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Post by aideybabes on Dec 14, 2023 21:35:27 GMT 1
Absolutely not, said from day one he’s not the man for us and after a few games came to realise he’s clueless.
He can go now for me, that said I would have never of given him the job in the first place.
He makes Buzz lightyear look like a master tactician with total ease.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Dec 14, 2023 21:47:29 GMT 1
i said this when he was appointed, when the club made the statment of "we want to be either in or challenging for the prem in 3 years" then we appointed Moore, it was like , who thought this is a good choice? normally clubs when they make this sort of statment, bring in a manager who gets people talking or shows a real sign of intent. Did the choice of Moore do either of this ? An example of what i mean is Birmingham appointed Rooney , to get people talking about them and maybe attract players just down to the name value, Ipswich when they were in league 1 , spent some cash, but then went an appointed a highly regarded coach and young prospect of a coach in Mckenna.
If we had gone got a manager, who had been there seen it done it in this league , of which there are plenty free right now or gone and paid the money to get Plymouths manager . Then you could see both angles i have explained above in the Town thinking.
Moore is not well known for his tactical acumen , more known for his man mangment skills. Yet to date , i have seen many a preformance, where the team look distinctly lacking in motivation- therefore what he is known for seems lacking.
As fans have seen by games played, his tatical side of the game is basic at best , it seems therefore the above point has to be on point, which as i stated it does not seem that way at all.
Therefore as i thought at the time and still do now, this appointment was not and is not going to work out.
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Post by space hardware on Dec 14, 2023 22:20:57 GMT 1
Something believable. "I share his concerns" "I understand where he's coming from". Not "It's a positive". Because that's utter bullshit. He doesn't say that though, does he: DM: " in terms of my reaction is always a positive one. And a positive one in a sense Catherine that we're all trying here to get things right at the football club, we're all underrating that there has been lot of change at the football club in terms of what's happened over the last two, three four months. But we're extremely together. We're showing a unity, a togetherness and that's coming straight from the chairman which I've eluded to. We speak every single week,. He's coming over here in January, which is great, and he continues to work on the short-term... we speak very, very regularly and open". He then goes on to discuss how they were both disappointed after Tuesday night; getting results, being competitive. When pressed whether he knew the statement was going to be made public, he then goes on to say that; " again, it's a positive not a negative, because it shows that the owner of the football club is a passionate as anybody else. And that statement has come from the very top, so again it shows that if people think there's isn't a care in the world about Huddersfield Town, then there is your statement... I would stress that there is a unified message throughout the football club". He is then asked his thoughts on being called out about the quality of play and asked how he reflects on that: he responds, in admittedly inarticulate way, of saying " that would be unprofessional" of him to react and publicly say what they're doing and how they're responding internally. He then goes on to say that he " accepts" the criticism that the brand of football is " boring". So, in summary, he actually says: - that he wont react negatively. His attitude is to respond to negativity in a positive manner. - he see's KN's comments as a positive for the football club as a whole and it's fans. - he agrees with KN and KH, that what were producing is shit. If you're gonna call him out for being 'thick as mince' and start a conversation on the matter, at least make sure you quote him properly and put it in context. But then again, that doesn't suit the mood, does it. It's a lot of words to say fuck all, let's be honest here.
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Post by Tinpot on Dec 15, 2023 8:20:54 GMT 1
I voted no, but if there were a few more options I might have given a better assessment of where I'm at.
"No" could be taken to mean I want him to be sacked today. That would be inaccurate but my vote is lumped in with that because it has nowhere else to go.
I just mean that I think he's more likely to fail here than succeed. But there are issues with sacking him now.
Reasons to sack him? * Game management is terrible. * Performances are - with a few exceptions here and there - terrible. * Attendances are down * It's difficult to point to what he's trying to do. If I could understand that, it might help, but it's not a continuation of Warnock-ball, nor is it any kind of style of his own that I can recognise. * If Moore is not the guy, then someone else needs this upcoming window and at least a little time to assess the squad.
Reasons not to? * He has had neither a transfer window, nor a preseason to get his ideas across. Things may improve markedly when he does. * Who takes over? Specifically, who would take on the job knowing - or believing - that our track record is not one of giving people time to get their ideas across and expecting miracles with the league's thinnest squad, and one that's painfully unbalanced. At some stage, you've got to stick with a manager through a tough patch. If not now, when? * Let's be honest here. Our problems are not simply swept away by ditching Darren Moore. * What did Cartwright see in him to view him as such a dream appointment in the first place? If he was right, then giving DM more time should soon yield results. If he's wrong, then what gives us confidence that he will get the next one right?
I'm on the fence. I have little faith in Darren Moore despite the hand he's been dealt, but at the same time there are issues with sacking him too.
The only positive I can see in all of this is that Mr Nagle was willing to come here in Lg1. Because it looks for all the world like that's where we'll be kicking off next season.
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Post by ChelmsfordTerrier on Dec 15, 2023 8:30:44 GMT 1
I voted no, but if there were a few more options I might have given a better assessment of where I'm at. "No" could be taken to mean I want him to be sacked today. That would be inaccurate but my vote is lumped in with that because it has nowhere else to go. I just mean that I think he's more likely to fail here than succeed. But there are issues with sacking him now. Reasons to sack him? * Game management is terrible. * Performances are - with a few exceptions here and there - terrible. * Attendances are down * It's difficult to point to what he's trying to do. If I could understand that, it might help, but it's not a continuation of Warnock-ball, nor is it any kind of style of his own that I can recognise. * If Moore is not the guy, then someone else needs this upcoming window and at least a little time to assess the squad. Reasons not to? * He has had neither a transfer window, nor a preseason to get his ideas across. Things may improve markedly when he does. * Who takes over? Specifically, who would take on the job knowing - or believing - that our track record is not one of giving people time to get their ideas across and expecting miracles with the league's thinnest squad, and one that's painfully unbalanced. At some stage, you've got to stick with a manager through a tough patch. If not now, when? * Let's be honest here. Our problems are not simply swept away by ditching Darren Moore. * What did Cartwright see in him to view him as such a dream appointment in the first place? If he was right, then giving DM more time should soon yield results. If he's wrong, then what gives us confidence that he will get the next one right? I'm on the fence. I have little faith in Darren Moore despite the hand he's been dealt, but at the same time there are issues with sacking him too. The only positive I can see in all of this is that Mr Nagle was willing to come here in Lg1. Because it looks for all the world like that's where we'll be kicking off next season. Very well put but I think anyone can see that your reasons “to” hold much more weight than your reasons “not”, with the greatest being the falling attendances. A club is nothing without fans (whom he has lost),both in the sense of what makes a football club and ultimately, financially. So on that basis alone he needs to go.
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Post by dugnet on Dec 15, 2023 9:19:08 GMT 1
I voted no, but if there were a few more options I might have given a better assessment of where I'm at. "No" could be taken to mean I want him to be sacked today. That would be inaccurate but my vote is lumped in with that because it has nowhere else to go. I just mean that I think he's more likely to fail here than succeed. But there are issues with sacking him now. Reasons to sack him? * Game management is terrible. * Performances are - with a few exceptions here and there - terrible. * Attendances are down * It's difficult to point to what he's trying to do. If I could understand that, it might help, but it's not a continuation of Warnock-ball, nor is it any kind of style of his own that I can recognise. * If Moore is not the guy, then someone else needs this upcoming window and at least a little time to assess the squad. Reasons not to? * He has had neither a transfer window, nor a preseason to get his ideas across. Things may improve markedly when he does. * Who takes over? Specifically, who would take on the job knowing - or believing - that our track record is not one of giving people time to get their ideas across and expecting miracles with the league's thinnest squad, and one that's painfully unbalanced. At some stage, you've got to stick with a manager through a tough patch. If not now, when? * Let's be honest here. Our problems are not simply swept away by ditching Darren Moore. * What did Cartwright see in him to view him as such a dream appointment in the first place? If he was right, then giving DM more time should soon yield results. If he's wrong, then what gives us confidence that he will get the next one right? I'm on the fence. I have little faith in Darren Moore despite the hand he's been dealt, but at the same time there are issues with sacking him too. The only positive I can see in all of this is that Mr Nagle was willing to come here in Lg1. Because it looks for all the world like that's where we'll be kicking off next season. Your argument to retain DM is well thought through and certainly not without logic but I would, respectfully challenge, as follows: Tuesday was an occasion when, even allowing for some mitigations such as availability of players, the tactics and approach to the game raised serious concerns. To not be able to apparently pass and move to stretch the opposition is a simple basic tactic, we don't even try to employ this. We try to get forward down the flanks which narrows the pitch and allows the opposition to strangle our attempts to attack. Poor Sorba is often picking up a ball around the halfway line and expected to create from there. We move the ball so slowly/ineffectively that our attempts to play on the break are limited at best. Additionally we played with 3 defensive midfielders on Tuesday and were unable to disrupt the opposition's threat. NW found a way to contain and carry a threat in games. DM does not do this anywhere nearly enough. With regard to who takes over I would look at Tony Mowbray. Good knowledge of this league, perhaps a bit dour of personality but has a record of teams that play decent football. He also has contacts across the game and is respected (Premier League teams are likely to be willing to send good talent to a team managed by him). The Nagle era has made one change. There will be plenty of candidates who will give them a let on the grounds of finding their feet in English football. It is true that our issues run deeper than coaching and tactics. However can we really trust DM to come good based on what we have seen so far? It really is a stick or twist decision, a bit like drawing 16 in blackjack. There is an element of a gamble but you can also see what is infront of you. Lose badly in the next couple of games and I can't see the supporters having any faith. That doesn't mean Mr Nagle will sack him but it almost certainly means more empty seats at games. If a change is to be made it needs to being considered now and ready for the window. I think Cartwright is under as much pressure as Moore. In the same way as DM is seen by many as a risk to oversee the transfer window by the same measure the same is true of Cartwright. I am encouraged that Mr Nagle will have his boots on the ground in January but on reflection that might have better served this month. That would have allowed him the chance to witness at first hand how things worked on a day to day basis. He could have made a decision on the softer things such as manner (of individuals) and culture. These tell you much about the environment, atmosphere and culture. Assessing in January, in the midst of a crucial transfer window, is unlikely to be ideal. As you correctly say it is encouraging that Mr Nagle seems to be committed to the long term. If we were relegated it would be mildly encouraging that he would stick with the club. Of course how fans would react is a different matter. Given how some very good opportunities, to make the club better have been squandered (absolutely not Mr Nagle's doing) falling back to League One might be the final straw for many, not all but many. If you throw in the liklihood of increased season card prices (which we all know will have to happen) it doesn't make for an attractive proposition. Additionally revenues in League One will significantly reduce. Mr Nagle may well be committed but relegation is a long way back for him and the club. It's not an easy situation and it certainly needs clear thinking and assessment. It also needs backing up with honesty (about what has be learnt and how to improve on that learning) it also needs leadership that permeates through the club. From a purely footballing point of view we need to show more on the pitch. If only in intent, tactics and application. It's the old adage of, ",it's not that you lose, it's how you lose". Keep losing and offering little to threaten the opposition surely cannot be tenable for any manager? I've said before that it would be preferable for DM to be successful at Town. It would make our lives a lot more enjoyable but right now that isn't happening. It's down to him to do better. However for all the debate as a club we are, as you say, in a tough spot full stop. It's going to be fascinating, challenging and, probably, painful in the next 6 weeks. I wouldn't like to predict the outcome. As ever I hope for the best, but.... (apologies, to all, for the long winded waffle but you prompted a good debate here). UTT
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Post by goodbet on Dec 15, 2023 10:10:01 GMT 1
I voted no, but if there were a few more options I might have given a better assessment of where I'm at. "No" could be taken to mean I want him to be sacked today. That would be inaccurate but my vote is lumped in with that because it has nowhere else to go. I just mean that I think he's more likely to fail here than succeed. But there are issues with sacking him now. Reasons to sack him? * Game management is terrible. * Performances are - with a few exceptions here and there - terrible. * Attendances are down * It's difficult to point to what he's trying to do. If I could understand that, it might help, but it's not a continuation of Warnock-ball, nor is it any kind of style of his own that I can recognise. * If Moore is not the guy, then someone else needs this upcoming window and at least a little time to assess the squad. Reasons not to? * He has had neither a transfer window, nor a preseason to get his ideas across. Things may improve markedly when he does. Why would you waste a window on a guy who appears clueless. Schofield was not given a window and was he any worse?* Who takes over? Specifically, who would take on the job knowing - or believing - that our track record is not one of giving people time to get their ideas across and expecting miracles with the league's thinnest squad, and one that's painfully unbalanced. At some stage, you've got to stick with a manager through a tough patch. If not now, when? I think we are looking for a replacement now (or should be). We have seen Warnock got a lot more out of the squad than DM can manage and there are others that can, why stick with someone who will take us down* Let's be honest here. Our problems are not simply swept away by ditching Darren Moore. I agree, The people who picked him should go as well.* What did Cartwright see in him to view him as such a dream appointment in the first place? If he was right, then giving DM more time should soon yield results. If he's wrong, then what gives us confidence that he will get the next one right? No confidence at allI'm on the fence. I have little faith in Darren Moore despite the hand he's been dealt, but at the same time there are issues with sacking him too. The only positive I can see in all of this is that Mr Nagle was willing to come here in Lg1. Because it looks for all the world like that's where we'll be kicking off next season. If we stick we look like we are going down. If we look for a better match we still have time to save us. I don't see any good reason to keep him on.
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Post by SN0W on Dec 15, 2023 11:45:05 GMT 1
Out of his depth. Here's to the new year and a new beginning (fingers crossed).
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Post by Flowerdisco on Dec 15, 2023 11:55:13 GMT 1
In my opinion DMs responses is a boxer on the ropes. He knows full well performances and results haven't been good enough. Even with the injuries and thin squad he could be doing better, his bizarre substitutions and reluctance to go for the win at home worries me. Whether he has it in his locker to change things around is questionable. I'm pretty sure KN will make the tough decision and not shy away from any criticism he may receive either way whether he sacks DM or not. We cannot carry on like this though, something has to change
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on Dec 15, 2023 12:06:57 GMT 1
He doesn't say that though, does he: DM: " in terms of my reaction is always a positive one. And a positive one in a sense Catherine that we're all trying here to get things right at the football club, we're all underrating that there has been lot of change at the football club in terms of what's happened over the last two, three four months. But we're extremely together. We're showing a unity, a togetherness and that's coming straight from the chairman which I've eluded to. We speak every single week,. He's coming over here in January, which is great, and he continues to work on the short-term... we speak very, very regularly and open". He then goes on to discuss how they were both disappointed after Tuesday night; getting results, being competitive. When pressed whether he knew the statement was going to be made public, he then goes on to say that; " again, it's a positive not a negative, because it shows that the owner of the football club is a passionate as anybody else. And that statement has come from the very top, so again it shows that if people think there's isn't a care in the world about Huddersfield Town, then there is your statement... I would stress that there is a unified message throughout the football club". He is then asked his thoughts on being called out about the quality of play and asked how he reflects on that: he responds, in admittedly inarticulate way, of saying " that would be unprofessional" of him to react and publicly say what they're doing and how they're responding internally. He then goes on to say that he " accepts" the criticism that the brand of football is " boring". So, in summary, he actually says: - that he wont react negatively. His attitude is to respond to negativity in a positive manner. - he see's KN's comments as a positive for the football club as a whole and it's fans. - he agrees with KN and the KH, that what were producing is shit. If you're gonna call him out for being 'thick as mince' and start a conversation on the matter, at least make sure you quote him properly and put it in context. But then again, that doesn't suit the mood, does it. It's not positive though, it's not positive at all. Let's see how we set up Saturday to see if any lessons have been learned. This was my point, I didn't misrepresent what he said, at all. He was asked more than once about the message and each time started with calling it a positive. Which it clearly wasn't.
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on Dec 15, 2023 12:08:16 GMT 1
Something believable. "I share his concerns" "I understand where he's coming from". Not "It's a positive". Because that's utter bullshit. He doesn't say that though, does he: DM: " in terms of my reaction is always a positive one. And a positive one in a sense Catherine that we're all trying here to get things right at the football club, we're all underrating that there has been lot of change at the football club in terms of what's happened over the last two, three four months. But we're extremely together. We're showing a unity, a togetherness and that's coming straight from the chairman which I've eluded to. We speak every single week,. He's coming over here in January, which is great, and he continues to work on the short-term... we speak very, very regularly and open". He then goes on to discuss how they were both disappointed after Tuesday night; getting results, being competitive. When pressed whether he knew the statement was going to be made public, he then goes on to say that; " again, it's a positive not a negative, because it shows that the owner of the football club is a passionate as anybody else. And that statement has come from the very top, so again it shows that if people think there's isn't a care in the world about Huddersfield Town, then there is your statement... I would stress that there is a unified message throughout the football club". He is then asked his thoughts on being called out about the quality of play and asked how he reflects on that: he responds, in admittedly inarticulate way, of saying " that would be unprofessional" of him to react and publicly say what they're doing and how they're responding internally. He then goes on to say that he " accepts" the criticism that the brand of football is " boring". So, in summary, he actually says: - that he wont react negatively. His attitude is to respond to negativity in a positive manner. - he see's KN's comments as a positive for the football club as a whole and it's fans. - he agrees with KN and KH, that what were producing is shit. If you're gonna call him out for being 'thick as mince' and start a conversation on the matter, at least make sure you quote him properly and put it in context. But then again, that doesn't suit the mood, does it. No, he started each reply about the message with saying the message is a positive. He then waffled on and tried to paint it as anything other than a very clear, very public bollocking .
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 15, 2023 12:27:15 GMT 1
I hadn't voted... but I'm now going to vote "yes" because I'm a contrary bastard and stubborn luddite blood runs in my veins. If you're a Luddite you wouldn't have a phone or computer, surely 🤔😁
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Post by morleyterrier on Dec 15, 2023 12:32:05 GMT 1
If Fotheringham was presiding over this and not Moore.
There would have been baying mobs with pitch forks and burning torches outside his house some matches ago.
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Post by kennyk2 on Dec 15, 2023 12:32:59 GMT 1
I hadn't voted... but I'm now going to vote "yes" because I'm a contrary bastard and stubborn luddite blood runs in my veins. If you're a Luddite you wouldn't have a phone or computer, surely 🤔😁 Good point.
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 15, 2023 12:34:06 GMT 1
To be fair to him no matter what Moore says at this stage he’s on a hiding to nothing, not sure what he could say which would please us Ultimately he now needs to deliver on the pitch results or even if not results a pattern which looks like we’ve met each other before and the fans can see what we’re trying to do so we’d have faith with better players he could get a tune 14 games, 2 international breaks and first choice 4 attacking options all available - excuses over. Deliver or bust. "I've resigned" would do the trick.
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Post by rugbyterrier on Dec 15, 2023 13:17:10 GMT 1
If you're a Luddite you wouldn't have a phone or computer, surely 🤔😁 Good point. He could have an e-noch's hammer!!!
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Post by DATM Travel Agent on Dec 15, 2023 18:49:19 GMT 1
I'm absolutely not having it that 6.5% (18/277) of voters genuinely, in all seriousness, think that DM is the right manager for us.
Would be really interested to know the reasons why any of those 18 people think he is the right person.
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Post by mickydombat on Dec 15, 2023 19:48:45 GMT 1
He doesn't care , and neither do his assistants, as they know they'll get a good pay off. Daft to give 3 year contracts, so the person that appointed them needs to go also.
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Post by ben1987 on Dec 15, 2023 20:58:46 GMT 1
If Fotheringham was presiding over this and not Moore. There would have been baying mobs with pitch forks and burning torches outside his house some matches ago. What the fuck are you on about? This poll is literally 19 in favour and 290 against currently with datm, Twitter and Facebook tearing into Moore. You’re a special type of crayon eater you.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Dec 15, 2023 21:04:07 GMT 1
I think Moore underistimates his current position, in terms of how much his job is in peril . I think if we lose tomorrow , that could be good night Moore. I think from listening to him, that he feels because he signed a 3 year deal, that we can or are building for something 3 years down the line regardless of his current level of manegerial preformance, i mean come on 2 wins in 14 is so poor its not even funny. I understand injuries, but still . I think if we are to lose tomorrow things will change .
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Post by waggers on Dec 15, 2023 21:15:25 GMT 1
I think Moore underistimates his current position, in terms of how much his job is in peril . I think if we lose tomorrow , that could be good night Moore. I think from listening to him, that he feels because he signed a 3 year deal, that we can or are building for something 3 years down the line regardless of his current level of manegerial preformance, i mean come on 2 wins in 14 is so poor its not even funny. I understand injuries, but still . I think if we are to lose tomorrow things will change . I agree, Moore thinks he has a much longer grace period than he does, but I don't think losing tomorrow will get him the chop. If the terrible performances and results continues into the first few games of January I think Nagle will cut his losses on Moore. Going off Nagle's comments I believe he is very disappointed in Moore. He must be a very intelligent man to achieve what he has in his life so I'd be surprised if he isn't already preparing and lining up a successor. Early January we might see a new man in charge.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Dec 15, 2023 21:20:02 GMT 1
I think Moore underistimates his current position, in terms of how much his job is in peril . I think if we lose tomorrow , that could be good night Moore. I think from listening to him, that he feels because he signed a 3 year deal, that we can or are building for something 3 years down the line regardless of his current level of manegerial preformance, i mean come on 2 wins in 14 is so poor its not even funny. I understand injuries, but still . I think if we are to lose tomorrow things will change . I agree, Moore thinks he has a much longer grace period than he does, but I don't think losing tomorrow will get him the chop. If the terrible performances and results continues into the first few games of January I think Nagle will cut his losses on Moore. Going off Nagle's comments I believe he is very disappointed in Moore. He must be a very intelligent man to achieve what he has in his life so I'd be surprised if he isn't already preparing and lining up a successor. Early January we might see a new man in charge. I just have feeling that if tomorrow, doesn't go our way , then Moore will be gone. I think if the preformance is like Tuesday first half and we lose , then Nagle will pull the trigger. I heard little whispears on Tuesday that Town are active in looking for a possible replacement, i suppose we will see come the result tomorrow.
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Post by canuckterrier on Dec 15, 2023 21:34:28 GMT 1
Geez, those are brutal poling numbers. In all my years on DATM I can't remember a more one-sided poll. I'm actually starting to feel sorry for him. The one on banning Nick was nearly as bad and should have been worse as Essex Terrier logged on and voted under 10 different guises thus skewing the numbers.
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Dec 16, 2023 0:02:21 GMT 1
Inherited a poor squad and his survival in the job will depend on who is brought in via january window
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Post by bells ringing :) on Dec 16, 2023 0:04:37 GMT 1
Inherited a poor squad and his survival in the job will depend on who is brought in via january window poor squad yes, but also poor tactical play isnn't helping him. Warnock for example had better tactics for the squad given.
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Dec 16, 2023 0:11:56 GMT 1
Inherited a poor squad and his survival in the job will depend on who is brought in via january window poor squad yes, but also poor tactical play isnn't helping him. Warnock for example had better tactics for the squad given. Yes but bringing in the right players could go a long way to make his tactical play work .
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Post by ColchTerrier on Dec 16, 2023 0:27:17 GMT 1
He ain’t got no tactical play. He hasn’t got nothing - unless we spawn another point or 3 tomorrow he will be gone Sunday. Surely!!!
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Post by willo on Dec 16, 2023 2:08:58 GMT 1
Q. Should Warnock have been relieved of his duties? A. No, so far as the majority of supporters were concerned as he was getting the best out of this group of players as any manager likely could get. Still not sure why he was let go if I’m being honest, lots of smoke and mirror play from some but nothing substantiated. Q. Was Darren Moore the right replacement? A. Not for me and I’ve said this right from the start. Q. Should Moore still be the Town manager? A. Plenty have better records and have still been shown the door, personally can’t understand why he’s still in the role. I really don’t want him still here come January 1st and being involved with any recruitment in the transfer window. Q. Are you that dead set against Moore that you’d happily see Town lose at Millwall to hasten the move to fire him? A. Not for me as I don’t think a desire to see the removal of any manager should be above us getting a win. Q. Has he been poorly treated by Town supporters both in the stands and on social media? A. His match day “tactics” and incoherent press conferences certainly haven’t endeared him to the Town faithful and for this, Moore only has himself to blame however some of the comments on social media have gone too far and been too personal. Crowds do what crowds do, you either voice your displeasure at the state of things or you vote with your feet which many are now doing. Q. Any sympathy for the current manager’s plight? A. Some, but not much. We have had injuries which has only served to highlight how ridiculously light we are on experienced Championship players although the previous manager was doing ok. Coming in and trying to change the style of play was stupid and especially so when you don’t have the calibre of player to play out from the back, etc. Warnock saw this and went back to basics. Q. Where next? A. Lose to Millwall and you simply have to think Moore will be gone. An unexpected win or a draw and he at least hangs on for another week further prolonging the agony as I think he’s a dead man walking now. I don’t necessarily blame Kevin Nagle for any of this bar the daft tweet he sent out after the Norwich game which was completely unnecessary, it’s the 2 below who thought Moore was a good option who need to get their act together. Whoever is manager, we will need a strong January window - Nagle been in town for the month is a plus - and any excuses/reasons for not spending some money on quality recruits a la ffp need dispelling.
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 16, 2023 8:22:13 GMT 1
He could have an e-noch's hammer!!! A couple of them and he'd be smashed anyway
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Post by royrace on Dec 16, 2023 9:41:56 GMT 1
I agree, Moore thinks he has a much longer grace period than he does, but I don't think losing tomorrow will get him the chop. If the terrible performances and results continues into the first few games of January I think Nagle will cut his losses on Moore. Going off Nagle's comments I believe he is very disappointed in Moore. He must be a very intelligent man to achieve what he has in his life so I'd be surprised if he isn't already preparing and lining up a successor. Early January we might see a new man in charge. I just have feeling that if tomorrow, doesn't go our way , then Moore will be gone. I think if the preformance is like Tuesday first half and we lose , then Nagle will pull the trigger. I heard little whispears on Tuesday that Town are active in looking for a possible replacement, i suppose we will see come the result tomorrow. If they are actively looking then I hope they are asking someone other than Cartwright. If I were KN I'd be asking someone from the outside to appraise the situation and the decision making to date. It was a completely inappropriate appointment in the first place, do you just trust the same man to try again? I wouldn't, KN will have a very limited knowledge of the championship, the best thing he could do, and what he probably thought he was doing, is to take advice from people who know.
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