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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Dec 22, 2023 16:34:37 GMT 1
The fact that this thread has managed just two pages 24 hours before ko must say something about the underlying level of interest in the team at the moment - or is everyone out doing late Christmas shopping? Think you've hig the nail on the head there mate, interest in the club, after years of dirge, is at an all time low. I'll caveat that with since the move yto the stadium. Think fans have had an absolute belly full of the club.
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Post by 28901 on Dec 22, 2023 17:15:24 GMT 1
The fact that this thread has managed just two pages 24 hours before ko must say something about the underlying level of interest in the team at the moment - or is everyone out doing late Christmas shopping? Think you've hig the nail on the head there mate, interest in the club, after years of dirge, is at an all time low. I'll caveat that with since the move yto the stadium. Think fans have had an absolute belly full of the club. It is everyone I know. Just no enthusiasm, little interest and many have given up altogether. These aren't fans from the PL era, they've been going since the Buxton era and further in some cases. The club aren't going to get them back. Every home match I look at the SSL and its thinner and thinner in numbers, quieter and quieter. It was a terrific innovation and had the while stadium rocking. Its a sorry state of affairs and the
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Post by dezzly on Dec 22, 2023 17:49:27 GMT 1
I’ll try stoke some interest although tbf I’m in the same boat to a large extent.after presser today I’m expecting the exact same team as Saturday.Jackson been back helps in this run and would imagine he comes back in at some point.probably forces a change of shape though from 3-5-2 to probably 3-4-3 but that’s for another day. Weirdly tomorrow I don’t see the draw,I either think we nick it 1-0 or get blown away by 4!
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Post by Melc on Dec 22, 2023 17:57:28 GMT 1
Think you've hig the nail on the head there mate, interest in the club, after years of dirge, is at an all time low. I'll caveat that with since the move yto the stadium. Think fans have had an absolute belly full of the club. It is everyone I know. Just no enthusiasm, little interest and many have given up altogether. These aren't fans from the PL era, they've been going since the Buxton era and further in some cases. The club aren't going to get them back. Every home match I look at the SSL and its thinner and thinner in numbers, quieter and quieter. It was a terrific innovation and had the while stadium rocking. Its a sorry state of affairs and the Pity Nagle is in denial!
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Post by softboy on Dec 22, 2023 18:06:33 GMT 1
Why is he in denial. All I can see is that he has promised to grown the business by increasing income not throwing money at it and has a plan for getting to the PL. Give the guy at least until end of January but have no idea where denial comes into it.
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Post by sabailand on Dec 22, 2023 18:44:07 GMT 1
If we had a genuinely good side and were top two going for automatic then crowds would be in the teens every home game, fans will go watch winning teams wether its premeier league or conference, things arem't very inspiring at the moment so interest wanes, its that simple.
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Post by Melc on Dec 22, 2023 18:59:57 GMT 1
Why is he in denial. All I can see is that he has promised to grown the business by increasing income not throwing money at it and has a plan for getting to the PL. Give the guy at least until end of January but have no idea where denial comes into it. Yes your are right, I used the wrong word there.
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Post by lossiemouthtownfan on Dec 22, 2023 19:07:45 GMT 1
If we had a genuinely good side and were top two going for automatic crowds would be in the teens every home hane, fans will go watch winning teams wether its premeier league or conference, things arem't very inspiring at the moment so interest wanes, its that simple. Very true. The football could be crap, but as long as the team is winning they will turn up.
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Post by tyldesleyterrier on Dec 22, 2023 19:39:01 GMT 1
OH NO THEY WON'T !!!!!
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Post by 28901 on Dec 22, 2023 20:22:31 GMT 1
If we had a genuinely good side and were top two going for automatic crowds would be in the teens every home hane, fans will go watch winning teams wether its premeier league or conference, things arem't very inspiring at the moment so interest wanes, its that simple. Very true. The football could be crap, but as long as the team is winning they will turn up. It wasn't the case under Corberan. Crowds were better than now, but it wasn't great, nothing like Wagner promotion season.
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Post by willo on Dec 22, 2023 20:30:37 GMT 1
Harsh.. The kaiser totally revolutionised our club.. Took us from perpetual mediocrity into a premier league league team in 2 years.. On a comparatively shoestring budget.. If we had had a successful transfer window in the summer of 2018 we might have still been there like Brighton., His tactical nous and energy was a breath of fresh air at the time but has now been copied and replicated by numerous managers.. Maybe it was just a moment in time 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️ Still would swap him for Moore in a heartbeat.. 🍻 I think that's just what it was, a moment in time, a perfect storm, a fluke, whatever you want to call it. He has done absolutely nothing since he left Town. There are plenty of managers you could level that at tbf.
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Post by stinkypete on Dec 22, 2023 20:55:54 GMT 1
Genuinely forgot we were playing tomorrow! 3-0 Norwich.
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Post by conman on Dec 22, 2023 21:06:26 GMT 1
I’ll try stoke some interest although tbf I’m in the same boat to a large extent.after presser today I’m expecting the exact same team as Saturday.Jackson been back helps in this run and would imagine he comes back in at some point.probably forces a change of shape though from 3-5-2 to probably 3-4-3 but that’s for another day. Weirdly tomorrow I don’t see the draw,I either think we nick it 1-0 or get blown away by 4! Totally agree with you there . I was going to say a sneaky 1-0 win or a 4/5/6-0 thrashing..
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Dec 22, 2023 22:10:53 GMT 1
I think that's just what it was, a moment in time, a perfect storm, a fluke, whatever you want to call it. He has done absolutely nothing since he left Town. There are plenty of managers you could level that at tbf. There is, but none of them are held in such high regard by Town fans.
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Post by ColchTerrier on Dec 22, 2023 23:14:35 GMT 1
5 of us going.... ....if Moore gets the boot. If not, day in the pub it is. Don't get too pissed Pub it is, gutted to be missing this but the football is dire which means we won’t give any atmosphere at all. Watch us win now…. So annoying because they are 100% beatable, the fans are against Wagner and co, if we go there and give it a really good go we can come away with the 3pts. But that is the same as Millwall and we got lucky there. It’s just so ‘meh’ at the moment and I hate it!
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Post by drumriggend on Dec 22, 2023 23:25:56 GMT 1
I think that's just what it was, a moment in time, a perfect storm, a fluke, whatever you want to call it. He has done absolutely nothing since he left Town. Careful, he'll be calling you a "koont" for having such an opinion. Seriously.. How do you block a poster?? I’ve tried on multiple occasions.. Can someone please save me from this sanctimonious know all
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Post by willo on Dec 23, 2023 1:39:49 GMT 1
There are plenty of managers you could level that at tbf. There is, but none of them are held in such high regard by Town fans. Wagner came in for us and did the unthinkable to most, got us promoted to the PL. There are other clubs out there with their own Wagner who achieved similar almost unbelievable feats who will be held in high regard (almost revered) by those fans. Wagner will arguably be once in a lifetime to many Town fans. Why it hasn’t worked for him anywhere else remains a mystery.
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Post by Tinpot on Dec 23, 2023 3:23:49 GMT 1
Even when we're not shit we always get bummed in the gob at Carrow Road. No silly yellow or red cards is about the most optimistic I can be about this one. Can you get bummed in the gob? Unless your a contortionist I find that hard to swallow ! Get yourself to Carrow Road tomorrow. You'll witness it first hand
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Post by htfcterry on Dec 23, 2023 6:33:05 GMT 1
Don't get too pissed Pub it is, gutted to be missing this but the football is dire which means we won’t give any atmosphere at all. Watch us win now…. So annoying because they are 100% beatable, the fans are against Wagner and co, if we go there and give it a really good go we can come away with the 3pts. But that is the same as Millwall and we got lucky there. It’s just so ‘meh’ at the moment and I hate it! This is what annoys me. It’s a complete free hit, but we will be cautious and defensive again and try get a 0-0. The teams below us all have hard games so it is a game we should be going for.
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Post by belizian on Dec 23, 2023 7:46:30 GMT 1
Nicholls missing for the next couple of weeks won't help. Keepers used to play with broken necks in the old days. I would not be surprised if he never plays for us again and goes on to better things in Jan.
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Post by durhamterrier on Dec 23, 2023 8:08:40 GMT 1
Really poor hunting ground for us over recent years but Wagner teams notoriously struggle against opponents that set up like Moore has done for many away games.
Norwich aren’t the team we thought they were when they did us 4-0 back in August and do have a really soft underbelly - but will score for fun.
My team would be the below . I know it’s four central midfielders across the midfield but I look at Kasumu Wiles and Rudoni as relatively versatile and can easily fill in for Thomas and Headley pushing on , go narrow if needed but also cover overlapping full backs.
That also gives Burgzorg , Koroma , Diarra (maybe!) to come on if the games tight .
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If I’m honest I think it’s going to be a tough ask and fully expect 2/3-0 with Ashley Barnes dominating .
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Dec 23, 2023 8:52:46 GMT 1
There is, but none of them are held in such high regard by Town fans. Wagner came in for us and did the unthinkable to most, got us promoted to the PL. There are other clubs out there with their own Wagner who achieved similar almost unbelievable feats who will be held in high regard (almost revered) by those fans. Wagner will arguably be once in a lifetime to many Town fans. Why it hasn’t worked for him anywhere else remains a mystery. You'd have to deduce and make the assumption that, as a manager, he is lacking in ability. I do think promotion at Town was a perfect storm, just as Luton's was and no doubt should they be relegated, they will do what we have done since relegation, flirt with further relegation.
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 23, 2023 9:06:32 GMT 1
Think Wagner's promotion at Town clouds a lot of Town fans judgement on his true managerial abilities, he us currently presiding over inconsistency and mediocrity with a Norwich squad that should probably be top 2 in comparison to where they are now. The promotion buys him a lot of credit but as a manager in general he isn't up to much. He was fantastic for the first two years here, but after that I think he lost it. He's not done anything at Schalke, Young Boys and Norwich subsequently. While he would be a better option than Moore, he isn't the answer. Robert Wagner would be a better option than Moore
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Post by ambryboy on Dec 23, 2023 9:43:55 GMT 1
He was fantastic for the first two years here, but after that I think he lost it. He's not done anything at Schalke, Young Boys and Norwich subsequently. While he would be a better option than Moore, he isn't the answer. Robert Wagner would be a better option than Moore Even Lindsay would do better, but then again she was bionic.
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Post by workshyfop on Dec 23, 2023 9:52:43 GMT 1
In the unlikely event of Town ever getting to the Premier League again, anyone going today should be top of the ticket priority list. Terrible football, little chance of a result, long journey, cold weather, two days before Christmas. Fair play lads and lasses, huge respect. 👏🏻
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Post by terriersyndrome on Dec 23, 2023 10:07:11 GMT 1
Safe journey to the fans travelling to this one. Stupid fixture two days before Christmas. Hope the lads reward you all with 3 points.
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Post by irverino on Dec 23, 2023 10:17:18 GMT 1
In the unlikely event of Town ever getting to the Premier League again, anyone going today should be top of the ticket priority list. Terrible football, little chance of a result, long journey, cold weather, two days before Christmas. Fair play lads and lasses, huge respect. 👏🏻 EFL/FA know the transport situation so close to Xmas, some of the journeys fans are asked to make today are unnecessary & avoidable, but its improved slightly from the return Xmas/Boxing day fixtures of years ago to London/South Wales........My great Aunt married to a Town fanatic was not impressed & usually had to go to with my uncle otherwise she wouldn't get to see him on Xmas day.
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Post by bogart on Dec 23, 2023 10:50:23 GMT 1
First championship game ever for this referee. Probably shit himself and give Norwich everything. Nprwich website now say ref is Whitestone.
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Post by lossiemouthtownfan on Dec 23, 2023 10:57:14 GMT 1
Just been offshore with a Norwich Season Ticket holder so messaged him yesterday. He's says their rubbish at the moment and expects us to get at least a point. I just said what until you see us if you think you are rubbish🥴
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Dec 23, 2023 11:01:03 GMT 1
Safe journey to the fans travelling to this one. Stupid fixture two days before Christmas. Hope the lads reward you all with 3 points. In fairness, most teams visiting Norwich have a bit of a trek, a la Plymouth and to some degree Carlisle. Having said that, why was the tractor derby played a few days ago instead of Boxing Day? Why aren’t we playing Leeds, Wed or Rotherham over the break? I bet Sky and the EFL can’t believe their luck that Leicester v Ipswich popped up on Boxing Day. Imagine yrs down the line, when TV has an even bigger stranglehold, and the fixtures are announced every couple of months or so…
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