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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Feb 17, 2024 23:53:23 GMT 1
Deserved a point on second half but our passing and crossing is so poor at times. As for the referee,plenty of them are poor so there's nowt new there. I'd say that guy was about 8 to 9 metres away for the corner when Sorba complained.He was told to play on and take the corner but still complained,only one outcome. The over hitting of crosses from Thomas in particular stood out. With crosses like that Radulovic might have headed a few in. |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Feb 18, 2024 0:02:34 GMT 1
What does ‘playing up to the woke idiots’ mean? It means fast tracking an official so they can tick a box for the people insistent on being offended by everything Sounds like you’re the one offended, that a woman can be a referee. |
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Post by jakeg on Feb 18, 2024 0:10:14 GMT 1
Game kinda sums up the weirdness of being a supporters for so many years and all those emotions. Elation at a very deserved point followed a few seconds later by devastation at not defending one last set piece.
But I'm still optimistic. After a slow start still energetic, attacking football and really got on top of a very technically good team. We'll get the points we need playing like this.
I do agree with many....I think Hogg coming in showed that we might need to move on now we have some decent options in midfield. That energy and dynamism isn't what hogg can provide anymore.
Thomas was immense again....the difference for me fromm year ago is that he takes opponents on now and beats them. He seemed to lose all confidence to do that last season. Some mentioned some overhit crosses but there were plenty in the rught place dying for a fox in the box to stick them away.
Rudoni a real threat too. Balker looks class and great on the ball. Him and Helik will be a fabulous partnership.
Onwards and upwards and huge thanks to JW for breathing life back into the squad....the belief looks to be back
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Post by wildhogg on Feb 18, 2024 0:15:34 GMT 1
Thought Hull were a pretty horrid lot, including their fans. Really not sure why Ward has been brought on in the last two games. He's literally invisible on the pitch. Loved Balker and Spencer again today.
Referee was really poor, and absolutely lost control of the game from around the 25th minute up until half-time.
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Post by Big Ern on Feb 18, 2024 0:28:22 GMT 1
Someone please explain why Wiles played up front and Radulovic can't get a sniff.
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Post by benhomly on Feb 18, 2024 0:34:46 GMT 1
Someone please explain why Wiles played up front and Radulovic can't get a sniff. He didn't |
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Post by Big Ern on Feb 18, 2024 0:35:58 GMT 1
Someone please explain why Wiles played up front and Radulovic can't get a sniff. He didn't Koroma and Wiles today were garbage. Bojan can't do any worse |
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Post by benhomly on Feb 18, 2024 0:37:17 GMT 1
Koroma and Wiles today were garbage. Bojan can't do any worse They were but that doesn't mean Wiles played up front. |
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Post by utttrooper on Feb 18, 2024 0:40:22 GMT 1
Thought Hull were a pretty horrid lot, including their fans. Really not sure why Ward has been brought on in the last two games. He's literally invisible on the pitch. Loved Balker and Spencer again today. Referee was really poor, and absolutely lost control of the game from around the 25th minute up until half-time. Ward was fine against Sunderland as he can be more of a disruptor but today needed Radulovic when we were putting in cross after cross some of which just needed a big man to nod them in and even if he doesn't have the greatest strength for a championship big man striker his height would have been useful and it would warranted the decision if he came on |
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Post by utttrooper on Feb 18, 2024 0:45:24 GMT 1
Koroma and Wiles today were garbage. Bojan can't do any worse Koroma didn't get a sniff and I would have preferred him on the left, Sorba on the right and Rudoni as a false 9. When you hardly get the ball as a striker playing for a team performing like town did in the first half it's unfair to call him garbage. On the other hand Wiles looked well off the pace, didn't get on the ball enough and showed only glimmers compared to against Wednesday and with him being anonymous and the closest to Koroma it explains a large part of why Koroma couldn't get into the game |
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Post by westislandterrier on Feb 18, 2024 1:05:14 GMT 1
Well only Town eh - From The jaws of what felt like a victory to what felt like a 6-0 defeat and the undoubted psychological issue of failing to hold onto a lead ends up rearing it’s ugly head once again...
F**k They don’t half put us through the wringer at times -
There was always a chance that The Wendy’s would beat Millwall but QPR winning away at Bristol City is a blow and we need to be doing similar things or they will creep upon us and others like Birmingham City will romp away on us...
Just Watford then Leeds Up n’ coming so no pressure there then André 😬
On the subject of the referee Ms. Rebecca Welsh...
It would seem that she had a very poor game today being easily seduced by a lot of game management by Hull City which is a disopointment given that female referees in The Championship are a new and fledgling phenomenon -
I’m very much of the opinion that if she’s good enough then why on earth not and praise be given to her if it’s well due - but evidently today she absolutely was not and therefore deserves the exact same criticism that would be forthcoming to her male equivalents !
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Post by DuffMan on Feb 18, 2024 1:37:34 GMT 1
It means fast tracking an official so they can tick a box for the people insistent on being offended by everything Sounds like you’re the one offended, that a woman can be a referee. That old chestnut. I'm offended by her inability to manage the dark arts that were on show today. I didn't think she was that crap but her inexperience told and that is down to the fact that she hasn't refereed enough games to be tested at this level yet. She could have been an alien for all I care, zero issue with a woman refereeing in the mens game just don't fast track them up the leagues for some quota, let her earn her stripes alongside the other men/women/aliens. |
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Post by Up the Duff. on Feb 18, 2024 7:46:22 GMT 1
that along with sending Ward on over Bojan and chucking Pearson up front is why I was concerned about him getting the job til the end of the season, he’s got a lot to learn, and today proved it…thanks for steadying the ship Worthy lad all the same. From what I’ve seen of Radders, I’d have stuck (todays) Andy Booth up front ahead of him. Not sure he’d have had the muscle to make a difference He definitely needs to bulk up pretty quickly or he won't last in this division. |
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Post by duncfost01 on Feb 18, 2024 8:16:49 GMT 1
Typical of town that we now find ourselves back in the mix.
For sure we are much stronger and hopefully that will see us safe.
We now need that new manager bounce.
6 wins needed IMO.
UTT.
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Feb 18, 2024 8:40:58 GMT 1
Tough to take as we deserved a draw.
I always thought Rosenior was a decent manager until I saw their antics yesterday, pathetic behaviour from a club that has quality players, why not just let the football do the talking rather than dropping like flies every 2 minutes.
It’s difficult to say this, but if I put aside emotion, we seem to be more of a threat as a team when Kasumu is playing instead of Hogg.
Theres 9 teams in the mix now for 2 relegation spots.
Worthington has done us proud as without him letting us play football, we would most likely be in bottom 3 today.
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Post by dugnet on Feb 18, 2024 8:51:18 GMT 1
There are things that you can pick fault at yesterday but compared to the turgid dross under Moore the attitude, intent and positive effort was still evident.
Hull a much better team than Sunderland on the day but their "game management" from as soon as they scored the first goal didn't reflect well on them.
We are in the relegation dog fight because of two things in my view:
The poor summer window and the appointment of Moore. We can't roll back the clock so it's now down to Brightenreiter to keep the momentum JW has created and get the points we need. We've shown we are now capable but unfortunately we have little margin for error.
I'm hopeful we will pick up the points required.
As for the ref yesterday, she was doing OK up until the Sorba booking. She allowed Hull far too much leeway and didn't stamp down on the antics. More down to inexperience than anything else.
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Post by Manx Terrier on Feb 18, 2024 9:06:30 GMT 1
It means fast tracking an official so they can tick a box for the people insistent on being offended by everything Sounds like you’re the one offended, that a woman can be a referee. An unfair criticism of a town supporter in my opinion as I can't see anything said or suggested that could be interpreted as being offended that a woman can be a referee. If I have missed something then sorry for being unfair to you  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2024 9:37:07 GMT 1
Poor first half I thought. Odd choice to put Wiles up front. He had a couple of cameos where he turned their defenders but otherwise he looked slow in thought and action, which is a worry, given he was supposed to be the person who would really improve our midfield. Their shithousing, plus an inexperienced ref, meant the fans and the players got worked up, and that doesn't improve the football. Second half much better. Good subs and we really took it to them. Another day one of the times they scrambled it clear we would have scored, but it wasn't that sort of day. We deserved the equaliser but not defending the free kick right at the end was dreadful. All that hard work chucked away. They had more skill in their side than we did I thought. Even with us closing down they were confident of passing the ball out from the back. We have some 'solid' players who need upgrading I think, if we are to progress. Shame for Worthy's last game, but that is just how it goes. It will certainly have given the new guy food for thought. Hopefully we stay up and look to upgrade some areas in the summer. Wiles wasn’t ’up front’ and nobody had complaints when he played 10 against Sunderland not 3 days ago. It just didn’t work / fall for us today. Which is why we walk away with a loss and not a draw. Wiles was playing in an advanced position supporting Koroma. He has played well recently but he was poor in that position yesterday. He just doesn’t look sharp enough to be in the right place at the right time. As I’ve said before I don’t know if it is his legs or his head that slows him down but I hope it can be sorted. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2024 9:44:59 GMT 1
There are things that you can pick fault at yesterday but compared to the turgid dross under Moore the attitude, intent and positive effort was still evident. Hull a much better team than Sunderland on the day but their "game management" from as soon as they scored the first goal didn't reflect well on them. We are in the relegation dog fight because of two things in my view: The poor summer window and the appointment of Moore. We can't roll back the clock so it's now down to Brightenreiter to keep the momentum JW has created and get the points we need. We've shown we are now capable but unfortunately we have little margin for error. I'm hopeful we will pick up the points required. As for the ref yesterday, she was doing OK up until the Sorba booking. She allowed Hull far too much leeway and didn't stamp down on the antics. More down to inexperience than anything else. Sorba may have been in the right but if the ref says they are happy and you keep shouting at them you will get booked. I thought he would be off when he had the wrestling match with, I think, their number 23 over a throw in. We were all pissed off by their antics but he did walk a very fine line yesterday. |
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Post by stinkypete on Feb 18, 2024 9:46:30 GMT 1
Hogg is finished at this level, hopefully the new manager isn’t arsed about sentiment and drops him . Maybe a cameo to see out the game if we’re leading but I’m afraid he’s become a liability.
We win that if Kasumu starts.
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Post by pauldaltonsboots on Feb 18, 2024 10:01:08 GMT 1
Feel like a lot of these comments are very harsh.
First half was poor but partly due to tiredness and also credit to Hull who nullified us. Still an improvement on Moore’s time.
I sit behind the goal in the family stand and we battered them second half. We camped in their half and was like a game of attackers v defenders - yes quality could have been better but to dominate v a decent (albeit cheating) team is a positive sign and big turnaround in a few weeks to push a team back rather than being on the back foot all the time.
Balker looks tremendous - pace, strength, reading of the game and can ping a pass too. Him, Spencer and Helik in a back 4 together is very exciting.
A quality fox in the box yesterday probably makes some of the crosses look better. Personally I really like Thomas on the left - so dangerous going inside and outside and will help him add goals to his game. Del was electric when came on.
I think Kasuma is now ready to be a regular starter in centre mid - looks more composed now and has great drive and energy. However the comments about Hoggy are so disrespectful - yes he had a below average game but he was excellent v Sheff W a couple of weeks ago so hardly finished at this level. Still very fit and although time is catching up on him - still a decent player and great leader to have in the squad.
Decent squad - looking forward to AB getting hold of them and seeing what he can do. 7/8 players in our squad that most championship teams would be happy to have - more than good enough to stay up and with 2/3 additions next season (mainly in CM) and we will be very strong.
UTT
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Feb 18, 2024 10:05:23 GMT 1
Wiles played well against Wednesday and Sunderland but the game passed him by today.
Surprised we didn’t replace wiles with Rudoni, put Sorba on the right, Koroma on the left and burgzorg up front.
Hogg was also a weak link yesterday. I love him, but he was caught on the ball on several occasions and attacks broke down when he got the ball. We look much better going forwards with Kasumu.
Still feeling positive after yesterday. We will give anyone a game and with Helik to come back and Burgzorg to build up fitness we will get better.
Agree with most of what has been said about the ref. She should have booked their keeper for time wasting after about 30 mins and that would have put a lid on it. She didn’t and lost control at that point. 7 mins added on time in the first half was about right but only 4 at full time was a joke.
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Feb 18, 2024 10:06:21 GMT 1
There are things that you can pick fault at yesterday but compared to the turgid dross under Moore the attitude, intent and positive effort was still evident. Hull a much better team than Sunderland on the day but their "game management" from as soon as they scored the first goal didn't reflect well on them. We are in the relegation dog fight because of two things in my view: The poor summer window and the appointment of Moore. We can't roll back the clock so it's now down to Brightenreiter to keep the momentum JW has created and get the points we need. We've shown we are now capable but unfortunately we have little margin for error. I'm hopeful we will pick up the points required. As for the ref yesterday, she was doing OK up until the Sorba booking. She allowed Hull far too much leeway and didn't stamp down on the antics. More down to inexperience than anything else. Sorba may have been in the right but if the ref says they are happy and you keep shouting at them you will get booked. I thought he would be off when he had the wrestling match with, I think, their number 23 over a throw in. We were all pissed off by their antics but he did walk a very fine line yesterday. Their number 23 had also been booked so she would have had to send them both off. |
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Post by kennyk2 on Feb 18, 2024 10:35:04 GMT 1
Feel like a lot of these comments are very harsh. First half was poor but partly due to tiredness and also credit to Hull who nullified us. Still an improvement on Moore’s time. I sit behind the goal in the family stand and we battered them second half. We camped in their half and was like a game of attackers v defenders - yes quality could have been better but to dominate v a decent (albeit cheating) team is a positive sign and big turnaround in a few weeks to push a team back rather than being on the back foot all the time. Balker looks tremendous - pace, strength, reading of the game and can ping a pass too. Him, Spencer and Helik in a back 4 together is very exciting. A quality fox in the box yesterday probably makes some of the crosses look better. Personally I really like Thomas on the left - so dangerous going inside and outside and will help him add goals to his game. Del was electric when came on. I think Kasuma is now ready to be a regular starter in centre mid - looks more composed now and has great drive and energy. However the comments about Hoggy are so disrespectful - yes he had a below average game but he was excellent v Sheff W a couple of weeks ago so hardly finished at this level. Still very fit and although time is catching up on him - still a decent player and great leader to have in the squad. Decent squad - looking forward to AB getting hold of them and seeing what he can do. 7/8 players in our squad that most championship teams would be happy to have - more than good enough to stay up and with 2/3 additions next season (mainly in CM) and we will be very strong. UTT We've gone toe-to-toe with the best in this division at times (except Leeds), but either they have had that little bit too much quality or we just didn't get the luck of the draw. That's what happens sometimes. |
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Post by kennyk2 on Feb 18, 2024 10:37:09 GMT 1
Typical of town that we now find ourselves back in the mix. For sure we are much stronger and hopefully that will see us safe. We now need that new manager bounce. 6 wins needed IMO. UTT. I saw that Steve Chicken said 4, Dave Hartrick 5. |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Feb 18, 2024 10:51:41 GMT 1
Sounds like you’re the one offended, that a woman can be a referee. That old chestnut. I'm offended by her inability to manage the dark arts that were on show today. I didn't think she was that crap but her inexperience told and that is down to the fact that she hasn't refereed enough games to be tested at this level yet. She could have been an alien for all I care, zero issue with a woman refereeing in the mens game just don't fast track them up the leagues for some quota, let her earn her stripes alongside the other men/women/aliens. It wasn’t an ‘old chestnut’ it was an observation. If you don’t want to be described as being offended, don’t choose a selection of words that make you sound offended. For what it’s worth I agree with your wording there - not sure why it’s necessary to talk about a woke army of idiots, it just demeans and antagonises the debate. She clearly was either too weak or inexperienced to address the blatant gamesmanship. It ruined the spectacle. I’d hope the club writes a complaint to the league because it wasn’t good enough and if she wants to have a good career being judged on her ability and not gender she needs to be able to handle a team like that. If that was a PL game she’d be crucified and trending on social media. |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Feb 18, 2024 10:53:19 GMT 1
Sounds like you’re the one offended, that a woman can be a referee. An unfair criticism of a town supporter in my opinion as I can't see anything said or suggested that could be interpreted as being offended that a woman can be a referee. If I have missed something then sorry for being unfair to you See earlier comment about an army of woke idiots. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Feb 18, 2024 10:54:29 GMT 1
Watched the highlights back and Rufoni doesn't cover himself in glory, from hero to zero.
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Post by terrier17 on Feb 18, 2024 10:55:00 GMT 1
Typical of town that we now find ourselves back in the mix. For sure we are much stronger and hopefully that will see us safe. We now need that new manager bounce. 6 wins needed IMO. UTT. We won’t need 6 wins… |
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