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Post by richohtfc on Jan 29, 2024 21:33:19 GMT 1
I don’t post but wanted to share a point which keeps coming back to me, if this has been covered on another thread, I apologise.
As I understand it, after the miracles that Mr Warnock performed, we literally begged that he returns for this season. This was in order to steady the ship, whilst we seek out the long term successor. Seemed an extremely sensible strategy and one which gave me confidence in the new regime.
Then, much earlier than anybody could have thought, Warnock was gone. I know I was expecting a very interesting appointment and then we got Moore, no disrespect intended.
I can’t help but think, if we’d have kept Warnock, we were comfortably sat mid table, signed some promising players in this window (not done bad on this point) and spent some time making the RIGHT appointment that next season would be looking a much better prospect. It feels like we’ve gone backwards.
Why did we change from Plan A to Plan B, which failed and are now trying to work out what the Plan C will be?!
I pray Plan C turns out to be inspired.
UTT
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Post by htfcfcfc on Jan 29, 2024 21:37:59 GMT 1
I don’t think we’ve covered this. Thank goodness you’ve raised it 👏🏻👏🏻🎣🎣🎣🎣🎣
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Jan 29, 2024 21:44:09 GMT 1
How do you know for definite we would be comfortable mid table?
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Post by richohtfc on Jan 29, 2024 21:44:49 GMT 1
I don’t think we’ve covered this. Thank goodness you’ve raised it 👏🏻👏🏻🎣🎣🎣🎣🎣 Thanks for the sarcasm 👍🏻 I’m just pointing out, it strikes me as an odd decision to do a complete u-turn on what seemed a much better plan and will have cost us a lot of money in the process. Those responsible still in work too!! Guess hindsight is a wonderful thing. |
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Post by richohtfc on Jan 29, 2024 21:46:31 GMT 1
How do you know for definite we would be comfortable mid table? Ok, fair point, nowt guaranteed. Just reckon there would be a much better chance that we’d be in a better position with Warnock in charge. |
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Post by Wingman on Jan 29, 2024 21:46:32 GMT 1
I don’t think we’ve covered this. Thank goodness you’ve raised it 👏🏻👏🏻🎣🎣🎣🎣🎣 Thanks for the sarcasm 👍🏻 I’m just pointing out, it strikes me as an odd decision to do a complete u-turn on what seemed a much better plan and will have cost us a lot of money in the process. Those responsible still in work too!! Guess hindsight is a wonderful thing. It is. We aren’t the first and won’t be the last club to act this way. Hopefully we can get it right this time. |
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Post by richohtfc on Jan 29, 2024 21:50:20 GMT 1
Thanks for the sarcasm 👍🏻 I’m just pointing out, it strikes me as an odd decision to do a complete u-turn on what seemed a much better plan and will have cost us a lot of money in the process. Those responsible still in work too!! Guess hindsight is a wonderful thing. It is. We aren’t the first and won’t be the last club to act this way. Hopefully we can get it right this time. This next appointment is going to be critical isn’t it, especially with the fixtures we have coming up. We went for Warnock for impact and then Moore for the long term, now we want someone to come in and do both!! |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jan 29, 2024 21:57:18 GMT 1
Hindsight is a wonderful thing but I guess most folk saw this coming a mile off. Warnock should gave been left in charge to oversee the sorting of the squad out, transitioning in to beefing it up, him keeping us in the league again, whilst other stuff behind the scenes sorted out by Edwards and Nagle with a new manager ready to go in pre season.
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Post by richohtfc on Jan 29, 2024 22:03:32 GMT 1
Hindsight is a wonderful thing but I guess most folk saw this coming a mile off. Warnock should gave been left in charge to oversee the sorting of the squad out, transitioning in to beefing it up, him keeping us in the league again, whilst other stuff behind the scenes sorted out by Edwards and Nagle with a new manager ready to go in pre season. Precisely, had they stuck to the original plan I think the outlook for this season and beyond would be looking far more positive and we’d all be excited about the future. Instead we’re in the shit….again! |
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Post by omegasupreme on Jan 29, 2024 22:21:43 GMT 1
I don’t think we’ve covered this. Thank goodness you’ve raised it 👏🏻👏🏻🎣🎣🎣🎣🎣 That’s it let’s belittle a new poster. My my what big bollocks you have. |
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Post by runner76 on Jan 29, 2024 22:27:31 GMT 1
How do you know for definite we would be comfortable mid table? My thoughts as well......we may well be a few places higher but not sure how comfortable in mid table....! |
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Post by royrace on Jan 29, 2024 22:44:29 GMT 1
How do you know for definite we would be comfortable mid table? My thoughts as well......we may well be a few places higher but not sure how comfortable in mid table....! It's been done to death but what exactly makes you think we'd not be at least mid table? You saw the results back end of last season and our position in the form table? With Warnock I think we'd be comfortably mid table and possibly higher. Irrelevant of course but common sense suggests mid table minimum surely? |
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Post by sabailand on Jan 29, 2024 23:03:44 GMT 1
Warnock was going to go sometime, for some reason it just happened sooner rather than later unfortunately, it was a huge risk thats backfired but thankfully we still have time to get ourselves out of this self inflicted mess.
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Jan 29, 2024 23:14:42 GMT 1
People make mistakes, we aren't privvy to all the ins and outs. There are people on this site that know more than most of us but not everything.
In hindsight getting rid of Warnock when we did was a really bad idea. Most people saw it coming. But the backdrop of what Moore came into, I think most managers were always going to struggle and likely fail.
Maybe the mistake was keeping Warnock on in Summer, I think this really hampered us in the transfer market, for a couple of reasons.
We all make mistakes, I make them at work regularly but have the luxury of not having people calling for my head at every error I make and get the chance to learn from it.
The hope is that the decision makers learn from their mistakes too.
Its only football. Some of the abuse Town figures have got this last couple of weeks has been OTT, not so much on DATM but twitter especially.
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Post by Metch on Jan 29, 2024 23:21:32 GMT 1
It's not hindsight, I think most of us thought it was super high risk to make the change so early in the season and so it's proved. Nagle's had his fingers burnt by trusting his appointees too much. I doubt he'll let them mess up again
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Post by Mav on Jan 29, 2024 23:30:37 GMT 1
I don’t think we’ve covered this. Thank goodness you’ve raised it 👏🏻👏🏻🎣🎣🎣🎣🎣 That’s it let’s belittle a new poster. My my what big bollocks you have. Exactly this. Fair post mate and disregard the kids. |
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Post by htfcfcfc on Jan 29, 2024 23:38:14 GMT 1
I don’t think we’ve covered this. Thank goodness you’ve raised it 👏🏻👏🏻🎣🎣🎣🎣🎣 That’s it let’s belittle a new poster. My my what big bollocks you have. Interesting opinion….. |
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Post by townarentbest on Jan 30, 2024 1:33:18 GMT 1
My thoughts as well......we may well be a few places higher but not sure how comfortable in mid table....! It's been done to death but what exactly makes you think we'd not be at least mid table? You saw the results back end of last season and our position in the form table? With Warnock I think we'd be comfortably mid table and possibly higher. Irrelevant of course but common sense suggests mid table minimum surely? Results THIS season with a pretty much full squad available would give a reasonable indication that with the same injuries actually we’d be on similar or FEWER points than we are had we stuck with Warnock. |
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Post by willo on Jan 30, 2024 1:37:06 GMT 1
It's been done to death but what exactly makes you think we'd not be at least mid table? You saw the results back end of last season and our position in the form table? With Warnock I think we'd be comfortably mid table and possibly higher. Irrelevant of course but common sense suggests mid table minimum surely? Results THIS season with a pretty much full squad available would give a reasonable indication that with the same injuries actually we’d be on similar or FEWER points than we are had we stuck with Warnock. Absolute bollocks. |
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Post by drewden on Jan 30, 2024 1:42:44 GMT 1
How do you know for definite we would be comfortable mid table? Ok, fair point, nowt guaranteed. Just reckon there would be a much better chance that we’d be in a better position with Warnock in charge. The past has gone, it is ifs and buts and hindsight, look to the now and future, who knows what will happen, we will see. |
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Post by kyg on Jan 30, 2024 1:43:59 GMT 1
Moronic thread of the year but it is only January so may be surpassed. Plan A was Warnock gone by Christmas. It was never the plan for him to be here an entire season.
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Post by Orinoco on Jan 30, 2024 2:23:54 GMT 1
It's all ifs and buts, it's now onto the next chapter of Huddersfield Town story to get recorded in the history books.
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on Jan 30, 2024 3:26:08 GMT 1
It was such a ridiculous U turn that I can only assume there was more to it than meets the eye.
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Jan 30, 2024 7:56:09 GMT 1
Imagine if we had kept Warnock until Xmas THEN got Moore.
Be some twitchy arses in April and May.
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 30, 2024 8:15:08 GMT 1
Results THIS season with a pretty much full squad available would give a reasonable indication that with the same injuries actually we’d be on similar or FEWER points than we are had we stuck with Warnock. Absolute bollocks. It's certainly an early contender for moronic post of the year |
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Post by townarentbest on Jan 30, 2024 10:53:11 GMT 1
Results THIS season with a pretty much full squad available would give a reasonable indication that with the same injuries actually we’d be on similar or FEWER points than we are had we stuck with Warnock. Absolute bollocks. We played against 8 Championship teams under NW this season, and got results that would earn 8 points. Over 29 games, that would extrapolate to ONE more point than we currently have. NW's 1 point theoretical improvement over 29 games doesn't factor in downturn that would inevitably have come from not having Rudoni, Burgzorg, Koroma, Nicholls (and Maxwell), Kasumu, Hogg, and Nakayama available. We are where we are primarily because of the players we've had. Darren Moore isn't incompetent & NW isn't some kind of footballing genius. |
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Post by royrace on Jan 30, 2024 11:01:48 GMT 1
We played against 8 Championship teams under NW this season, and got results that would earn 8 points. Over 29 games, that would extrapolate to ONE more point than we currently have. NW's 1 point theoretical improvement over 29 games doesn't factor in downturn that would inevitably have come from not having Rudoni, Burgzorg, Koroma, Nicholls (and Maxwell), Kasumu, Hogg, and Nakayama available. We are where we are primarily because of the players we've had. Darren Moore isn't incompetent & NW isn't some kind of footballing genius. hhhmmmmmm |
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Post by richohtfc on Jan 30, 2024 16:21:25 GMT 1
Moronic thread of the year but it is only January so may be surpassed. Plan A was Warnock gone by Christmas. It was never the plan for him to be here an entire season. Wow thanks, I certainly would be very happy to win title of ‘Moronic thread of the year’ with my very first attempt! Strange how folk can react differently to threads, some come on with good opinions, different points of view then some just feel the need to have a go. I remember now why this moron stopped posting on here years ago, I’ll slip back under my rock and keep my thoughts to myself but enjoy reading everyone else’s. Laters |
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Post by town1971 on Jan 30, 2024 16:26:27 GMT 1
If plan C don't work there are still 23 more to go.
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Post by terryya on Jan 30, 2024 17:39:04 GMT 1
I agree that the first mistake was keeping on Warnock. We had ages to look for the right new manager and start lining up their targets for the summer.
Instead, Warnock presided over a shambles of a summer window leaving us with a woeful squad. I'm pretty sure he knew this, so wouldn't be surprised if he engineered his leaving and we ended up with the mess we're in now.
With a half decent manager and doing in the summer the business we've done in January, I'm confident we wouldn't be staring relegation in the face again.
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