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Post by rab030 on Dec 17, 2023 14:33:38 GMT 1
Equally, look back at the last 6 games and the voting on what they think the result will be. It’s the same people who vote most weeks including the 281, and the majority’ have been wrong. But they prefer to vote Town defeat and continue with their negative agenda. I’m not convinced about DM but the results he’s getting from a very poor squad that he inherited don’t warrant the abuse he gets - IMO How do you know this when there's no requirement to add your name when voting? I almost always vote for a Town win (optimistic I know) but I'm firmly in the Moore out camp. As for this being a "small majority", whenever there's a poll (elections etc), it's always taken from a small sample of people but as sure as eggs are eggs, you can bet your life on it that with a majority the size of this poll, it's representative of the fanbase as a whole. You only have to attend the games (I go to all home games) to see the empty seats and the comments from folk who do attend and are genuinely pissed off with the club's current predicament, which is largely self inflicted. I don’t know - it’s my opinion. Probably too many sweeping statements from both of us but I agree that there are lots of pissed off people at home games and too many empty seats. But how is that self-inflicted in terms of KN and DM ?
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Post by portugalterrier on Dec 17, 2023 14:51:35 GMT 1
Whatever anyone says any points picked up away from home in the Championship are extreamly valuable.
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Post by Big Ern on Dec 17, 2023 15:01:51 GMT 1
Whatever anyone says any points picked up away from home in the Championship are extreamly valuable. And 3 points dropped at home isn't so really we need to be doing better.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Dec 17, 2023 15:05:28 GMT 1
How do you know this when there's no requirement to add your name when voting? I almost always vote for a Town win (optimistic I know) but I'm firmly in the Moore out camp. As for this being a "small majority", whenever there's a poll (elections etc), it's always taken from a small sample of people but as sure as eggs are eggs, you can bet your life on it that with a majority the size of this poll, it's representative of the fanbase as a whole. You only have to attend the games (I go to all home games) to see the empty seats and the comments from folk who do attend and are genuinely pissed off with the club's current predicament, which is largely self inflicted. I don’t know - it’s my opinion. Probably too many sweeping statements from both of us but I agree that there are lots of pissed off people at home games and too many empty seats. But how is that self-inflicted in terms of KN and DM ? I'm not blaming Nagle because he's obviously appointed folk he thinks he can trust to run the club on his behalf. Moore on the other hand with his often negative playing style, bizarre team selections (an example bring Koroma at left wing back with Headley & Yuta on the bench), Playing seven defenders/defensive midfielders at Birmingham when we'd just put in our best performance under Moore (Ipswich). Even when he plays two up front (last two games) we carry little or no goal threat. Our fee kicks/corners which have previously been our main goal threat, have going down hill rapidly since Moore's "free kick specialist", Simon Ireland has come in. We've had more players available last two or three games, but nowt's changed in terms of performance, with one or two notable exceptions in Kasumu and Rudoni. Like the majority on here (and I believe in general), I've no faith in him turning it round.
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Post by sabailand on Dec 17, 2023 15:18:40 GMT 1
Whatever anyone says any points picked up away from home in the Championship are extreamly valuable. Agree irespective of opposition, its home form we really have to improve although im stating the obvious.
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 17, 2023 17:09:23 GMT 1
Remember when the majority thought Rudoni was a shit signing? Best player at the club by a mile, with a top attitude. He won't be here long. I really don't remember the majority thinking Rudoni was a shit signing. He was getting slagged off up hill and down dale last season. There weren't many of us, on here, sticking up for him.
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 17, 2023 17:16:04 GMT 1
We’ve drawn more games than any other club across the 4 divisions this season. Which is why it seems that we are about 3 decent attacking players away from turning draws into wins. Except they'll cost money and we have a used car salesman, with an out of date little black book, trying to sign them 🫣
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Dec 17, 2023 17:29:01 GMT 1
But you don't offer balance and perspective give. You just offer club establishment propaganda. I don't understand how he can still type. His hands must be red raw from happy clapping. Or maybe is not a drama queen
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 17, 2023 17:37:23 GMT 1
I don't understand how he can still type. His hands must be red raw from happy clapping. Or maybe is not a drama queen What's the opposite ? If you're unhappy with how things are you're a "drama queen". What's the name for the ones that still think everything's wonderful despite everything pointing to it not being 🤷
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Dec 17, 2023 17:51:52 GMT 1
Or maybe is not a drama queen What's the opposite ? If you're unhappy with how things are you're a "drama queen". What's the name for the ones that still think everything's wonderful despite everything pointing to it not being 🤷 Happy clapper?
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Dec 17, 2023 18:04:17 GMT 1
Or maybe is not a drama queen What's the opposite ? If you're unhappy with how things are you're a "drama queen". What's the name for the ones that still think everything's wonderful despite everything pointing to it not being 🤷 And then there are those in the middle, who don’t have a break down when we lose, happy when we win, don’t sing cheap shots at that manager during the game, don’t clap the team off when they have lost badly, look forward to going to football in general, bit pissed off when it’s not going great, can see that things take time, can see we need to start winning asap, say we are shit when we are and say we are ok when we are.
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Post by ben1987 on Dec 17, 2023 18:13:41 GMT 1
Plenty did,the usual who don't give anyone a chance and moan like fuck It was the same ‘majority’ that have voted DM out without a credible alternative solution? They are a minority of real Town fans but unfortunately they make up the majority of posters on DATM. They don’t go to games, have nothing to contribute and are not the fans we want anyway. I honestly couldn’t dislike the post more. The attendance on Tuesday night v Preston was as clear and obvious statement of how Town fans feel. That has nothing to do with DATM. That’s fans who’ve stuck by the club through thick and thin that are completely fed up. Moore’s style and results is a contributing factor.
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Post by htfcterry on Dec 17, 2023 18:22:35 GMT 1
Plenty did,the usual who don't give anyone a chance and moan like fuck It was the same ‘majority’ that have voted DM out without a credible alternative solution? They are a minority of real Town fans but unfortunately they make up the majority of posters on DATM. They don’t go to games, have nothing to contribute and are not the fans we want anyway. Not the fans we want? I didn’t realise we were in a position to pick and choose numbers, especially after the Preston game.
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Post by goodbet on Dec 17, 2023 18:37:33 GMT 1
What's the opposite ? If you're unhappy with how things are you're a "drama queen". What's the name for the ones that still think everything's wonderful despite everything pointing to it not being 🤷 Happy clapper? How about :- Living in la la land
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 17, 2023 19:48:08 GMT 1
Just watched the "highlights" on Sky, fuck knows who the commentator was but he's possibly the worst I've ever heard.
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Dec 17, 2023 20:32:02 GMT 1
It was the same ‘majority’ that have voted DM out without a credible alternative solution? They are a minority of real Town fans but unfortunately they make up the majority of posters on DATM. They don’t go to games, have nothing to contribute and are not the fans we want anyway. What utter tripe! The fans on here are not representative of the fan base.
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Dec 17, 2023 20:34:27 GMT 1
The fans on here are not representative of the fan base. Yeah ok mate.
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Dec 17, 2023 20:40:13 GMT 1
Or maybe is not a drama queen What's the opposite ? If you're unhappy with how things are you're a "drama queen". What's the name for the ones that still think everything's wonderful despite everything pointing to it not being 🤷 Wrong end of stick, I say that a positive attitude is good inferring he can't type for being a happy clapper is rubbish, the happy clapper name is an easy wind up. Get a reaction. Being happy to follow your team through thick and thin is to be commended ... Highly shows a mature and balanced view of football and it's function in society. Old fashioned but don't give a toss. Huddersfield till I die...
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Post by Melc on Dec 17, 2023 21:06:39 GMT 1
The fans on here are not representative of the fan base. To be honest I don’t know if they are or not, but what I do know is the football that has been on offer under Moore is driving thousands of season ticket holders away. I am a long standing town fan for over 65 years and have had a season ticket/ card for over the last 40 years. The football has been that bad I have missed three out of the last four home games simply because I have been bored to death. Last Tuesday I doubt 9000 town fans turned up, and we all know why!
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Post by stinkypete on Dec 17, 2023 21:23:17 GMT 1
Just watched the "highlights" on Sky, fuck knows who the commentator was but he's possibly the worst I've ever heard. I thought same, seemed adamant it wasn’t a penalty!! Don’t think you get much more blatant handballs than that tbh!
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 17, 2023 21:25:09 GMT 1
Just watched the "highlights" on Sky, fuck knows who the commentator was but he's possibly the worst I've ever heard. I thought same, seemed adamant it wasn’t a penalty!! Don’t think you get much more blatant handballs than that tbh! I enjoyed the bit where he said the Millwall goal was a brilliant finish
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Dec 17, 2023 21:33:02 GMT 1
The fans on here are not representative of the fan base. Judging by comments on other social media platforms and from inside the ground (those of who still attend), I'd say they are very representative.
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Post by ACW on Dec 17, 2023 21:39:40 GMT 1
What's the opposite ? If you're unhappy with how things are you're a "drama queen". What's the name for the ones that still think everything's wonderful despite everything pointing to it not being 🤷 Wrong end of stick, I say that a positive attitude is good inferring he can't type for being a happy clapper is rubbish, the happy clapper name is an easy wind up. Get a reaction. Being happy to follow your team through thick and thin is to be commended ... Highly shows a mature and balanced view of football and it's function in society. Old fashioned but don't give a toss. Huddersfield till I die... The term 'Happy clapper' may well be used as an easy wind up. But so are the terms 'drama queen' and 'bed wetter'. To be honest, those on both sides of the divide can be as bad as each other.
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Post by andyeastleake on Dec 17, 2023 22:07:10 GMT 1
The fans on here are not representative of the fan base. TBF Could you please explain how and why you reach that conclusion. It's an easy thing to say. Do you think the thousands of season ticket holder's empty seats last Tuesday were not representative of the fanbase either?
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Post by andyeastleake on Dec 17, 2023 22:10:49 GMT 1
Just watched the "highlights" on Sky, fuck knows who the commentator was but he's possibly the worst I've ever heard. Have you seen our extended highlights on Youtube? Was he the same commentator? I thought the Millwall commentator on the stream I watched (& those highlights) was a very good & a fair commentator throughout.
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Post by turbo2 on Dec 17, 2023 22:32:03 GMT 1
It was the same ‘majority’ that have voted DM out without a credible alternative solution? They are a minority of real Town fans but unfortunately they make up the majority of posters on DATM. They don’t go to games, have nothing to contribute and are not the fans we want anyway. I honestly couldn’t dislike the post more. The attendance on Tuesday night v Preston was as clear and obvious statement of how Town fans feel. That has nothing to do with DATM. That’s fans who’ve stuck by the club through thick and thin that are completely fed up. Moore’s style and results is a contributing factor. Fans are the lifeblood of the club. And Tuesday night told us all what a good amount think of the current state of play. I was there til the end. But can I blame anyone for not going or staying til the end? Nope. I can’t remember a league game where so few remained at the final whistle. My hope is similar to under Carlos when he has no cards to play. Eventually he got players fit and found a formation. Time will tell. But I’m defo not a fan of sacking managers time after time and then saying “wait till they get their players in”
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Post by pterrier on Dec 17, 2023 22:39:50 GMT 1
I honestly couldn’t dislike the post more. The attendance on Tuesday night v Preston was as clear and obvious statement of how Town fans feel. That has nothing to do with DATM. That’s fans who’ve stuck by the club through thick and thin that are completely fed up. Moore’s style and results is a contributing factor. Fans are the lifeblood of the club. And Tuesday night told us all what a good amount think of the current state of play. I was there til the end. But can I blame anyone for not going or staying til the end? Nope. I can’t remember a league game where so few remained at the final whistle. My hope is similar to under Carlos when he has no cards to play. Eventually he got players fit and found a formation. Time will tell. But I’m defo not a fan of sacking managers time after time and then saying “wait till they get their players in” Carlos actually started reasonably well at town and then injuries hit a very paperthin squad and we dipped. It’s important to note that Carlos and moore are completely different characters. Under corberan you could see a game plan, you could see players being trained to play a certain way and knowing what to do. At times, it was clear that many of the players we had struggled to play the way he wanted us to, but many of the fans wanted to stick by him because they could see a positive direction (I remember a similar poll and it was on here for a good while, and there was always more in favour of him staying). Contrast this with Moore, where the vast majority want him gone and it’s unsurprising as we look like we are going backwards with nothing on the pitch to suggest that a turn in fortunes is around the corner.,
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Post by turbo2 on Dec 17, 2023 22:44:09 GMT 1
Fans are the lifeblood of the club. And Tuesday night told us all what a good amount think of the current state of play. I was there til the end. But can I blame anyone for not going or staying til the end? Nope. I can’t remember a league game where so few remained at the final whistle. My hope is similar to under Carlos when he has no cards to play. Eventually he got players fit and found a formation. Time will tell. But I’m defo not a fan of sacking managers time after time and then saying “wait till they get their players in” Carlos actually started reasonably well at town and then injuries hit a very paperthin squad and we dipped. It’s important to note that Carlos and moore are completely different characters. Under corberan you could see a game plan, you could see players being trained to play a certain way and knowing what to do. At times, it was clear that many of the players we had struggled to play the way he wanted us to, but many of the fans wanted to stick by him because they could see a positive direction (I remember a similar poll and it was on here for a good while, and there was always more in favour of him staying). Contrast this with Moore, where the vast majority want him gone and it’s unsurprising as we look like we are going backwards with nothing on the pitch to suggest that a turn in fortunes is around the corner., I don’t disagree. But many fans opposed to his appointment are purely because of Warnock imho. And I’m not backing DM. We’ve been bloody awful most of the time under him
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Post by pterrier on Dec 17, 2023 22:49:58 GMT 1
Carlos actually started reasonably well at town and then injuries hit a very paperthin squad and we dipped. It’s important to note that Carlos and moore are completely different characters. Under corberan you could see a game plan, you could see players being trained to play a certain way and knowing what to do. At times, it was clear that many of the players we had struggled to play the way he wanted us to, but many of the fans wanted to stick by him because they could see a positive direction (I remember a similar poll and it was on here for a good while, and there was always more in favour of him staying). Contrast this with Moore, where the vast majority want him gone and it’s unsurprising as we look like we are going backwards with nothing on the pitch to suggest that a turn in fortunes is around the corner., I don’t disagree. But many fans opposed to his appointment are purely because of Warnock imho. And I’m not backing DM. We’ve been bloody awful most of the time under him Fair enough. In terms of Warnock, I can see why the club wanted rid (if rumours of him being on the take are true) and I don’t blame them for appointing Moore, on paper it wasn’t a bad call. Sadly, the reality is smacking us in the face and I think most of know it’s going to end one way. For me, fast-forward the inevitable and give us a better chance of staying up by accepting that it isn’t working.
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Post by rab030 on Dec 17, 2023 22:52:14 GMT 1
The fans on here are not representative of the fan base. TBF Could you please explain how and why you reach that conclusion. It's an easy thing to say. Do you think the thousands of season ticket holder's empty seats last Tuesday were not representative of the fanbase either? I agree that some fans have decided to vote with their feet but poor attendance midweek in December happens every year. It’s Xmas and people have other priorities/commitments/etc. It was also available to watch on Sky. A better benchmark will be the home game on Boxing Day.
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