity to Moore is beyond irritating it’s totally irrational , won’t be bothering listening again.Good balanced summary Kenny 👍
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Post by workshyfop on Dec 9, 2023 21:17:47 GMT 1
You must be mental if you think we currently have better options. We don't. If he comes back we still don't have a Championship quality striker but my reply was to the bit where he said IF we had the players to create chances for JR. We haven't. We don’t have players good enough to give him chances, which he would take (as stats prove). To say he isn’t Championship standard is just daft.
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Post by DATM Travel Agent on Dec 9, 2023 21:18:03 GMT 1
The Ref was utterly dogshit today. One of the worst I’ve seen in a while. Had 2 big decisions to make today and got both of them horribly wrong. Firstly fails to give us a free kick on the edge of their box and 30 seconds later they score. Then he and his assistant fail to give an absolutely stonewall penalty for handball. Granted there's no guarantee we would've scored it, but his astounding incompetence directly negatively influenced the result. Also there's Pearson getting booked for being fouled, and there was another foul near halfway in the second half where we could see from the South Stand that the ball was played, but the ref decided it was a foul. He was happy enough to give us free kicks if the foul was more than 40 yards from their goal, but any close 3 than that he just wasn't interested.
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Post by 28901 on Dec 9, 2023 21:18:18 GMT 1
Positive thinking. It's not a good watch but we are at least grinding out results You realise if you draw every game you will probably get relegated..
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Dec 9, 2023 21:20:26 GMT 1
Positive thinking. It's not a good watch but we are at least grinding out results You realise if you draw every game you will probably get relegated.. .. Gosh! Now you mention it. Thanks for the valuable info
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