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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on Dec 14, 2023 17:33:42 GMT 1
Katherine Hannah and Steve Chicken were both great. But I can only imagine they were bemused by his responses. I must admit that was a load of complete and utter waffle. Him trying to turn such a negative into a positive smacks of desperation. Unless Ruffels comes back an amalgamation of Harry Toffolo and David Loewe Chris Löwe and Rudoni has shaved his head and become Aaron Mooy, there is nobody on that treatment table that will improve this team under his current tactics. It's not the players it's the tactics.
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Post by Big Ern on Dec 14, 2023 17:35:27 GMT 1
I must admit that was a load of complete and utter waffle. Him trying to turn such a negative into a positive smacks of desperation. Unless Ruffels comes back an amalgamation of Harry Toffolo and David Loewe Chris Löwe and Rudoni has shaved his head and become Aaron Mooy, there is nobody on that treatment table that will improve this team under his current tactics. It's not the players it's the tactics. Oops! I really couldn't remember his first name but I remember him being good though! 🤣
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Post by Tiro on Dec 14, 2023 17:43:47 GMT 1
What do you want him to say in front of his employer when he's under pressure? Something believable. "I share his concerns" "I understand where he's coming from". Not "It's a positive". Because that's utter bullshit. He doesn't say that though, does he: DM: " in terms of my reaction is always a positive one. And a positive one in a sense Catherine that we're all trying here to get things right at the football club, we're all underrating that there has been lot of change at the football club in terms of what's happened over the last two, three four months. But we're extremely together. We're showing a unity, a togetherness and that's coming straight from the chairman which I've eluded to. We speak every single week,. He's coming over here in January, which is great, and he continues to work on the short-term... we speak very, very regularly and open". He then goes on to discuss how they were both disappointed after Tuesday night; getting results, being competitive. When pressed whether he knew the statement was going to be made public, he then goes on to say that; " again, it's a positive not a negative, because it shows that the owner of the football club is a passionate as anybody else. And that statement has come from the very top, so again it shows that if people think there's isn't a care in the world about Huddersfield Town, then there is your statement... I would stress that there is a unified message throughout the football club". He is then asked his thoughts on being called out about the quality of play and asked how he reflects on that: he responds, in admittedly inarticulate way, of saying " that would be unprofessional" of him to react and publicly say what they're doing and how they're responding internally. He then goes on to say that he " accepts" the criticism that the brand of football is " boring". So, in summary, he actually says: - that he wont react negatively. His attitude is to respond to negativity in a positive manner. - he see's KN's comments as a positive for the football club as a whole and it's fans. - he agrees with KN and KH, that what were producing is shit. If you're gonna call him out for being 'thick as mince' and start a conversation on the matter, at least make sure you quote him properly and put it in context. But then again, that doesn't suit the mood, does it.
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Post by Tiro on Dec 14, 2023 17:46:32 GMT 1
Something believable. "I share his concerns" "I understand where he's coming from". Not "It's a positive". Because that's utter bullshit. I thought Katherine Hannah asked some challenging questions today and what I really wanted to hear from him was: KH- The chairman released a statement concerning the lack of entertainment on the pitch, what do you have to say to that? DM- I fully agree with his statement because we were shit, I was shit and his comments were well deserved. He did though. It wasn't as black and white as you put it, but he did agree with the above. " do you accept [the critsim that your football] is boring*" " yes, I accept that" *KH aint gonna use the terms shit or terrible etc. See my post above for more context and a wider response on the matter.
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Post by Big Ern on Dec 14, 2023 18:03:29 GMT 1
Something believable. "I share his concerns" "I understand where he's coming from". Not "It's a positive". Because that's utter bullshit. He doesn't say that though, does he: DM: " in terms of my reaction is always a positive one. And a positive one in a sense Catherine that we're all trying here to get things right at the football club, we're all underrating that there has been lot of change at the football club in terms of what's happened over the last two, three four months. But we're extremely together. We're showing a unity, a togetherness and that's coming straight from the chairman which I've eluded to. We speak every single week,. He's coming over here in January, which is great, and he continues to work on the short-term... we speak very, very regularly and open". He then goes on to discuss how they were both disappointed after Tuesday night; getting results, being competitive. When pressed whether he knew the statement was going to be made public, he then goes on to say that; " again, it's a positive not a negative, because it shows that the owner of the football club is a passionate as anybody else. And that statement has come from the very top, so again it shows that if people think there's isn't a care in the world about Huddersfield Town, then there is your statement... I would stress that there is a unified message throughout the football club". He is then asked his thoughts on being called out about the quality of play and asked how he reflects on that: he responds, in admittedly inarticulate way, of saying " that would be unprofessional" of him to react and publicly say what they're doing and how they're responding internally. He then goes on to say that he " accepts" the criticism that the brand of football is " boring". So, in summary, he actually says: - that he wont react negatively. His attitude is to respond to negativity in a positive manner. - he see's KN's comments as a positive for the football club as a whole and it's fans. - he agrees with KN and the KH, that what were producing is shit. If you're gonna call him out for being 'thick as mince' and start a conversation on the matter, at least make sure you quote him properly and put it in context. But then again, that doesn't suit the mood, does it. It's not positive though, it's not positive at all. Let's see how we set up Saturday to see if any lessons have been learned.
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Post by bluesandtwos on Dec 14, 2023 18:16:04 GMT 1
Who are all these players on the treatment table that he's waffing on about,I can only think of Rudoni that would make much difference,and we're shit when he plays too. Harratt, Hudlin…… you know, game changers. Oh, you mean strikers? Players who are on the field to score goals? Yea, why would that be an issue, we've got almost fit Danny Ward, that should be enough surely, although Harratt has scored twice as many goals this season. We have Del who has clocked up 4 goals, which in this squad isn't shabby. However, we have no creative midfielder. Rudoni is the only one we have got that makes things happen. I am still hoping Wiles comes good but that is not a given at the moment. Remember the two goals we scored early against QPR? Rudoni setup Harratt for the first then finished Sorba's cross for the second. The best I have seen since then is Kasumu setting up Del against Bristol. I know this is not a new problem but we are really short of players who can create chances and that is not down to DM.
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Post by bluesandtwos on Dec 14, 2023 18:17:45 GMT 1
He doesn't say that though, does he: DM: " in terms of my reaction is always a positive one. And a positive one in a sense Catherine that we're all trying here to get things right at the football club, we're all underrating that there has been lot of change at the football club in terms of what's happened over the last two, three four months. But we're extremely together. We're showing a unity, a togetherness and that's coming straight from the chairman which I've eluded to. We speak every single week,. He's coming over here in January, which is great, and he continues to work on the short-term... we speak very, very regularly and open". He then goes on to discuss how they were both disappointed after Tuesday night; getting results, being competitive. When pressed whether he knew the statement was going to be made public, he then goes on to say that; " again, it's a positive not a negative, because it shows that the owner of the football club is a passionate as anybody else. And that statement has come from the very top, so again it shows that if people think there's isn't a care in the world about Huddersfield Town, then there is your statement... I would stress that there is a unified message throughout the football club". He is then asked his thoughts on being called out about the quality of play and asked how he reflects on that: he responds, in admittedly inarticulate way, of saying " that would be unprofessional" of him to react and publicly say what they're doing and how they're responding internally. He then goes on to say that he " accepts" the criticism that the brand of football is " boring". So, in summary, he actually says: - that he wont react negatively. His attitude is to respond to negativity in a positive manner. - he see's KN's comments as a positive for the football club as a whole and it's fans. - he agrees with KN and the KH, that what were producing is shit. If you're gonna call him out for being 'thick as mince' and start a conversation on the matter, at least make sure you quote him properly and put it in context. But then again, that doesn't suit the mood, does it. It's not positive though, it's not positive at all. Let's see how we set up Saturday to see if any lessons have been learned. The one positive is the away fans on Saturday will make more noise than the home fans did on Tuesday. I think we can win that one.
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Post by CurlyWurly on Dec 14, 2023 18:23:35 GMT 1
I don't know about anyone else, but it's pretty depressing finishing work and seeing Will Still and Nuno Espirito Santo favorites for clubs 2 and 12 points ahead of us.
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Post by duncfost01 on Dec 14, 2023 18:51:10 GMT 1
I just don’t think he is tactically good enough. Why were we so deep again. Why are players playing out of position ? Hogg needs to play in front of the back four.
He will be gone by the end of Jan. Once he loses the players as well it’s only a matter of time.
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Post by Essex Terrier on Dec 14, 2023 19:00:08 GMT 1
I just don’t think he is tactically good enough. Why were we so deep again. Why are players playing out of position ? Hogg needs to play in front of the back four. He will be gone by the end of Jan. Once he loses the players as well it’s only a matter of time. Moore, not Hoggy?
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Post by duncfost01 on Dec 14, 2023 19:15:03 GMT 1
I just don’t think he is tactically good enough. Why were we so deep again. Why are players playing out of position ? Hogg needs to play in front of the back four. He will be gone by the end of Jan. Once he loses the players as well it’s only a matter of time. Moore, not Hoggy? Moore. Hogg can’t play in the role that Moore has him in - especially 3 games a week. Hogg in front of the back four would probably have stopped the second goal. Instead he didn’t have the legs to get back.
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Post by Tiro on Dec 14, 2023 19:15:56 GMT 1
He doesn't say that though, does he: DM: " in terms of my reaction is always a positive one. And a positive one in a sense Catherine that we're all trying here to get things right at the football club, we're all underrating that there has been lot of change at the football club in terms of what's happened over the last two, three four months. But we're extremely together. We're showing a unity, a togetherness and that's coming straight from the chairman which I've eluded to. We speak every single week,. He's coming over here in January, which is great, and he continues to work on the short-term... we speak very, very regularly and open". He then goes on to discuss how they were both disappointed after Tuesday night; getting results, being competitive. When pressed whether he knew the statement was going to be made public, he then goes on to say that; " again, it's a positive not a negative, because it shows that the owner of the football club is a passionate as anybody else. And that statement has come from the very top, so again it shows that if people think there's isn't a care in the world about Huddersfield Town, then there is your statement... I would stress that there is a unified message throughout the football club". He is then asked his thoughts on being called out about the quality of play and asked how he reflects on that: he responds, in admittedly inarticulate way, of saying " that would be unprofessional" of him to react and publicly say what they're doing and how they're responding internally. He then goes on to say that he " accepts" the criticism that the brand of football is " boring". So, in summary, he actually says: - that he wont react negatively. His attitude is to respond to negativity in a positive manner. - he see's KN's comments as a positive for the football club as a whole and it's fans. - he agrees with KN and the KH, that what were producing is shit. If you're gonna call him out for being 'thick as mince' and start a conversation on the matter, at least make sure you quote him properly and put it in context. But then again, that doesn't suit the mood, does it. It's not positive though, it's not positive at all. Let's see how we set up Saturday to see if any lessons have been learned. That's a matter of opinion. I think KN's response in acknowledging things are not going well, and at a time when he did, is a positive one. And in the true context of what DM actually said, as I've explained to you, DM agrees it is not good enough. KN can't win; he's doomed whether he says something or not. And whatever he says will be chastised. We're a fickle bunch of bastards. - Deano was slammed by the populous for speaking too much. Then for not speaking at all. - Phill was slammed by the populous for talking too much. Then for not speaking at all. - KN is slammed by the populous for speaking on twitter, in interviews, in docuseries, in Marston's.... And then slammed for not responding when we want him to or when things are shit. And then for what he says when he does respond when things are shit. Ironic it is always the vocal minority that complain most veraciously about communication.
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Post by King Neil on Dec 14, 2023 19:22:04 GMT 1
DM must have a lot of accounts on here...14 at least😆
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Dec 14, 2023 19:24:22 GMT 1
I thought Katherine Hannah asked some challenging questions today and what I really wanted to hear from him was: KH- The chairman released a statement concerning the lack of entertainment on the pitch, what do you have to say to that? DM- I fully agree with his statement because we were shit, I was shit and his comments were well deserved. He did though. It wasn't as black and white as you put it, but he did agree with the above. " do you accept [the critsim that your football] is boring*" " yes, I accept that" *KH aint gonna use the terms shit or terrible etc. See my post above for more context and a wider response on the matter. Just seen that clip. It was about as blunt a question as you can ask. I actually wanted to see him get angry, it would have given me more hope but he just seems very calm, which suggests (maybe wrongly) that he’s not that arsed. If you’d have asked most managers that they’d have had a right pop back.
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Post by Tiro on Dec 14, 2023 19:26:17 GMT 1
DM must have a lot of accounts on here...14 at least😆 Why, because some people prefer to state fact rather than peddle their own brand of busllshit whilst criticsing others for talking bullshit? It's not pro or anti anything to expect clarity and accuracy as a minimum.
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Post by Tiro on Dec 14, 2023 19:29:50 GMT 1
He did though. It wasn't as black and white as you put it, but he did agree with the above. " do you accept [the critsim that your football] is boring*" " yes, I accept that" *KH aint gonna use the terms shit or terrible etc. See my post above for more context and a wider response on the matter. Just seen that clip. It was about as blunt a question as you can ask. I actually wanted to see him get angry, it would have given me more hope but he just seems very calm, which suggests (maybe wrongly) that he’s not that arsed. If you’d have asked most managers that they’d have had a right pop back. He tells you why; " it's not professional" or the place to speak out of turn. That's for behind the scenes. He's not gonna risk a public backlash, put his own job into disrepute or create yet another, bigger, shit-storm publicly (when clearly we need unity and stability right now) just because some Town fans see anger as passion. That's fucking stupid. But yet some accuse him of being 'thick as mince' for being diplomatic. In a live press conference. And let's be honest, if he had have done, that would have pissed some fans off too. In fact, I'd have thought that was the wrong reaction. Right now the club has to deicide on which shit decision/action is better than another. Its the path of least resistance. Surely the point is he agrees with us the football is shit?
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Post by Big Ern on Dec 14, 2023 19:33:19 GMT 1
It's not positive though, it's not positive at all. Let's see how we set up Saturday to see if any lessons have been learned. That's a matter of opinion. I think KN's response in acknowledging things are not going well, and at a time when he did, is a positive one. And in the true context of what DM actually said, as I've explained to you, DM agrees it is not good enough. KN can't win; he's doomed whether he says something or not. And whatever he says will be chastised. We're a fickle bunch of bastards. - Deano was slammed by the populous for speaking too much. Then for not speaking at all. - Phill was slammed by the populous for talking too much. Then for not speaking at all. - KN is slammed by the populous for speaking on twitter, in interviews, in docuseries, in Marston's.... And then slammed for not responding when we want him to or when things are shit. And then for what he says when he does respond when things are shit. Ironic it is always the vocal minority that complain most veraciously about communication. Not sure how you have just made this about Nagle when we are talking about Moore. I have actually been quite vocal in my support of KN
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Post by Blueblood on Dec 14, 2023 19:33:56 GMT 1
Quite simply he must go.
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Post by Tiro on Dec 14, 2023 19:41:07 GMT 1
That's a matter of opinion. I think KN's response in acknowledging things are not going well, and at a time when he did, is a positive one. And in the true context of what DM actually said, as I've explained to you, DM agrees it is not good enough. KN can't win; he's doomed whether he says something or not. And whatever he says will be chastised. We're a fickle bunch of bastards. - Deano was slammed by the populous for speaking too much. Then for not speaking at all. - Phill was slammed by the populous for talking too much. Then for not speaking at all. - KN is slammed by the populous for speaking on twitter, in interviews, in docuseries, in Marston's.... And then slammed for not responding when we want him to or when things are shit. And then for what he says when he does respond when things are shit. Ironic it is always the vocal minority that complain most veraciously about communication. Not sure how you have just made this about Nagle when we are talking about Moore. I have actually been quite vocal in my support of KN Read back my posts/responses from the start. Listen to the interview in full. Your first and primary point was/is around what Moore was said to have stated was positive. I have set out why your point was invalidated because it was formed on the back of a BS post. And explained that he what he refereed to as 'positive' was KN's statement why that was positive - hence the discussion on KN. He didn't say the football or anything other was positive. To which you replied it 'wasn't positive'. It's not that hard if you're willing to listen to other points of view.
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Post by runner76 on Dec 14, 2023 19:41:52 GMT 1
About 95% don’t thinks he’s the man for the job.
That’s staggeringly negative…..be interesting to see, at the end of the season, if that’s a lot of humble pie being eaten…..(including me…!)
Or, if in the next 6 weeks it’s what the club also think…..
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Post by waggers on Dec 14, 2023 19:44:18 GMT 1
I'd genuinely like to hear from those that voted yes. Not in an argumentative manner I'm just interested in their thinking. I haven't voted, but I think the answer may lie in manner in which the poll is proposed. For instance, I think there is some very valid ground somewhere in the middle; having taken my time, I am not best pleased with the results or the manner of them, but I don't don't think getting rid of DM right now is a smart move in all honesty. That doesn't mean I think he's the right man either, I just think he's the better option for the predicament we find ourselves in at this moment. Whether people want to hear it / believe it or not, our hand was forced on the Warnock issue because he told them he was flagging. It also came not long after there were concerns from both sides about how the last window was conducted, because Warnock wanted total control but the reality is his reputation in the modern game and the fact that we was known to be a temporary appointment, turned clubs sand players away. He thought he was untouchable and they called his bluff, opting for more stability earlier than anticipated because he was distancing himself yet keeping control. What Warnock did last season was superb, no doubt. But let's not gloss over the cracks of his tenure this season. I know much of this for a fact by the way, given who told me. On balance of what I know, I think it was the right call. I don't think Warnock should have stayed beyond last season and I think both parties agree on that in hindsight. As it happens, the decision on Moore hasn't paid off. Moore's appointment was partly because of who was available and partly because of the financial constraints would mean we would limit our options in the Jan window further which is a priority; it was a balancing act. That doesn't mean we took the cheap option, but we calculated an option and some we win, some we loose. Like all clubs. On the basis of what I know, I don't think sacking Moore pre-Jan is for the best of the dressing room, the transfer window or the club as a whole right now. You might be right regarding going for a cheaper manager so we had more to spend in January, if true I don't think that was a wise decision but there is an argument for it. I haven't heard Warnock was flagging but again if true adds a bit more context to the risky move.
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Post by durhamterrier on Dec 14, 2023 19:52:19 GMT 1
About 95% don’t thinks he’s the man for the job. That’s staggeringly negative…..be interesting to see, at the end of the season, if that’s a lot of humble pie being eaten…..(including me…!) Or, if in the next 6 weeks it’s what the club also think….. I’d love to be eating humble pie and he turns into a world beater after a good January transfer window … but I’m sure I won’t be
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Post by specialun on Dec 14, 2023 20:02:00 GMT 1
To be fair to him no matter what Moore says at this stage he’s on a hiding to nothing, not sure what he could say which would please us
Ultimately he now needs to deliver on the pitch results or even if not results a pattern which looks like we’ve met each other before and the fans can see what we’re trying to do so we’d have faith with better players he could get a tune
14 games, 2 international breaks and first choice 4 attacking options all available - excuses over. Deliver or bust.
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Dec 14, 2023 20:14:11 GMT 1
Just seen that clip. It was about as blunt a question as you can ask. I actually wanted to see him get angry, it would have given me more hope but he just seems very calm, which suggests (maybe wrongly) that he’s not that arsed. If you’d have asked most managers that they’d have had a right pop back. He tells you why; " it's not professional" or the place to speak out of turn. That's for behind the scenes. He's not gonna risk a public backlash, put his own job into disrepute or create yet another, bigger, shit-storm publicly (when clearly we need unity and stability right now) just because some Town fans see anger as passion. That's fucking stupid. But yet some accuse him of being 'thick as mince' for being diplomatic. In a live press conference. And let's be honest, if he had have done, that would have pissed some fans off too. In fact, I'd have thought that was the wrong reaction. Right now the club has to deicide on which shit decision/action is better than another. Its the path of least resistance. Surely the point is he agrees with us the football is shit? Maybe, but he’s given no indication that it will change. He’s lost most of the fanbase already, being professional isn’t going to help him. He needs to show a bit of emotion. But anyway what he does in a presser is immaterial if he wins on Sat.
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Post by dugnet on Dec 14, 2023 20:14:19 GMT 1
I just listened to the presser (20 minutes of my life I'm not getting back) and my one take was his referral to the impact of injuries. I can’t think we have 7 or 8 (his words) that would make a difference (2 or 3 maybe).
The fact is the tactics on Tuesday were appalling. It was obvious in the 1st minute that we had it wrong. That can’t be just poor execution and the impact of injuries.
The inability to pass and move is woeful, surely we have enough to at least attempt the simplest of tactics? That said to set up with essentially 3 defensive midfield players and to be unable to disrupt PNE was as alarming as it was disappointing.
At the end of the day we need to see better on the pitch. For all the reasonable mitigations it has to be better than we saw on Saturday and in most of the 14 games DM has been in charge. Poor performances and results can only be excused so much. We know what we are seeing and we know it simply isn't good enough.
We are in a game to game assessment now. DM has his destiny in his hands now, it's purely down to what he delivers.
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Post by richhtfc on Dec 14, 2023 20:16:41 GMT 1
I'd genuinely like to hear from those that voted yes. Not in an argumentative manner I'm just interested in their thinking. I haven't voted, but I think the answer may lie in manner in which the poll is proposed. For instance, I think there is some very valid ground somewhere in the middle; having taken my time, I am not best pleased with the results or the manner of them, but I don't don't think getting rid of DM right now is a smart move in all honesty. That doesn't mean I think he's the right man either, I just think he's the better option for the predicament we find ourselves in at this moment. Whether people want to hear it / believe it or not, our hand was forced on the Warnock issue because he told them he was flagging. It also came not long after there were concerns from both sides about how the last window was conducted, because Warnock wanted total control but the reality is his reputation in the modern game and the fact that we was known to be a temporary appointment, turned clubs sand players away. He thought he was untouchable and they called his bluff, opting for more stability earlier than anticipated because he was distancing himself yet keeping control. What Warnock did last season was superb, no doubt. But let's not gloss over the cracks of his tenure this season. I know much of this for a fact by the way, given who told me. On balance of what I know, I think it was the right call. I don't think Warnock should have stayed beyond last season and I think both parties agree on that in hindsight. As it happens, the decision on Moore hasn't paid off. Moore's appointment was partly because of who was available and partly because of the financial constraints would mean we would limit our options in the Jan window further which is a priority; it was a balancing act. That doesn't mean we took the cheap option, but we calculated an option and some we win, some we loose. Like all clubs. On the basis of what I know, I don't think sacking Moore pre-Jan is for the best of the dressing room, the transfer window or the club as a whole right now. Great post, which kind of mirrors my thoughts and makes a lot of sense. What I am now worried about though is his ability to motivate the group, because up to Tuesday I thought in the main they looked like the majority were trying for him. I’m worried now after the abject performance that the negative attitude of the fans is affecting the players and they are starting to lose belief in his methods, hide and blame each other. That can’t be allowed to continue so let’s see what’s done about it.
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Post by htfcterry on Dec 14, 2023 20:20:17 GMT 1
Just listened to that presser.
Hes gone on about how Millwall are tough to beat at home. They’ve won 2 in their last 15 home games losing 10 in the process.
Then again, every game is going to be tough for us.
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Post by goodbet on Dec 14, 2023 20:30:03 GMT 1
I haven't voted, but I think the answer may lie in manner in which the poll is proposed. For instance, I think there is some very valid ground somewhere in the middle; having taken my time, I am not best pleased with the results or the manner of them, but I don't don't think getting rid of DM right now is a smart move in all honesty. That doesn't mean I think he's the right man either, I just think he's the better option for the predicament we find ourselves in at this moment. Whether people want to hear it / believe it or not, our hand was forced on the Warnock issue because he told them he was flagging. It also came not long after there were concerns from both sides about how the last window was conducted, because Warnock wanted total control but the reality is his reputation in the modern game and the fact that we was known to be a temporary appointment, turned clubs sand players away. He thought he was untouchable and they called his bluff, opting for more stability earlier than anticipated because he was distancing himself yet keeping control. What Warnock did last season was superb, no doubt. But let's not gloss over the cracks of his tenure this season. I know much of this for a fact by the way, given who told me. On balance of what I know, I think it was the right call. I don't think Warnock should have stayed beyond last season and I think both parties agree on that in hindsight. As it happens, the decision on Moore hasn't paid off. Moore's appointment was partly because of who was available and partly because of the financial constraints would mean we would limit our options in the Jan window further which is a priority; it was a balancing act. That doesn't mean we took the cheap option, but we calculated an option and some we win, some we loose. Like all clubs. On the basis of what I know, I don't think sacking Moore pre-Jan is for the best of the dressing room, the transfer window or the club as a whole right now. You might be right regarding going for a cheaper manager so we had more to spend in January, if true I don't think that was a wise decision but there is an argument for it. I haven't heard Warnock was flagging but again if true adds a bit more context to the risky move. I would not take all the rumours that are being spread by Cartwright and co to justify the summer window and the removal of Warnock as true. Strange isen't it true that it is always the person no longer around that gets the blaim for everything.
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Post by 2ellandback on Dec 14, 2023 20:43:09 GMT 1
Wow, DM doesn’t half waffle in the presser. It’s a hard listen. My favourite bit is, at about 8 minutes in, when he mumbles “eluded to” and the caption at the bottom of screen is “Looney Tunes”.
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Post by Up the Duff. on Dec 14, 2023 21:13:15 GMT 1
It is so tricky this one, I really believe what kennyk2 is saying and that DM will be given until middle to late February to have chance to have a squad he is happier with and this is 100% what i have been told. I do wonder if this plan might change however especially with such odd team selections and performances, the fans could have a big say in this and the new ownership / management team may start to feel the pressure to make a change sooner. I am sure discussions with KN, MC & JE have taken place regarding the future of DM and if the continue to back Darren in January or move on sooner. For sure they are all aware of the current feeling around the club and they can also see the performances on the pitch, Mr Nagle comes accross as someone very loyal and someone that would try his best to make it work with the current manager I am just not sure even Kevin can keep wathcing the performances like last night and not act. Do I want the club to get rid now, after last night I really do I think we have found a nice guy and someone who interviewed well but unfotuanlty seems a little clueless when it comes to match days, time to move on and try and reinvigorate our season. Do I think the above will happen, yesterday I would have said 100% not at this time, today I am thinking its still 75% chance that DM will still be here come end of January but I now have some doubt in my mind and I believe we will already be sounding out possible replacements in the background as it is really looking like this is not working out. Getting the full fan base to be behind the clubs choices is something that KN can still acieve with some brave moves, but the longer this goes on then the more difficult it will be to get this support back, I think we need to act fast, admit it hasnt worked out and be strong enough to make the call in the next 48hours IMHO. It's quite simple, if we lose the next 4 he is gone no question.
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