Injuries

[barryfromkent]

I honestly cannot remember a season like it, the injury list seems to be never ending.

Maxwell - Hamstring
Chapman - Ankle

Ruffles - Groin
Pearson - Calf
Headley - Ankle
Turton - Knee
Nakayama - International

Harrat - hamstring
Ward - achillies
Jones - hamstring
Hudlin - Concussion
Burgzorg - Ankle
Radulovic - groin

What on earth are they doing in training?

[durhamterrier]

Last season just as bad . Not sure who is the conditioning coach at Town

[steo1986]

Jan 14, 2024 15:47:14 GMT 1 durhamterrier said:

Last season just as bad . Not sure who is the conditioning coach at Town

Head of Strength & IDP www.htafc.com/matches/technical-staff/physical/callum-adams/

Head of Physical Performance www.htafc.com/matches/technical-staff/physical/paul-bower/

Senior Physiotherapist www.htafc.com/matches/technical-staff/medical/liam-kershaw/

Senior Physiotherapist www.htafc.com/matches/technical-staff/medical/craig-sedgwick/

[Sparrow]

Does anyone actually have any idea how long Burgzorg is out for. I’ve not heard any specific time frames mentioned, other than he’s out for a period of time

same with Headley

[iangreaves]

I recall Neil Warnock in his first spell saying a good physio was worth a load of extra points over a season.

[wildbillthetownfan]

Jan 14, 2024 19:23:35 GMT 1 Sparrow said:

Does anyone actually have any idea how long Burgzorg is out for. I’ve not heard any specific time frames mentioned, other than he’s out for a period of time

same with Headley

I was told last Sunday that he will be out for six weeks.

[Dillinger]

Jan 14, 2024 19:23:35 GMT 1 Sparrow said:

Does anyone actually have any idea how long Burgzorg is out for. I’ve not heard any specific time frames mentioned, other than he’s out for a period of time

same with Headley

We are really missing him, yesterday I think he would have been the difference between 1 point and 3...

So, soon hopefully

[overtonterrierspirit]

It would be interesting to get the complete story about the injury situation.
In the modern safety first age of having to follow protocols etc, are they following set procedures for each type of injury which determines length of time out of action?
I say this because I recall NW having a conversation with the injured Danny Ward last year, who informed him that he was able to play.

[arnie]

Jan 14, 2024 21:07:19 GMT 1 overtonterrierspirit said:

It would be interesting to get the complete story about the injury situation.
In the modern safety first age of having to follow protocols etc, are they following set procedures for each type of injury which determines length of time out of action?
I say this because I recall NW having a conversation with the injured Danny Ward last year, who informed him that he was able to play.

Ask Darren Moore that would be the best interview ever, he could invite Buzz Fizz to help him explain 😂

[utttrooper]

Does anyone know when Radulovic will be back

[Sparrow]

Jan 14, 2024 20:11:19 GMT 1 wildbillthetownfan said:

Jan 14, 2024 19:23:35 GMT 1 Sparrow said:

Does anyone actually have any idea how long Burgzorg is out for. I’ve not heard any specific time frames mentioned, other than he’s out for a period of time

same with Headley

I was told last Sunday that he will be out for six weeks.

6 weeks from his injury or 6 weeks from last Sunday…..?


On a scale of 1-10 how reliable is your source. I once remember someone saying he’d been reliably told Naby Sarr was out for 6 weeks, when he was actually already back in training and available for the next match

[Christ in Shades (art)]

Jan 14, 2024 20:40:05 GMT 1 Dillinger said:

Jan 14, 2024 19:23:35 GMT 1 Sparrow said:

Does anyone actually have any idea how long Burgzorg is out for. I’ve not heard any specific time frames mentioned, other than he’s out for a period of time

same with Headley

We are really missing him, yesterday I think he would have been the difference between 1 point and 3...

So, soon hopefully

We'd have almost certainly won 2-1 yesterday if Burgzorg had started. If I were Town I would be asking Mainz how much they want for him in this window let alone in the summer.

[arnie]

We need a new sub board called "Ask Darren"
Would be great fun 😴

[Christ in Shades (art)]

Jan 14, 2024 15:05:08 GMT 1 barryfromkent said:

I honestly cannot remember a season like it, the injury list seems to be never ending.

Maxwell - Hamstring
Chapman - Ankle

Ruffles - Groin
Pearson - Calf
Headley - Ankle
Turton - Knee
Nakayama - International

Harrat - hamstring
Ward - achillies
Jones - hamstring
Hudlin - Concussion
Burgzorg - Ankle
Radulovic - groin

What on earth are they doing in training?

Think they must be hod carrying and playing Gladiators in training.

[Orinoco]

Good job these overpaid pansies didn't play in 70s n 80s when I was introduced to football, surprised they ain't out for a month when have their sleeve tatoos

[overtonterrierspirit]

Jan 14, 2024 21:28:12 GMT 1 arnie said:

We need a new sub board called "Ask Darren"
Would be great fun 😴

A bit like “Ask Elvis” on the Steve Wright show.

[Porrohman]

Jan 14, 2024 21:28:12 GMT 1 arnie said:

We need a new sub board called "Ask Darren"
Would be great fun 😴

Errr.....erm.....

[Porrohman]

Jan 14, 2024 21:30:35 GMT 1 overtonterrierspirit said:

Jan 14, 2024 21:28:12 GMT 1 arnie said:

We need a new sub board called "Ask Darren"
Would be great fun 😴

A bit like “Ask Elvis” on the Steve Wright show.

Presumably it'd be more entertaining than that arsehole though

[wildbillthetownfan]

Jan 14, 2024 21:27:10 GMT 1 Sparrow said:

Jan 14, 2024 20:11:19 GMT 1 wildbillthetownfan said:

I was told last Sunday that he will be out for six weeks.

6 weeks from his injury or 6 weeks from last Sunday…..?


On a scale of 1-10 how reliable is your source. I once remember someone saying he’d been reliably told Naby Sarr was out for 6 weeks, when he was actually already back in training and available for the next match

I would imagine it will be six weeks from his injury and i don't have a clue how reliable his information is.

[utttrooper]

3 seasons out of the past 4 we've had an injury crisis with 10+ players out at points but this season feels the worse by far as it is by far the longest.

[wildhogg]

Knowing our club, the deafening silence is probably a signal that Burgzorg and Radulovic are both going to be out for ages (Burgzorg for the rest of the season, I reckon). The bombshells will likely be dropped at some point this week.

[pinstripe]

It’s simple, Darren Moore is employing Murderball on the training pitch. Of course he’s unsure of what that actually means as he hands out medicine balls and steel toe capped boots before telling his players not to lean back before the shot.

[ginner]

Jan 14, 2024 15:05:08 GMT 1 barryfromkent said:

I honestly cannot remember a season like it, the injury list seems to be never ending.

Maxwell - Hamstring (Game Injury)
Chapman - Ankle (Training)

Ruffles - Groin (Game Last Season)
Pearson - Calf (Game Injury)
Headley - Ankle (Game Injury)
Turton - Knee (Game Injury Last Season)
Nakayama - International (Why on list as not injured)

Harrat - hamstring (Game Injury)
Ward - achillies (Training Injury)
Jones - hamstring (Training Injury)
Hudlin - Concussion (Training Injury)
Burgzorg - Ankle (Game Injury)
Radulovic - groin (Training Injury)

What on earth are they doing in training?

Most of the injuries you have on the list from games not training!

So 5 out of the list are from training and the rest are from games but according to loads on here, Facebook and Twitter they have all be injured in training!

[castlehillterrier]

Jan 15, 2024 9:29:06 GMT 1 ginner said:

Jan 14, 2024 15:05:08 GMT 1 barryfromkent said:

I honestly cannot remember a season like it, the injury list seems to be never ending.

Maxwell - Hamstring (Game Injury)
Chapman - Ankle (Training)

Ruffles - Groin (Game Last Season)
Pearson - Calf (Game Injury)
Headley - Ankle (Game Injury)
Turton - Knee (Game Injury Last Season)
Nakayama - International (Why on list as not injured)

Harrat - hamstring (Game Injury)
Ward - achillies (Training Injury)
Jones - hamstring (Training Injury)
Hudlin - Concussion (Training Injury)
Burgzorg - Ankle (Game Injury)
Radulovic - groin (Training Injury)

What on earth are they doing in training?

Most of the injuries you have on the list from games not training!

So 5 out of the list are from training and the rest are from games but according to loads on here, Facebook and Twitter they have all be injured in training!

Ward isnt training, Danny has a problem with his achilles same problem that was out for earlier in the season. It was pushed too hard too soon before and was not fully recovered. 

Jones, it honestly could be walking to his house he has a problem with hamstrings a little like many fast players, this is something that can be treated and prevented in the future a lot of it is about growing and conditioning for Pat. 

[ben1987]

We should never have sacked Dr John Iga.

[ginner]

Jan 15, 2024 9:51:00 GMT 1 castlehillterrier said:

Jan 15, 2024 9:29:06 GMT 1 ginner said:

Most of the injuries you have on the list from games not training!

So 5 out of the list are from training and the rest are from games but according to loads on here, Facebook and Twitter they have all be injured in training!

Ward isnt training, Danny has a problem with his achilles same problem that was out for earlier in the season. It was pushed too hard too soon before and was not fully recovered. 

Jones, it honestly could be walking to his house he has a problem with hamstrings a little like many fast players, this is something that can be treated and prevented in the future a lot of it is about growing and conditioning for Pat. 

Thanks Castlehillterrier for that Ward and Jones ones. I was just trying to show that not all the injuries are training related like everybody keeps banging on about.

So out of the list that now makes only 3 training injuries.

So not as bad as everybody says. So not DM's training methods at all really.

[castlehillterrier]

Jan 15, 2024 10:29:56 GMT 1 ginner said:

Jan 15, 2024 9:51:00 GMT 1 castlehillterrier said:

Ward isnt training, Danny has a problem with his achilles same problem that was out for earlier in the season. It was pushed too hard too soon before and was not fully recovered. 

Jones, it honestly could be walking to his house he has a problem with hamstrings a little like many fast players, this is something that can be treated and prevented in the future a lot of it is about growing and conditioning for Pat. 

Thanks Castlehillterrier for that Ward and Jones ones. I was just trying to show that not all the injuries are training related like everybody keeps banging on about.

So out of the list that now makes only 3 training injuries.

So not as bad as everybody says. So not DM's training methods at all really.

I think there are many contributing factors to lots of injuries and some out of our control. 

- Possible we can improve preparation and the medical team. 
- bad luck 
- Having purchased many players with previous injury issues. 
- Training / work load 
- lack of player fitness so maybe a level of fitness, conditioning could be improved, if the players are fitter / stronger potentialy you reduce the muscle injuries, if the players are sharper maybe they get to the ball sooner and less impact injuries. 

I Know some changes in the medical team have and are happening currently but its only part of the problem. 

[detox]

part of the problem is the already threadbare squad and thus lack of ability to rotate players, especially when playing twice a week. the injuries then further reduce the chance to rotate which is where we are now...thankfully only playing once a week for now until early March apart from 14th February. We could actually do with 6ft of snow for a month and no games at all..

[Jello Biafra]

Jan 14, 2024 20:11:19 GMT 1 wildbillthetownfan said:

Jan 14, 2024 19:23:35 GMT 1 Sparrow said:

Does anyone actually have any idea how long Burgzorg is out for ?. I’ve not heard any specific time frames mentioned, other than he’s out for a period of time

same with Headley

I was told last Sunday that he will be out for six weeks.

On a slight, but related, tangent - this is where there's a distinct lack of 'fairness' in the system.
The Blackburn centre half's assault has left Burgzorg out for a prolonged period, seriously impacting on Town's ability to win points. My understanding is that because he was booked, the incident is considered 'dealt with' and no retrospective action can be taken - although I'm happy to be corrected if that's not the case. However, if he'd elbowed Burgzorg in the face, for instance, then the FA could look at any available footage and punish as they see fit. If memory serves, Dean Saunders fell foul of this 20 odd years ago. Surely, at the very least, it's time to look at this scenario and make a retrospective review possible? The original incident was never just a booking - he was at least 6 feet from the ball and came through the back of Burgzorg too - so a punishment more befitting the crime ought to be able to be applied.

[richhtfc]

Jan 15, 2024 9:51:00 GMT 1 castlehillterrier said:

Jan 15, 2024 9:29:06 GMT 1 ginner said:

Most of the injuries you have on the list from games not training!

So 5 out of the list are from training and the rest are from games but according to loads on here, Facebook and Twitter they have all be injured in training!

Ward isnt training, Danny has a problem with his achilles same problem that was out for earlier in the season. It was pushed too hard too soon before and was not fully recovered. 

Jones, it honestly could be walking to his house he has a problem with hamstrings a little like many fast players, this is something that can be treated and prevented in the future a lot of it is about growing and conditioning for Pat. 

Ward has “tendonitis” is what I’ve heard, probably same as was keeping him out before NW came back.