Grealish

[bogart]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-67834890

Couple of weeks wages.

A search was carried out, supported by police dogs and a helicopter, but officers did not find any suspects.

Lucky if most folks get a copper to turn up never mind a helicopter.

[Orinoco]

Dec 29, 2023 16:39:45 GMT 1 bogart said:

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Couple of weeks wages.

A search was carried out, supported by police dogs and a helicopter, but officers did not find any suspects.

Lucky if most folks get a copper to turn up never mind a helicopter.

Jewellery and watches worth a million, says it all.

[rockwall]

Dec 29, 2023 16:39:45 GMT 1 bogart said:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-67834890

Couple of weeks wages.

A search was carried out, supported by police dogs and a helicopter, but officers did not find any suspects.

Lucky if most folks get a copper to turn up never mind a helicopter.

My thoughts exactly.
Don't get me wrong, it's not nice for him and his family; but the treatment they recieve is a piss take.

Grandma's house got broken into earlier this year, because only 2 things went missing, they said itl be too hard to locate them and nothing they could do.

[Sio]

Dec 29, 2023 20:42:20 GMT 1 rockwall said:

Dec 29, 2023 16:39:45 GMT 1 bogart said:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-67834890

Couple of weeks wages.

A search was carried out, supported by police dogs and a helicopter, but officers did not find any suspects.

Lucky if most folks get a copper to turn up never mind a helicopter.

My thoughts exactly.
Don't get me wrong, it's not nice for him and his family; but the treatment they recieve is a piss take.

Grandma's house got broken into earlier this year, because only 2 things went missing, they said itl be too hard to locate them and nothing they could do.

I'm sure there's some victim bias going on but surely the bigger purpose is attempting to trace someone who has the ability to pull off a high profile, high value robbery?

Minor thefts will take place every day but someone who can attempt something like this could be connected to a wider group etc, and therefore a more advantageous arrest.

[FloridaTerrier]

Dec 29, 2023 20:41:46 GMT 1 Orinoco said:

Dec 29, 2023 16:39:45 GMT 1 bogart said:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-67834890

Couple of weeks wages.

A search was carried out, supported by police dogs and a helicopter, but officers did not find any suspects.

Lucky if most folks get a copper to turn up never mind a helicopter.

Jewellery and watches worth a million, says it all.

As much as this is far from what the average Joe so to speak can ever obtain. I never truly get when folk say couple of weeks wages or its costs says it all.

As much as i'm sure they have heavy price tags, some will im sure have sentimental value. I am hoping he has insurance on them. I have watch insurance, but if any of my watches were to be stolen, I'd be beyond pissed and upset.

o

[digs]

Dec 29, 2023 23:07:35 GMT 1 FloridaTerrier said:

Dec 29, 2023 20:41:46 GMT 1 Orinoco said:

Jewellery and watches worth a million, says it all.

As much as this is far from what the average Joe so to speak can ever obtain. I never truly get when folk say couple of weeks wages or its costs says it all.

As much as i'm sure they have heavy price tags, some will im sure have sentimental value. I am hoping he has insurance on them. I have watch insurance, but if any of my watches were to be stolen, I'd be beyond pissed and upset.

o

I'd expect someone living in a mansion would have a safe,wouldn't sentimental items be better locked away,be a good idea to leave a few expensive peices out though so the burglars find it easy then leave quicker,less chance of harming the family,I'm sure his agent or whoever will have insurance covered too

[Terrier Ramone]

To be fair, one of the worst things about being burgled, at least for me, was that someone uninvited has been in your home, trespassed in your personal safe space, they were truly horrible feelings. Insurance is fine but if you lose sentimental pieces they are irreplaceable.

[henryc]

Dec 29, 2023 21:48:53 GMT 1 Sio said:

Dec 29, 2023 20:42:20 GMT 1 rockwall said:

My thoughts exactly.
Don't get me wrong, it's not nice for him and his family; but the treatment they recieve is a piss take.

Grandma's house got broken into earlier this year, because only 2 things went missing, they said itl be too hard to locate them and nothing they could do.

I'm sure there's some victim bias going on but surely the bigger purpose is attempting to trace someone who has the ability to pull off a high profile, high value robbery?

Minor thefts will take place every day but someone who can attempt something like this could be connected to a wider group etc, and therefore a more advantageous arrest.

I can only presume that you’ve never been broken into before, it’s the vulnerability to your family that’s terrifying.
When it happened to me I didn’t even realise some things were missing until weeks later.
It sums this country up perfectly, unless you’re a high profile person or very wealthy the police couldn’t careless.

[Sio]

Dec 30, 2023 13:19:55 GMT 1 henryc said:

Dec 29, 2023 21:48:53 GMT 1 Sio said:

I'm sure there's some victim bias going on but surely the bigger purpose is attempting to trace someone who has the ability to pull off a high profile, high value robbery?

Minor thefts will take place every day but someone who can attempt something like this could be connected to a wider group etc, and therefore a more advantageous arrest.

I can only presume that you’ve never been broken into before, it’s the vulnerability to your family that’s terrifying.
When it happened to me I didn’t even realise some things were missing until weeks later.
It sums this country up perfectly, unless you’re a high profile person or very wealthy the police couldn’t careless.

I've not made any reference to how it makes anyone feel - has nothing to do with my point.  

Unfortunately, the police cannot trace every single theft that will take place on any given night across the country. If they have the chance to track someone who has just stolen millions of pounds worth of material then they're probably well connected and worth their time in tracking. 

[willo]

My advice is get a big dog. Whilst I wouldn’t say the old bill aren’t interested, they don’t have the resources and you’re just another statistic to them. They’ll give you a crime reference number for the insurance company but that aside, virtually nothing. The more you can do to protect your own property, the better. Been like it for some time now and likely won’t improve.

[ritchie]

Dec 29, 2023 21:48:53 GMT 1 Sio said:

Dec 29, 2023 20:42:20 GMT 1 rockwall said:

My thoughts exactly.
Don't get me wrong, it's not nice for him and his family; but the treatment they recieve is a piss take.

Grandma's house got broken into earlier this year, because only 2 things went missing, they said itl be too hard to locate them and nothing they could do.

I'm sure there's some victim bias going on but surely the bigger purpose is attempting to trace someone who has the ability to pull off a high profile, high value robbery?

Minor thefts will take place every day but someone who can attempt something like this could be connected to a wider group etc, and therefore a more advantageous arrest.

Not to mention the large quantity of money gained by the criminals will be bent money, likely going directly back in to crime.

[uptownfunk]

Watches and jewellery worth £1M is obscene wealth. Children starving and you’ve got a £1M lying about in pointless shit?? Tbh it’s better in the criminals hands, probably some of the £1M will end up feeding someone’s kids who’ve got nowt.. better that than sat on Grealish’s table.

[htfcterry]

Dec 31, 2023 4:57:42 GMT 1 uptownfunk said:

Watches and jewellery worth £1M is obscene wealth. Children starving and you’ve got a £1M lying about in pointless shit?? Tbh it’s better in the criminals hands, probably some of the £1M will end up feeding someone’s kids who’ve got nowt.. better that than sat on Grealish’s table.

That’s a ridiculous view point. The lad earns well, so can do what he wants with his money and fair play to him.

For what it’s worth, a simple Google search would display a long list of generous charity donations he has made over the past few years also.

[Teddington Ted]

Dec 31, 2023 4:57:42 GMT 1 uptownfunk said:

Watches and jewellery worth £1M is obscene wealth. Children starving and you’ve got a £1M lying about in pointless shit?? Tbh it’s better in the criminals hands, probably some of the £1M will end up feeding someone’s kids who’ve got nowt.. better that than sat on Grealish’s table.

I love it! Who do you think burgled him, Robin Hood?

The folk who did this will be gangland pieces of shit who will use any funds gained for more criminality.

When the IRA ran protection rackets on their ‘own’ people, do you think it was to fund the local orphanage? That money bought guns, explosives and training to reap carnage and death. The same goes in the majority of high end burglary. It’s not some ‘honest blagger’ sat at home with a bit of jewellery to try pawn. It’s serious, organised criminals who will have connections with all manner of heinous activities that bring untold misery to many.



That’s why the police take it ‘more seriously’. Horrible as it may seem, Granny’s ring will go straight up a shitbag’s nose the minute he can turn it into a bag of drugs. With the government fucking the police up for years, they probably need to prioritise their resources. Sadly, that means the local skagheads don’t always feature on their most wanted lists.

[joeyjoneslocker]

Dec 31, 2023 4:57:42 GMT 1 uptownfunk said:

Watches and jewellery worth £1M is obscene wealth. Children starving and you’ve got a £1M lying about in pointless shit?? Tbh it’s better in the criminals hands, probably some of the £1M will end up feeding someone’s kids who’ve got nowt.. better that than sat on Grealish’s table.

What a really strange take 

[bogart]

Dec 29, 2023 20:42:20 GMT 1 rockwall said:

Dec 29, 2023 16:39:45 GMT 1 bogart said:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-67834890

Couple of weeks wages.

A search was carried out, supported by police dogs and a helicopter, but officers did not find any suspects.

Lucky if most folks get a copper to turn up never mind a helicopter.

My thoughts exactly.
Don't get me wrong, it's not nice for him and his family; but the treatment they recieve is a piss take.

Grandma's house got broken into earlier this year, because only 2 things went missing, they said itl be too hard to locate them and nothing they could do.

Should not matter at all if it is a granny or a multi millionaire. Both had private space violated and should be treated similarly.

[bogart]

'probably some of the £1M will end up feeding someone’s kids who’ve got nowt'

Obviously you have started New Years drinking already.

[royrace]

It's obscene of course, but not his fault, it's the state of the game that has ended up paying these players wages that mean spending 50k on a watch is literally like pocket change.

What I would say is that if I had a million quids worth of jewellery in the house I'd have a security system to match. He obviously didn't.

[uptownfunk]

Dec 31, 2023 10:39:18 GMT 1 joeyjoneslocker said:

Dec 31, 2023 4:57:42 GMT 1 uptownfunk said:

Watches and jewellery worth £1M is obscene wealth. Children starving and you’ve got a £1M lying about in pointless shit?? Tbh it’s better in the criminals hands, probably some of the £1M will end up feeding someone’s kids who’ve got nowt.. better that than sat on Grealish’s table.

What a really strange take 

The only harm caused is the distress to his family - but why would anyone put their family at risk by advertising million pound watches and jewellery in Hello magazine etc then leaving them at home when the country knows you’re not at home- for burglars to go at them. We’ve seen it recently with the racing cyclist bloke who had 2 £400k watches stolen. A £400k watch?

If you go around flashing that sort of cash someone in this world is gonna come and take it off you. If you leave your wife and kids at home with £1M don’t be shocked if you get burgled.

I’m not saying they deserve it but instead of replacing all their pointless shit why not put it to better use to help someone less fortunate. If I was Grealish instead of £1M jewellery I’d build an indoor football camp in inner city Birmingham. The government never will- they’re closing leisure centres every week. That could create a legacy for young people in impoverished inner City brum for decades. It would cost the same to run for years as a couple of his watches/wife’s rings which they don’t need.

Someone needs to educate or better still massively tax earnings over £500k per annum. Young dumb kids having and spending this sort of money while there are kids starving - and that’s in UK is just everything that’s wrong with society.

[uptownfunk]

Dec 31, 2023 10:52:12 GMT 1 bogart said:

'probably some of the £1M will end up feeding someone’s kids who’ve got nowt'

Obviously you have started New Years drinking already.

Some of the proceeds from this theft will filter down as pay for someone and someone will end up feeding their kids off the back of it. If one child eats then it’s a better use that it telling Grealish the time for £1M.

Maybe instead of wasting police resources he could make a donation to local services? I won’t hold my breath.

[uptownfunk]

Dec 31, 2023 10:39:18 GMT 1 joeyjoneslocker said:

Dec 31, 2023 4:57:42 GMT 1 uptownfunk said:

Watches and jewellery worth £1M is obscene wealth. Children starving and you’ve got a £1M lying about in pointless shit?? Tbh it’s better in the criminals hands, probably some of the £1M will end up feeding someone’s kids who’ve got nowt.. better that than sat on Grealish’s table.

What a really strange take 

What’s strange about it? It’s a mechanism of society to help redistribution of income in a country which doesn’t have an effective system doing so.

Similarly we’ve seen a big rise in shoplifting because people cannot afford to feed their families. When societal systems break down crime increases to fill the gaps.

[uptownfunk]

Dec 31, 2023 10:49:58 GMT 1 bogart said:

Dec 29, 2023 20:42:20 GMT 1 rockwall said:

My thoughts exactly.
Don't get me wrong, it's not nice for him and his family; but the treatment they recieve is a piss take.

Grandma's house got broken into earlier this year, because only 2 things went missing, they said itl be too hard to locate them and nothing they could do.

Should not matter at all if it is a granny or a multi millionaire. Both had private space violated and should be treated similarly.

That’s not reality though is it. Your gran didn’t matter as she had no money. The millionaire moron footballer has had thousands and thousands of public resources thrown at a crime they’ve largely brought on themselves by flashing crazy money and having inadequate security. He’s got Joe tax payer paying for his lack of spending securing his obscene wealth. Why the fuck are we paying for that

[uptownfunk]

Dec 31, 2023 9:29:06 GMT 1 Teddington Ted said:

Dec 31, 2023 4:57:42 GMT 1 uptownfunk said:

Watches and jewellery worth £1M is obscene wealth. Children starving and you’ve got a £1M lying about in pointless shit?? Tbh it’s better in the criminals hands, probably some of the £1M will end up feeding someone’s kids who’ve got nowt.. better that than sat on Grealish’s table.

I love it! Who do you think burgled him, Robin Hood?

The folk who did this will be gangland pieces of shit who will use any funds gained for more criminality.

When the IRA ran protection rackets on their ‘own’ people, do you think it was to fund the local orphanage? That money bought guns, explosives and training to reap carnage and death. The same goes in the majority of high end burglary. It’s not some ‘honest blagger’ sat at home with a bit of jewellery to try pawn. It’s serious, organised criminals who will have connections with all manner of heinous activities that bring untold misery to many.



That’s why the police take it ‘more seriously’. Horrible as it may seem, Granny’s ring will go straight up a shitbag’s nose the minute he can turn it into a bag of drugs. With the government fucking the police up for years, they probably need to prioritise their resources. Sadly, that means the local skagheads don’t always feature on their most wanted lists.

What a load of wild conjecture. You’ve been watching the detectives too much. We don’t know it’s an organised crime gang (OCG). Could be an individual(s) or even an opportunist.

Even if it is an OCG who is paying their minions? Proceeds of the sale is. No idea why you’re bringing up the IRA. Loyalist paramilitaries carried out heanous murders and complex fraud to fund their killing sprees. But both groups weren’t thieves as such. They had political motivations whatever your stance on the troubles.

If these high profile burglaries mean these jelly brain footballers start paying for their own security instead of their own private police enquiry with helicopters or even better spend their obscene wealth god forbid on helping others, then it’ll have served a purpose.

[joeyjoneslocker]

I’d stop posting on this subject, you are just making yourself look more ridiculous with each post.

[sabailand]

Occasionally you see a news item where the thief has been caught in the act and got the hiding of their life, and in some circumstances even killed, stories like that fair warm the cockles of my heart.

[henryc]

Dec 31, 2023 12:43:55 GMT 1 uptownfunk said:

Dec 31, 2023 10:39:18 GMT 1 joeyjoneslocker said:

What a really strange take 

The only harm caused is the distress to his family - but why would anyone put their family at risk by advertising million pound watches and jewellery in Hello magazine etc then leaving them at home when the country knows you’re not at home- for burglars to go at them. We’ve seen it recently with the racing cyclist bloke who had 2 £400k watches stolen. A £400k watch?

If you go around flashing that sort of cash someone in this world is gonna come and take it off you. If you leave your wife and kids at home with £1M don’t be shocked if you get burgled.

I’m not saying they deserve it but instead of replacing all their pointless shit why not put it to better use to help someone less fortunate. If I was Grealish instead of £1M jewellery I’d build an indoor football camp in inner city Birmingham. The government never will- they’re closing leisure centres every week. That could create a legacy for young people in impoverished inner City brum for decades. It would cost the same to run for years as a couple of his watches/wife’s rings which they don’t need.

Someone needs to educate or better still massively tax earnings over £500k per annum. Young dumb kids having and spending this sort of money while there are kids starving - and that’s in UK is just everything that’s wrong with society.

It’s actually footballers and the like that already take a huge burden of tax, isn’t it somehow like 50%?

It always gets me when people complain about this when it’s those that are a lot wealthier that avoid paying tax like your Bernie Ecclestone/ Nadhim Zahawis. Close the tax loopholes and make the billionaires pay the maximum like footballers ( not the 7% average they currently do).

[Teddington Ted]

Saying people who flaunt their wealth deserve robbing is a bit like saying those who flaunt their beauty deserve sexually assaulting.

Nothing worse than blaming the victims for the wrongs carried out against them.

[Teddington Ted]

I’ll add that I’m an ugly bastard without a pot to piss in.

[workshyfop]

Not sure why people are having a pop at Grealish himself. All footballers are paid too much and only the coldest of hearts would argue that, say, nurses aren’t underpaid. But, as a bloke, he comes across as one of the good guys. Always seems to have time for people and goes out of his way to help out others.

[pterrier]

Dec 30, 2023 12:05:29 GMT 1 Terrier Ramone said:

To be fair, one of the worst things about being burgled, at least for me, was that someone uninvited has been in your home, trespassed in your personal safe space, they were truly horrible feelings. Insurance is fine but if you lose sentimental pieces they are irreplaceable.

I remember u posting a good few years back about your experience, didn’t they have the audacity to take a dump as well? Forgive me if I’m wrong.

I’ve been burgled twice, police are completely incompetent and can’t be bothered with the paperwork half the time.