Contracts

[Baby Ate My Eight Ball]

Had a look on Transfermarkt and it seems as though these are the players whose contracts are up at the end of the season (feel free to correct):

Hogg
Nakayama
REG
Diarra
Ayina
Chapman

Edwards and Burgzorg on loan as well.

Headley and Jackson have been extended until 2025 but I’d imagine that’s on their first pro contract - so they should be tied down onto a proper first team contract for me.

Who do we extend and who do we let go of those above?

[htafcokay]

Dec 30, 2023 12:38:37 GMT 1 Baby Ate My Eight Ball said:

Had a look on Transfermarkt and it seems as though these are the players whose contracts are up at the end of the season (feel free to correct):

Hogg
Nakayama
REG
Diarra
Ayina
Chapman

Edwards and Burgzorg on loan as well.

Headley and Jackson have been extended until 2025 but I’d imagine that’s on their first pro contract - so they should be tied down onto a proper first team contract for me.

Who do we extend and who do we let go of those above?

I wouldn't extend any of them apart from maybe Diarra (is there some potential there?) and Chapman (based on his last two performances).

[jonnycrutches]

I'd extend:
Nakayama - best ball playing centre back we've got
Diarra - huge potential there, if someone could teach him what to do in the final third
Chapman - looks pretty good so far on his 1.5 appearances, needs a loan move if possible
Headley and Jackson - most improved players under Moore, would love to see what they're capable of and definitely deserve to be in the first team

[theravymoomin]

Reg, his time is just about up I think now, plays in a few positions and that’s probably only reason why he’s in the squad, and the fact there’s nobody else.
Diarra has got to be offered another contact, there’s a good player in there somewhere,
Yuta needs another year
Chapman needs to go to league 1 on loan,

[Wingman]

Hogg - retain
Nakayama - likely to choose to go
REG - release
Diarra - retain
Ayina - retain
Chapman - retain and loan out unless Nicholls is sold.

Rhodes is out of contract too I believe - release.

[harris]

I feel like we need a clean slate, so putting emotion to one side

Hogg - time to move on
Nakayama - not quite done enough. Decent footballer but maybe not suited to the championship
REG - leave, not good enough
Diarra - try sell in Jan, not going to happen for him here though I do think he’ll have a good career
Ayina - not seen anything from him, feel we might have if we weren’t constantly battling relegation, keep for league one if relegated, leave if not
Chapman - if we need a third choice GK then maybe, though he’s 23 and probably wants game time

6 players there in and around the squad that we need ready made championship replacements for.

[Terry Jacko]

It’s been mentioned before but I think Hogg will be more than capable to do at least another season in a Dean Whitehead type role, he looks after himself.

[Big Ern]

Why on earth would we let Hogg go you must be mental. Our most consistent and passionate player.

[castlehillterrier]

Hogg How anyone is questioning not offering a new deal ? I see Hogg getting a 2 year new contract and still very much part of the first team squad next season, no brainer for me.
Nakayama, be good to extend but I think its doubtful he will stay i am sure a contract will be offered however.
REG can go now not good enough needs to play league 2 or at a push league 1
Diarra new deal offered but he and agent not signing anything, good chance he will leave in Jan.
Ayina should get a new 2 year deal and then a loan for next season.
Chapman new contract for sure, he is highly rated inside the club and last two games he has shown why, expect a loan next season.

Edwards send him back now, I believe he might actually be already back at Stoke.
Burgzorg take the option to buy in the summer subject to being in the Championship, if he will sign a contract with us is a very different matter however.

Headley will get a new contract for sure.
Jackson will get a new contract for sure.

[2ellandback]

Dec 30, 2023 13:31:21 GMT 1 castlehillterrier said:

Hogg How anyone is questioning not offering a new deal ? I see Hogg getting a 2 year new contract and still very much part of the first team squad next season, no brainer for me.
Nakayama, be good to extend but I think its doubtful he will stay i am sure a contract will be offered however.
REG can go now not good enough needs to play league 2 or at a push league 1
Diarra new deal offered but he and agent not signing anything, good chance he will leave in Jan.
Ayina should get a new 2 year deal and then a loan for next season.
Chapman new contract for sure, he is highly rated inside the club and last two games he has shown why, expect a loan next season.

Edwards send him back now, I believe he might actually be already back at Stoke.
Burgzorg take the option to buy in the summer subject to being in the Championship, if he will sign a contract with us is a very different matter however.

Headley will get a new contract for sure.
Jackson will get a new contract for sure.

It’s great to have someone on the inside keeping us all in the loop. 😂😂😂😂

[Terriersmad]

Hogg - He's more than capable of doing a job, even at 35. However, I don't think the midfield is going to move on or be properly reshaped until he calls it a day. I'd offer a one-year contract to tide us over, but if he were to call it quits I think it's fair enough.
Nakayama - Ball-playing left-footed centre-backs are a rarity and we'd be daft to let him go without offering a contract, but not on silly money. If he chooses to leave, then that's his call.
Edmonds-Green - Release, with best wishes. The lad's a trier and will give his all, even if it isn't quite good enough.
Diarra - If a contract isn't sorted, sell in this window. There's lots of potential, but we need to protect our own financial interests (particularly as Moore doesn't seem to fancy him).
Ayina - Not seen enough of him. Gut instinct says he's worth keeping at the club and maybe developing as a full-back.
Chapman - Every club needs 3 goalkeepers. He is the third. Worth offering a contract and keeping a settled goalkeeping situation. If he chooses to leave, then we should get some money from a tribunal.
Rhodes - Bring back, play, but don't offer a contract unless he scores a hatful. We need fresh striking options and, as much as I love him and think he will score if given the service, he's 33 and his time is coming to a natural end.

I'm sure we have others in the B team. Gut instinct is that if they're 20/21 and haven't broken through, we need to let them go. Clear the decks a little.

[harris]

Dec 30, 2023 13:39:23 GMT 1 Terriersmad said:

Hogg - He's more than capable of doing a job, even at 35. However, I don't think the midfield is going to move on or be properly reshaped until he calls it a day. I'd offer a one-year contract to tide us over, but if he were to call it quits I think it's fair enough.
Nakayama - Ball-playing left-footed centre-backs are a rarity and we'd be daft to let him go without offering a contract, but not on silly money. If he chooses to leave, then that's his call.
Edmonds-Green - Release, with best wishes. The lad's a trier and will give his all, even if it isn't quite good enough.
Diarra - If a contract isn't sorted, sell in this window. There's lots of potential, but we need to protect our own financial interests (particularly as Moore doesn't seem to fancy him).
Ayina - Not seen enough of him. Gut instinct says he's worth keeping at the club and maybe developing as a full-back.
Chapman - Every club needs 3 goalkeepers. He is the third. Worth offering a contract and keeping a settled goalkeeping situation. If he chooses to leave, then we should get some money from a tribunal.
Rhodes - Bring back, play, but don't offer a contract unless he scores a hatful. We need fresh striking options and, as much as I love him and think he will score if given the service, he's 33 and his time is coming to a natural end.

I'm sure we have others in the B team. Gut instinct is that if they're 20/21 and haven't broken through, we need to let them go. Clear the decks a little.

Re Hogg - my thoughts exactly. There’s probably a place for him on the bench, but we have to move on at some point

[Baby Ate My Eight Ball]

Personally, think we should keep Hogg until he wants to call it quits. Chapman and Ayina should be gocen new contracts, Diarra too but seems as though he’ll leave. REG move on.

Nakayama has been a bit underwhelming, would keep if the price is right but I’d imagine he’ll want to move on. Think he’d be better suited to a less physical league.

[htafcokay]

Dec 30, 2023 13:40:45 GMT 1 harris said:

Dec 30, 2023 13:39:23 GMT 1 Terriersmad said:

Hogg - He's more than capable of doing a job, even at 35. However, I don't think the midfield is going to move on or be properly reshaped until he calls it a day. I'd offer a one-year contract to tide us over, but if he were to call it quits I think it's fair enough.
Nakayama - Ball-playing left-footed centre-backs are a rarity and we'd be daft to let him go without offering a contract, but not on silly money. If he chooses to leave, then that's his call.
Edmonds-Green - Release, with best wishes. The lad's a trier and will give his all, even if it isn't quite good enough.
Diarra - If a contract isn't sorted, sell in this window. There's lots of potential, but we need to protect our own financial interests (particularly as Moore doesn't seem to fancy him).
Ayina - Not seen enough of him. Gut instinct says he's worth keeping at the club and maybe developing as a full-back.
Chapman - Every club needs 3 goalkeepers. He is the third. Worth offering a contract and keeping a settled goalkeeping situation. If he chooses to leave, then we should get some money from a tribunal.
Rhodes - Bring back, play, but don't offer a contract unless he scores a hatful. We need fresh striking options and, as much as I love him and think he will score if given the service, he's 33 and his time is coming to a natural end.

I'm sure we have others in the B team. Gut instinct is that if they're 20/21 and haven't broken through, we need to let them go. Clear the decks a little.

Re Hogg - my thoughts exactly. There’s probably a place for him on the bench, but we have to move on at some point

Give him a testimonial at the end of this season and let him bow out with dignity. As you said, we need to move on.

[Tinpot]

For me, Hoggy should be performing "the Dean Whitehead role". Shore things up and drop in when a bit of experience is needed but we need someone who can play 48 games and with the best will in the world he's no longer able to do that.

There was a time that I thought Austerfield or High might take that role but I doubt either will make it as a regular at this level. Needs replacing but still useful to have around.

REG: Great attitude but I'm not sure I'd keep him even if we're relegated. Upper end of Lg2 he'd do a fine job.

Chapman: If last night is anything to go by, he will probably be looking for first team football. Our current 3rd choice, but he's better than some of the first choice options we've had in previous years. I'd like to keep him and send on loan. He might have other ideas.

[htafcokay]

Dec 30, 2023 15:19:41 GMT 1 Tinpot said:

For me, Hoggy should be performing "the Dean Whitehead role". Shore things up and drop in when a bit of experience is needed but we need someone who can play 48 games and with the best will in the world he's no longer able to do that.

There was a time that I thought Austerfield or High might take that role but I doubt either will make it as a regular at this level. Needs replacing but still useful to have around.

REG: Great attitude but I'm not sure I'd keep him even if we're relegated. Upper end of Lg2 he'd do a fine job.

Chapman: If last night is anything to go by, he will probably be looking for first team football. Our current 3rd choice, but he's better than some of the first choice options we've had in previous years. I'd like to keep him and send on loan. He might have other ideas.

He's a great prospect.

[rockwall]

Dec 30, 2023 12:40:21 GMT 1 htafcokay said:

Dec 30, 2023 12:38:37 GMT 1 Baby Ate My Eight Ball said:

Had a look on Transfermarkt and it seems as though these are the players whose contracts are up at the end of the season (feel free to correct):

Hogg
Nakayama
REG
Diarra
Ayina
Chapman

Edwards and Burgzorg on loan as well.

Headley and Jackson have been extended until 2025 but I’d imagine that’s on their first pro contract - so they should be tied down onto a proper first team contract for me.

Who do we extend and who do we let go of those above?

I wouldn't extend any of them apart from maybe Diarra (is there some potential there?) and Chapman (based on his last two performances).

Agree, think Diarra is the stumbling block- rumour has it, same as Camara did, wants to leave.
I would extend Hoggs, but only a 1 year deal, with a similar role to that of Whitehead. Plays cup games, back up and used only when needed.

[stevvy]

Hogg at this stage of his career probably is best on a yearly contract. I'd keep him though, and maybe see if he's willing to hang around when he does retire.
Diarra I'd keep if he'll stay, but probably needs a loan to L1.
REG shouldn't be anywhere near the squad. Get rid
Nakayama keep, even if just for a year.
Chapman why not give him an extension and send him to L1 on loan
Ayina may as well extend his contract

Loanees: Edwards needs to be sent back to Stoke now
Burgzorg I'd look to buy in the summer if we can. He can be bloody frustrating sometimes, but he's a bit of a wildcard in that neither we, nor the opposition know exactly what he'll do next

[Henry Mcgee]

Dec 30, 2023 13:30:42 GMT 1 Big Ern said:

Why on earth would we let Hogg go you must be mental. Our most consistent and passionate player.

Shouldn't be good enough to get in the team but the fact he does shows how lacking we are in his position.  I guess that means I'm mental - or I'm not letting affection for a club stalwart gloss over his fallibilities.

[htafcokay]

Dec 30, 2023 13:30:42 GMT 1 Big Ern said:

Why on earth would we let Hogg go you must be mental. Our most consistent and passionate player.

Because he's 35 and we need to replace him with someone younger, fitter and better.

We might surprise ourselves and actually end up with someone better and we might actually progress on the pitch. 

Reminds me of when we used to wheel Boothy out every season, even though he could barely walk, just because it was Boothy. 

We should move on, he's been a great servant, but there's no way we should be relying as much as we do on a 35 year old.

[htafcokay]

Dec 30, 2023 15:44:10 GMT 1 rockwall said:

Dec 30, 2023 12:40:21 GMT 1 htafcokay said:

I wouldn't extend any of them apart from maybe Diarra (is there some potential there?) and Chapman (based on his last two performances).

Agree, think Diarra is the stumbling block- rumour has it, same as Camara did, wants to leave.
I would extend Hoggs, but only a 1 year deal, with a similar role to that of Whitehead. Plays cup games, back up and used only when needed.

If he wants to leave, then get rid of him. No point keeping players that don't want to be here. 

As for Hogg, I think we need to move on a bit and see if we can sign a new Hogg. I mean, we should have done that when we were in the Premier League. He's now already starting to miss games or come off early because he's knackered, yet some on here would be giving him a five year deal and wanting him to play every week 

Thanks for the service, but let's move on.

[htafcokay]

Dec 30, 2023 15:44:32 GMT 1 stevvy said:

Hogg at this stage of his career probably is best on a yearly contract. I'd keep him though, and maybe see if he's willing to hang around when he does retire.
Diarra I'd keep if he'll stay, but probably needs a loan to L1.
REG shouldn't be anywhere near the squad. Get rid
Nakayama keep, even if just for a year.
Chapman why not give him an extension and send him to L1 on loan
Ayina may as well extend his contract

Loanees: Edwards needs to be sent back to Stoke now
Burgzorg I'd look to buy in the summer if we can. He can be bloody frustrating sometimes, but he's a bit of a wildcard in that neither we, nor the opposition know exactly what he'll do next

But he's a great prospect.

[rockwall]

Dec 30, 2023 15:52:01 GMT 1 htafcokay said:

Dec 30, 2023 15:44:32 GMT 1 stevvy said:

Hogg at this stage of his career probably is best on a yearly contract. I'd keep him though, and maybe see if he's willing to hang around when he does retire.
Diarra I'd keep if he'll stay, but probably needs a loan to L1.
REG shouldn't be anywhere near the squad. Get rid
Nakayama keep, even if just for a year.
Chapman why not give him an extension and send him to L1 on loan
Ayina may as well extend his contract

Loanees: Edwards needs to be sent back to Stoke now
Burgzorg I'd look to buy in the summer if we can. He can be bloody frustrating sometimes, but he's a bit of a wildcard in that neither we, nor the opposition know exactly what he'll do next

But he's a great prospect.

A bit like that young lad at Peterborough, is it Crichlow?

[htafcokay]

Dec 30, 2023 15:55:48 GMT 1 rockwall said:

Dec 30, 2023 15:52:01 GMT 1 htafcokay said:

But he's a great prospect.

A bit like that young lad at Peterborough, is it Crichlow?

Who was a better centre-half than REG.

Used to make me laugh, it was obvious that REG was garbage years ago yet people kept saying "he's a great prospect". Fuck knows what they were basing it on because aside from about two games under Warnock, he's been utterly hopeless in numerous different positions. 

And if he's a midfielder, then I'm a banana. 

[Christ in Shades (art)]

Dec 30, 2023 15:59:17 GMT 1 htafcokay said:

Dec 30, 2023 15:55:48 GMT 1 rockwall said:

A bit like that young lad at Peterborough, is it Crichlow?

Who was a better centre-half than REG.

Used to make me laugh, it was obvious that REG was garbage years ago yet people kept saying "he's a great prospect". Fuck knows what they were basing it on because aside from about two games under Warnock, he's been utterly hopeless in numerous different positions. 

And if he's a midfielder, then I'm a banana. 

Think fans used to buy in to this whole hyperbole set by Hoyle, let's sign these young lads and pass them off as great prospects when really it was Hoyle setting the narrative disguising it as some kind of progressive transfer policy and we were getting one over on the rest of The Championship when in reality we were signing average players, the fans lapped it up because Hoyle had spoken. Another one was that Justin Brown lad.

[htafcokay]

Dec 30, 2023 16:18:47 GMT 1 Christ in Shades (art) said:

Dec 30, 2023 15:59:17 GMT 1 htafcokay said:

Who was a better centre-half than REG.

Used to make me laugh, it was obvious that REG was garbage years ago yet people kept saying "he's a great prospect". Fuck knows what they were basing it on because aside from about two games under Warnock, he's been utterly hopeless in numerous different positions. 

And if he's a midfielder, then I'm a banana. 

Think fans used to buy in to this whole hyperbole set by Hoyle, let's sign these young lads and pass them off as great prospects when really it was Hoyle setting the narrative disguising it as some kind of progressive transfer policy and we were getting one over on the rest of The Championship when in reality we were signing average players, the fans lapped it up because Hoyle had spoken. Another one was that Justin Brown lad.

Jaden?

To quote Hodgkinson, "What a player. WHAT A PLAYER".

[turbo2]

Dec 30, 2023 12:38:37 GMT 1 Baby Ate My Eight Ball said:

Had a look on Transfermarkt and it seems as though these are the players whose contracts are up at the end of the season (feel free to correct):

Hogg
Nakayama
REG
Diarra
Ayina
Chapman

Edwards and Burgzorg on loan as well.

Headley and Jackson have been extended until 2025 but I’d imagine that’s on their first pro contract - so they should be tied down onto a proper first team contract for me.

Who do we extend and who do we let go of those above?

Don’t tell me we’ve got ward for another year?

[Christ in Shades (art)]

Dec 30, 2023 16:32:38 GMT 1 htafcokay said:

Dec 30, 2023 16:18:47 GMT 1 Christ in Shades (art) said:

Think fans used to buy in to this whole hyperbole set by Hoyle, let's sign these young lads and pass them off as great prospects when really it was Hoyle setting the narrative disguising it as some kind of progressive transfer policy and we were getting one over on the rest of The Championship when in reality we were signing average players, the fans lapped it up because Hoyle had spoken. Another one was that Justin Brown lad.

Jaden?

To quote Hodgkinson, "What a player. WHAT A PLAYER".

Aye that's him. Showed what Hoyle knew.

[overtonterrierspirit]

Dec 30, 2023 16:35:25 GMT 1 turbo2 said:

Dec 30, 2023 12:38:37 GMT 1 Baby Ate My Eight Ball said:

Had a look on Transfermarkt and it seems as though these are the players whose contracts are up at the end of the season (feel free to correct):

Hogg
Nakayama
REG
Diarra
Ayina
Chapman

Edwards and Burgzorg on loan as well.

Headley and Jackson have been extended until 2025 but I’d imagine that’s on their first pro contract - so they should be tied down onto a proper first team contract for me.

Who do we extend and who do we let go of those above?

Don’t tell me we’ve got ward for another year?

Don’t worry.
We won’t see him too often.

[Sparrow]

It’s a shame we’ve not been able or willing to offer Diarra a better contract that he’d sign and stay as i still think he’ll become a top top player.

Just hope we manage to secure good add-ons and a sell on %