In the event of relegation

[utttrooper]

I still think we are more than good enough to stay up and feel we just need a but of luck and capability to score goals but if we do go down these are the player I think will go. I just wonder if anyone feels different.

Helik, Sorba and Rudoni would be off like shots. I also think Nicholls, Nakayama and Diarra would leave. Kasumu, Headley, Koroma and possibly Wiles could leave if interest came. Radulovic, Healey and Balker probably won't go anywhere as we've just signed them. But we most likely wouldn't be signing Burgzorg permanently.

[softboy]

To be honest if we do go down I’d expect most players would want to leave. We now have more than enough quality to stay up but with KN and DM at the helm I am no longer convinced we will.

[Donny Terrier]

It will certainly sober a few up on here and we never come straight back up from league one

3/4 season's down the line they will look back and think...why did I ever think it was a good idea that Neil left and why did I disrespect him on datm

Footballing karma this season...we have done a bad thing and it's our turn for relegation

[Gold Coast Terrier]

I think we’ll stay up but it’s been costly. We would have been better staying with Warnock and seeing out the season with a few savvy buys in Jan, with a rebuild in the summer. But instead we’ve jumped the gun and now needed to spend big in an unfavourable window.

[bluetit]

If we are relegated so we live with it and win the only league we have never won don’t see where the big problem is. It would far better than watching the struggling team I’ve been watching the last two seasons. Knowing Town though I’ll probably end up watching another season of struggle and another relegation. This is what every fan of every club has to endure unless you are glory seekers and support teams in the money grabbing premier league

[kennyk2]

Apart from two seasons since we were promoted from League 1 over ten seasons ago, we have seen a team that's struggled. I'm quite surprised that we are still in this division and so are the pundits who have us down for relegation every season.

We have had some good teams over the years and we now have some decent players until the end of the season. Perhaps the reason we struggle is much more complex than not having the right players, or a good manager.

Perhaps this is more of a mindset... Huddersfield Town = struggling team.

[runner76]

Pretty sure plenty pundits had us down for relegation the season we got promoted.

[themanfromatlantis]

In the event of relegation...

Most on here will still support the club through thick & thin.

Plenty on here who have watched Town in the lower divisions.

The problem for some is that relegation to L1 is seen as something we'll never recover from, maybe it's that negative as shite mindset that's the problem? Or the greed for the riches of getting promoted to a league that only half a dozen clubs can ever realistically hope to win it?

Football sold it's soul years ago, some Town supporters think we should do the same...

[runner76]

Jan 23, 2024 9:04:55 GMT 1 themanfromatlantis said:

In the event of relegation...

Most on here will still support the club through thick & thin.

Plenty on here who have watched Town in the lower divisions.

The problem for some is that relegation to L1 is seen as something we'll never recover from, maybe it's that negative as shite mindset that's the problem? Or the greed for the riches of getting promoted to a league that only half a dozen clubs can ever realistically hope to win it?

Football sold it's soul years ago, some Town supporters think we should do the same...

Only 7 clubs have won since the greedy league started, so take out the Blackburn and Leicester outliers, and you’re not far off with the half dozen……sad state of affairs when it’s seen as an exciting season when one of the 7 who have already won it win again for first time in a while……

[richhtfc]

I think if we were relegated we’d get promoted relatively easy, in a season or two, because we have a new owner who is engaged and willing to invest. Just my opinion, I know it’s a tough league to get out of.

[aksaiblue]

Jan 22, 2024 22:35:05 GMT 1 softboy said:

To be honest if we do go down I’d expect most players would want to leave. We now have more than enough quality to stay up but with KN and DM at the helm I am no longer convinced we will.

Let's see what KN is made of, I like what I am hearing regarding his latest interview. I am not convinced with DM either and I suspect KN isn't either, now he has been in and around football and town for a while. UTT

[willo]

Although we’ve teetered for a while, relegation to League 1 is almost unthinkable for me if no other reason than we’d have brought in on ourselves through poor decision making. It took me a long time to get over the 2001 relegation and I didn’t bother with a season card again until we returned to the Championship in 2012 and it will be the same this time if it happens once more, bottom line is I’ve very little interest in League 1 football. I’ll go to the odd game but no more. Season ticket renewals will plummet. Talk of relegation in January is defeatist anyway. Get rid of DM, appoint someone decent and I’m certain we have the players to keep us up and progress further next season.

[dooky82]

Jan 23, 2024 11:52:26 GMT 1 willo said:

Although we’ve teetered for a while, relegation to League 1 is almost unthinkable for me if no other reason than we’d have brought in on ourselves through poor decision making. It took me a long time to get over the 2001 relegation and I didn’t bother with a season card again until we returned to the Championship in 2012 and it will be the same this time if it happens once more, bottom line is I’ve very little interest in League 1 football. I’ll go to the odd game but no more. Season ticket renewals will plummet. Talk of relegation in January is defeatist anyway. Get rid of DM, appoint someone decent and I’m certain we have the players to keep us up and progress further next season.

Probably the closest we will get to a glory fan at Huddersfield Town... I don't get it if I'm honest. Surely we support the club, not the league we are in. If we did go down and come straight back up again, I can guarantee you it will be the most fun we have had watching town for nearly a decade!

[ram]

Talking of if,s.If QPR win the next game we are in the relegation places.

[benhomly]

Jan 23, 2024 12:24:14 GMT 1 ram said:

Talking of if,s.If QPR win the next game we are in the relegation places.

Well spotted, don't think any of us had realised that

[Donny Terrier]

Jan 23, 2024 11:52:26 GMT 1 willo said:

Although we’ve teetered for a while, relegation to League 1 is almost unthinkable for me if no other reason than we’d have brought in on ourselves through poor decision making. It took me a long time to get over the 2001 relegation and I didn’t bother with a season card again until we returned to the Championship in 2012 and it will be the same this time if it happens once more, bottom line is I’ve very little interest in League 1 football. I’ll go to the odd game but no more. Season ticket renewals will plummet. Talk of relegation in January is defeatist anyway. Get rid of DM, appoint someone decent and I’m certain we have the players to keep us up and progress further next season.

I remember it like yesterday!

Curtis Woodhouse goal and brum fans singing we'll meet again

And a lad at work singing..its the sound of the Town going down to a girls aloud song

The immediate loss is nearly 6 million quid in tv revenue...league one clubs get just over 1 million

So with ffp taken into account you cannot buy yourself out of the division

[dugnet]

What Mr Nagle needs is a plan in place in case this happens. What we can't afford is a lot of navel gazing and general scratching of heads ("hmmmm what went wrong?") we need to properly re-set (how many times in the last 6 years have we needed to re-set and failed to do so) and be ready to go in August.

The same is of course true if we stay up.

The truth is we have seen variations of a theme that essentially mounted to the same thing i.e. poor decisions, confused identity, lack of strategic investment (in the playing side and across the club) and the lack of a plan. For all Mr Nagle's, very welcome, leadership this month the fact is we continue to react rather than plan strategically. That needs to change and we cannot allow relegation take us away from the overall plan. As I have posted a couple of times recently I am greatly encouraged by Mr Nagle but I am not sure of the overall plan and strategy to achieve it. NB: In short there is a lot of good words, some positive actions but not a clearly stated intent for the club (being able to challenge for the Premier League is 3 years is an aspiration, not a considered plan).

My fear is we will react if relegated and not align to an overall plan that would provide a framework for a better future.

[huddshroom]

Jan 23, 2024 13:12:34 GMT 1 dugnet said:

What Mr Nagle needs is a plan in place in case this happens. What we can't afford is a lot of navel gazing and general scratching of heads ("hmmmm what went wrong?") we need to properly re-set (how many times in the last 6 years have we needed to re-set and failed to do so) and be ready to go in August.

The same is of course true if we stay up.

The truth is we have seen variations of a theme that essentially mounted to the same thing i.e. poor decisions, confused identity, lack of strategic investment (in the playing side and across the club) and the lack of a plan. For all Mr Nagle's, very welcome, leadership this month the fact is we continue to react rather than plan strategically. That needs to change and we cannot allow relegation take us away from the overall plan. As I have posted a couple of times recently I am greatly encouraged by Mr Nagle but I am not sure of the overall plan and strategy to achieve it. NB: In short there is a lot of good words, some positive actions but not a clearly stated intent for the club (being able to challenge for the Premier League is 3 years is an aspiration, not a considered plan).

My fear is we will react if relegated and not align to an overall plan that would provide a framework for a better future.

Will set us back years going down. We won't be signing championship quality players, but the players we do sign will sign for at least 2 seasons leaving us a team we either need to purge if we go back up or struggle with them back in the Championship.

[dugnet]

Jan 23, 2024 13:37:37 GMT 1 huddshroom said:

Jan 23, 2024 13:12:34 GMT 1 dugnet said:

What Mr Nagle needs is a plan in place in case this happens. What we can't afford is a lot of navel gazing and general scratching of heads ("hmmmm what went wrong?") we need to properly re-set (how many times in the last 6 years have we needed to re-set and failed to do so) and be ready to go in August.

The same is of course true if we stay up.

The truth is we have seen variations of a theme that essentially mounted to the same thing i.e. poor decisions, confused identity, lack of strategic investment (in the playing side and across the club) and the lack of a plan. For all Mr Nagle's, very welcome, leadership this month the fact is we continue to react rather than plan strategically. That needs to change and we cannot allow relegation take us away from the overall plan. As I have posted a couple of times recently I am greatly encouraged by Mr Nagle but I am not sure of the overall plan and strategy to achieve it. NB: In short there is a lot of good words, some positive actions but not a clearly stated intent for the club (being able to challenge for the Premier League is 3 years is an aspiration, not a considered plan).

My fear is we will react if relegated and not align to an overall plan that would provide a framework for a better future.

Will set us back years going down. We won't be signing championship quality players, but the players we do sign will sign for at least 2 seasons leaving us a team we either need to purge if we go back up or struggle with them back in the Championship.

It definitely is a problem - the aspiration of competing for the Premier League would be so much harder. I suppose the balance is someone like Ipswich at the moment and Southampton/Brighton in the past. They had a structured plan for incremental improvement which was successful. The big issue is investment or more accurately wise investment. Given our revenues would be severely impacted the capital outlay from Mr Nagle would be impacted. This comes back to the ambition and plan overall. Which goes back to my point about understanding that plan, if only so we know what to expect.

I know that the debate about "why" would rage on but as far as Mr Nagle concerned he needs to reflect on lessons learned and applying these going forward. We cannot allow inertia to set in, which is a significant risk.

[cyberman]

Jan 23, 2024 13:37:37 GMT 1 huddshroom said:

Jan 23, 2024 13:12:34 GMT 1 dugnet said:

What Mr Nagle needs is a plan in place in case this happens. What we can't afford is a lot of navel gazing and general scratching of heads ("hmmmm what went wrong?") we need to properly re-set (how many times in the last 6 years have we needed to re-set and failed to do so) and be ready to go in August.

The same is of course true if we stay up.

The truth is we have seen variations of a theme that essentially mounted to the same thing i.e. poor decisions, confused identity, lack of strategic investment (in the playing side and across the club) and the lack of a plan. For all Mr Nagle's, very welcome, leadership this month the fact is we continue to react rather than plan strategically. That needs to change and we cannot allow relegation take us away from the overall plan. As I have posted a couple of times recently I am greatly encouraged by Mr Nagle but I am not sure of the overall plan and strategy to achieve it. NB: In short there is a lot of good words, some positive actions but not a clearly stated intent for the club (being able to challenge for the Premier League is 3 years is an aspiration, not a considered plan).

My fear is we will react if relegated and not align to an overall plan that would provide a framework for a better future.

Will set us back years going down. We won't be signing championship quality players, but the players we do sign will sign for at least 2 seasons leaving us a team we either need to purge if we go back up or struggle with them back in the Championship.

Nowt new there then ! 

[dooky82]

Jan 23, 2024 13:37:37 GMT 1 huddshroom said:

Jan 23, 2024 13:12:34 GMT 1 dugnet said:

What Mr Nagle needs is a plan in place in case this happens. What we can't afford is a lot of navel gazing and general scratching of heads ("hmmmm what went wrong?") we need to properly re-set (how many times in the last 6 years have we needed to re-set and failed to do so) and be ready to go in August.

The same is of course true if we stay up.

The truth is we have seen variations of a theme that essentially mounted to the same thing i.e. poor decisions, confused identity, lack of strategic investment (in the playing side and across the club) and the lack of a plan. For all Mr Nagle's, very welcome, leadership this month the fact is we continue to react rather than plan strategically. That needs to change and we cannot allow relegation take us away from the overall plan. As I have posted a couple of times recently I am greatly encouraged by Mr Nagle but I am not sure of the overall plan and strategy to achieve it. NB: In short there is a lot of good words, some positive actions but not a clearly stated intent for the club (being able to challenge for the Premier League is 3 years is an aspiration, not a considered plan).

My fear is we will react if relegated and not align to an overall plan that would provide a framework for a better future.

Will set us back years going down. We won't be signing championship quality players, but the players we do sign will sign for at least 2 seasons leaving us a team we either need to purge if we go back up or struggle with them back in the Championship.

Set us back years from what? An annual relegation scrap? We haven't signed many Championship quality players over the last few years anyway.

[themanfromatlantis]

Jan 23, 2024 14:06:03 GMT 1 dugnet said:

Jan 23, 2024 13:37:37 GMT 1 huddshroom said:

Will set us back years going down. We won't be signing championship quality players, but the players we do sign will sign for at least 2 seasons leaving us a team we either need to purge if we go back up or struggle with them back in the Championship.

It definitely is a problem - the aspiration of competing for the Premier League would be so much harder. I suppose the balance is someone like Ipswich at the moment and Southampton/Brighton in the past. They had a structured plan for incremental improvement which was successful. The big issue is investment or more accurately wise investment. Given our revenues would be severely impacted the capital outlay from Mr Nagle would be impacted. This comes back to the ambition and plan overall. Which goes back to my point about understanding that plan, if only so we know what to expect.

I know that the debate about "why" would rage on but as far as Mr Nagle concerned he needs to reflect on lessons learned and applying these going forward. We cannot allow inertia to set in, which is a significant risk.

What’s this “competing in the PL” thing then?

Do you mean an annual battle for 17th place?

[dugnet]

Jan 23, 2024 14:20:58 GMT 1 themanfromatlantis said:

Jan 23, 2024 14:06:03 GMT 1 dugnet said:

It definitely is a problem - the aspiration of competing for the Premier League would be so much harder. I suppose the balance is someone like Ipswich at the moment and Southampton/Brighton in the past. They had a structured plan for incremental improvement which was successful. The big issue is investment or more accurately wise investment. Given our revenues would be severely impacted the capital outlay from Mr Nagle would be impacted. This comes back to the ambition and plan overall. Which goes back to my point about understanding that plan, if only so we know what to expect.

I know that the debate about "why" would rage on but as far as Mr Nagle concerned he needs to reflect on lessons learned and applying these going forward. We cannot allow inertia to set in, which is a significant risk.

What’s this “competing in the PL” thing then?

Do you mean an annual battle for 17th place?

And there's a problem that Mr Nagle needs to get a grip of, cynicism born from experience - which is embedded in our DNA as Town fans. Your comment in jest has such an element of truth and someone needs to break the cycle of expecting failure and that any hint of success being merely accidental.

Although I think Mr Nagle has taken us on with the best intentions I am not sure he has fully got his head round how much work there is to do across the club. Changing the narrative and mindset is part of that.

(NB: I wasn't being critical of your view at all here - but it does highlight an endemic problem)

[detox]

Relegation does have some positives...

We'd probably be an established mid-table club for 5 years or so, instead of relegation candidates every year.

We'd only have the "true fans" in the ground..8,000 of them, and easier parking ?

We'd get to play Bradford (maybe)

We'd never be on live TV, so no public humiliations

The world would forget about us....Huddersfield Who ?

[willo]

Jan 23, 2024 12:16:06 GMT 1 dooky82 said:

Jan 23, 2024 11:52:26 GMT 1 willo said:

Although we’ve teetered for a while, relegation to League 1 is almost unthinkable for me if no other reason than we’d have brought in on ourselves through poor decision making. It took me a long time to get over the 2001 relegation and I didn’t bother with a season card again until we returned to the Championship in 2012 and it will be the same this time if it happens once more, bottom line is I’ve very little interest in League 1 football. I’ll go to the odd game but no more. Season ticket renewals will plummet. Talk of relegation in January is defeatist anyway. Get rid of DM, appoint someone decent and I’m certain we have the players to keep us up and progress further next season.

Probably the closest we will get to a glory fan at Huddersfield Town... I don't get it if I'm honest. Surely we support the club, not the league we are in. If we did go down and come straight back up again, I can guarantee you it will be the most fun we have had watching town for nearly a decade!

Had a season card since the late 70’s right up til 2002/3 season and had said from the January time that year if we were to drop (as we did), I didn’t want to watch us in League 1 again. My get out clause was that my son was born in the August of 2001 and I needed to be at home more so it dropped well for me. Did half a dozen games a season up to 2012 when I then got another season card along with my son but he’s at uni now and consequently only does 1/3 of the games so it’s not the same as it was. Going down would just see me lose a bit more interest. Also, I found throughout Covid I didn’t miss it as much as I thought I would. Football is not the be all and end all it once was for me.

[themanfromatlantis]

Jan 23, 2024 14:28:23 GMT 1 dugnet said:

Jan 23, 2024 14:20:58 GMT 1 themanfromatlantis said:

What’s this “competing in the PL” thing then?

Do you mean an annual battle for 17th place?

And there's a problem that Mr Nagle needs to get a grip of, cynicism born from experience - which is embedded in our DNA as Town fans. Your comment in jest has such an element of truth and someone needs to break the cycle of expecting failure and that any hint of success being merely accidental.

Although I think Mr Nagle has taken us on with the best intentions I am not sure he has fully got his head round how much work there is to do across the club. Changing the narrative and mindset is part of that.

(NB: I wasn't being critical of your view at all here - but it does highlight an endemic problem)

It’s not a negative mindset about Town, the cynicism is pointed towards the PL.

Can you visualise a scenario where we’re competing for honours in that division as it currently stands?

Brighton have sunk hundreds of £m’s into the club, but they’ve not done anything other than give their supporters a bit of entertainment and the occasional bit of hope.

As a hypothetical owner, how much would you be prepared to stomach in season on season losses, purely to entertain your supporters, because that’s ultimately what most clubs in the PL are doing.

[huddshroom]

Jan 23, 2024 14:17:53 GMT 1 dooky82 said:

Jan 23, 2024 13:37:37 GMT 1 huddshroom said:

Will set us back years going down. We won't be signing championship quality players, but the players we do sign will sign for at least 2 seasons leaving us a team we either need to purge if we go back up or struggle with them back in the Championship.

Set us back years from what? An annual relegation scrap? We haven't signed many Championship quality players over the last few years anyway.

Well I meant from the hypothetical plan Kev has

[utttrooper]

Jan 23, 2024 12:16:06 GMT 1 dooky82 said:

Jan 23, 2024 11:52:26 GMT 1 willo said:

Although we’ve teetered for a while, relegation to League 1 is almost unthinkable for me if no other reason than we’d have brought in on ourselves through poor decision making. It took me a long time to get over the 2001 relegation and I didn’t bother with a season card again until we returned to the Championship in 2012 and it will be the same this time if it happens once more, bottom line is I’ve very little interest in League 1 football. I’ll go to the odd game but no more. Season ticket renewals will plummet. Talk of relegation in January is defeatist anyway. Get rid of DM, appoint someone decent and I’m certain we have the players to keep us up and progress further next season.

Probably the closest we will get to a glory fan at Huddersfield Town... I don't get it if I'm honest. Surely we support the club, not the league we are in. If we did go down and come straight back up again, I can guarantee you it will be the most fun we have had watching town for nearly a decade!

2016/17 and even 2021/22 disagree but it's still 2 good and 9 shite seasons though saying that if we go down it's 2 successive promotions when you think about the 3 year plan

[rockwall]

Jan 23, 2024 14:35:52 GMT 1 willo said:

Jan 23, 2024 12:16:06 GMT 1 dooky82 said:

Probably the closest we will get to a glory fan at Huddersfield Town... I don't get it if I'm honest. Surely we support the club, not the league we are in. If we did go down and come straight back up again, I can guarantee you it will be the most fun we have had watching town for nearly a decade!

Had a season card since the late 70’s right up til 2002/3 season and had said from the January time that year if we were to drop (as we did), I didn’t want to watch us in League 1 again. My get out clause was that my son was born in the August of 2001 and I needed to be at home more so it dropped well for me. Did half a dozen games a season up to 2012 when I then got another season card along with my son but he’s at uni now and consequently only does 1/3 of the games so it’s not the same as it was. Going down would just see me lose a bit more interest. Also, I found throughout Covid I didn’t miss it as much as I thought I would. Football is not the be all and end all it once was for me.

Some of best days out I have had following town is in League 1.
Would it be bad for the ub to go down? Of course it would.
Would it spoil my days out watching Town? Absolutely not.

Don't understand 'fans' only wanting to watch us in the top 2 divisions. It's bizarre.

[Donny Terrier]

Jan 23, 2024 16:43:19 GMT 1 rockwall said:

Jan 23, 2024 14:35:52 GMT 1 willo said:

Had a season card since the late 70’s right up til 2002/3 season and had said from the January time that year if we were to drop (as we did), I didn’t want to watch us in League 1 again. My get out clause was that my son was born in the August of 2001 and I needed to be at home more so it dropped well for me. Did half a dozen games a season up to 2012 when I then got another season card along with my son but he’s at uni now and consequently only does 1/3 of the games so it’s not the same as it was. Going down would just see me lose a bit more interest. Also, I found throughout Covid I didn’t miss it as much as I thought I would. Football is not the be all and end all it once was for me.

Some of best days out I have had following town is in League 1.
Would it be bad for the ub to go down? Of course it would.
Would it spoil my days out watching Town? Absolutely not.

Don't understand 'fans' only wanting to watch us in the top 2 divisions. It's bizarre.

A lot on here probably have never had to