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Post by RickDangerous on Dec 12, 2023 16:59:36 GMT 1
I'm struggling to be arsed to go. He's got us harder to beat, but man we are a tough watch. We wont score more than 1 goal, and are very likely to concede at least 1.
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Post by stevvy on Dec 12, 2023 17:04:24 GMT 1
I'm struggling to be arsed to go. He's got us harder to beat, but man we are a tough watch. We wont score more than 1 goal, and are very likely to concede at least 1. In a way that's our biggest problem. We can't keep a clean sheet for love nor money, which means we have to score at least 2 goals every game to have a chance of winning, and we rarely look like scoring at least 2 in most games (and arguably at times we don't look like scoring 1) |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Dec 12, 2023 17:29:49 GMT 1
Think our fans need a reality check. We are a club not supported very well and if you asked every football fan to put clubs in size order we’d probably be in the division below. It’s not that bad right now supporting Town. It’s been much worse than this. I've heard this banded about before and yes it has been much much worse but crowds weren't as big as they are now, the clubs profile was pretty low and we hadn't just been in the PL. You can't compare the Ian Ross and the Mick Wadsworth years to this. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Dec 12, 2023 17:30:34 GMT 1
I'm struggling to be arsed to go. He's got us harder to beat, but man we are a tough watch. We wont score more than 1 goal, and are very likely to concede at least 1. I'd be glad of us grinding out a 1 niller tonight. |
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Post by irverino on Dec 12, 2023 17:32:02 GMT 1
Referee John Busby did 3 of NW's four home wins at the end of last season, a win will put us level on 39 each which includes two FAC finals.....24 draws with seven ending 0-0 the 1st was in 1972, no 8 tonight?
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Post by runner76 on Dec 12, 2023 17:37:40 GMT 1
Think our fans need a reality check. We are a club not supported very well and if you asked every football fan to put clubs in size order we’d probably be in the division below. It’s not that bad right now supporting Town. It’s been much worse than this. Our average attendence is 9th lowest in the league and would be in the top 5 of the league below. So to be fair I don’t think anyone would have any reason to suggest we should be in the division below based on attendance |
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Dec 12, 2023 17:45:30 GMT 1
Season or two late eighties was really dire.
2002’ish was dire.
Powell was dire.
I don’t think it’s a bad as people are making out at the minute if I’m being honest. I just think there’s more people gathering amongst the pessimists.
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Post by incognito on Dec 12, 2023 17:49:39 GMT 1
After their bright start to the season, Preston have actually accumulated fewer points than us over the last 10 games (9 vs our 11).
Our opponents on Saturday have managed the fewest in the league (7) over that same span of games.
Two fixtures we should be targeting points from, but the way this season has panned out so far it wouldn't surprise me if we won neither and then went to Norwich and got an improbable away win (and Wagner the sack).
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Post by andyeastleake on Dec 12, 2023 17:53:02 GMT 1
Think our fans need a reality check. We are a club not supported very well and if you asked every football fan to put clubs in size order we’d probably be in the division below. It’s not that bad right now supporting Town. It’s been much worse than this. Our average attendence is 9th lowest in the league and would be in the top 5 of the league below. So to be fair I don’t think anyone would have any reason to suggest we should be in the division below based on attendance TBF I doubt you've any real idea what our attendance figures are like (or TBF others in the league). The quoted figures represent the Gate (number of people having paid to attend) as stated each match by Tog. I'm not convinced our attendance figures would be as comparatively high as that. With lower than average season ticket prices, it is easier for season ticket holders to "miss" games but still justify a season ticket, as will be very well illustrated tonight. |
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Post by Sparrow on Dec 12, 2023 17:57:39 GMT 1
Is anyone actually going tonight aside from me? Yep me and my 14 year old are going. Wouldn't miss it. He's missing footy training to go and so are most of his team mates. Plus loads of his mates from School are going. Great to see the younger ones still interested in going. Better than some of the miserable buggers on here. Get yourself there. Get yourself a pint or whatever your tipple is and get behind the team. It's not really that cold and the fresh air will be better for you than sat indoors with the heating on. Get yourself down, have a natter and a moan to the people you sit near, maybe a bit of a laugh and a joke at Towns expense, and just enjoy the opportunity to go watch live football. Many are not able to do so....... UP THE FUCKING TOWN!! |
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Post by Flowerdisco on Dec 12, 2023 18:06:05 GMT 1
Is anyone actually going tonight aside from me? Was going to go but now I know you'll be there I'll give it a miss. Obviously only joking, I'll be there. |
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Post by rothwellterrier on Dec 12, 2023 18:12:00 GMT 1
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Post by 28901 on Dec 12, 2023 18:21:16 GMT 1
Think our fans need a reality check. We are a club not supported very well and if you asked every football fan to put clubs in size order we’d probably be in the division below. It’s not that bad right now supporting Town. It’s been much worse than this. I've heard this banded about before and yes it has been much much worse but crowds weren't as big as they are now, the clubs profile was pretty low and we hadn't just been in the PL. You can't compare the Ian Ross and the Mick Wadsworth years to this. If they gave us the real attendance figure I think some people would be very surprised. It has been poor all season and as bad as pre Hoyle league one days on Saturday. Probably even worse tonight, though PNE will probably bring a few more than Bristol City. They'll still say 17-18000 of course. However the real shock will come next season if all those season ticket holders not attending decide not to renew. And if Town are in the division below with a price increase we will be back to late 80s Leeds Road crowds. |
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Post by runner76 on Dec 12, 2023 18:21:59 GMT 1
Our average attendence is 9th lowest in the league and would be in the top 5 of the league below. So to be fair I don’t think anyone would have any reason to suggest we should be in the division below based on attendance TBF I doubt you've any real idea what our attendance figures are like (or TBF others in the league). The quoted figures represent the Gate (number of people having paid to attend) as stated each match by Tog. I'm not convinced our attendance figures would be as comparatively high as that. With lower than average season ticket prices, it is easier for season ticket holders to "miss" games but still justify a season ticket, as will be very well illustrated tonight. well......replace 'attendance' with 'gate' and it is still the same story as it's the same for all the clubs......bottom line is we are a Championship sized club, in the Championship. |
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Post by CurlyWurly on Dec 12, 2023 18:25:07 GMT 1
Not going to be able to see the match becauseof the fog. Thank god.
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Post by Five Lamps on Dec 12, 2023 18:34:17 GMT 1
Can’t wait! I rarely get to midweek games these days, but I’ve had holiday to use up by the end of the year, so I’m here visiting family. There’s something about a night match under the lights that I just love. It gives me a warming sense of nostalgia for the time when I fell in love with football, although strangely it should just remind me of dismal losses to Hartlepool, Crewe et al.
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Post by Cosmo Kramer on Dec 12, 2023 18:41:25 GMT 1
Does anyone know which part of Bradley Mills Road is affected? Is the road fully closed? |
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Post by saintlyterrier on Dec 12, 2023 18:52:25 GMT 1
It's quite amusing to read the main PNE match day thread. They are certainly as dour and pessimistic as Town fans. One cynical writer commented that both teams are in such bad form that they could both lose!
Perhaps DM might recognise the low morale in the Preston camp and surprise everyone by being on the front foot and attacking. Go on, Darren, you know you want to.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2023 19:00:07 GMT 1
Hopefully we'll get a penalty tonight after all the talk about it
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Dec 12, 2023 19:00:11 GMT 1
I've heard this banded about before and yes it has been much much worse but crowds weren't as big as they are now, the clubs profile was pretty low and we hadn't just been in the PL. You can't compare the Ian Ross and the Mick Wadsworth years to this. If they gave us the real attendance figure I think some people would be very surprised. It has been poor all season and as bad as pre Hoyle league one days on Saturday. Probably even worse tonight, though PNE will probably bring a few more than Bristol City. They'll still say 17-18000 of course. However the real shock will come next season if all those season ticket holders not attending decide not to renew. And if Town are in the division below with a price increase we will be back to late 80s Leeds Road crowds. Give over. There were times with 3 and 4 thousand at Leeds Rd. We could lose every game for 2 years and it wouldn’t hit them numbers. |
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Post by andyeastleake on Dec 12, 2023 19:01:58 GMT 1
Think our fans need a reality check. We are a club not supported very well and if you asked every football fan to put clubs in size order we’d probably be in the division below.
It’s not that bad right now supporting Town. It’s been much worse than this. TBH I'm not sure why you think this. You'd have to choose a fairly narrow length of measurement for our average league position to be outside the Top 44 and even narrower for Attendance/Gate. You'd have to include the late 70s but not much further back (or we'd climb again). Given the Premier League years, recent play off final & our historical record, I think most fans would put us in the Top 44 clubs (just). Last 40 seasons average league rank 43 Average Attendance/Gate rank 39. Last 10 seasons average league rank 31 Average Attendance/Gate rank 34. source link |
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Post by andyeastleake on Dec 12, 2023 19:05:21 GMT 1
It's quite amusing to read the main PNE match day thread. They are certainly as dour and pessimistic as Town fans. One cynical writer commented that both teams are in such bad form that they could both lose! Perhaps DM might recognise the low morale in the Preston camp and surprise everyone by being on the front foot and attacking. Go on, Darren, you know you want to. He might, but I wouldn't be putting money on it. |
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Post by Sio on Dec 12, 2023 19:07:16 GMT 1
Think our fans need a reality check. We are a club not supported very well and if you asked every football fan to put clubs in size order we’d probably be in the division below. It’s not that bad right now supporting Town. It’s been much worse than this. Come off it. It's an accumulation isn't it. Our fans have been incredibly patient with this club for the past 5 years through countless mistakes, poor decisions, and poor leadership. And through all that, we've been pretty well supported. To suggest that 'we are not very well supported' now that the support is finally dipping - as people are reaching the end of their tether with the current dull football and the dull fella on the touchline - is nonsense. In fact it's borderline insulting to suggest that our fanbase requires a reality check after the way our club has been run. |
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Post by specialun on Dec 12, 2023 19:10:21 GMT 1
It’s not pretty, it’s dull tbh - some of that is hands tied with squad & injuries to forward players, not all of it though and will have to improve being able to adapt in game when more subs / options available
However it’s been FAR worse than this Christ!
This is a very winnable game against a side struggling, falling away
If we do it’ll be 9 points from 5, 1 defeat in 7? Is that right? As dull as it has been that’d be a good return
Cue a boring loss, 1 win in 7 etc!
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Post by turbo2 on Dec 12, 2023 19:14:14 GMT 1
Hopefully we'll get a penalty tonight after all the talk about it After Saturdays catch we’ve bloody no chance of getting a penalty |
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Post by crux on Dec 12, 2023 19:25:49 GMT 1
Hopefully we'll get a penalty tonight after all the talk about it After Saturdays catch we’ve bloody no chance of getting a penalty ... and the punch on the ball in the previous match. Hopefully an opposition defender will just catch the ball and throw it to the ref 🤞 |
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Post by crux on Dec 12, 2023 19:32:04 GMT 1
Planning to, but currently outside Spa Medica Eye clinic near Wakefield, so it depends on how I go on. If I can't see very well afterwards, I'm definitely going to watch it as it may look better 😉 (although someone else had better drive me down there 🤣).  Unfortunately my eyesight has recovered from the eye-drops and my vision will be as 'bad' as it was on Saturday. Hopefully the match will be better 🙏. PS: they can't book my laser treatment to correct my cloudy right eye after cataract surgery 2 years ago, until my optician resends the referral letter and tells them it's my right eye and not the left one they put in the first one 🤬 |
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Post by uw2ba on Dec 12, 2023 19:51:19 GMT 1
Looking forward to seeing austerfield play tonight. Also excited to see koroma, Thomas ward and burgzorg all on the pitch at the same time
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Post by Galpharmer on Dec 12, 2023 19:53:55 GMT 1
Holmes 9/2 to score anytime. You know it’s going to happen.
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Post by boooothy on Dec 12, 2023 19:55:45 GMT 1
Think our fans need a reality check. We are a club not supported very well and if you asked every football fan to put clubs in size order we’d probably be in the division below. It’s not that bad right now supporting Town. It’s been much worse than this. Come off it. It's an accumulation isn't it. Our fans have been incredibly patient with this club for the past 5 years through countless mistakes, poor decisions, and poor leadership. And through all that, we've been pretty well supported. To suggest that 'we are not very well supported' now that the support is finally dipping - as people are reaching the end of their tether with the current dull football and the dull fella on the touchline - is nonsense. In fact it's borderline insulting to suggest that our fanbase requires a reality check after the way our club has been run. We have literally 100s of our season ticket can’t be arsed with a home game cause it’s raining, we can’t sell out play off games and i might be mistaken but i think we are lowest on away attendances this season. I know the reasons why apathy sets in but it wouldn’t happen, regardless how shit at well supported clubs, Sunderland, dare i say Bradford and things aren’t that bad. This league position must be above our average league position in my time supporting them. |
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