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Post by Metch on Jan 21, 2024 1:23:46 GMT 1
True, but they’re professional footballers. Professional footballers who are well drilled, have teamwork, a game plan, instill confidence in each other. Then they make less mistakes and hit the back of the net more often. It needs a decent manager to do that and we haven't got one |
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Post by aksaiblue on Jan 21, 2024 2:03:58 GMT 1
All in all, we could have and should have won yesterday, not a bad away performance, let's build on it and sharpen up for the big one next week. UTT
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Post by terrylene on Jan 21, 2024 3:20:12 GMT 1
If you've played football at any level, you'll know that what Hogg did was poor play. And Rudoni missing that chance was abysmal. At least he should have got it on target. Blaming Darren Moore to cover up for those mistakes is completely missing the point. Would anyone on here have not picked either of them two for today's game? If the answer is no, then why have a go at the manager. If the answer is yes, I'd like to know who you'd have played instead of them. And not in hindsight. Would you have not started either of them before the game started ? Players have to be accountable for their actions. Not the bloke who put them in the team.
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Post by Ibiza Town on Jan 21, 2024 7:07:29 GMT 1
I have a lot of respect for Nagle wanting to judge DM only when he has had the right tools to do the job
However, those of us who’ve been around for a bit know that DM isn’t the man for us and won’t be
We’re underperforming even with what we do have.
We’re running out of time, and more importantly, winnable games.
Honourable decision Kevin, but the wrong one
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Post by mightyterrier on Jan 21, 2024 9:35:37 GMT 1
We need to get Jackson and Koroma out of the side as soon as possible, they are weak links.
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Post by dugnet on Jan 21, 2024 9:54:50 GMT 1
Having posted at half time, while choking on smoke from a flare that some moron had set off in the concourse, I thought it only fair to provide a rounded view of the 90 minutes.
We were better in the 2nd half but spurned one glaring opportunity and was thwarted by some decent keeping with another. Bojan made a massive difference, keeping him fit and on the pitch is absolutely key to us improving.
That said the midfield doesn't work as well as it needs to. I would put Motos at the base and relegate the honourable Hogg to the bench/bit part player (much like Whitehead used to be). I don't say this because he made a shocking mistake, he's always had one in him, but because he slows things down. To be fair he played better 2nd half and actually pinged a couple of nice passes to Sorba, but it isn't enough. Ideally we need a proper ball playing midfielder to dictate play, keep the ball better and get us moving forward. Failing that play Matos at the base with Kasumu and Rudoni slightly infront. If Matos wants to drive forward, which he is capable of, then one of the two can cover the space left behind.
I thought the back three had decent games (Helik is player of the season again so far) and Nicholls really didn't have much to do after being left high and dry for their goal.
Sorba did well, Koroma worked hard but I was a little bit underwhelmed with Healy but I won't judge him on one game.
In short Bojan offers hope. The midfield needs sorting out and we're buggered if Helik gets injured.
My other observation would be was when did the moronic brigade become more prevalent at away games? That was my first away trip since Boro and it was like that game at Barnsley a couple of years back, infiltrated by a bunch of kids with barely a brain cell between them. Can we not think of something else to sing other than references to libraries? Perhaps I'm just becoming a miserable old git? (cue people questioning the use of the word "becoming").
It is now all about winning games of football. Oops I said that before yesterday. It would appear that Mr Nagle agrees.
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Post by benhomly on Jan 21, 2024 10:02:19 GMT 1
Having posted at half time, while choking on smoke from a flare that some moron had set off in the concourse, I thought it only fair to provide a rounded view of the 90 minutes. We were better in the 2nd half but spurned one glaring opportunity and was thwarted by some decent keeping with another. Bojan made a massive difference, keeping him fit and on the pitch is absolutely key to us improving. That said the midfield doesn't work as well as it needs to. I would put Motos at the base and relegate the honourable Hogg to the bench/bit part player (much like Whitehead used to be). I don't say this because he made a shocking mistake, he's always had one in him, but because he slows things down. To be fair he played better 2nd half and actually pinged a couple of nice passes to Sorba, but it isn't enough. Ideally we need a proper ball playing midfielder to dictate play, keep the ball better and get us moving forward. Failing that play Matos at the base with Kasumu and Rudoni slightly infront. If Matos wants to drive forward, which he is capable of, then one of the two can cover the space left behind. I thought the back three had decent games ( Helik is player of the season again so far) and Nicholls really didn't have much to do after being left high and dry for their goal. Sorba did well, Koroma worked hard but I was a little bit underwhelmed with Healy but I won't judge him on one game. In short Bojan offers hope. The midfield needs sorting out and we're buggered if Helik gets injured. My other observation would be was when did the moronic brigade become more prevalent at away games? That was my first away trip since Boro and it was like that game at Barnsley a couple of years back, infiltrated by a bunch of kids with barely a brain cell between them. Can we not think of something else to sing other than references to libraries? Perhaps I'm just becoming a miserable old git? (cue people questioning the use of the word "becoming"). It is now all about winning games of football. Oops I said that before yesterday. It would appear that Mr Nagle agrees. Wouldn't be surprised if he got 100% of the votes. Impressed with Thomas's attitude and contribution this season as well but Helik all day long for me. |
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Post by Paphos Terrier on Jan 21, 2024 10:16:59 GMT 1
Not as a wing-back anyway. Then again, I think the same for Headley and that’s also unpopular. They’re not terrible, but they’re not at this level at the moment. I think you're very wrong about Headley he's starting to look really good going forward at them. It's a pity he's out injured we need him back in the team. Jackson is a work in progress can put in a good cross now and then. Headley for me though is really coming on and that's what we want with all our younger players to step up a level. |
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Post by runner76 on Jan 21, 2024 10:28:05 GMT 1
Having posted at half time, while choking on smoke from a flare that some moron had set off in the concourse, I thought it only fair to provide a rounded view of the 90 minutes. We were better in the 2nd half but spurned one glaring opportunity and was thwarted by some decent keeping with another. Bojan made a massive difference, keeping him fit and on the pitch is absolutely key to us improving. That said the midfield doesn't work as well as it needs to. I would put Motos at the base and relegate the honourable Hogg to the bench/bit part player (much like Whitehead used to be). I don't say this because he made a shocking mistake, he's always had one in him, but because he slows things down. To be fair he played better 2nd half and actually pinged a couple of nice passes to Sorba, but it isn't enough. Ideally we need a proper ball playing midfielder to dictate play, keep the ball better and get us moving forward. Failing that play Matos at the base with Kasumu and Rudoni slightly infront. If Matos wants to drive forward, which he is capable of, then one of the two can cover the space left behind. I thought the back three had decent games (Helik is player of the season again so far) and Nicholls really didn't have much to do after being left high and dry for their goal. Sorba did well, Koroma worked hard but I was a little bit underwhelmed with Healy but I won't judge him on one game. In short Bojan offers hope. The midfield needs sorting out and we're buggered if Helik gets injured. My other observation would be was when did the moronic brigade become more prevalent at away games? That was my first away trip since Boro and it was like that game at Barnsley a couple of years back, infiltrated by a bunch of kids with barely a brain cell between them. Can we not think of something else to sing other than references to libraries? Perhaps I'm just becoming a miserable old git? (cue people questioning the use of the word "becoming"). It is now all about winning games of football. Oops I said that before yesterday. It would appear that Mr Nagle agrees. Been a minority of morons at most away games I can ever remember going to…… !! |
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Post by ram on Jan 21, 2024 12:12:33 GMT 1
Happy days.Kev thinks Moore is a lovely bloke.I wonder if he will think that when we are in the bottom 3.
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Post by htfcterry on Jan 21, 2024 12:31:16 GMT 1
Not sure if this has already been posted. Strange little moment - looks as if he’s pie’d DM off there. No real context obviously.
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Post by benhomly on Jan 21, 2024 12:50:30 GMT 1
Having posted at half time, while choking on smoke from a flare that some moron had set off in the concourse, I thought it only fair to provide a rounded view of the 90 minutes. We were better in the 2nd half but spurned one glaring opportunity and was thwarted by some decent keeping with another. Bojan made a massive difference, keeping him fit and on the pitch is absolutely key to us improving. That said the midfield doesn't work as well as it needs to. I would put Motos at the base and relegate the honourable Hogg to the bench/bit part player (much like Whitehead used to be). I don't say this because he made a shocking mistake, he's always had one in him, but because he slows things down. To be fair he played better 2nd half and actually pinged a couple of nice passes to Sorba, but it isn't enough. Ideally we need a proper ball playing midfielder to dictate play, keep the ball better and get us moving forward. Failing that play Matos at the base with Kasumu and Rudoni slightly infront. If Matos wants to drive forward, which he is capable of, then one of the two can cover the space left behind. I thought the back three had decent games (Helik is player of the season again so far) and Nicholls really didn't have much to do after being left high and dry for their goal. Sorba did well, Koroma worked hard but I was a little bit underwhelmed with Healy but I won't judge him on one game. In short Bojan offers hope. The midfield needs sorting out and we're buggered if Helik gets injured. My other observation would be was when did the moronic brigade become more prevalent at away games? That was my first away trip since Boro and it was like that game at Barnsley a couple of years back, infiltrated by a bunch of kids with barely a brain cell between them. Can we not think of something else to sing other than references to libraries? Perhaps I'm just becoming a miserable old git? (cue people questioning the use of the word "becoming"). It is now all about winning games of football. Oops I said that before yesterday. It would appear that Mr Nagle agrees. Football songs these days show a distinct lack of imagination. 'I wanna go home, I wanna go home, *******'s a shithole I wanna go home' is another example. Coming from Town fans as well makes it particularly embarrassing, although to be fair apart from the likes of Harrogate, York and one or two others it's the same for most places these days. 'In your Bradford slums....' was far better. My particular least favourite is 'You've seen the Town/City etc now f**k off home'. Dreadful. Again, 'Is there a fire drill' was far more imaginative. |
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Post by HalifaxTerrier on Jan 21, 2024 13:45:57 GMT 1
Watching the latest video update from Nagle above and I’m just sat here confused by what he’s saying.
“Change in formation, we’re too conservative”
“I’d rather lose really attacking and being aggressive”
“I don’t want to be sat here a week from tonight in a different spot”
So what’s he expecting? That Moore is going to suddenly change his ways and go gung-ho next week? If we win does it not just delay the inevitable? If Moore does change, then why did he not do this two games ago when he had the chance to do so.
Problem is, it’s not just a question of starting formations and line-ups, it’s also how he reacts during the game itself. At no point has he looked to switch things up and go attacking when the game is clearly there for the taking, or even when we are down and have nothing to lose.
Just seems daft that he sounds like he knows what the eventual outcome is going to be, but we’ve got to keep waiting for it to happen because he’s a nice guy who has lots of nice words said about him. If we win/draw next week just it just buy more time for a manager that clearly isn’t the right fit to what we, or Nagle himself, wants.
Bizarre.
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Post by willo on Jan 21, 2024 13:57:47 GMT 1
Having posted at half time, while choking on smoke from a flare that some moron had set off in the concourse, I thought it only fair to provide a rounded view of the 90 minutes. We were better in the 2nd half but spurned one glaring opportunity and was thwarted by some decent keeping with another. Bojan made a massive difference, keeping him fit and on the pitch is absolutely key to us improving. That said the midfield doesn't work as well as it needs to. I would put Motos at the base and relegate the honourable Hogg to the bench/bit part player (much like Whitehead used to be). I don't say this because he made a shocking mistake, he's always had one in him, but because he slows things down. To be fair he played better 2nd half and actually pinged a couple of nice passes to Sorba, but it isn't enough. Ideally we need a proper ball playing midfielder to dictate play, keep the ball better and get us moving forward. Failing that play Matos at the base with Kasumu and Rudoni slightly infront. If Matos wants to drive forward, which he is capable of, then one of the two can cover the space left behind. I thought the back three had decent games ( Helik is player of the season again so far) and Nicholls really didn't have much to do after being left high and dry for their goal. Sorba did well, Koroma worked hard but I was a little bit underwhelmed with Healy but I won't judge him on one game. In short Bojan offers hope. The midfield needs sorting out and we're buggered if Helik gets injured. My other observation would be was when did the moronic brigade become more prevalent at away games? That was my first away trip since Boro and it was like that game at Barnsley a couple of years back, infiltrated by a bunch of kids with barely a brain cell between them. Can we not think of something else to sing other than references to libraries? Perhaps I'm just becoming a miserable old git? (cue people questioning the use of the word "becoming"). It is now all about winning games of football. Oops I said that before yesterday. It would appear that Mr Nagle agrees. Wouldn't be surprised if he got 100% of the votes. Impressed with Thomas's attitude and contribution this season as well but Helik all day long for me. We would be really screwed were we to lose Helik this window. He’s our talisman and the fallout could very well relegate us. I haven’t seen him linked elsewhere so fingers crossed that remains so. |
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Post by Henry Mcgee on Jan 21, 2024 14:04:12 GMT 1
Watching the latest video update from Nagle above and I’m just sat here confused by what he’s saying. “Change in formation, we’re too conservative” “I’d rather lose really attacking and being aggressive” “I don’t want to be sat here a week from tonight in a different spot” So what’s he expecting? That Moore is going to suddenly change his ways and go gung-ho next week? If we win does it not just delay the inevitable? If Moore does change, then why did he not do this two games ago when he had the chance to do so. Problem is, it’s not just a question of starting formations and line-ups, it’s also how he reacts during the game itself. At no point has he looked to switch things up and go attacking when the game is clearly there for the taking, or even when we are down and have nothing to lose. Just seems daft that he sounds like he knows what the eventual outcome is going to be, but we’ve got to keep waiting for it to happen because he’s a nice guy who has lots of nice words said about him. If we win/draw next week just it just buy more time for a manager that clearly isn’t the right fit to what we, or Nagle himself, wants. Bizarre. The "Darren Moore is here because of his attacking footballing style" quotes presumably came from his interview(s) for the job. Regardless of the squad quality, there has been nothing to back this up other than his bizarre tactical suicide away at Leeds. Nagle has clearly said "play 5 at the back next week and don't win - you're out" - the 2pm line up will be eagerly anticipated on Saturday. |
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Post by benhomly on Jan 21, 2024 14:06:12 GMT 1
Wouldn't be surprised if he got 100% of the votes. Impressed with Thomas's attitude and contribution this season as well but Helik all day long for me. We would be really screwed were we to lose Helik this window. He’s our talisman and the fallout could very well relegate us. I haven’t seen him linked elsewhere so fingers crossed that remains so. Someone mentioned Leicester the other day but would be surprised at that. |
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Post by alex on Jan 21, 2024 14:15:13 GMT 1
I know I'm being a dick, but when Americans start talking about 'soccer' I immediately switch off.
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