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Post by rockwall on Nov 27, 2024 18:52:42 GMT 1
The amount of grown ups getting their knickers in a twist again over a tweet is comedy gold.
7 unbeaten in the league, without playing that well and it is still doom and gloom.
Been that many nibbles that I suspect Daves rod has snapped in 2.
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Post by detox on Nov 27, 2024 19:06:22 GMT 1
The amount of grown ups getting their knickers in a twist again over a tweet is comedy gold. 7 unbeaten in the league, without playing that well and it is still doom and gloom. Been that many nibbles that I suspect Daves rod has snapped in 2. Yawn... It's a f**** forum ! |
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Nov 27, 2024 19:14:13 GMT 1
You honestly believe that Hoyle was about to sink the club into administration unless Kev stepped in? Any opinions on Hoyle aside, we all know that that's not something he was going to do. Really? Yes, we do. Allowing the club to enter administration would have seen Hoyle lose a huge amount of money, which is not something he would have allowed to happen. |
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Nov 27, 2024 19:15:12 GMT 1
The amount of grown ups getting their knickers in a twist again over a tweet is comedy gold. 7 unbeaten in the league, without playing that well and it is still doom and gloom. Been that many nibbles that I suspect Daves rod has snapped in 2. You keep that head firmly buried and let the rest of us deal with reality fella. |
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Post by ldr on Nov 27, 2024 19:56:22 GMT 1
It’s not about a tweet. It’s about the direction of travel.
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Post by leroy212 on Nov 27, 2024 20:18:12 GMT 1
Yes, we do. Allowing the club to enter administration would have seen Hoyle lose a huge amount of money, which is not something he would have allowed to happen. Dean said he was going to put the club in administration as it was the only way he could the shares off Phil to sell the club |
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Post by rockwall on Nov 27, 2024 21:02:23 GMT 1
The amount of grown ups getting their knickers in a twist again over a tweet is comedy gold. 7 unbeaten in the league, without playing that well and it is still doom and gloom. Been that many nibbles that I suspect Daves rod has snapped in 2. Yawn... It's a f**** forum ! Yes, and your point is what? |
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Post by rockwall on Nov 27, 2024 21:08:51 GMT 1
The amount of grown ups getting their knickers in a twist again over a tweet is comedy gold. 7 unbeaten in the league, without playing that well and it is still doom and gloom. Been that many nibbles that I suspect Daves rod has snapped in 2. You keep that head firmly buried and let the rest of us deal with reality fella. It is nothing to do with reality. It is the manner in which grown adults are responding to a tweet and how wound up they get about it. Is the striker situation concerning? Of course it bloody is. Doesn't take much to notice. Is our current run papering over cracks? Absolutely. Not once have I buried my head in the sand. And if you want reality, we are in a decent position, without playing well at all. We are 4 points behind Birmingham who were apparently going to storm the league. They only also have a +3 GD better than us. They spent 35m, which again some posters were moaning we should be doing the same to show 'ambition'. Can just see the meltdown now had we spent 35m and were currently sitting where we are. |
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Nov 27, 2024 21:10:14 GMT 1
I feel for Dave. He makes a positive tweet and the precious ones are out in force condemning him and judging his motives and pedigree.
I know just how that feels.
Look at people's hearts and motivations instead of being playground bullies ganging up on a poster.
It feels like folk aren't allowed to be positive on here because some would rather wallow in doom and gloom.
How shameful that he felt he had to put a lot of time and effort into explaining his motives
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Post by Captainslapper on Nov 27, 2024 21:19:55 GMT 1
Yes, we do. Allowing the club to enter administration would have seen Hoyle lose a huge amount of money, which is not something he would have allowed to happen. So you dont think Hoyle has lost a huge amount of money? Pretty sure youre wrong about that and if he wanted to reduce that ( it being his priority apparently) he could have sold various players for millions before handing the club over. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Nov 27, 2024 21:26:52 GMT 1
Yes, we do. Allowing the club to enter administration would have seen Hoyle lose a huge amount of money, which is not something he would have allowed to happen. Dean said he was going to put the club in administration as it was the only way he could the shares off Phil to sell the club Not off Phil,,..off Pure's administrators ..but otherwise, yes I think that was basically it. |
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Post by Ginger Ogre on Nov 27, 2024 21:35:32 GMT 1
I feel for Dave. He makes a positive tweet and the precious ones are out in force condemning him and judging his motives and pedigree. I know just how that feels. Look at people's hearts and motivations instead of being playground bullies ganging up on a poster. It feels like folk aren't allowed to be positive on here because some would rather wallow in doom and gloom. How shameful that he felt he had to put a lot of time and effort into explaining his motives This is deeper than the one Tweet though, Pete. Its about the context behind it. Dave will say different but certainly the one quoting a Town fan with the score was done to provoke and get a reaction, which it has to be fair. Not sure if you use social media but if you do you'll see lots of instances of Dave and Kev name calling fans. Is that acceptable? How would you feel if you expressed an opinion and 2 blokes started calling you names and mocking you? You mention playground bullies in your post, thats ironic given thats the way they come across sometimes. People are absolutely allowed to be positive, however in doing so they dont need to resort to cheap shots at others, especially when they are discussing perfectly legitimate concerns, concerns that are known to them by all accounts. Dave himself has said he his happy to be judged on his messages. If people form a negative opinion on them thenz by Daves own admission thats absolutely fine. |
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Post by rougeboy31 on Nov 27, 2024 21:39:38 GMT 1
It reminds me-of that Sean Jarvis ‘so what’ tweet. But much more often. They clearly don’t know what pushing our buttons means. We might be in the playoffs, we might have matched last seasons win total but we aren’t stupid, we can see what’s going on on the pitch.
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Nov 27, 2024 21:48:46 GMT 1
I feel for Dave. He makes a positive tweet and the precious ones are out in force condemning him and judging his motives and pedigree. I know just how that feels. Look at people's hearts and motivations instead of being playground bullies ganging up on a poster. It feels like folk aren't allowed to be positive on here because some would rather wallow in doom and gloom. How shameful that he felt he had to put a lot of time and effort into explaining his motives This is deeper than the one Tweet though, Pete. Its about the context behind it. Dave will see different but certainly the one quoting a Town fan with the score was done to provoke and get a reaction, which it has to be fair. Not sure if you use social media but if you do you'll see lots of instances of Dave and Kev name calling fans. Is that acceptable? How would you feel if you expressed an opinion and 2 blokes started calling you names and mocking you? You mention playground bullies in your post, thats ironic given thats the way they come across sometimes. People are absolutely allowed to be positive, however in doing so they dont need to resort to cheap shots at others, especially when they are discussing perfectly legitimate concerns, concerns that are known to them by all accounts. Dave himself has said he his happy to be judged on his messages. If people form a negative opinion on them thenz by Daves own admission thats absolutely fine. I'm not on X and am glad I'm not. I have utmost resoect for you Pozza but assessing context is subjective. Why do some folk rush into seeing negativity and feel so angry about stuff on social media? |
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Nov 27, 2024 21:53:30 GMT 1
I feel for Dave. He makes a positive tweet and the precious ones are out in force condemning him and judging his motives and pedigree. I know just how that feels. Look at people's hearts and motivations instead of being playground bullies ganging up on a poster. It feels like folk aren't allowed to be positive on here because some would rather wallow in doom and gloom. How shameful that he felt he had to put a lot of time and effort into explaining his motives So it's OK for KN and CD to gang up on your fellow fans, but not OK for fans to give it them back? |
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Post by duncfost01 on Nov 27, 2024 22:06:10 GMT 1
Social Media if you post and you choose for your tweets to be made public then you open up people reading them and replying.
Both Kev and Dave make their tweets public.
They don’t make them private to those who only they follow.
It’s clear to me that neither really understands football in the UK. Playing in league one doesn’t really mean that much to them. They think as long as we are winning then fans will be happy.
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Post by Ginger Ogre on Nov 27, 2024 22:08:31 GMT 1
This is deeper than the one Tweet though, Pete. Its about the context behind it. Dave will see different but certainly the one quoting a Town fan with the score was done to provoke and get a reaction, which it has to be fair. Not sure if you use social media but if you do you'll see lots of instances of Dave and Kev name calling fans. Is that acceptable? How would you feel if you expressed an opinion and 2 blokes started calling you names and mocking you? You mention playground bullies in your post, thats ironic given thats the way they come across sometimes. People are absolutely allowed to be positive, however in doing so they dont need to resort to cheap shots at others, especially when they are discussing perfectly legitimate concerns, concerns that are known to them by all accounts. Dave himself has said he his happy to be judged on his messages. If people form a negative opinion on them thenz by Daves own admission thats absolutely fine. I'm not on X and am glad I'm not. I have utmost resoect for you Pozza but assessing context is subjective. Why do some folk rush into seeing negativity and feel so angry about stuff on social media? I've no idea, I can only speak for myself. If you're not on X then with respect you wont understand the context so its hard for you to comment without knowing the whole background to the messages last night. I got involved in a conversation because I saw both Kev and Dave throw what were, in my opinion, abusive messages to a fan who was having a conversation with someone else, and as both are representatives of the club (officially or otherwise) I didn't like it and told them both I don't think its professional and its starting to grate on an ever growing number of people. To be fair both responded and we had a litte discussion on it. Both actually appreciated the angle I was come in from, and both said they thought the way they communicated was fine and would likely continue in the same way and if fans form an opinion then so be it. This thread is simply fans discussing their opinions on them both and their methods. Some think its absolutely fine, some dont. Nobody is right or wrong. Last night Dave posted and I and others formed a view on said posts and thats whats being discussed in this thread. FWIW, and I said exactly this to both Dave and Kev, they get shit and I absolutely believe they have a right to reply. However, IMO there is a way in which to do so. They seem to have a different idea on how to do it, which is fine, its up to them, however they have to appreciate that their method may not be universally liked and it will attract scrutiny from others. |
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Post by incognito on Nov 27, 2024 22:11:44 GMT 1
Not specific to this latest fallout, but, for me, the biggest downside to Dave and KN's online presence is the indirect impact it seems to have on the general standard of HTAFC discussion on this website and elsewhere, with various posters continuously churning out repetitive, attention-seeking hyperbole on virtually any issue due to a sense that they're being listened to now.
Or maybe that's just the internet these days...
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Post by giveusanaitch on Nov 27, 2024 22:21:40 GMT 1
@justasmithers I still think you're missing something re the positivity thing. Yes, people want to celebrate wins but there is an air around the place that it's on the cusp of all falling apart again because the playing squad are performing poorly in a poor league. A lot, including myself, are seeing the games as a grind. The football on show is inflexible and severely lacks quality but we're scraping results. Considering not so long ago we were one game off the Prem and there were still a few suggesting we could be the worst ever team to be up there if we went up with that squad, I can see why some don't take to what you post. The team isn't filling people with optimism - that's the key. Not the here and now. And it's not entitlement. It's taking in to consideration the here and now, and tomorrow. They can't be separated. We don't want a sticking plaster of a season. We want quality, and a team and set of staff that we can believe in. Some elements of that are wavering.
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Nov 27, 2024 22:49:43 GMT 1
I'm not on X and am glad I'm not. I have utmost resoect for you Pozza but assessing context is subjective. Why do some folk rush into seeing negativity and feel so angry about stuff on social media? I've no idea, I can only speak for myself. If you're not on X then with respect you wont understand the context so its hard for you to comment without knowing the whole background to the messages last night. I got involved in a conversation because I saw both Kev and Dave throw what were, in my opinion, abusive messages to a fan who was having a conversation with someone else, and as both are representatives of the club (officially or otherwise) I didn't like it and told them both I don't think its professional and its starting to grate on an ever growing number of people. To be fair both responded and we had a litte discussion on it. Both actually appreciated the angle I was come in from, and both said they thought the way they communicated was fine and would likely continue in the same way and if fans form an opinion then so be it. This thread is simply fans discussing their opinions on them both and their methods. Some think its absolutely fine, some dont. Nobody is right or wrong. Last night Dave posted and I and others formed a view on said posts and thats whats being discussed in this thread. FWIW, and I said exactly this to both Dave and Kev, they get shit and I absolutely believe they have a right to reply. However, IMO there is a way in which to do so. They seem to have a different idea on how to do it, which is fine, its up to them, however they have to appreciate that their method may not be universally liked and it will attract scrutiny from others. Thanks Pozza. I accept that I struggle to see the context when it translates onto DATM. I made a thread on here a few weeks ago entitled 'We're getting there'. I believed that we were on the turn but received some awful and very angry responses including being accused of being a w×××××× and a wind-up merchant. Since my post, I think we've won 5 and drawn 2. I haven't received a single apology from those who were angry or abusive. By their deeds ye shall know them |
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Nov 27, 2024 22:53:09 GMT 1
I feel for Dave. He makes a positive tweet and the precious ones are out in force condemning him and judging his motives and pedigree. I know just how that feels. Look at people's hearts and motivations instead of being playground bullies ganging up on a poster. It feels like folk aren't allowed to be positive on here because some would rather wallow in doom and gloom. How shameful that he felt he had to put a lot of time and effort into explaining his motives So it's OK for KN and CD to gang up on your fellow fans, but not OK for fans to give it them back? Just try and step back and listen to yourself Chris. You're older and wiser than this nonsense |
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Post by shawsie on Nov 27, 2024 23:04:53 GMT 1
@justasmithers I still think you're missing something re the positivity thing. Yes, people want to celebrate wins but there is an air around the place that it's on the cusp of all falling apart again because the playing squad are performing poorly in a poor league. A lot, including myself, are seeing the games as a grind. The football on show is inflexible and severely lacks quality but we're scraping results. Considering not so long ago we were one game off the Prem and there were still a few suggesting we could be the worst ever team to be up there if we went up with that squad, I can see why some don't take to what you post. The team isn't filling people with optimism - that's the key. Not the here and now. And it's not entitlement. It's taking in to consideration the here and now, and tomorrow. They can't be separated. We don't want a sticking plaster of a season. We want quality, and a team and set of staff that we can believe in. Some elements of that are wavering. Whilst I get your point entirely, turning this ship around wasn't going to be easy or instant. It's a genuinely poor watch right now.....but we are 5th and have responded positively to the tamworth debacle. Small steps and hopefully something to build on. One thing we do need though is unity..........the big thing with the wagner era was the way he unified everything on and off the field - it makes such a difference. Messrs Carmichael and Nagle clearly care - they perhaps don't quite get the nuances of English football yet at times, but let's disagree in an adult way at times......none of dunc's pinot infused rants which help nobody please. Anyway.....a wkd off then 9 games in 5 wks which will give us a real barometer of where we are likely to end up imho. |
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Post by seasonticket on Nov 27, 2024 23:09:42 GMT 1
I feel for Dave. He makes a positive tweet and the precious ones are out in force condemning him and judging his motives and pedigree. I know just how that feels. Look at people's hearts and motivations instead of being playground bullies ganging up on a poster. It feels like folk aren't allowed to be positive on here because some would rather wallow in doom and gloom. How shameful that he felt he had to put a lot of time and effort into explaining his motives A marvellous riposte to all the negativity…. |
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Post by Essex Terrier on Nov 27, 2024 23:25:10 GMT 1
The amount of grown ups getting their knickers in a twist again over a tweet is comedy gold. 7 unbeaten in the league, without playing that well and it is still doom and gloom. Been that many nibbles that I suspect Daves rod has snapped in 2. Yawn... It's a f**** forum ! Oh no it isn't!! (Too soon?) |
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Post by Bubbles on Nov 27, 2024 23:36:31 GMT 1
I feel for Dave. He makes a positive tweet and the precious ones are out in force condemning him and judging his motives and pedigree. I know just how that feels. Look at people's hearts and motivations instead of being playground bullies ganging up on a poster. It feels like folk aren't allowed to be positive on here because some would rather wallow in doom and gloom. How shameful that he felt he had to put a lot of time and effort into explaining his motives I’m all for positivity but that tweet just shows how clueless they really are. He honestly thought things are good now when he posted that “look,we’ve won as many games as last season already…go HUD Town.” We shouldn’t even be in this division! As if having a prize giveaway on the day we got relegated wasn’t out of touch enough…. |
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Post by townarentbest on Nov 28, 2024 1:07:41 GMT 1
You keep that head firmly buried and let the rest of us deal with reality fella. It is nothing to do with reality. It is the manner in which grown adults are responding to a tweet and how wound up they get about it. Is the striker situation concerning? Of course it bloody is. Doesn't take much to notice. Is our current run papering over cracks? Absolutely. Not once have I buried my head in the sand. And if you want reality, we are in a decent position, without playing well at all. We are 4 points behind Birmingham who were apparently going to storm the league. They only also have a +3 GD better than us. They spent 35m, which again some posters were moaning we should be doing the same to show 'ambition'. Can just see the meltdown now had we spent 35m and were currently sitting where we are. To be fair if we’d spent £35m and were sitting where we are, a meltdown would be reasonable. if that’s what Brum have truly spent then I’d imagine there’s a meltdown going on, as that expenditure builds a Championship play off squad, anything less than a League 1 title is shockingly poor. |
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Post by dugnet on Nov 28, 2024 1:44:20 GMT 1
Although I can perfectly understand the frustration boiling over on both sides of the owner and fan base fence I am really struggling to see what purpose it is serving, other than winding people up.
Arguing over the current make up of the squad isn't going to change the make up of the squad now. The truth is the person who needs to be the barometer of the quality, and what is required, is Michael Duff. I have heard enough from him to believe he'll be frank in his opinion and what is required. Until we reach February we can't really judge the action taken to address shortcomings.
The, I am afraid to say, tedious bickering between some fans and club representatives is tiresome. Some fans are unlikely to ever be completely on board with our owner and his team. By the same token the owner and his team reserve the right to fire back a criticism but only serve to inflame a debate they're unlikely to win.
It really needs to stop but, of course, it won’t.
At somepoint we will hopefully get a degree of consensus and alignment.
Time to sit back and let the players play, Duff manage and us support. I know it's not very convincing right now but I really don't see much point in continuing to adopt a confrontational manner, on both sides.
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Post by irverino on Nov 28, 2024 1:59:19 GMT 1
Anyway Dave we had a quick chat & a laugh in the pub tonight about your tweets.......Good news is your not barred, YET..UTT.
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Post by Justasmithers on Nov 28, 2024 2:56:36 GMT 1
I feel for Dave. He makes a positive tweet and the precious ones are out in force condemning him and judging his motives and pedigree. I know just how that feels. Look at people's hearts and motivations instead of being playground bullies ganging up on a poster. It feels like folk aren't allowed to be positive on here because some would rather wallow in doom and gloom. How shameful that he felt he had to put a lot of time and effort into explaining his motives This is deeper than the one Tweet though, Pete. It’s about the context behind it. Dave will say different but certainly the one quoting a Town fan with the score was done to provoke and get a reaction, which it has to be fair. Not sure if you use social media but if you do you'll see lots of instances of Dave and Kev name calling fans. Is that acceptable? How would you feel if you expressed an opinion and 2 blokes started calling you names and mocking you? You mention playground bullies in your post, thats ironic given thats the way they come across sometimes. People are absolutely allowed to be positive, however in doing so they dont need to resort to cheap shots at others, especially when they are discussing perfectly legitimate concerns, concerns that are known to them by all accounts. Dave himself has said he his happy to be judged on his messages. If people form a negative opinion on them thenz by Daves own admission thats absolutely fine. This is 100% where I should let this go, but I’m a stubborn idiot. I’m happy to be judged on my messages, but I’d like to get it right. What specific name calling are we referring to when we were being “playground bullies”? “Negative Neary”? I’m honest to god asking you what they were, maybe I missed something. “Provoking a reaction?” Yeah that’s fair, I was hoping for a smile. That wasn’t me mocking or being condescending, it was me saying, as I’ve said here in this thread, “hey we won, can we smile for a day?” If that’s not what they want to do, that’s ok. I’m not a fan gatekeeper. People can fan how they want to fan. My only issue here is you’re making it seem like Kevin and I are out on the prowl for naysaying Town Fan looking for blood if they dare say anything negative. The reality is more like this, forgive the language: Twitter person: “Hey Dave you tosser! Tell your cu*t friend Kev to f*ck off back to America and take Carthorse with him!” Me: hey Negative ______, we’ve won today. Can’t we be happy?” Some other fans: “HOW DARE THEY ANTAGONIZE FANS WHO HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE 1861 HOW CHEEKY AND NAIVE AND PATRONIZING” I’m obviously dramatizing but not that much. Search my mentions and “Town” and see what you find, not to mention the direct messages I’ll happily share privately. And here’s the thing: it’s FINE. I’m fine with it it’s part of the gig and passion is passion. I’m 100% not complaining, but when I’m called a bully or playground name caller you’re going to get an eye roll so huge from me they might fall out the back of my head. And yes, it’s Twitter and could easily be ignored. I think that’s the “standard” you talk about- be the bigger man, let it go, etc- but you also say I’m ok responding and being judged for it. As far as not understanding things, though it’s not exactly the same, I’d remind you I’ve been a fan of the Sacramento Kings my entire life. The team that just literally broke a 100 year old record for futility. No championships. Never even been to a championship. Year after year. Including this year that’s currently 16 games in of 82, and I already know we likely suck. And yet, a few times a year, I’ll be happy after wins, even knowing that in the long run we’ve no chance at a title (in a league where over half the teams make the playoffs). And yea I know it’s American net ball that people only play when it rains outside, but it’s what we have and I’m a die-hard. Even without relegation. So far it appears I’m guilty of: - being naive - name calling - daring to be positive after a win - being tone deaf - not reading the room - being a bully As if having a handful of fans calling you a c*nt because you pointed out we matched our win total last year makes me the bully. Sounds strange to me. Anyway there’s no win here. It’s ok. It’s not for everyone, and honestly the football is the product, not some moron’s tweets (me, I’m the moron to be clear). As Pozza said, I will be me, be judged on it, as will KN. Everything I say or do here or online comes from the place of loving this team and fanbase, but hey maybe the interactions are overrated. Either way I’ll see you at Bolton. Look for the guy with the big nose smoking at the half and come on up and say hello (or whatever you wish). As long as we get three points. |
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Post by FloridaTerrier on Nov 28, 2024 5:58:48 GMT 1
This is deeper than the one Tweet though, Pete. It’s about the context behind it. Dave will say different but certainly the one quoting a Town fan with the score was done to provoke and get a reaction, which it has to be fair. Not sure if you use social media but if you do you'll see lots of instances of Dave and Kev name calling fans. Is that acceptable? How would you feel if you expressed an opinion and 2 blokes started calling you names and mocking you? You mention playground bullies in your post, thats ironic given thats the way they come across sometimes. People are absolutely allowed to be positive, however in doing so they dont need to resort to cheap shots at others, especially when they are discussing perfectly legitimate concerns, concerns that are known to them by all accounts. Dave himself has said he his happy to be judged on his messages. If people form a negative opinion on them thenz by Daves own admission thats absolutely fine. This is 100% where I should let this go, but I’m a stubborn idiot. I’m happy to be judged on my messages, but I’d like to get it right. What specific name calling are we referring to when we were being “playground bullies”? “Negative Neary”? I’m honest to god asking you what they were, maybe I missed something. “Provoking a reaction?” Yeah that’s fair, I was hoping for a smile. That wasn’t me mocking or being condescending, it was me saying, as I’ve said here in this thread, “hey we won, can we smile for a day?” If that’s not what they want to do, that’s ok. I’m not a fan gatekeeper. People can fan how they want to fan. My only issue here is you’re making it seem like Kevin and I are out on the prowl for naysaying Town Fan looking for blood if they dare say anything negative. The reality is more like this, forgive the language: Twitter person: “Hey Dave you tosser! Tell your cu*t friend Kev to f*ck off back to America and take Carthorse with him!” Me: hey Negative ______, we’ve won today. Can’t we be happy?” Some other fans: “HOW DARE THEY ANTAGONIZE FANS WHO HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE 1861 HOW CHEEKY AND NAIVE AND PATRONIZING” I’m obviously dramatizing but not that much. Search my mentions and “Town” and see what you find, not to mention the direct messages I’ll happily share privately. And here’s the thing: it’s FINE. I’m fine with it it’s part of the gig and passion is passion. I’m 100% not complaining, but when I’m called a bully or playground name caller you’re going to get an eye roll so huge from me they might fall out the back of my head. And yes, it’s Twitter and could easily be ignored. I think that’s the “standard” you talk about- be the bigger man, let it go, etc- but you also say I’m ok responding and being judged for it. As far as not understanding things, though it’s not exactly the same, I’d remind you I’ve been a fan of the Sacramento Kings my entire life. The team that just literally broke a 100 year old record for futility. No championships. Never even been to a championship. Year after year. Including this year that’s currently 16 games in of 82, and I already know we likely suck. And yet, a few times a year, I’ll be happy after wins, even knowing that in the long run we’ve no chance at a title (in a league where over half the teams make the playoffs). And yea I know it’s American net ball that people only play when it rains outside, but it’s what we have and I’m a die-hard. Even without relegation. So far it appears I’m guilty of: - being naive - name calling - daring to be positive after a win - being tone deaf - not reading the room - being a bully As if having a handful of fans calling you a c*nt because you pointed out we matched our win total last year makes me the bully. Sounds strange to me. Anyway there’s no win here. It’s ok. It’s not for everyone, and honestly the football is the product, not some moron’s tweets (me, I’m the moron to be clear). As Pozza said, I will be me, be judged on it, as will KN. Everything I say or do here or online comes from the place of loving this team and fanbase, but hey maybe the interactions are overrated. Either way I’ll see you at Bolton. Look for the guy with the big nose smoking at the half and come on up and say hello (or whatever you wish). As long as we get three points. Hoping that people will and are polite to you bud. But, also hoping that folk randomly just approach you and say "Gavin Newsom is a c*nt."  |
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