Grealish

[Porrohman]

Dec 31, 2023 13:10:22 GMT 1 joeyjoneslocker said:

I’d stop posting on this subject, you are just making yourself look more ridiculous with each post.

Just looks like he's massively jealous of Jack Grealish 🤷

[Terrier Ramone]

Dec 31, 2023 14:04:47 GMT 1 pterrier said:

Dec 30, 2023 12:05:29 GMT 1 Terrier Ramone said:

To be fair, one of the worst things about being burgled, at least for me, was that someone uninvited has been in your home, trespassed in your personal safe space, they were truly horrible feelings. Insurance is fine but if you lose sentimental pieces they are irreplaceable.

I remember u posting a good few years back about your experience, didn’t they have the audacity to take a dump as well? Forgive me if I’m wrong.

I’ve been burgled twice, police are completely incompetent and can’t be bothered with the paperwork half the time.

Yeah,that's some memory you have, I've been burgled 4 times, & once they did take a dump (I told the police they must have had a dog with them, they told me how common it was).

I've also had a window shot at with an air rifle & the police said it wasn't worth coming out for but they'd give me a crime number for insurance purposes.

The morale of this story, kids, is don't live in Bradford.

[Detective Boyle]

Dec 31, 2023 4:57:42 GMT 1 uptownfunk said:

Watches and jewellery worth £1M is obscene wealth. Children starving and you’ve got a £1M lying about in pointless shit?? Tbh it’s better in the criminals hands, probably some of the £1M will end up feeding someone’s kids who’ve got nowt.. better that than sat on Grealish’s table.

You sound like one of the sorts that excuse people rioting and looting stores. Don’t mind him walking out with the 55inch plasma, he’s trying to feed his family.

[sabailand]

Dec 31, 2023 13:54:11 GMT 1 Teddington Ted said:

Saying people who flaunt their wealth deserve robbing is a bit like saying those who flaunt their beauty deserve sexually assaulting.

Nothing worse than blaming the victims for the wrongs carried out against them.

Sometimes you hear they desreved it, no they didnt, anubody who hasn't done anything wrong dosnt deserve to be a victim, possibly careless but certainly not deserving however well off you are.

[uptownfunk]

Dec 31, 2023 13:37:45 GMT 1 henryc said:

Dec 31, 2023 12:43:55 GMT 1 uptownfunk said:

The only harm caused is the distress to his family - but why would anyone put their family at risk by advertising million pound watches and jewellery in Hello magazine etc then leaving them at home when the country knows you’re not at home- for burglars to go at them. We’ve seen it recently with the racing cyclist bloke who had 2 £400k watches stolen. A £400k watch?

If you go around flashing that sort of cash someone in this world is gonna come and take it off you. If you leave your wife and kids at home with £1M don’t be shocked if you get burgled.

I’m not saying they deserve it but instead of replacing all their pointless shit why not put it to better use to help someone less fortunate. If I was Grealish instead of £1M jewellery I’d build an indoor football camp in inner city Birmingham. The government never will- they’re closing leisure centres every week. That could create a legacy for young people in impoverished inner City brum for decades. It would cost the same to run for years as a couple of his watches/wife’s rings which they don’t need.

Someone needs to educate or better still massively tax earnings over £500k per annum. Young dumb kids having and spending this sort of money while there are kids starving - and that’s in UK is just everything that’s wrong with society.

It’s actually footballers and the like that already take a huge burden of tax, isn’t it somehow like 50%?

It always gets me when people complain about this when it’s those that are a lot wealthier that avoid paying tax like your Bernie Ecclestone/ Nadhim Zahawis. Close the tax loopholes and make the billionaires pay the maximum like footballers ( not the 7% average they currently do).

Agree wholeheartedly but a society that pays young men £10k an hour to run around (a lot are not even grafter footballers) there’s a major problem in that society.

[uptownfunk]

Dec 31, 2023 13:58:42 GMT 1 workshyfop said:

Not sure why people are having a pop at Grealish himself. All footballers are paid too much and only the coldest of hearts would argue that, say, nurses aren’t underpaid. But, as a bloke, he comes across as one of the good guys. Always seems to have time for people and goes out of his way to help out others.

He doesn’t help anyone out though does he. He just spends millions on jewellery and has massive police resources to get them back.

[uptownfunk]

Dec 31, 2023 13:10:22 GMT 1 joeyjoneslocker said:

I’d stop posting on this subject, you are just making yourself look more ridiculous with each post.

Couldn’t give a fuck what you think pal. Your view of what’s ridiculous or isn’t is completely worthless and irrelevant.

[uptownfunk]

Dec 31, 2023 13:54:11 GMT 1 Teddington Ted said:

Saying people who flaunt their wealth deserve robbing is a bit like saying those who flaunt their beauty deserve sexually assaulting.

Nothing worse than blaming the victims for the wrongs carried out against them.

Another ridiculous post with a really bizarre irrelevant analogy. You brought the IRA into this debate last time now it’s sexual assault. What the fuck are you on about.

People who show off multi million pound jewellery in the media are advertising themselves as targets like the cyclist did. Doesn’t mean they deserve it, but it’s more likely to happen.

Why don’t you try reading what I’ve said instead of making your own blithe assumptions. Or just ignore them, or just post whatever you want to post yourself.

[workshyfop]

Dec 31, 2023 15:09:34 GMT 1 uptownfunk said:

Dec 31, 2023 13:58:42 GMT 1 workshyfop said:

Not sure why people are having a pop at Grealish himself. All footballers are paid too much and only the coldest of hearts would argue that, say, nurses aren’t underpaid. But, as a bloke, he comes across as one of the good guys. Always seems to have time for people and goes out of his way to help out others.

He doesn’t help anyone out though does he. He just spends millions on jewellery and has massive police resources to get them back.

I’m pretty sure he’s done a lot of good stuff for charity both in terms of giving his time and donating plenty of money (I think his sister has cerebral palsy). I know charity is “a cold, grey loveless thing. If a rich man wants to help the poor, he should pay his taxes gladly, not dole out money at a whim.” But, he seems a decent enough bloke in general (compared to some of his peers anyway).

[themanfromatlantis]

Burglary involving high net worth individuals is an interesting one. I’ve no doubt these people are well insured and also have decent security on their properties. If a thief knows there are likely to be high value items they’ll always target these sort of places, irrespective of security. (maybe the exception would be properties known to have on site personnel)

I’d argue that people like Grealish are fairly normal folk, but by a quirk of fate, they find themselves incredibly wealthy. Contrast that with the Ecclestones and that property belonging to the late Leic C owner, where that house had something like 400k of currency stolen. Grealish seems like a nice kid who’s fortunate enough to be riding in the first class carriage of an incredible gravy train. He seems quite tuned in to normal people, and don’t forget he has a sister with cerebral palsy, he knows only too well how shit life can be. I’m pretty sure Jack is just looking at this as ‘stuff’ and isn’t important to him in the scheme of things.

I suspect the story is media driven, rather than by the lad himself, they love this sort of story because it drives debate like this.

I also agree with the other posters on here. It must be shite knowing someone’s been rooting around all your stuff, it’s an invasion of a space 99% of us will always see as a safe haven.

[henryc]

Dec 31, 2023 15:08:20 GMT 1 uptownfunk said:

Dec 31, 2023 13:37:45 GMT 1 henryc said:

It’s actually footballers and the like that already take a huge burden of tax, isn’t it somehow like 50%?

It always gets me when people complain about this when it’s those that are a lot wealthier that avoid paying tax like your Bernie Ecclestone/ Nadhim Zahawis. Close the tax loopholes and make the billionaires pay the maximum like footballers ( not the 7% average they currently do).

Agree wholeheartedly but a society that pays young men £10k an hour to run around (a lot are not even grafter footballers) there’s a major problem in that society.

I’ve got to disagree again, most businesses take the lions share of profits while the workers are paid a pittance.
In football it’s the ones that generate it that largely earn it, my only problem is that owners are allowed to offset their losses in football to their other profitable ventures . A bit like me or you claiming tax back for losses in the bookies or a expensive car.

[htfcterry]

Dec 31, 2023 15:09:34 GMT 1 uptownfunk said:

Dec 31, 2023 13:58:42 GMT 1 workshyfop said:

Not sure why people are having a pop at Grealish himself. All footballers are paid too much and only the coldest of hearts would argue that, say, nurses aren’t underpaid. But, as a bloke, he comes across as one of the good guys. Always seems to have time for people and goes out of his way to help out others.

He doesn’t help anyone out though does he. He just spends millions on jewellery and has massive police resources to get them back.

He gave a hospital £150k during covid and a random guy £5k to get treatment for a terminal illness. Aswell as this supports children’s hospitals and hospices. You are making yourself sound a right tit on this subject.

[Teddington Ted]

We live in a world of unashamed capitalism, where even the Thatcherites of the 80s would have felt awkward at the profit and greed above all else of current days.

Directors of utility companies, water boards, train operators, private healthcare and their ilk are all fair game for taking every penny they can whilst the majority of the population suffer high bills, sewage-filled rivers and struggle to get to work on time.

A young lad who has reached the pinnacle of the game and brings joy to many is completely different.

[Wingman]

Dec 31, 2023 15:11:21 GMT 1 uptownfunk said:

Dec 31, 2023 13:10:22 GMT 1 joeyjoneslocker said:

I’d stop posting on this subject, you are just making yourself look more ridiculous with each post.

Couldn’t give a fuck what you think pal. Your view of what’s ridiculous or isn’t is completely worthless and irrelevant.

That could easily mean your opinion is irrelevant too.

As you mention, these lads are paid X to run around after a football. They don’t choose to be paid so much, they are offered it. I certainly don’t agree with players salaries and I’d even suggest a cap is reintroduced, but until fans stop paying for Sky etc, and paying £120 for an ‘authentic match shirt’ the clubs will continue to plug their money hoover up fans arse and suck out the brass.

[rockwall]

Dec 31, 2023 18:19:03 GMT 1 Wingman said:

Dec 31, 2023 15:11:21 GMT 1 uptownfunk said:

Couldn’t give a fuck what you think pal. Your view of what’s ridiculous or isn’t is completely worthless and irrelevant.

That could easily mean your opinion is irrelevant too.

As you mention, these lads are paid X to run around after a football. They don’t choose to be paid so much, they are offered it. I certainly don’t agree with players salaries and I’d even suggest a cap is reintroduced, but until fans stop paying for Sky etc, and paying £120 for an ‘authentic match shirt’ the clubs will continue to plug their money hoover up fans arse and suck out the brass.

Perfectly summed up.

[yorkterrier]

Dec 31, 2023 4:57:42 GMT 1 uptownfunk said:

Watches and jewellery worth £1M is obscene wealth. Children starving and you’ve got a £1M lying about in pointless shit?? Tbh it’s better in the criminals hands, probably some of the £1M will end up feeding someone’s kids who’ve got nowt.. better that than sat on Grealish’s table.

You utter prick.

[Baby Ate My Eight Ball]

I work with a guy who’s mates with one of the kit men at Man City. A recent international break when Grealish was injured, he took a few of these lads out on the piss around Manchester and they ended up back at his flat too. They were going to proper boozers like the Angel, not cocktails at the Malmaisson.

Doesn’t say a great deal about his professionalism but from what I’ve heard he sounds like a normal bloke that’s still in touch with the average punter.

[ben1987]

Dec 31, 2023 14:24:39 GMT 1 Terrier Ramone said:

Dec 31, 2023 14:04:47 GMT 1 pterrier said:

I remember u posting a good few years back about your experience, didn’t they have the audacity to take a dump as well? Forgive me if I’m wrong.

I’ve been burgled twice, police are completely incompetent and can’t be bothered with the paperwork half the time.

Yeah,that's some memory you have, I've been burgled 4 times, & once they did take a dump (I told the police they must have had a dog with them, they told me how common it was).

I've also had a window shot at with an air rifle & the police said it wasn't worth coming out for but they'd give me a crime number for insurance purposes.

The morale of this story, kids, is don't live in Bradford.

Like you, I live in Bradford (we’ve car shared a couple of times over the years) and I’ve become more and more aware of the likelihood of being burgled as I’ve got older. I remember my parents house being burgled when my brother was home alone and I’d just nipped out. It was an awful experience for him and it certainly had an impact on me. In the last 3 months I’ve had a new front door, new front window, new light and new ring cameras fitted and I always lock my gate every night when I’m in. All in an effort to prevent being broken into. Working away, my house is unoccupied a lot during the week so it does make me think. I live in a back to back terrace and live in a fairly decent area so I’m able to fortify my home which I have and it’s because of stories like Jack Grealishs and others. Criminals don’t care, they’ll do whatever it takes. I’m not a desirable target but I’d rather not take the risk.

The days of seeing police patrolling the streets on foot are long gone. Robert Peel invented the police to prevent crime, sadly our police force can’t and don’t really do that much anymore, we can thank Roy Jenkins for that one. I think home owners now have to take even more care than they ever have, the levels in which criminals will go to is frightening.

Someone’s home, is someone’s private space. Wealth doesn’t even come into it.

[Terrier Ramone]

Jan 1, 2024 12:57:34 GMT 1 ben1987 said:

Dec 31, 2023 14:24:39 GMT 1 Terrier Ramone said:

Yeah,that's some memory you have, I've been burgled 4 times, & once they did take a dump (I told the police they must have had a dog with them, they told me how common it was).

I've also had a window shot at with an air rifle & the police said it wasn't worth coming out for but they'd give me a crime number for insurance purposes.

The morale of this story, kids, is don't live in Bradford.

Like you, I live in Bradford (we’ve car shared a couple of times over the years) and I’ve become more and more aware of the likelihood of being burgled as I’ve got older. I remember my parents house being burgled when my brother was home alone and I’d just nipped out. It was an awful experience for him and it certainly had an impact on me. In the last 3 months I’ve had a new front door, new front window, new light and new ring cameras fitted and I always lock my gate every night when I’m in. All in an effort to prevent being broken into. Working away, my house is unoccupied a lot during the week so it does make me think. I live in a back to back terrace and live in a fairly decent area so I’m able to fortify my home which I have and it’s because of stories like Jack Grealishs and others. Criminals don’t care, they’ll do whatever it takes. I’m not a desirable target but I’d rather not take the risk.

The days of seeing police patrolling the streets on foot are long gone. Robert Peel invented the police to prevent crime, sadly our police force can’t and don’t really do that much anymore, we can thank Roy Jenkins for that one. I think home owners now have to take even more care than they ever have, the levels in which criminals will go to is frightening.

Someone’s home, is someone’s private space. Wealth doesn’t even come into it.

You're absolutely right mate, I'm in Bingley now & that's a lot better than where I was. Always enjoyed your company, hopefully something we can do again at some point.

[ben1987]

Jan 1, 2024 13:52:42 GMT 1 Terrier Ramone said:

Jan 1, 2024 12:57:34 GMT 1 ben1987 said:

Like you, I live in Bradford (we’ve car shared a couple of times over the years) and I’ve become more and more aware of the likelihood of being burgled as I’ve got older. I remember my parents house being burgled when my brother was home alone and I’d just nipped out. It was an awful experience for him and it certainly had an impact on me. In the last 3 months I’ve had a new front door, new front window, new light and new ring cameras fitted and I always lock my gate every night when I’m in. All in an effort to prevent being broken into. Working away, my house is unoccupied a lot during the week so it does make me think. I live in a back to back terrace and live in a fairly decent area so I’m able to fortify my home which I have and it’s because of stories like Jack Grealishs and others. Criminals don’t care, they’ll do whatever it takes. I’m not a desirable target but I’d rather not take the risk.

The days of seeing police patrolling the streets on foot are long gone. Robert Peel invented the police to prevent crime, sadly our police force can’t and don’t really do that much anymore, we can thank Roy Jenkins for that one. I think home owners now have to take even more care than they ever have, the levels in which criminals will go to is frightening.

Someone’s home, is someone’s private space. Wealth doesn’t even come into it.

You're absolutely right mate, I'm in Bingley now & that's a lot better than where I was. Always enjoyed your company, hopefully something we can do again at some point.

Nice area is Bingley, not quite Manningham where I was before 😬My Dads in Wislden and I’m in Thornton. There’s a few Bingley Terriers. We can catch up sometime definitely.

[themanfromatlantis]

Maybe you can bring Bantam along to a Town game, see if you can convert him/her?

Mind you, they’d have to get used to being part of a paltry crowd…

[Mastercracker]

Got broken into when I lived in Gomersal, not Bradford but a BD postcode and close enough. It was rife on the Burnleys Mill estate on which we lived. Anyone with a car worth nicking was a target. I had a BMW at the time and the policeman that came round patronisingly just said "well thats obviously what they were after" like I was the problem. Could have punched him.

The police liaison woman who came round later told us something like 90% of burglaries committed within Kirklees are by scrotes from Bradford, specifically the Holme Wood estate - a lawless armpit.

Only thing that went from ours was my wallet with £40 in which was downstairs, the car keys were upstairs and luckily they didn't come up. We didn't even wake up, the first I knew of it was going downstairs in the morning to let the cat out and he was already outside looking in at me...

The feeling of someone violating your safe space is awful. Took months if not years to get over. Millionaire or not, Grealish has my sympathies as does anyone else who has experienced that feeling.

[ben1987]

Jan 1, 2024 14:39:27 GMT 1 Mastercracker said:

Got broken into when I lived in Gomersal, not Bradford but a BD postcode and close enough. It was rife on the Burnleys Mill estate on which we lived. Anyone with a car worth nicking was a target. I had a BMW at the time and the policeman that came round patronisingly just said "well thats obviously what they were after" like I was the problem. Could have punched him.

The police liaison woman who came round later told us something like 90% of burglaries committed within Kirklees are by scrotes from Bradford, specifically the Holme Wood estate - a lawless armpit.

Only thing that went from ours was my wallet with £40 in which was downstairs, the car keys were upstairs and luckily they didn't come up. We didn't even wake up, the first I knew of it was going downstairs in the morning to let the cat out and he was already outside looking in at me...

The feeling of someone violating your safe space is awful. Took months if not years to get over. Millionaire or not, Grealish has my sympathies as does anyone else who has experienced that feeling.

Lawless indeed. I had a job booked in to do in holmewood a few years back and on arrival, we refused to work. Packed up and left.

[Mastercracker]

Jan 1, 2024 14:51:55 GMT 1 ben1987 said:

Jan 1, 2024 14:39:27 GMT 1 Mastercracker said:

Got broken into when I lived in Gomersal, not Bradford but a BD postcode and close enough. It was rife on the Burnleys Mill estate on which we lived. Anyone with a car worth nicking was a target. I had a BMW at the time and the policeman that came round patronisingly just said "well thats obviously what they were after" like I was the problem. Could have punched him.

The police liaison woman who came round later told us something like 90% of burglaries committed within Kirklees are by scrotes from Bradford, specifically the Holme Wood estate - a lawless armpit.

Only thing that went from ours was my wallet with £40 in which was downstairs, the car keys were upstairs and luckily they didn't come up. We didn't even wake up, the first I knew of it was going downstairs in the morning to let the cat out and he was already outside looking in at me...

The feeling of someone violating your safe space is awful. Took months if not years to get over. Millionaire or not, Grealish has my sympathies as does anyone else who has experienced that feeling.

Lawless indeed. I had a job booked in to do in holmewood a few years back and on arrival, we refused to work. Packed up and left.

A wise decision.

[Terrier Ramone]

I worked on Holmewood for about a year, I loved it, some real "characters" but it's very true you can get absolutely everything there.

[Terrier Ramone]

I believe when Murray Wallace played for us, he went out with a girl from Holmewood.

[Orinoco]

Jan 1, 2024 15:10:35 GMT 1 Terrier Ramone said:

I worked on Holmewood for about a year, I loved it, some real "characters" but it's very true you can get absolutely everything there.

Buses and taxis were banned from going up there not that long ago, it's normally the July/August school hols when Holmewood comes into the spotlight!.

[Orinoco]

Dec 31, 2023 18:19:03 GMT 1 Wingman said:

Dec 31, 2023 15:11:21 GMT 1 uptownfunk said:

Couldn’t give a fuck what you think pal. Your view of what’s ridiculous or isn’t is completely worthless and irrelevant.

That could easily mean your opinion is irrelevant too.

As you mention, these lads are paid X to run around after a football. They don’t choose to be paid so much, they are offered it. I certainly don’t agree with players salaries and I’d even suggest a cap is reintroduced, but until fans stop paying for Sky etc, and paying £120 for an ‘authentic match shirt’ the clubs will continue to plug their money hoover up fans arse and suck out the brass.

So true Wingman, wages are ridiculous and nobody would turn down money, TV has ruined the game, grealish can spend his money on what he wants but footballers will always be the burglers target. Incidents like this highlight how stupid the game has become.

[Porrohman]

Jan 1, 2024 14:15:22 GMT 1 themanfromatlantis said:

Maybe you can bring Bantam along to a Town game, see if you can convert him/her?

Mind you, they’d have to get used to being part of a paltry crowd…

Rather than a poultry one ?

[Porrohman]

Jan 1, 2024 12:57:34 GMT 1 ben1987 said:

Dec 31, 2023 14:24:39 GMT 1 Terrier Ramone said:

Yeah,that's some memory you have, I've been burgled 4 times, & once they did take a dump (I told the police they must have had a dog with them, they told me how common it was).

I've also had a window shot at with an air rifle & the police said it wasn't worth coming out for but they'd give me a crime number for insurance purposes.

The morale of this story, kids, is don't live in Bradford.

Like you, I live in Bradford (we’ve car shared a couple of times over the years) and I’ve become more and more aware of the likelihood of being burgled as I’ve got older. I remember my parents house being burgled when my brother was home alone and I’d just nipped out. It was an awful experience for him and it certainly had an impact on me. In the last 3 months I’ve had a new front door, new front window, new light and new ring cameras fitted and I always lock my gate every night when I’m in. All in an effort to prevent being broken into. Working away, my house is unoccupied a lot during the week so it does make me think. I live in a back to back terrace and live in a fairly decent area so I’m able to fortify my home which I have and it’s because of stories like Jack Grealishs and others. Criminals don’t care, they’ll do whatever it takes. I’m not a desirable target but I’d rather not take the risk.

The days of seeing police patrolling the streets on foot are long gone. Robert Peel invented the police to prevent crime, sadly our police force can’t and don’t really do that much anymore, we can thank Roy Jenkins for that one. I think home owners now have to take even more care than they ever have, the levels in which criminals will go to is frightening.

Someone’s home, is someone’s private space. Wealth doesn’t even come into it.

Not the same but I moved in with our lass in 1996, she lived on Perseverance Lane at Great Horton. My car insurance came up for renewal and they refused to insure me due to the post code.