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Post by themanfromatlantis on Dec 10, 2023 16:55:18 GMT 1
Someone needs to ask the players why they didn’t shove that last minute FK into the mixer?
A bit of a daft decision when you consider there’s a bloody scoreboard showing them the added time.
At least the Ref let us feck that one up, unlike that Ref the other week who didn’t let us take our one and only corner of the game.
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Post by portugalterrier on Dec 10, 2023 17:04:25 GMT 1
If you read, it actually says “ we don’t give credit to the missing players “ , but don’t let fact get in the way. Yes I know, I took it out of context to match the rest of the illiterate drivel you spouted in your post. You mean your “ illiterate”, ie you can’t read correctly !
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Post by goodbet on Dec 10, 2023 17:09:49 GMT 1
The squad hasn't been fine for a long while, but there didn't seem to be too much concern at the start of the season. Probably due to the fact Warnock was still in charge. When the poor quality transfer window was pointed out the biggest shout was that we would be alright because we had Warnock.
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Dec 10, 2023 17:16:37 GMT 1
Yes I know, I took it out of context to match the rest of the illiterate drivel you spouted in your post. You mean your “ illiterate”, ie you can’t read correctly ! Being “illiterate” refers to being unable to write as well as read. I’m assuming you meant to write “you’re illiterate” because “your illiterate” makes no sense, nor did your original post. Please explain who these so-called Town players Katsuma and Ruffells are, as I’ve not heard of either.
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Post by portugalterrier on Dec 10, 2023 17:19:28 GMT 1
You mean your “ illiterate”, ie you can’t read correctly ! Being “illiterate” refers to being unable to write as well as read. I’m assuming you meant to write “you’re illiterate” because “your illiterate” makes no sense, as did your original post. Please explain who these so-called Town players Katsuma and Ruffells are, as I’ve not heard of either. Thank you for correcting my misspelling 👍. Always willing to learn from perfection 😉.
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Dec 10, 2023 17:20:59 GMT 1
Being “illiterate” refers to being unable to write as well as read. I’m assuming you meant to write “you’re illiterate” because “your illiterate” makes no sense, as did your original post. Please explain who these so-called Town players Katsuma and Ruffells are, as I’ve not heard of either. Thank you for correcting my misspelling 👍. Always willing to learn from perfection 😉. Glad to hear it.
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Post by htfcterry on Dec 10, 2023 17:37:56 GMT 1
Yes I know, I took it out of context to match the rest of the illiterate drivel you spouted in your post. You mean your “ illiterate”, ie you can’t read correctly ! 😂 Fuck me, yeah alright whatever. Put the Sangria’s down.
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Post by portugalterrier on Dec 10, 2023 18:14:22 GMT 1
You mean your “ illiterate”, ie you can’t read correctly ! 😂 Fuck me, yeah alright whatever. Put the Sangria’s down. Think you will find Sangria is of Spanish origin, Super Bock/ Sagres, are probably the words you’re looking for !
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Post by Sparrow on Dec 10, 2023 18:40:04 GMT 1
Alan Nixon on Patreon saying that we are ready to cash in on Diarra. I personally won't be upset to see him go. Hasn't developed at all at Town. He's the same head down merchant he was when he joined. He’s still only 20 and realistically only played a handful of matches. It’s a pitty he got injured in pre-season last season as he was due to go on a season long loan in league 1. That would have potentially done him the world of good. He’s not Championship ready as yet unfortunately. He seems to have lost his confidence since DM came in. Would be a real pity to see him leave as I still think he’ll develop into a very very good player. We’ve given a lot of youngsters much more time to develop. It would seem a real shame to lose Bilokapic, Camara and Diarra within 6 months
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 10, 2023 18:49:07 GMT 1
Yes I know, I took it out of context to match the rest of the illiterate drivel you spouted in your post. You mean your “ illiterate”, ie you can’t read correctly ! You're 😉
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Post by townrwe on Dec 10, 2023 18:54:32 GMT 1
Alot taken in by the club narrative spouted on here by club officials.... its bollox.. the squad today was fine. The excuses for shite performances have run out and so has Darren Moores time. 2 wins in 13.....that's dreadful. Why give Moore the chance and not the same chance to schofield? I reckon Hoyle would have pulled the plug on this now and rightly so. "The squad today was fine" Did you really type that? You think the squad is fine? I know you have an agenda against Moore, and want to blame everything on him, but to suggest the squad was fine is staggering. Starting XI today was one of the better ones in the last 2 or 3 years... who was missing? rudoni who was nowhere near last year, even if I liked him and sorba who was on loan. Tu
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Post by portugalterrier on Dec 10, 2023 18:59:04 GMT 1
You mean your “ illiterate”, ie you can’t read correctly ! You're 😉 Thanks, however the Sage of Walton-on-The-Hill has already claimed the honour of grammar corrector of the day award.
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Post by ACW on Dec 10, 2023 19:34:01 GMT 1
"The squad today was fine" Did you really type that? You think the squad is fine? I know you have an agenda against Moore, and want to blame everything on him, but to suggest the squad was fine is staggering. Starting XI today was one of the better ones in the last 2 or 3 years... who was missing? rudoni who was nowhere near last year, even if I liked him and sorba who was on loan. Tu That squad has very little Championship quality. Rudoni and Thomas add more quality, but even with them in the team, it's still comparatively poor. But you keep blaming Moore. It's all his fault, and a new manager would magically get so much more out of our limited players.
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Post by ACW on Dec 10, 2023 19:41:14 GMT 1
I personally won't be upset to see him go. Hasn't developed at all at Town. He's the same head down merchant he was when he joined. He’s still only 20 and realistically only played a handful of matches. It’s a pitty he got injured in pre-season last season as he was due to go on a season long loan in league 1. That would have potentially done him the world of good. He’s not Championship ready as yet unfortunately. He seems to have lost his confidence since DM came in. Would be a real pity to see him leave as I still think he’ll develop into a very very good player. We’ve given a lot of youngsters much more time to develop. It would seem a real shame to lose Bilokapic, Camara and Diarra within 6 months He may develop into a decent player, but at the moment he lacks basic awareness. He can't carry on trying to beat everyone infront of him. Professional football is not the school yard or the playing fields. If he hasn't learnt to get his head up and pass to those in better positions at 20, when is that going to happen? My main concern though is that he hasn't improved at Town. Either the coaching is poor, ot he is not listening. Either way, he's rarely effective for Town because he just runs and looses the ball almost every time he gets it.
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Post by Sparrow on Dec 10, 2023 19:42:34 GMT 1
He’s still only 20 and realistically only played a handful of matches. It’s a pitty he got injured in pre-season last season as he was due to go on a season long loan in league 1. That would have potentially done him the world of good. He’s not Championship ready as yet unfortunately. He seems to have lost his confidence since DM came in. Would be a real pity to see him leave as I still think he’ll develop into a very very good player. We’ve given a lot of youngsters much more time to develop. It would seem a real shame to lose Bilokapic, Camara and Diarra within 6 months He may develop into a decent player, but at the moment he lacks basic awareness. He can't carry on trying to beat everyone I front of him. Professional football is not the school yard or the playing fields. If he hasn't learnt to get his head up and pass to those in better positions at 20, when is that going to happen? My main concern though is that he hasn't improved at Town. Either the coaching is poor, ot he is not listening. Either way, he's rarely effective for Town because he just runs and looses the ball almost every time he gets it. Fair point 👍
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Post by townrwe on Dec 10, 2023 19:48:14 GMT 1
Starting XI today was one of the better ones in the last 2 or 3 years... who was missing? rudoni who was nowhere near last year, even if I liked him and sorba who was on loan. Tu That squad has very little Championship quality. Rudoni and Thomas add more quality, but even with them in the team, it's still comparatively poor. But you keep blaming Moore. It's all his fault, and a new manager would magically get so much more out of our limited players. Moore has no track record of getting more out of the team than his budget... in fact he's performed slightly worse than his budget at all his previous clubs.... that will leave us relegated. Unless we give him a huge chequebook and buy top championship performers that Darren can cheerlead to victory.
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Post by ACW on Dec 10, 2023 19:56:03 GMT 1
He may develop into a decent player, but at the moment he lacks basic awareness. He can't carry on trying to beat everyone I front of him. Professional football is not the school yard or the playing fields. If he hasn't learnt to get his head up and pass to those in better positions at 20, when is that going to happen? My main concern though is that he hasn't improved at Town. Either the coaching is poor, ot he is not listening. Either way, he's rarely effective for Town because he just runs and looses the ball almost every time he gets it. Fair point 👍 It's is a shame he hasn't developed. Unlike many of our players, he has obvious technical ability. It's just wasted at the moment due to his lack of awareness.
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Post by royrace on Dec 10, 2023 20:43:16 GMT 1
It's is a shame he hasn't developed. Unlike many of our players, he has obvious technical ability. It's just wasted at the moment due to his lack of awareness. Looks totally clueless unfortunately and shouldn't be anywhere near the first team. He's not progressed one iota and now looks a lot worse than he did when we first saw him.
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Post by sapphireblue on Dec 10, 2023 21:22:40 GMT 1
That squad has very little Championship quality. Rudoni and Thomas add more quality, but even with them in the team, it's still comparatively poor. But you keep blaming Moore. It's all his fault, and a new manager would magically get so much more out of our limited players. Moore has no track record of getting more out of the team than his budget... in fact he's performed slightly worse than his budget at all his previous clubs.... that will leave us relegated. Unless we give him a huge chequebook and buy top championship performers that Darren can cheerlead to victory. Just because that is your opinion, doesn't make it true.
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Post by townrwe on Dec 10, 2023 21:51:56 GMT 1
Moore has no track record of getting more out of the team than his budget... in fact he's performed slightly worse than his budget at all his previous clubs.... that will leave us relegated. Unless we give him a huge chequebook and buy top championship performers that Darren can cheerlead to victory. Just because that is your opinion, doesn't make it true. Rank his budget compared to other teams relative to the positions he's finished in, Mine is fact, yours is opinion. Consider yourself educated.
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Post by dezzly on Dec 10, 2023 21:59:18 GMT 1
Just because that is your opinion, doesn't make it true. Rank his budget compared to other teams relative to the positions he's finished in, Mine is fact, yours is opinion. Consider yourself educated. Do you have to the stats to hand!? I’m not suggesting your wrong,more I’d just be interested to see them for myself.
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Post by townrwe on Dec 10, 2023 22:06:36 GMT 1
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Post by Detective Boyle on Dec 10, 2023 22:07:21 GMT 1
I personally won't be upset to see him go. Hasn't developed at all at Town. He's the same head down merchant he was when he joined. He’s still only 20 and realistically only played a handful of matches. It’s a pitty he got injured in pre-season last season as he was due to go on a season long loan in league 1. That would have potentially done him the world of good. He’s not Championship ready as yet unfortunately. He seems to have lost his confidence since DM came in. Would be a real pity to see him leave as I still think he’ll develop into a very very good player. We’ve given a lot of youngsters much more time to develop. It would seem a real shame to lose Bilokapic, Camara and Diarra within 6 months On the other side of the token, I would be encouraged if we got rid of Diarra. Hopefully, this signals that the days where we give too much time to players blatantly not good enough (Schofield, High, etc) are coming to an end. If we’ve found someone willing to pay a sizeable fee, get him sold imo.
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Post by runner76 on Dec 10, 2023 22:20:27 GMT 1
Or, get him the best players and we get promoted?…..
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Post by dezzly on Dec 10, 2023 22:34:53 GMT 1
Or, get him the best players and we get promoted?….. There is that.if you can perform around what the budget dictates then if they do back him it should improve.If they do not it simply won’t or at least probably not enough. My personal opinion is that he’s getting a tough ride perception wise right now.However I do think he will have a very limited ceiling. Given better players window on window if that is to be the case I can see a world where coming towards the end of his 3 years(if he makes it that long)the club decide to make a change as he can’t take us any further. I think right now this season with a few of the right ones we stave off relegation. There are many managers out there that can get teams to over perform their capabilities,but it generally isn’t sustainable. Maybe they see him as someone to stabilise and if he does better then it’s a bonus. Still say judge him more mid to late jan though.
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Post by jakeg on Dec 10, 2023 22:35:41 GMT 1
Or, get him the best players and we get promoted?….. I think this is probably the issues here. I'm not getting involved in all this fucking petty immature name calling that seems a specialism on here. I'm happy to keep giving Darren Moore time - he's been unlucky with injuries and the squad is poor and thin. But we can't afford the best players in this league. When we've succeeded in the last few years (Wagner and Coberan) it's very clearly been about making the whole hugely better than the sum.of it's parts. Yes both squads had quality this one is lacking but it achieved more than you would expect man for man. That's what we have to do. Make decent players better and bring the team together. Smith and Kachunga, Toffolo and O'Brien. Now that isn't easy. Not many managers can do that and its hit and miss. Warnock clearly did for the second half of last season but he's had his failures in this career too. I hope Darren can be one of those managers.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Dec 10, 2023 22:44:45 GMT 1
Fuck me, looks even worse on the highlights the handball. Arm not in a natural position as forearm is up, not down. Hands are up with fingers pointing up, ball hit hand. How the chuff has that been missed?? If that is one of the teams at the top like Leicester or Leeds, that's given without hesitation. Right in front of us. Blatant. Ref and linesman down that side also missed a blatant foul on Diarra where Pring cowardly put him into the advertising hoardings. That looked like a crap challenge even from where I was sat. I’m presuming Pring just went for the man and wasn’t interested in the ball?
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Post by townrwe on Dec 10, 2023 22:53:06 GMT 1
Or, get him the best players and we get promoted?….. Yup. If Kev opens the chequebook and provides the best team in the league, we stand a chance of going up. If that's the 3 year plan, then what a ride it will be..... sadly. I think the plan is to do it on a budget, so the first piece of the puzzle is missing.
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Post by runner76 on Dec 10, 2023 22:56:43 GMT 1
Or, get him the best players and we get promoted?….. Yup. If Kev opens the chequebook and provides the best team in the league, we stand a chance of going up. If that's the 3 year plan, then what a ride it will be..... sadly. I think the plan is to do it on a budget, so the first piece of the puzzle is missing. I think he’s going to splash the cash. New owner, new era.
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Post by Terriersmad on Dec 10, 2023 23:36:02 GMT 1
Someone needs to ask the players why they didn’t shove that last minute FK into the mixer? A bit of a daft decision when you consider there’s a bloody scoreboard showing them the added time. At least the Ref let us feck that one up, unlike that Ref the other week who didn’t let us take our one and only corner of the game.Actually, he did. The ref the other week was correct. Only thing you add time for is penalties. We were in the 8th minute of 6 added on by the time we took that free-kick, which we shouldn't have been allowed to as time was up. Doesn't take away from our lack of common sense, but there you have it. Had we pumped it in and by some miracle scored, Bristol City would have been rightly furious. Not to say the officials had a good game. They certainly didn't. Players making rugby knock-ons in the box aside, the bookings given were ludicrous, when you consider what wasn't given. How their number 8 wasn't booked at all for that blatant hold on Kasumu, or the slide, goodness only knows. The inconsistency throughout was utterly infuriating. To say nothing of the assistant referee in stoppage time and his sudden realisation that he had a flag he should have used about an hour ago, when the lad was played in in the first place. Christ. Frustrating yesterday, to say the least. Bright on the counter in the first half, but lacking in the second. Unlucky to not get a penalty (repeat ad nauseum) but then we're not a lucky team. No doubt in my mind it's given in the other box. Moore's hands very much tied by the lack of personnel, so the changes were very much forced by who was available, plus another busy week. Telling that REG got the nod over Edwards when we brought a right-back on. Also telling that the solution was to push Koroma forward when Ward went off, as we just didn't have anyone else. Plus side: Kasumu was very good. Finally looking the player we were promised, with energy and drive. Sensational desire for the goal.
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