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Post by Porrohman on Jan 1, 2024 18:26:17 GMT 1
Players look shattered. No bench the American Shitshow by Kevin Nagle. What's to lose by bringing on one or two of these young lads when you're 3-0 up or 4-1 down? Surely Iorpenda or Stone can't be as bad as REG. You know he'll flog the same lads again against City. He won't give any of the kids a chance from the bench so there's no way he'll give them a go against City.
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 1, 2024 18:27:11 GMT 1
Thread for next week’s game should be on how many goals can we expect to concede. And then try and take the positives out of a 4-0 defeat because it's less than we expected. That's definitely a lot less than I'm expecting.
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Post by Macduff on Jan 1, 2024 18:30:01 GMT 1
I'd have settled for 4-1 before we kicked off, although hoped for better. If you'd have told me Kasumu would be crap, Wiles would keep giving the ball away, Sorba would go back to trying to do too much and losing the ball continually and then we lose Headley to injury and have to swap 3 of the back 5 around - I'd have snapped your hand off for 4-1. The players are knackered and I wouldn't let any of them play more than 45 minutes next week, apart from Nicholls who looks like he needs some practice 😉 He'll certainly get some next week if he plays.
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Post by tepidterrier on Jan 1, 2024 18:36:56 GMT 1
Players look shattered. No bench the American Shitshow by Kevin Nagle. What's to lose by bringing on one or two of these young lads when you're 3-0 up or 4-1 down? Surely Iorpenda or Stone can't be as bad as REG. Agree with you on the young players- it's bizarre that he even names them on the bench if there's no prospect of them ever playing. I thought REG wasn't too bad today though. The way Leicester play meant he was responsible for 2 of their players more often than not, with the full backs tucking into attacking midfield roles as they got forward. Obviously he's limited, and lacking in so many qualities of a championship level defensive midfielder, but he did about as well as he could've today. Wiles and Kasumu were both a fair bit worse than him on this occasion.
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Post by impact on Jan 1, 2024 18:38:10 GMT 1
He's not been a cracking defender this year. He's made as many mistakes as the rest of them, similar to Nicholls. When you’re playing in a team with weaknesses all around you and constantly under threat, you will make mistakes. He’s a top defender for this league. IMO he's the best defender in our squad but only a decent championship centre half. He has some great games, eg Blackburn, but then makes mistakes positionally too much to be classed as a top defender. Today's 2nd and 3rd are prime examples. The 2nd he loses his man which led to a double of him and the scorer on Ayina. His man doesn't score so it's glossed over but if he stays with him the goal is much less likely to happen. The 3rd he runs out for no reason, stops and leaves a massive gap behind him. Lees should have done better, he's soft as hell, but it doesn't happen without Helik misreading the situation then not reacting. I think that, like Nicholls (IMO responsible for the 1st and 4th goals today), he gets an easier ride for his mistakes and they get forgotten about because of prior seasons' performances, whereas Wiles takes the brunt when it's not his fault because he has been a poor signing.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Jan 1, 2024 18:39:26 GMT 1
The scoreline is a reflection of the gap in quality between the respective squads.
But they did OK in parts today. The last 3 games certainly give cause for hope, but we do need to have a transfer window that brings in some quality and some experience.
I’m sure the usual brigade will be out in force in the next few days having a pop via the various open doors presented to them, but I think we’re still OK to climb out of the current position with more room to spare than last season.
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Post by Dillinger on Jan 1, 2024 18:45:56 GMT 1
The scoreline is a reflection of the gap in quality between the respective squads. But they did OK in parts today. The last 3 games certainly give cause for hope, but we do need to have a transfer window that brings in some quality and some experience. I’m sure the usual brigade will be out in force in the next few days having a pop via the various open doors presented to them, but I think we’re still OK to climb out of the current position with more room to spare than last season. I think you're right; the four league games after Man City are Plymouth, Blackburn, QPR and Massive. If we are going to be safe, you'd probably bet on us needing to win ideally 3 of those 4...
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Post by htafcokay on Jan 1, 2024 18:46:08 GMT 1
The scoreline is a reflection of the gap in quality between the respective squads. But they did OK in parts today. The last 3 games certainly give cause for hope, but we do need to have a transfer window that brings in some quality and some experience. I’m sure the usual brigade will be out in force in the next few days having a pop via the various open doors presented to them, but I think we’re still OK to climb out of the current position with more room to spare than last season. The "usual suspects" just want to see us win some games. If you're happy with us losing every week, then that's up to you.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jan 1, 2024 18:56:17 GMT 1
I hope Nagle understands and accepts, that we need reinforcements asap. The squad lacks depth and quaility. I will not accept ooo its a tough month, it may well be but if Nagle really cares about the club, him and co make things happen . We have to be aggresive in the makret and make players want to come , players aren't going to come if we don't put real effort in, in terms of wages and putting the money up in terms of fees.
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Post by kirkheatonterrier on Jan 1, 2024 18:56:35 GMT 1
You have to think we’ll have some new faces in by the time we play Plymouth at home given we’re halfway through January by that point. Given we've known for months that we need players in, if we haven't got anyone in by then, then that's some fucking horrific planning, as really even by today we should have at least 2-4 players pretty much ready to go and bring in by the weekend (even if it's only on Friday evening) But it won't be down to the club. Clubs , players and agents probably won't want to commit so early in the window as they will be hopeful of getting better offers which is why most deals are done towards the end of the window
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Post by drewden on Jan 1, 2024 19:00:40 GMT 1
Just logged on, been working, watched bits of the match on way down to great Yarmouth, greats not the word, although I did predict a 3 - 0 defeat so no surprises there.
Not read the thread but how was our performance in general.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2024 19:04:52 GMT 1
Genuine question. In a game where we have only named 8 subs and with the bulk of the starting 11 having played a hell of a lot of minutes over a short period (and with more injured than available it seems) did we actually have the option of recalling and using some of those loaned out players to bulk up the squad for today? What, drop them straight into a team they haven’t trained with for months under a manager they probably haven’t met. Not really.
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Post by goodbet on Jan 1, 2024 19:09:18 GMT 1
When you’re playing in a team with weaknesses all around you and constantly under threat, you will make mistakes. He’s a top defender for this league. IMO he's the best defender in our squad but only a decent championship centre half. He has some great games, eg Blackburn, but then makes mistakes positionally too much to be classed as a top defender. Today's 2nd and 3rd are prime examples. The 2nd he loses his man which led to a double of him and the scorer on Ayina. His man doesn't score so it's glossed over but if he stays with him the goal is much less likely to happen. The 3rd he runs out for no reason, stops and leaves a massive gap behind him. Lees should have done better, he's soft as hell, but it doesn't happen without Helik misreading the situation then not reacting. I think that, like Nicholls (IMO responsible for the 1st and 4th goals today), he gets an easier ride for his mistakes and they get forgotten about because of prior seasons' performances, whereas Wiles takes the brunt when it's not his fault because he has been a poor signing. Why do we keep signing injured players or players not fully recovered from injuries? My guess because they are the ones we can afford and may come good. If we are to get better we need to change this strategy!
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Post by goodbet on Jan 1, 2024 19:17:43 GMT 1
The scoreline is a reflection of the gap in quality between the respective squads. But they did OK in parts today. The last 3 games certainly give cause for hope, but we do need to have a transfer window that brings in some quality and some experience. I’m sure the usual brigade will be out in force in the next few days having a pop via the various open doors presented to them, but I think we’re still OK to climb out of the current position with more room to spare than last season. We have more time than last season to get things right.
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Post by kennyk2 on Jan 1, 2024 19:30:16 GMT 1
Just logged on, been working, watched bits of the match on way down to great Yarmouth, greats not the word, although I did predict a 3 - 0 defeat so no surprises there. Not read the thread but how was our performance in general. We did well in the first 30 minutes, but that could be because Leicester couldn't be bothered. The Leicester... who sold £90 million's worth of players in the summer and bought £40 million's worth. I was very critical of Wiles in the first half... please lad, get involved in the game! But, second half he played much better. Headley goes from strength to strength. I hope that the injury is not too bad. At the moment he is the best left wing back at the club. Great stuff. We had opportunities in the game on the break, but Thomas is not a natural goalscorer and delays just a bit too long to let off a shot/pass. Poor old Koroma has hit the woodwork in the last two games. Burgzorg would have been much more of a problem for them today. Some said that REG had a decent game, but every time I looked at him he was jogging. Town never gave up. We have shown much more attacking intent in the last three games.
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Post by trotsky on Jan 1, 2024 19:33:59 GMT 1
Just logged on, been working, watched bits of the match on way down to great Yarmouth, greats not the word, although I did predict a 3 - 0 defeat so no surprises there. Not read the thread but how was our performance in general.
Before they crocked Headley I thought we were looking quite comfortable at holding them to 0-0. I think his injury was the straw that broke the Camel's back and we conceded shortly after.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Jan 1, 2024 19:37:47 GMT 1
Their first goal was well executed by the scorer, but I don’t think their lad intended to play that ball into the player who touched it back to the scorer. He looked as though it was intended to be a cross to the players deeper in the box.
Fine margins really.
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Post by Lovechops on Jan 1, 2024 19:38:35 GMT 1
This is what a few Leicester fans put or similar That’s was tighter than the score line suggests,
Credit to Huddersfield for making a game out of it and didn’t die with out fighting.
At least they didn’t come and just try and park the bus.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Jan 1, 2024 19:42:13 GMT 1
The scoreline is a reflection of the gap in quality between the respective squads. But they did OK in parts today. The last 3 games certainly give cause for hope, but we do need to have a transfer window that brings in some quality and some experience. I’m sure the usual brigade will be out in force in the next few days having a pop via the various open doors presented to them, but I think we’re still OK to climb out of the current position with more room to spare than last season. The "usual suspects" just want to see us win some games. If you're happy with us losing every week, then that's up to you. Where have I said that I’m happy to see us losing every week? I’m just suggesting that this scoreline was a reflection of how the bookies, pundits etc. would have seen it, were they asked to judge the likely outcome. I missed the home game v this lot, but it seems fairly obvious that they have immense squad depth and fire power in comparison with 90% of the teams in the division. I’m pleased that our heads aren’t sagging, which feels like we’re overcoming the mental block of thinking we’re a shit side. We’re actually not as bad as some would make out.
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Post by drewden on Jan 1, 2024 19:51:00 GMT 1
We did well in the first 30 minutes, but that could be because Leicester couldn't be bothered. The Leicester... who sold £90 million's worth of players in the summer and bought £40 million's worth. I was very critical of Wiles in the first half... please lad, get involved in the game! But, second half he played much better. Headley goes from strength to strength. I hope that the injury is not too bad. At the moment he is the best left wing back at the club. Great stuff. We had opportunities in the game on the break, but Thomas is not a natural goalscorer and delays just a bit too long to let off a shot/pass. Poor old Koroma has hit the woodwork in the last two games. Burgzorg would have been much more of a problem for them today. Some said that REG had a decent game, but every time I looked at him he was jogging. Town never gave up. We have shown much more attacking intent in the last three games. Cheers for that, if we have a go and play some signs of progress and lose, thats fine by me, Just hope we sign a few additions soon to greatly help Moore, then we will see if he his upto the job, really hope so.
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Post by iangreaves on Jan 1, 2024 19:55:00 GMT 1
The scoreline is a reflection of the gap in quality between the respective squads. But they did OK in parts today. The last 3 games certainly give cause for hope, but we do need to have a transfer window that brings in some quality and some experience. I’m sure the usual brigade will be out in force in the next few days having a pop via the various open doors presented to them, but I think we’re still OK to climb out of the current position with more room to spare than last season. We have more time than last season to get things right. We can’t opt for the get-out-of-jail card this season. We’ve already sacked him.
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Post by drewden on Jan 1, 2024 19:55:41 GMT 1
Just logged on, been working, watched bits of the match on way down to great Yarmouth, greats not the word, although I did predict a 3 - 0 defeat so no surprises there. Not read the thread but how was our performance in general. Before they crocked Headley I thought we were looking quite comfortable at holding them to 0-0. I think his injury was the straw that broke the Camel's back and we conceded shortly after.
Headley is showing promise, and is becoming a good player.
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Post by terrierbite on Jan 1, 2024 19:57:45 GMT 1
Absolute miracle we aren’t in the bottom three at the minute Yup, incredible really. The 3 below us must be consistently shocking. Just watching Sheff Wed at moment and they are building a head of steam ,genuinely playing well and I don’t fancy our chances against them UTT
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Post by willo on Jan 1, 2024 19:59:28 GMT 1
The "usual suspects" just want to see us win some games. If you're happy with us losing every week, then that's up to you. Where have I said that I’m happy to see us losing every week? I’m just suggesting that this scoreline was a reflection of how the bookies, pundits etc. would have seen it, were they asked to judge the likely outcome. I missed the home game v this lot, but it seems fairly obvious that they have immense squad depth and fire power in comparison with 90% of the teams in the division. I’m pleased that our heads aren’t sagging, which feels like we’re overcoming the mental block of thinking we’re a shit side. We’re actually not as bad as some would make out. Oh for a decent out and out goal scorer.
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Post by drewden on Jan 1, 2024 19:59:32 GMT 1
The "usual suspects" just want to see us win some games. If you're happy with us losing every week, then that's up to you. Where have I said that I’m happy to see us losing every week? I’m just suggesting that this scoreline was a reflection of how the bookies, pundits etc. would have seen it, were they asked to judge the likely outcome. I missed the home game v this lot, but it seems fairly obvious that they have immense squad depth and fire power in comparison with 90% of the teams in the division. I’m pleased that our heads aren’t sagging, which feels like we’re overcoming the mental block of thinking we’re a shit side. We’re actually not as bad as some would make out. That is now 11 teams been beaten at theirs, says it all really.
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Post by willo on Jan 1, 2024 19:59:54 GMT 1
Yup, incredible really. The 3 below us must be consistently shocking. Just watching Sheff Wed at moment and they are building a head of steam ,genuinely playing well and I don’t fancy our chances against them UTT Still shit at finishing though.
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Post by drewden on Jan 1, 2024 20:01:31 GMT 1
And then try and take the positives out of a 4-0 defeat because it's less than we expected. That's definitely a lot less than I'm expecting. Cannot wait to play City, could be a 10- 1 repeat.
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Post by richhtfc on Jan 1, 2024 20:06:47 GMT 1
Before they crocked Headley I thought we were looking quite comfortable at holding them to 0-0. I think his injury was the straw that broke the Camel's back and we conceded shortly after.
Headley is showing promise, and is becoming a good player. He’s on his way to the Premier League for me, not sure what his contract situation is but I’d tie him down.
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Post by nicovaesen on Jan 1, 2024 20:07:32 GMT 1
There’s a lot of very very rich people who have been benefactors of us going up to the greedy league and some who have benefitted from us not progressing. Think a rotting corpse after the lion who was presented it (prem promotion) has finished with it. It can’t be revived so fuck it I’ll feast on the leftovers for a last pay check. Have we actually made any decent decisions since summer 2018? Appointing corberan aside.
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Post by rockwall on Jan 1, 2024 20:09:16 GMT 1
That's definitely a lot less than I'm expecting. Cannot wait to play City, could be a 10- 1 repeat. Wonder of PH will actually be there...
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