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Post by portugalterrier on Dec 16, 2023 21:51:59 GMT 1
We're missing a point here. Yes, it's a poor and imbalanced squad but we had a manager who could get a tune out of it. Koroma is the litmus paper for a decent manager and right now we haven't got one. And that’s down to the ‘ decent “ manager we had.
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Post by captainblack on Dec 16, 2023 22:23:16 GMT 1
I’ve said many times I almost never watch Town on TV, if I’m not at the game I don’t want to know what’s happening till it’s over. Just me. However, I watched the PNE game on Sky a few days ago, hated it. Having been at the game today I’m slightly surprised to read that the majority of fans that presumably watched today on iFollow or whatnot thought today was shocking. I just didn’t think it was that bad really. In my opinion it was a lot better than PNE; it was still pretty mediocre but it wasn’t bad, and the result was OK. Agreed. Some people seem fixated on doom, gloom, despondency and anger. It feels like some compete with each other to shout the loudest and criticise our club at every level. Balance and perspective go out of the window when some folk appear to crave 'likes' on social media. I don't believe fans are fixated on doom and gloom Pete , I feel that they are genuinely concerned at of lack of positive results , and a manager who seems incapable of seemingly changing are fortunes, I sincerely hope DM can oversee an upturn in results , It would please me no end, unfortunately I cannot see this happening! I don't feel like supporters like me are having a dig at the club , I just feel that the club is heading in a sort of downward spiral, the sacking of Warnock was avoidable, and now we are feeling the affects from this decision. I think a lot of fans would love to have your positivity , I just think that they can see that things are not quite that rosy at the present time.
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Dec 16, 2023 22:36:13 GMT 1
Agreed. Some people seem fixated on doom, gloom, despondency and anger. It feels like some compete with each other to shout the loudest and criticise our club at every level. Balance and perspective go out of the window when some folk appear to crave 'likes' on social media. I don't believe fans are fixated on doom and gloom Pete , I feel that they are genuinely concerned at of lack of positive results , and a manager who seems incapable of seemingly changing are fortunes, I sincerely hope DM can oversee an upturn in results , It would please me no end, unfortunately I cannot see this happening! I don't feel like supporters like me are having a dig at the club , I just feel that the club is heading in a sort of downward spiral, the sacking of Warnock was avoidable, and now we are feeling the affects from this decision. I think a lot of fans would love to have your positivity , I just think that they can see that things are not quite that rosy at the present time. I can certainly see that things are not that rosy at the present time Positivity and optimism are the choices that I choose to make rather than choosing to drown in negativity. Better to.light a candle than curse the darkness
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Post by nicovaesen on Dec 16, 2023 22:39:03 GMT 1
Watched a fair bit of the game today. A difficult place to get a point, but was pleased with how Rudoni continually tried to get us on the front foot. That’s one thing that does my head in, how we collect a pass facing back to the goal, or square on. Let’s hope we keep him fit… Thought they had the worst home form in the league?
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Post by andyeastleake on Dec 16, 2023 22:47:25 GMT 1
Agreed. Some people seem fixated on doom, gloom, despondency and anger. It feels like some compete with each other to shout the loudest and criticise our club at every level. Balance and perspective go out of the window when some folk appear to crave 'likes' on social media. Pete, Today I think I'm (surprisingly) in a minority with you, in that I think we got a deserved point (& TBH DM didn't do a lot wrong - possibly JK earlier but I can see the argument for the delay). .....but when you're lecturing people about balance & perspective, the only phrase that comes to mind is "pot & kettle".
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Post by boooothy on Dec 16, 2023 22:50:27 GMT 1
We got a point, Rudoni is back and looks to be fully fit, Nicholls is hopefully back in goals. A game i’m glad i didn’t attend but still a good day for Town.
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Post by goodbet on Dec 16, 2023 22:54:37 GMT 1
I don't believe fans are fixated on doom and gloom Pete , I feel that they are genuinely concerned at of lack of positive results , and a manager who seems incapable of seemingly changing are fortunes, I sincerely hope DM can oversee an upturn in results , It would please me no end, unfortunately I cannot see this happening! I don't feel like supporters like me are having a dig at the club , I just feel that the club is heading in a sort of downward spiral, the sacking of Warnock was avoidable, and now we are feeling the affects from this decision. I think a lot of fans would love to have your positivity , I just think that they can see that things are not quite that rosy at the present time. I can certainly see that things are not that rosy at the present time Positivity and optimism are the choices that I choose to make rather than choosing to drown in negativity. Better to.light a candle than curse the darkness The point is that people have been telling us since we were in the Premier League that it is not all doom and gloom and to look at the positive. The result is that the owners have been given a relativly easy ride allowing them to sell any players they can get any money for and bring in (on the whole) either old past it strikers or young players with no Championship experience in the hope that they grow in to the team. This is how we end up with the squad and manager that we have. I don't mind anyone wanting to live in hope but until there is some light at the end of the tunnel please don't ask a realist to join you. You can look light a candle but just don't walk outside in to the real world as the candle will be blow out.
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Dec 16, 2023 22:55:36 GMT 1
Agreed. Some people seem fixated on doom, gloom, despondency and anger. It feels like some compete with each other to shout the loudest and criticise our club at every level. Balance and perspective go out of the window when some folk appear to crave 'likes' on social media. Pete, Today I think I'm (surprisingly) in a minority with you, in that I think we got a deserved point (& TBH DM didn't do a lot wrong - possibly JK earlier but I can see the argument for the delay). .....but when you're lecturing people about balance & perspective, the only phrase that comes to mind is "pot & kettle". If only you had stuck to the first paragraph. If that's the 'only' phrase then it reveals your limitations Andy 🤣
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Dec 16, 2023 22:58:38 GMT 1
I can certainly see that things are not that rosy at the present time Positivity and optimism are the choices that I choose to make rather than choosing to drown in negativity. Better to.light a candle than curse the darkness The point is that people have been telling us since we were in the Premier League that it is not all doom and gloom and to look at the positive. The result is that the owners have been given a relativly easy ride allowing them to sell any players they can get any money for and bring in (on the whole) either old past it strikers or young players with no Championship experience in the hope that they grow in to the team. This is how we end up with the squad and manager that we have. I don't mind anyone wanting to live in hope but until there is some light at the end of the tunnel please don't ask a realist to join you. You can look light a candle but just don't walk outside in to the real world as the candle will be blow out. Not sure about your last sentence but a realist can't keep harping on about what's gone
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Post by andyeastleake on Dec 16, 2023 23:03:21 GMT 1
Pete, Today I think I'm (surprisingly) in a minority with you, in that I think we got a deserved point (& TBH DM didn't do a lot wrong - possibly JK earlier but I can see the argument for the delay). .....but when you're lecturing people about balance & perspective, the only phrase that comes to mind is "pot & kettle". If only you had stuck to the first paragraph. If that's the 'only' phrase then it reveals your limitations Andy 🤣 Good riposte. Bad choice of words the "obvious" would have been better than "only" (but TBF you (& the admins) probably wouldn't have liked some of my alternatives to "pot and kettle") PS You don't answer half as quickly (or at all) if I ask you difficult questions do you?
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Post by 2ellandback on Dec 16, 2023 23:04:01 GMT 1
Well im happy with the point. I feared a thrashing but it is a decent point down there as never an easy place to go. Certainly need a good window to bring some quality in, but this should have been done pre-season as we all know. Trying to do things on the cheap and not adding strength and depth to the group has been disappointing to say the least. As for DM, he has a lot to prove... Except this season it is the easiest place to go. They are bottom of the Home Table with only 2 wins and 3 draws from 11 matches and a -8 goal difference.
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Post by goodbet on Dec 16, 2023 23:06:55 GMT 1
The point is that people have been telling us since we were in the Premier League that it is not all doom and gloom and to look at the positive. The result is that the owners have been given a relativly easy ride allowing them to sell any players they can get any money for and bring in (on the whole) either old past it strikers or young players with no Championship experience in the hope that they grow in to the team. This is how we end up with the squad and manager that we have. I don't mind anyone wanting to live in hope but until there is some light at the end of the tunnel please don't ask a realist to join you. You can look light a candle but just don't walk outside in to the real world as the candle will be blow out. Not sure about your last sentence but a realist can't keep harping on about what's gone Why not? We are at this point because of what went on before. As for the future, who knows? We hope that there will be something happening in the January window, but we will have to wait and see.
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Dec 16, 2023 23:12:17 GMT 1
If only you had stuck to the first paragraph. If that's the 'only' phrase then it reveals your limitations Andy 🤣 Good riposte. Bad choice of words the "obvious" would have been better than "only" (but TBF you (& the admins) probably wouldn't have liked some of my alternatives to "pot and kettle") PS You don't answer half as quickly (or at all) if I ask you difficult questions do you? I do enjoy the banter Andy. I'm not on DATM 24/7
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Post by softboy on Dec 16, 2023 23:12:40 GMT 1
Whilst it only a small positive we are getting hard to beat. Only 2 teams below the top 6 have lost fewer (but only by 1). We all know it’s the other end of the pitch where we struggle most but thought this was worth a mention.
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Post by Up the Duff. on Dec 16, 2023 23:52:00 GMT 1
So pleased for the travelling fans down there. UTT Anyone know how many we had at the game ?
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Post by bluesandtwos on Dec 17, 2023 0:05:14 GMT 1
Other than Koroma, who came on later for Hogg, an attacking swap but partly due to Hogg being on a yellow, who could he have brought on to change the game? Cons: Still pretty toothless with little attacking intent. Pros: Rudoni played 90 minutes. Kasumu looks to be getting fully fit again. A point away at Millwall. They kept going until the end, 97th minute winner. We are still the same poor squad we were before the game but we have only lost one of the past 6. Moore is going to slated every game unless we win by at least a couple of clear goals but with the poor attacking options we have it isn't going to happen before the window. You do realise we drew? Which bit of my post made you think I didn’t?
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Dec 17, 2023 0:24:15 GMT 1
Which bit of my post made you think I didn’t? When you stated a 97th minute winner in your pros
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Post by football on Dec 17, 2023 0:51:35 GMT 1
So pleased for the travelling fans down there. UTT Anyone know how many we had at the game ? 750 according to Town website
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Post by rab030 on Dec 17, 2023 1:03:53 GMT 1
So pleased for the travelling fans down there. UTT Anyone know how many we had at the game ? Just got back - long day but really enjoyed the day out and thought there were lots of positives. Great to have Jack back and he gave us more attacking options. Two poor sides both lacking in confidence but I actually thought we were the better team, Reading some of the comments on here is just laughable and people need to manage their expectations. Moore has got them working really hard for each other which I agree is papering over lots of cracks in terms of ability. NW is not coming back and was basically sacked because he got caught - that’s why he went quietly and agreed to the ‘handover’. FFS - the negative comments towards the team and the management is not helping. Difficult to tell how many were there today but my guess would be circa 500. Good atmosphere and no moaning or booing - real fans compared to some of the armchair bedwetters that moan all day everyday.
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Post by 28901 on Dec 17, 2023 2:52:07 GMT 1
Remember when the majority thought Rudoni was a shit signing? Best player at the club by a mile, with a top attitude. He won't be here long.
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Post by impact on Dec 17, 2023 3:19:16 GMT 1
Remember when the majority thought Rudoni was a shit signing? Best player at the club by a mile, with a top attitude. He won't be here long. I really don't remember the majority thinking Rudoni was a shit signing.
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Post by Up the Duff. on Dec 17, 2023 4:35:41 GMT 1
Anyone know how many we had at the game ? 750 according to Town website Thanks, it felt like more. Good following at this time of year.
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Post by rockwall on Dec 17, 2023 8:49:25 GMT 1
Which bit of my post made you think I didn’t? 'They kept going until the end, 97th minute winner'.....
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Post by bluesandtwos on Dec 17, 2023 9:00:20 GMT 1
I could. I thought we had a good shape and any change would have been risky. What would you have done differently? Not played Hogg who just chases shadows nowadays or fouls. He really is past it. And his replacement would be?
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Post by rockwall on Dec 17, 2023 9:06:51 GMT 1
Remember when the majority thought Rudoni was a shit signing? Best player at the club by a mile, with a top attitude. He won't be here long. I really don't remember the majority thinking Rudoni was a shit signing. Go back to the Rudoni threads. I got pelters for suggesting he was a decent player.
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Post by bluesandtwos on Dec 17, 2023 9:20:09 GMT 1
Which bit of my post made you think I didn’t? When you stated a 97th minute winner in your pros Ah, good point and well spotted 🙂
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Post by bluesandtwos on Dec 17, 2023 9:25:19 GMT 1
I really don't remember the majority thinking Rudoni was a shit signing. Go back to the Rudoni threads. I got pelters for suggesting he was a decent player. I think when many fans are in the regular slough of despond mode, especially regarding signing players from lower divisions, none of them are considered a good signing unless they are obviously very, very good. Rudoni took a while to settle, and didn’t score as we hoped he would, but he always showed real promise.
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 17, 2023 10:17:02 GMT 1
Agreed. Some people seem fixated on doom, gloom, despondency and anger. It feels like some compete with each other to shout the loudest and criticise our club at every level. Balance and perspective go out of the window when some folk appear to crave 'likes' on social media. But you don't offer balance and perspective give. You just offer club establishment propaganda. I don't understand how he can still type. His hands must be red raw from happy clapping.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Dec 17, 2023 10:25:26 GMT 1
Remember when the majority thought Rudoni was a shit signing? Best player at the club by a mile, with a top attitude. He won't be here long. I really don't remember the majority thinking Rudoni was a shit signing. Me neither 🤔
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2023 10:33:26 GMT 1
Remember when the majority thought Rudoni was a shit signing? Best player at the club by a mile, with a top attitude. He won't be here long. Plenty did,the usual who don't give anyone a chance and moan like fuck
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