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Post by boooothy on Jan 20, 2024 22:37:22 GMT 1
How good is Helik? I say it every week but why is no one after him? Putting him on a long term contract would be better than any signing.
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Post by terrier86 on Jan 20, 2024 22:41:03 GMT 1
If we are keeping with this formation, where are the weak points now? Both wing backs and CDM I would say.
I hope Nagles comment about the weak link is Hoggs role, someone more dynamic and I think it transforms the team.
Matos looks great running at people but in his own half looks a liability. Do we have a position for him or trying to shoe horn him in to a team? I don't think we are getting the best out of him.
Worried about Healey, today his legs look gone. He might look better playing closer to Radulovic (who has really impressed so far) Early days but worrying about his mobility.
Overall if we were mid-table and took the game in isolation then the performance today was no-where near as bad as people are making out. Though with the position we are in, games like today almost become must win. Very worrying in that context - Moore needs 4 points from the next 2 or he will probably be gone.
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Post by drewden on Jan 20, 2024 22:45:19 GMT 1
If we are keeping with this formation, where are the weak points now? Both wing backs and CDM I would say. I hope Nagles comment about the weak link is Hoggs role, someone more dynamic and I think it transforms the team. Matos looks great running at people but in his own half looks a liability. Do we have a position for him or trying to shoe horn him in to a team? I don't think we are getting the best out of him. Worried about Healey, today his legs look gone. He might look better playing closer to Radulovic (who has really impressed so far) Early days but worrying about his mobility. Overall if we were mid-table and took the game in isolation then the performance today was no-where near as bad as people are making out. Though with the position we are in, games like today almost become must win. Very worrying in that context - Moore needs 4 points from the next 2 or he will probably be gone. Looking forward to 2 defensive draws, could be thrillers. |
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Post by utttrooper on Jan 20, 2024 22:52:43 GMT 1
If we are keeping with this formation, where are the weak points now? Both wing backs and CDM I would say. I hope Nagles comment about the weak link is Hoggs role, someone more dynamic and I think it transforms the team. Matos looks great running at people but in his own half looks a liability. Do we have a position for him or trying to shoe horn him in to a team? I don't think we are getting the best out of him. Worried about Healey, today his legs look gone. He might look better playing closer to Radulovic (who has really impressed so far) Early days but worrying about his mobility. Overall if we were mid-table and took the game in isolation then the performance today was no-where near as bad as people are making out. Though with the position we are in, games like today almost become must win. Very worrying in that context - Moore needs 4 points from the next 2 or he will probably be gone. Looking forward to 2 defensive draws, could be thrillers. They will be for the other teams if we keep playing like we are |
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Post by irverino on Jan 20, 2024 23:03:19 GMT 1
Lose on Sunday he's gone.Why he's not gone now I don't know. Nagle shouldn't be telling a defensive coach how to be playing football. Get an offensive coach in. That's a pretty damning assessment of the current situation. Fair play for firing the tough questions we all want. Interesting he didn't back Moore going forward - just said he has had a good career and is a nice guy. We must beat QPR!Under DM you would think a draw is most likely, but QPR will probably sell this game out now (even lower tier away end) & the place will be rocking, although the results have not been great later the Rangers fans have not wavered in their belief of boss Marti......We will possibly lose with DM & another (huge) week wasted, bring in AN Other we have a chance of a draw/win. |
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Post by belizian on Jan 20, 2024 23:04:29 GMT 1
Thought we defended OK and broke well - Sky highlights show Blackburn scored one goal and created one other chance - Town scored one goal and created 3 other chances. Perhaps not as bad a display as some are suggesting?
My biggest concern is the change in the way corners are taken now. Under Warnock they were straight into the mix in the 12 yard area. Too often it's now taken short resulting in a waste of a corner. I don't think it's Thomas's idea rather that of the 'dead ball coach' - not sure why we need one.
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Post by Sparrow on Jan 20, 2024 23:12:54 GMT 1
what on earth is Hogg doing for their goal.
How on earth did Rudoni miss
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Post by 28901 on Jan 20, 2024 23:16:26 GMT 1
what on earth is Hogg doing for their goal. How on earth did Rudoni miss Because they're human. |
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Post by mrg on Jan 20, 2024 23:23:56 GMT 1
Its just a mess isnt it, that could be so easily resolved by playing 4 at the back.
The performance was ok today but the swapping and changing and not having a clear mind about whats the right or wrong thing to do in situations is the problem. It looks as if they dont know one another. I know theres new signings but how many times does a man need to be told to play players where they are best rather than fannying around all the time? If Thomas ever plays at right back again blow out my brains.
I like all the signings except the one from watford which I think is an odd 1, 1.9/2m for a 29 year old who has played less than 200 games seems like we've been blagged tbh, but the Slovakian guy looks good and its not my £2m so thanks Kevin.
I think crunch time is coming. QPR will be coming to win and if we aren't (do I need to say 4 at the back AGAIN)! And bang at it from the get go it'll start to look like his passive personality is whats making this happen not the players.
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Post by Sparrow on Jan 20, 2024 23:24:56 GMT 1
what on earth is Hogg doing for their goal. How on earth did Rudoni miss Because they're human. True, but they’re professional footballers. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2024 23:44:56 GMT 1
Pretty poor performance but at 1-1 there were 3 great chances in the game all to us.Can never understand why a guy doesn't square it to a team mate for a tap in.
New additions will keep us up I feel
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Post by 28901 on Jan 20, 2024 23:48:07 GMT 1
True, but they’re professional footballers. When Hogg has a stinker he has a stinker. Today was one. Dreadful all game. However you have weigh it up over his 10 years or whatever at the club. He's earned enough points for the odd fuck up. |
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 20, 2024 23:48:45 GMT 1
Rudi should've scored but it was nowhere near the miss that it was being made out to be on here at the time. Beautifully set up by Josh, awful miss, if he takes a touch, he scores - UTT. Yes but during the game someone said it was like Ronnie Rosenthal (it wasn't) and someone else said it was an open goal from a couple of yards (it wasn't either) |
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Post by stinkypete on Jan 20, 2024 23:51:04 GMT 1
Never mind Rudonis miss, Kasumu has to square it across to Bojan for a tap in! 2 points dropped. The ultimate 6 pointer next week.
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Post by CurlyWurly on Jan 20, 2024 23:51:29 GMT 1
True, but they’re professional footballers. When Hogg has a stinker he has a stinker. Today was one. Dreadful all game. However you have weigh it up over his 10 years or whatever at the club. He's earned enough points for the odd fuck up. This is the issue. Hogg doesn't deserve the odd fuck up. It's professional football, there is no room for sentiment. Arguably the best manager in the world Pep Guardiola sees the start of a decline and they're gone at the click of a finger Can't be many clubs playing a past it player out of sentiment and then continuing to play them when they fuck up repeatedly. |
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Post by griffa on Jan 20, 2024 23:54:57 GMT 1
Beautifully set up by Josh, awful miss, if he takes a touch, he scores - UTT. Yes but during the game someone said it was like Ronnie Rosenthal (it wasn't) and someone else said it was an open goal from a couple of yards (it wasn't either) I like Jack Rudoni, there was a huge groan amongst Town fans at Ewood Park - UTT. |
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 20, 2024 23:58:27 GMT 1
Yes but during the game someone said it was like Ronnie Rosenthal (it wasn't) and someone else said it was an open goal from a couple of yards (it wasn't either) I like Jack Rudoni, there was a huge groan amongst Town fans at Ewood Park - UTT. I'm not surprised. It was a bad miss, just not as bad as I was expecting. |
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Post by stinkypete on Jan 21, 2024 0:03:06 GMT 1
I like Jack Rudoni, there was a huge groan amongst Town fans at Ewood Park - UTT. I'm not surprised. It was a bad miss, just not as bad as I was expecting. Yeah I was expecting 5 yards out centre of goal keeper already grounded and he’d blazed it over! If anything Koroma should’ve just kept going and had a shot himself! |
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Post by Venezuelan Pete on Jan 21, 2024 0:08:06 GMT 1
If we are keeping with this formation, where are the weak points now? Both wing backs and CDM I would say. I hope Nagles comment about the weak link is Hoggs role, someone more dynamic and I think it transforms the team. Matos looks great running at people but in his own half looks a liability. Do we have a position for him or trying to shoe horn him in to a team? I don't think we are getting the best out of him. Worried about Healey, today his legs look gone. He might look better playing closer to Radulovic (who has really impressed so far) Early days but worrying about his mobility. Overall if we were mid-table and took the game in isolation then the performance today was no-where near as bad as people are making out. Though with the position we are in, games like today almost become must win. Very worrying in that context - Moore needs 4 points from the next 2 or he will probably be gone. It's going to take a few weeks for Healey to get up to full match fitness. Today was his first 90 mins of the season. He played 85 mins last week for Watford and before that the most he'd been on the pitch in a single game was just under half an hour. |
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Post by 28901 on Jan 21, 2024 0:10:16 GMT 1
Beautifully set up by Josh, awful miss, if he takes a touch, he scores - UTT. Yes but during the game someone said it was like Ronnie Rosenthal (it wasn't) and someone else said it was an open goal from a couple of yards (it wasn't either) Turns out it wasn't that easy after all |
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Post by terrier86 on Jan 21, 2024 0:13:34 GMT 1
When Hogg has a stinker he has a stinker. Today was one. Dreadful all game. However you have weigh it up over his 10 years or whatever at the club. He's earned enough points for the odd fuck up. This is the issue. Hogg doesn't deserve the odd fuck up. It's professional football, there is no room for sentiment. Arguably the best manager in the world Pep Guardiola sees the start of a decline and they're gone at the click of a finger Can't be many clubs playing a past it player out of sentiment and then continuing to play them when they fuck up repeatedly. Being honest though, who starts before him currently? I'm almost thinking Wiles, defensively don't think he gives the cover, but his passing might improve us...I.e being the quarterback, pass to him, stretch the play and with better passing ability we might be better. |
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Post by CurlyWurly on Jan 21, 2024 0:22:44 GMT 1
This is the issue. Hogg doesn't deserve the odd fuck up. It's professional football, there is no room for sentiment. Arguably the best manager in the world Pep Guardiola sees the start of a decline and they're gone at the click of a finger Can't be many clubs playing a past it player out of sentiment and then continuing to play them when they fuck up repeatedly. Being honest though, who starts before him currently? I'm almost thinking Wiles, defensively don't think he gives the cover, but his passing might improve us...I.e being the quarterback, pass to him, stretch the play and with better passing ability we might be better. There isn't anyone, but how has he not been replaced when realistically we've needed a plan since we got relegated |
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Post by richhtfc on Jan 21, 2024 0:27:52 GMT 1
This is the issue. Hogg doesn't deserve the odd fuck up. It's professional football, there is no room for sentiment. Arguably the best manager in the world Pep Guardiola sees the start of a decline and they're gone at the click of a finger Can't be many clubs playing a past it player out of sentiment and then continuing to play them when they fuck up repeatedly. Being honest though, who starts before him currently? I'm almost thinking Wiles, defensively don't think he gives the cover, but his passing might improve us...I.e being the quarterback, pass to him, stretch the play and with better passing ability we might be better. Hogg needs dropping just to show the rest of the squad he’s droppable. He’s been fucking games up for us ever since he’s been here. He has purple patches of brilliance when he’s our heartbeat but he also cost us so many times it’s untrue. He needs to be accountable, I thought Kasumu would be his replacement but no… then I thought Matos was his replacement but no… On that point why have we brought Matos in? I originally thought he was going to bring dynamism to our attack? We don’t need disrupters we have Hogg and Kasumu. Is the aim to be the best at winning the ball back? What is Matos doing if we’re playing Hogg, we need creativity, is the idea that Matos frees up Hoggy to be more creative because while he has a pass in him he is woeful on the ball and always has been. Why would we plan for two defensive midfielders? |
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Post by JuryDefender on Jan 21, 2024 0:30:54 GMT 1
Was a 1-1 draw at Blackburn an ok result? Yes Please could you explain your thinking how a draw against a team who had lost 7 of their last 9 and conceded 24 goals in that time is a good result? Every fan knows that when you play a team that has just lost 7 of their last 9 and conceded 24 goals in that time, the team normally beats you 1-0. Which makes 1-1 an **OK** result. |
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Post by terrier86 on Jan 21, 2024 0:31:09 GMT 1
Being honest though, who starts before him currently? I'm almost thinking Wiles, defensively don't think he gives the cover, but his passing might improve us...I.e being the quarterback, pass to him, stretch the play and with better passing ability we might be better. There isn't anyone, but how has he not been replaced when realistically we've needed a plan since we got relegated Agreed, it's more our rubbish recruitment and to be fair Nagle is addressing that but he can't correct 5 years of poor management in 6 months. Hogg will always give his best, but right now we need something else. In the mean time we know he will give everything. If its limited, what can we say!? |
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Post by terrier86 on Jan 21, 2024 0:37:18 GMT 1
Being honest though, who starts before him currently? I'm almost thinking Wiles, defensively don't think he gives the cover, but his passing might improve us...I.e being the quarterback, pass to him, stretch the play and with better passing ability we might be better. Hogg needs dropping just to show the rest of the squad he’s droppable. He’s been fucking games up for us ever since he’s been here. He has purple patches of brilliance when he’s our heartbeat but he also cost us so many times it’s untrue. He needs to be accountable, I thought Kasumu would be his replacement but no… then I thought Matos was his replacement but no… On that point why have we brought Matos in? I thought he was going to bring dynamism to our attack? We don’t need disrupters we have Hogg and Kasumu. Is the aim to be the best at winning the ball back? What is Matos doing if we’re playing Hogg, we need creativity, is the idea that Matos frees up Hoggy to be more creative because while he has a pass in him he is woeful on the ball and always has been. Why would we plan for two defensive midfielders? Honestly, I think Hogg is better when we are more positive so he's scrapping for 2nd balls on the half way line or in their half. There's nothing better when the crowd are upbeat and he's part of that press. Then a simple ball. When we have possession, he's useless and slows tempo down as he wants to keep the ball due to his limited creative ability. Kadumu is an enigma...sometimes great and otherwise not. Is he a box to box midfielder or a holding ball winner? Likewise Matos, so far he looks more like someone who like being in the hole between midfield and forward - def not the Hogg role. Agree re Matos on the whole - I don't see his purpose currently and likewise almost feel Matos and Rudoni in the same team might not work. |
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Post by richhtfc on Jan 21, 2024 0:42:36 GMT 1
Hogg needs dropping just to show the rest of the squad he’s droppable. He’s been fucking games up for us ever since he’s been here. He has purple patches of brilliance when he’s our heartbeat but he also cost us so many times it’s untrue. He needs to be accountable, I thought Kasumu would be his replacement but no… then I thought Matos was his replacement but no… On that point why have we brought Matos in? I thought he was going to bring dynamism to our attack? We don’t need disrupters we have Hogg and Kasumu. Is the aim to be the best at winning the ball back? What is Matos doing if we’re playing Hogg, we need creativity, is the idea that Matos frees up Hoggy to be more creative because while he has a pass in him he is woeful on the ball and always has been. Why would we plan for two defensive midfielders? Honestly, I think Hogg is better when we are more positive so he's scrapping for 2nd balls on the half way line or in their half. There's nothing better when the crowd are upbeat and he's part of that press. Then a simple ball. When we have possession, he's useless and slows tempo down as he wants to keep the ball due to his limited creative ability. Kadumu is an enigma...sometimes great and otherwise not. Is he a box to box midfielder or a holding ball winner? Likewise Matos, so far he looks more like someone who like being in the hole between midfield and forward - def not the Hogg role. Agree re Matos on the whole - I don't see his purpose currently and likewise almost feel Matos and Rudoni in the same team might not work. Matos seems an odd acquisition to me because a no. 6 is the least of our problems? |
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Post by detox on Jan 21, 2024 0:42:59 GMT 1
Got a sneaky feeling KN is hanging on to DM until a certain NW is available...
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Post by terrier86 on Jan 21, 2024 0:48:09 GMT 1
Honestly, I think Hogg is better when we are more positive so he's scrapping for 2nd balls on the half way line or in their half. There's nothing better when the crowd are upbeat and he's part of that press. Then a simple ball. When we have possession, he's useless and slows tempo down as he wants to keep the ball due to his limited creative ability. Kadumu is an enigma...sometimes great and otherwise not. Is he a box to box midfielder or a holding ball winner? Likewise Matos, so far he looks more like someone who like being in the hole between midfield and forward - def not the Hogg role. Agree re Matos on the whole - I don't see his purpose currently and likewise almost feel Matos and Rudoni in the same team might not work. Matos seems an odd acquisition to me because a no. 6 is the least of our problems? I have thought the same, he's a good player if we play to his strengths but feels like we are asking him to work on other parts of his game. Thats great for Chelsea but we cannot afford that in our position. I also feel it doesn't help people's assessment of Hogg or Sorba (both of which were probably more exposed at times because Matos hadn't followed his runner) |
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Post by Paphos Terrier on Jan 21, 2024 0:49:24 GMT 1
what on earth is Hogg doing for their goal. How on earth did Rudoni miss Because they're human. Because they're shit Moore like😜 |
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