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Post by nicovaesen on Dec 10, 2023 9:10:21 GMT 1
The game/tactics were summed up for me when in the second half burgzorg broke with the ball in the middle of the park and there was literally no one running to support him. There was nothing. They just held their defensive positions waiting for the inevitable losing the ball. At home against brizzle when the game was there for the taking is criminal.
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Post by Jimuano on Dec 10, 2023 9:35:15 GMT 1
The first half was actually a very decent performance and not an awful watch. We had lots more possession than in recent games. A solid defensive shape but still a definite (almost exciting at times) threat on the attack also. We took a deserved lead and probably could have gone in 2 up at half time.
I'm sure at half time Moore would have said to keep it tight for the first 5 mins of the second half.
BUT we were extremely sloppy from the start and that was such a poor poor goal to concede on the back of 2 or 3 misplaced passes/ individual errors.
Really frustrating. That then gave a poor side impetus, with them looking the most likely to score and us not having any quality in depth to replace knackered legs with positive substitutions.
There are 6 more games left up to 1st Jan, then 12 days without a league game. Hopefully we get those (min) 4 new signing first team ready players (not including Rhodes) as early as poss in the window, to help us to mid table dizzy heights.
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Post by wildhogg on Dec 10, 2023 9:38:41 GMT 1
I guess we need to still be patient. DM has nothing to work with. Those that were knackered yesterday couldn’t come off as there was no one to replace them. Headley - can be good but not champ ready yet. Reg - awful Wiles - played okay first half then he was knackered. Hogg - 35 and can’t play every game but we have no choice. He will pick up an injury soon for sure. Diarra - no way should he ever get on the pitch. He just isn’t ready. Ward - not fit. Useless all game. No way has signing him been better than keeping Rhodes. All Jordan needed was a run of games. Joke. Moore : why did he not squeeze them up the pitch ? Balls over the top were just running through to maxwell. Positives : kasumu - let’s hope he stays fit. Again I worry about his injury record - playing a lot of games. Should have come off when he got cramp. Maxwell - has taken his chance well. Nichols won’t on the bench for ever though. and as we all know, this is an awful squad. I predict now that we only sign a couple in January. Nagle and co will just say it’s hard to do business in January. Which is horseshit - if you spend some money you can do the deals. But he won’t. Merry Xmas town fans. Agree with the vast majority of the above, aside from regarding Headley. I think he's beginning to look like the real deal at this level. In terms of Ward, I arrived a few minutes after the kick-off yesterday and missed the teams being announced. I genuinely didn't notice him on the pitch until the old guy next tk me started berating him in about the 30th minute.
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Post by bluesandtwos on Dec 10, 2023 9:41:21 GMT 1
Love how some supporters are giving Matt glennon pelters however, he has actually played the game at a professional level strikes me as weird that fans will ridicule him for his current profession. How many posters on here have played for town? “Sometimes it’s better playing against the wind”, says a goalkeeper who probably never even passed out from the back on a still day. The wind was horrendous second half and swirling around. We lost our right side yesterday. Jackson to injury and Thomas suspended. That’s on top of all the injuries we already had. Kasumu struggled with cramp as he is not long back from a long time out and really covers some ground, but our resident pundit still blamed Moore. It seems to be the easy option for him.
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Post by kennyk2 on Dec 10, 2023 9:47:26 GMT 1
Alan Nixon on Patreon saying that we are ready to cash in on Diarra.
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Post by benhomly on Dec 10, 2023 9:48:27 GMT 1
The first half was actually a very decent performance and not an awful watch. We had lots more possession than in recent games. A solid defensive shape but still a definite (almost exciting at times) threat on the attack also. We took a deserved lead and probably could have gone in 2 up at half time. I'm sure at half time Moore would have said to keep it tight for the first 5 mins of the second half. BUT we were extremely sloppy from the start and that was such a poor poor goal to concede on the back of 2 or 3 misplaced passes/ individual errors. Really frustrating. That then gave a poor side impetus, with them looking the most likely to score and us not having any quality in depth to replace knackered legs with positive substitutions. There are 6 more games left up to 1st Jan, then 12 days without a league game. Hopefully we get those (min) 4 new signing first team ready players (not including Rhodes) as early as poss in the window, to help us to mid table dizzy heights. Not sure if you arrived a bit late or not but we could have been 2 down after less than 2 minutes. If those had gone in it could have turned into another Norwich, Cardiff, Birmingham, Leeds. And then to concede inside the first couple of minutes of the second half makes it even more criminal.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2023 9:48:57 GMT 1
The game/tactics were summed up for me when in the second half burgzorg broke with the ball in the middle of the park and there was literally no one running to support him. There was nothing. They just held their defensive positions waiting for the inevitable losing the ball. At home against brizzle when the game was there for the taking is criminal. I've seen it mentioned in several games that"the game was there for the taking" The other team is generally better than us so I don't think any game is there for the taking
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2023 9:54:28 GMT 1
Poor yesterday, the only real highlights was seeing Kasumu continue his rich vein of form for us - I think avoided a yellow card too.
Ward offers nothing as a striker.
Koroma tried hard.
Diara is absolutely dire. Lightweight, falls over, runs into traffic, can't passs, can't see the pass, doesn't shoot, doesn't head. He has had so many oppourtunities and does the exact same thing every single time, never learns. He's just a nippy, low centre of gravity player that can nutmeg an opposition once every couple of games. Should be nowhere near a Championship 11. Saying that, his style wouldn't work in league 1 or 2 either.
The bench and REG coming on shows how grossly underinvested our threadbare squad is. REG Wouldn't get in a top 4 of League 2 starting 11. Shambolic.
Not a fan of Moore but wish him the best since the board aren't going to change their minds any time soon - but his hands are tied with this atrocius squad.
Warnock did and was getting a lot more out of them but there's very few managers that have that capabality - DM isn't one of them.
Missed Sorba's engergy and delivery too.
3 points essential on Tuesday. QPR have more quality and have picked up now that baffoon Ainsworth got the chop.
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Post by bblueterrier on Dec 10, 2023 9:56:03 GMT 1
Morning all some thoughts on the game & situation as a whole. Now it's a game we should have been looking to win but the squad is so short not just on quality but on sheer 1st team players - a combination of players reluctance to play under Warnock & Warnock's reluctance to sign certain players. MC, JE & KN IMO could also be blamed for being naive in the summer signing just 2 oufield players - not counting the Stoke RB.
Now I personally don't think Moore is the man for the long term project but he is squeezing just about as much as he can out of this limited squad.
Big issues with mobility, pace & power across the squad - hence the massive reliance on Burgzorg, Headley & Sorba as they can get the team up the pitch.
Lees & Pearson although great servants for the club IMO need to be moved on if the club is to progress towards the top half - Hogg's role must be minimised significantly also. Pearson is a great body on the line type centre half but his ability on the ball would look poor at non leauge level & he causes many potential attacking moves to end before they begin. The club must recruit two younger mobile CBs who are comfortable on the ball - much like Luton did when they let Pearson go & replaced with the likes of Burke & Osho.
We need to pick up minimum 5-6 points so stay around the pack till Jan where DM & the club will look to address the significant issues with atleast 4/5 signings - PL loans being most likely.
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Post by ldotm on Dec 10, 2023 10:10:41 GMT 1
Poor yesterday, the only real highlights was seeing Kasumu continue his rich vein of form for us - I think avoided a yellow card too. Ward offers nothing as a striker. Koroma tried hard. Diara is absolutely dire. Lightweight, falls over, runs into traffic, can't passs, can't see the pass, doesn't shoot, doesn't head. He has had so many oppourtunities and does the exact same thing every single time, never learns. He's just a nippy, low centre of gravity player that can nutmeg an opposition once every couple of games. Should be nowhere near a Championship 11. Saying that, his style wouldn't work in league 1 or 2 either. The bench and REG coming on shows how grossly underinvested our threadbare squad is. REG Wouldn't get in a top 4 of League 2 starting 11. Shambolic. Not a fan of Moore but wish him the best since the board aren't going to change their minds any time soon - but his hands are tied with this atrocius squad. Warnock did and was getting a lot more out of them but there's very few managers that have that capabality - DM isn't one of them. Missed Sorba's engergy and delivery too. 3 points essential on Tuesday. QPR have more quality and have picked up now that baffoon Ainsworth got the chop. I agree with some of your points, but why do fans love do exaggerate things. REG couldn’t get in a top 4 league 2 side? It’s widely known Rotherham fans thought he was very good in their promotion L1 side.
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Post by htfcterry on Dec 10, 2023 10:15:28 GMT 1
Poor yesterday, the only real highlights was seeing Kasumu continue his rich vein of form for us - I think avoided a yellow card too. Ward offers nothing as a striker. Koroma tried hard. Diara is absolutely dire. Lightweight, falls over, runs into traffic, can't passs, can't see the pass, doesn't shoot, doesn't head. He has had so many oppourtunities and does the exact same thing every single time, never learns. He's just a nippy, low centre of gravity player that can nutmeg an opposition once every couple of games. Should be nowhere near a Championship 11. Saying that, his style wouldn't work in league 1 or 2 either. The bench and REG coming on shows how grossly underinvested our threadbare squad is. REG Wouldn't get in a top 4 of League 2 starting 11. Shambolic. Not a fan of Moore but wish him the best since the board aren't going to change their minds any time soon - but his hands are tied with this atrocius squad. Warnock did and was getting a lot more out of them but there's very few managers that have that capabality - DM isn't one of them. Missed Sorba's engergy and delivery too. 3 points essential on Tuesday. QPR have more quality and have picked up now that baffoon Ainsworth got the chop. I agree with some of your points, but why do fans love do exaggerate things. REG couldn’t get in a top 4 league 2 side? It’s widely known Rotherham fans thought he was very good in their promotion L1 side. In his natural RWB position? 🤣
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Post by stevvy on Dec 10, 2023 10:22:58 GMT 1
Alan Nixon on Patreon saying that we are ready to cash in on Diarra. To be fair if he learnt to lift his head and pass, he wouldn't be with us anyway. The amount of time he's gone on a great run, but not lifted his head, so not passed to someone and the attack has broken down is very frustrating. Would hope we'd get an OK fee with a chunky add on if he did go though (although right now, can we actually afford to let any players go, given we're not exactly flush with genuine first team options in the squad as a whole, let alone in midfield)
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Post by willo on Dec 10, 2023 10:24:18 GMT 1
The game/tactics were summed up for me when in the second half burgzorg broke with the ball in the middle of the park and there was literally no one running to support him. There was nothing. They just held their defensive positions waiting for the inevitable losing the ball. At home against brizzle when the game was there for the taking is criminal. And it’s been the same for several weeks now.
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Post by portugalterrier on Dec 10, 2023 10:43:18 GMT 1
“ half arsed bunch” you’re talking absolute rubbish with that comment, some aren’t good enough, but there was no lack of effort, imo. Well call me what the fuck you want but I disagree. If you don't like it sugar then cry somewhere else. Are you 12 ? , if you can’t reply in an adult manner why bother ?
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Post by bluesandtwos on Dec 10, 2023 10:54:08 GMT 1
The game/tactics were summed up for me when in the second half burgzorg broke with the ball in the middle of the park and there was literally no one running to support him. There was nothing. They just held their defensive positions waiting for the inevitable losing the ball. At home against brizzle when the game was there for the taking is criminal. And it’s been the same for several weeks now. Confidence? Like parking the bus when we went 2 up against QPR? They just look nervous to me, as does the crowd.
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Post by kennyk2 on Dec 10, 2023 10:56:17 GMT 1
Well call me what the fuck you want but I disagree. If you don't like it sugar then cry somewhere else. Are you 12 ? , if you can’t reply in an adult manner why bother ? There was a poster replying to another this week asking the same question, "Are you 12?". The poster replied, no I'm 48, but I think they missed the + sign out.
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Post by Big Ern on Dec 10, 2023 10:59:14 GMT 1
Well call me what the fuck you want but I disagree. If you don't like it sugar then cry somewhere else. Are you 12 ? , if you can’t reply in an adult manner why bother ? You are the one who came in with the insult because you didn't like my opinion. Maybe reflect on your own posting before you call out others. Nothing more to say to you.
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Post by gledholt terrier on Dec 10, 2023 10:59:46 GMT 1
The first half was actually a very decent performance and not an awful watch. We had lots more possession than in recent games. A solid defensive shape but still a definite (almost exciting at times) threat on the attack also. We took a deserved lead and probably could have gone in 2 up at half time. I'm sure at half time Moore would have said to keep it tight for the first 5 mins of the second half. BUT we were extremely sloppy from the start and that was such a poor poor goal to concede on the back of 2 or 3 misplaced passes/ individual errors. Really frustrating. That then gave a poor side impetus, with them looking the most likely to score and us not having any quality in depth to replace knackered legs with positive substitutions. There are 6 more games left up to 1st Jan, then 12 days without a league game. Hopefully we get those (min) 4 new signing first team ready players (not including Rhodes) as early as poss in the window, to help us to mid table dizzy heights. That is a pretty generous assessment of a first half which could and probably should have seen us concede 2 or 3 within the first 15 minutes. Only Maxwell and slightly delayed shot taking saved us from a Cardiff sized deficit. To be outstripped once down our left once was poor; at least 3 times was monstrously poor on and off the pitch. Once they became accustomed to playing against technically superior players, they adapted, but since this is what they face game in, game out, it is probably as well that they assume it will be the case every time. In a dismal 90 minutes, they showed some flair and ability for a small portion of the first half but being 1-0 up at half time was still a travesty. However, the second half performance of a completely inadequate referee and his equally inept assistants put paid to Town’s chances of grinding out a win - not blowing up for a routine foul on Koroma on the edge of their box seconds changed the course of the game. This isn’t to say Town would have scored from a dangerous position, but it would’ve meant not being pegged back at a disastrous time. That doesn’t excuse an appalling second half, most of which was brainless - launching aerial balls in to the teeth of a swirling, howling wind was beyond idiocy. As an inadequate bench started to replace the tired, an already difficult to discern shape melted away. That last half hour was one of the worst of an already quite awful season, notwithstanding the absolute nonsense of a referee. By the end, you could only wonder at the captain capping a shockingly poor personal performance by passing sideways (to bloody REG of all people) rather than take the obvious option (which had been wrongly taken all half) of sticking it in the box to see what happened with no risk of a breakaway. Boring, clueless and massively fortunate to get a point.
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Post by rockwall on Dec 10, 2023 11:10:15 GMT 1
“ half arsed bunch” you’re talking absolute rubbish with that comment, some aren’t good enough, but there was no lack of effort, imo. Well call me what the fuck you want but I disagree. If you don't like it sugar then cry somewhere else. Specsavers for Big Ern beckons... Difference between effort and ability. Are they good enough.. absolutely not. Do they put effort in? Absolutely, it is clear they are playing for the manager and I haven't seen any lack of effort by any player.
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Post by crux on Dec 10, 2023 11:28:25 GMT 1
Alan Nixon on Patreon saying that we are ready to cash in on Diarra. Based on yesterday's performance we won't get enough for the team's post match drinks 😉
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Post by Big Ern on Dec 10, 2023 11:34:15 GMT 1
Well call me what the fuck you want but I disagree. If you don't like it sugar then cry somewhere else. Specsavers for Big Ern beckons... Difference between effort and ability. Are they good enough.. absolutely not. Do they put effort in? Absolutely, it is clear they are playing for the manager and I haven't seen any lack of effort by Aby player. In that second half I saw players backing out of challenges and an almost lethargic energy to the team. City are no great shakes yet they remained committed in the tackle and kept pushing until the end. That not ability it's effort. Maybe they don't like playing in the wind and rain I don't know but there was certainly something lacking beyond ability yesterday
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Post by dalesterrier on Dec 10, 2023 11:37:23 GMT 1
Alan Nixon on Patreon saying that we are ready to cash in on Diarra. The report makes it sound like he won't sign a new deal as we aren't going to let him leave for free in the summer And we're hoping for early deals including a surprise foreign signing
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Post by nutjacker on Dec 10, 2023 11:37:37 GMT 1
Once again a tough watch, the dire worsening conditions certainly didn’t help. They carved us open with ease down our left before we scored & should have been at least 2 up.
Watching from near the dugouts DM was just stood like a statue while their gaffer was constantly encouraging and looking to change things to exploit our weaknesses
Also noticed masses of empty seats in the Kilner Bank but that’s hardly a surprise. Be even more with a nailed on 0-0 (at best) to look forward to on Tuesday, that’s not me being negative it’s just the reality of where we are right now with this weak squad and uninspiring manager. Hopefully Koroma’s knock isn’t a bad one as without him or Thomas we have zero creativity.
On the plus side Burgzorg was a threat and Kasumu was very good once again. Thought Wiles was good in patches first half but once again totally faded second half. Ward battled but was largely anonymous and REG is so poor at this level
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Dec 10, 2023 11:38:38 GMT 1
That Ref still rankles me.
When you’re a team that’s trying to rebuild its confidence, some of those decisions yesterday make it harder for them to move forward.
I know they’re professional and they’re trained to play to the whistle, get on with the game, but you look at some of the fouls they were given vs the ones we didn’t get, and you begin to wonder when your luck will change.
A bit like the foul on Hogg last week.
The standard of refereeing is just poor and inconsistent.
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Post by rockwall on Dec 10, 2023 11:41:48 GMT 1
That Ref still rankles me. When you’re a team that’s trying to rebuild its confidence, some of those decisions yesterday make it harder for them to move forward. I know they’re professional and they’re trained to play to the whistle, get on with the game, but you look at some of the fouls they were given vs the ones we didn’t get, and you begin to wonder when your luck will change. A bit like the foul on Hogg last week. The standard of refereeing is just poor and inconsistent. The major decision was bewildering. How is it not handball? But overall he was shite for both teams. The Hogg one last week, just as bad.
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Post by kennyk2 on Dec 10, 2023 11:43:16 GMT 1
Alan Nixon on Patreon saying that we are ready to cash in on Diarra. The report makes it sound like he won't sign a new deal as we aren't going to let him leave for free in the summer And we're hoping for early deals including a surprise foreign signing His fall in form has been a great disappointment... perhaps he needs to go to resurrect his career. Interesting about the surprise foreign signing. I'm guessing what Nixon means is he's surprised that a player of this caliber would want to sign for little ol' Huddersfield. Here's hoping.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Dec 10, 2023 11:48:35 GMT 1
Hopefully we’ll see a decent view of the handball on the extended highlights.
I’m not sure if the players will know what to do if we actually get awarded one this season…
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Post by ram on Dec 10, 2023 11:51:22 GMT 1
I was going to post something,but it would be a waste of time.Now I am lost for words.
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Post by htafcokay on Dec 10, 2023 11:56:35 GMT 1
Well call me what the fuck you want but I disagree. If you don't like it sugar then cry somewhere else. Specsavers for Big Ern beckons... Difference between effort and ability. Are they good enough.. absolutely not. Do they put effort in? Absolutely, it is clear they are playing for the manager and I haven't seen any lack of effort by Aby player. Big Ern is just being negative. Perhaps he should practice what he preaches to others.
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Post by gledholt terrier on Dec 10, 2023 12:04:39 GMT 1
Hopefully we’ll see a decent view of the handball on the extended highlights. I’m not sure if the players will know what to do if we actually get awarded one this season… Saw it on EFL highlights (which I haven’t watched for ages - how bad is that shit?) - pretty conclusive.
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