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Post by softboy on May 11, 2024 18:56:24 GMT 1
Going back to AB. Worst Manager of season by far. Doesn’t want to be here. Why on earth would anybody want him to stay?
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Post by ruggedivy on May 11, 2024 18:57:32 GMT 1
That Burgzorg instagram post taking shots at AB and the players commenting on it says a hell of a lot, hopefully we bin the lot and start again. Burgzorg is a prick. We didn't need AB to point that out! See ya dickheeeaddddd! |
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Post by BlueValour on May 11, 2024 18:58:10 GMT 1
Is that meant to be a yolk? These puns really crack me up. Eggsactly! |
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Post by htafcokay on May 11, 2024 19:03:13 GMT 1
Going back to AB. Worst Manager of season by far. Doesn’t want to be here. Why on earth would anybody want him to stay? 😴 |
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Post by daltonterrier44 on May 11, 2024 20:33:06 GMT 1
That Burgzorg instagram post taking shots at AB and the players commenting on it says a hell of a lot, hopefully we bin the lot and start again. Burgzorg is a prick. We didn't need AB to point that out! See ya dickheeeaddddd! pointed it out himself! |
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Post by Big Ern on May 11, 2024 20:35:20 GMT 1
Going back to AB. Worst Manager of season by far. Doesn’t want to be here. Why on earth would anybody want him to stay? 😴 I have agreed with your stance a lot on AB but now he has walked away you must think that he lacked the bottle for the fight OR is above his station. I wanted him to stay I really did but the fact he hasn't does not give him any credibility whatsoever. |
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Post by htafcokay on May 11, 2024 20:51:31 GMT 1
I have agreed with your stance a lot on AB but now he has walked away you must think that he lacked the bottle for the fight OR is above his station. I wanted him to stay I really did but the fact he hasn't does not give him any credibility whatsoever. I think he lacked the bottle for the fight. However, just because he's left, it doesn't mean that what he said is now wrong. He was 100% correct. But the backlash against him has been a joke. People are denying what they can see with their own eyes, people are still insisting that Schofield/Fotheringham/Warnock/Moore/Breitenreiter/Nagle/Edwards/Cartwright are to blame (depending on which agenda it is this week) and it still hasn't dawned on them that the only constant is the playing staff. |
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Post by Teddington Ted on May 11, 2024 21:04:11 GMT 1
Not only do most players lack the talent and application desired, they’ve are also a deeply unlikable bunch.
At least when Billing, Terry K et al wanted out, it was because they actually were decent players who could play at a better level.
The current crop are stealing a living whilst thinking we are actually lucky to have them on the payroll.
Who we get out of the club will be just as important as who we bring in this summer.
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Post by irverino on May 11, 2024 21:51:53 GMT 1
The team AB spent most of his playing career Holstein Kiel have just gained automatic promotion to the Bundesliga tonight for the very 1st time & some great scenes amongst the fans many of whom had scissors to cut bits of the nets for a keepsake (German thing?), not sure if AB is there but if not he can catch up with both his ex employers at Hannover next week for their final game in Bundesliga 2......Or he could be in hiding after relegating Town, doubt it though.
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Post by King Neil on May 11, 2024 21:56:09 GMT 1
"He leaves when he wants"
"He leaves when he wants"
"Breitenreiter"
"He leaves when he wants"
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Post by BlueValour on May 11, 2024 21:59:15 GMT 1
Not only do most players lack the talent and application desired, they’ve are also a deeply unlikable bunch. What do you base this on? How many of our players have you had a conversation with? |
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Post by uptownfunk on May 12, 2024 9:09:22 GMT 1
Going back to AB. Worst Manager of season by far. Doesn’t want to be here. Why on earth would anybody want him to stay? I’d go as far as saying the worst manager we’ve ever had. On a par with Sievert and Fothy and Moore. |
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Post by football on May 12, 2024 9:15:35 GMT 1
Going back to AB. Worst Manager of season by far. Doesn’t want to be here. Why on earth would anybody want him to stay? I’d go as far as saying the worst manager we’ve ever had. On a par with Sievert and Fothy and Moore. You'd have to throw Schofield in there, nice lad though he is, that first game playing Burnley was OMG moment. |
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Post by cecerececerececere on May 12, 2024 9:16:30 GMT 1
Well fook off Andre! He was Cartwrights man. Cartwright has to follow...or is he bulletproof? Or is he licking Kevs hairy bullethole? Well actually duff was cartwrights man but there you go Maybe keep Cartwright on then, due to his inability to land his first choice manager? Or then going with his second choice who wasn't the right fit. It was well documented that the squad wasn't fit enough so it defies logic to appoint a manager whose playing style requires the squad to be in peak fitness. |
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Post by dezzly on May 12, 2024 10:01:41 GMT 1
Well actually duff was cartwrights man but there you go Maybe keep Cartwright on then, due to his inability to land his first choice manager? Or then going with his second choice who wasn't the right fit. It was well documented that the squad wasn't fit enough so it defies logic to appoint a manager whose playing style requires the squad to be in peak fitness. I was more suggesting that maybe the decision was taken out of his hands from above.I don’t know this for fact or anything I just know that was suggested to me cartwright wanted duff. Also things do change. On the fitness thing I get where you’re coming from but pretty much with the exception of Warnock managers these days want a particular level of fitness,I think it would have been difficult to recruit many(if any) that didn’t want them fitter than they were.Though,yes andre himself and his playing style maybe leans heavily on fitness. Lastly I’m not suggesting I think Cartwright has done a good job as the facts clearly point to the opposite I was just trying to suggest that maybe andre was not his decision,maybe the owner took over.Anotjer downside in him constantly been on twitter is he can easily be swayed.All the noise around the rumours of duff was that the football wouldn’t be attacking enough,so possibly he went above Cartwright and got someone who he believed would produce that. It did not work whoever’s appointment it was. |
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Post by cecerececerececere on May 12, 2024 10:21:43 GMT 1
Thought Duffs refusal to relocate was the reason it fell through?
As "Sporting Director" I'd guess that choosing the first team coach would be a fundamental responsibility.
But who knows. However, if the Sporting Director is being over-ruled on this sort of decision, you've got to ask what's the point of him being there
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Post by dezzly on May 12, 2024 10:27:27 GMT 1
Thought Duffs refusal to relocate was the reason it fell through? As "Sporting Director" I'd guess that choosing the first team coach would be a fundamental responsibility. But who knows. However, if the Sporting Director is being over-ruled on this sort of decision, you've got to ask what's the point of him being there Would totally agree. Like I say I don’t know this,was just suggesting could it be the case. |
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Post by htafcokay on May 12, 2024 10:33:04 GMT 1
Going back to AB. Worst Manager of season by far. Doesn’t want to be here. Why on earth would anybody want him to stay? I’d go as far as saying the worst manager we’ve ever had. On a par with Sievert and Fothy and Moore. Absolute rubbish. |
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Post by schindlersmissed on May 12, 2024 10:50:39 GMT 1
Think they’ll go up this time though Maybe. Think playoff finals are always a bit of a lottery and it’s a case of who turns up on the day. Hoping they don’t as it’s an easier away day trip than Oxford. |
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Post by schindlersmissed on May 12, 2024 10:51:49 GMT 1
Is that meant to be a yolk? These puns really crack me up. Eggsactly my thoughts |
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Post by goodbet on May 12, 2024 11:30:07 GMT 1
As we are all getting over AB's decision to leave us high and dry, I would like to consider his stay here with us from a slightly different point of view.
He arrived with what has been described as a good, CV but his performance was poor his results were worse than anyone's apart from Scofield's.
We have not had a Championship quality team since we were promoted, when we were relegated the team looked shell shocked and looked like they needed a break from football. One by one we we sold them all off (except one) and then replaced them with ex-Town has beens, injury prone players and longshot hopefuls from the lower league.
We had a team that we have seen weren't capable of passing to one another on a consistent basis.
AB's employment could have been just a big mismatch in expectations. When you look at his employment record I doubt he has ever worked with such a poor squad before. It would not be hard to envisage that AB thought that they were taking the piss big time and then add to that we do have a few players that are difficult to handle and what do we get.
We get AB's parting shot and blamed the players, which I can see from his point of view he would actually believe everything that he said.
From watching Town over the years, I still find it difficult to believe that we have a squad this is so bereft of quality, so I think that the story I outlined above could have some validity to it.
If there is, it is not so surprising that he ran away when he did and gave KN some time to try and find a replacement.
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Post by softboy on May 12, 2024 15:33:37 GMT 1
He turned a poor squad who were just about good enough to stay up onto a very poor squad who were nowhere near staying up.
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Post by htfcterry on May 12, 2024 15:35:38 GMT 1
He turned a poor squad who were just about good enough to stay up onto a very poor squad who were nowhere near staying up. We get your point. You've rammed it down our throats for the last 150 pages 😂 He's gone now so it doesn't matter. What matters is getting the right man in ASAP. |
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Post by uptownfunk on May 12, 2024 15:45:10 GMT 1
I’d go as far as saying the worst manager we’ve ever had. On a par with Sievert and Fothy and Moore. You'd have to throw Schofield in there, nice lad though he is, that first game playing Burnley was OMG moment. You’re not wrong. |
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Post by uptownfunk on May 12, 2024 15:52:44 GMT 1
I’d go as far as saying the worst manager we’ve ever had. On a par with Sievert and Fothy and Moore. Absolute rubbish. Record. Rapport with players, tactics, formation, substitutions, relegation, post relegation attack on club/players, hung around a week then walked. I can’t find a single good thing about his time here. Bizarre left field appointment that was never gonna work with this squad with 12 games to go..He should not have been approached and he should not have taken it as he’s acknowledged himself publicly. Nevermind, hopefully they can do better next time but I’m not holding my breath. |
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Post by uptownfunk on May 12, 2024 15:56:13 GMT 1
As we are all getting over AB's decision to leave us high and dry, I would like to consider his stay here with us from a slightly different point of view. He arrived with what has been described as a good, CV but his performance was poor his results were worse than anyone's apart from Scofield's. We have not had a Championship quality team since we were promoted, when we were relegated the team looked shell shocked and looked like they needed a break from football. One by one we we sold them all off (except one) and then replaced them with ex-Town has beens, injury prone players and longshot hopefuls from the lower league. We had a team that we have seen weren't capable of passing to one another on a consistent basis. AB's employment could have been just a big mismatch in expectations. When you look at his employment record I doubt he has ever worked with such a poor squad before. It would not be hard to envisage that AB thought that they were taking the piss big time and then add to that we do have a few players that are difficult to handle and what do we get. We get AB's parting shot and blamed the players, which I can see from his point of view he would actually believe everything that he said. From watching Town over the years, I still find it difficult to believe that we have a squad this is so bereft of quality, so I think that the story I outlined above could have some validity to it. If there is, it is not so surprising that he ran away when he did and gave KN some time to try and find a replacement. I took everthing he said after Swansea with a pinch of salt. He was not for Town it was obvious. I can’t believe people thought he was gonna honour his contract. No chance. It could not have gone worse. Time to move on from Andre and focus on the club now and moving forward. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on May 12, 2024 16:00:59 GMT 1
Do we think this is one of those appointments where the person in question has burnt their bridges?
Maybe with some supporters, not sure about the owner?
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Post by mosher on May 12, 2024 16:05:57 GMT 1
I was in the boat of liking AB, thinking he was a good manager who'd been dealt a shit hand (albeit playing that hand craply) and would galvanise the club next season and have a Wagner-esque effect. But now I think he's a fucking coward** who should have the balls to turn around the bollocks he's played a part (however large or small people think) in creating. Now I'm of the opinion good riddance to the bottleless prick even though I STILL think he's a decent manager, his previous track record is pretty damn good. ** With the caveat that maybe KN hasn't promised enough backing, maybe Justasmithers could enlighten us on that score. |
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Post by westislandterrier on May 12, 2024 16:26:04 GMT 1
Thanks for nothing Andre. Aye but unfortunately it wasn’t nothing from Andre... He gave us R E L E G A T I O N..... ☹️ 😬 🤮 😥 ☠️ |
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Post by melbourneterrier on May 13, 2024 0:57:20 GMT 1
Had a couple of days to think this over before posting an opinion.
Prior to him actually leaving, I was in 2 minds about him. Part of me wanted a fresh start, AB hadn't exactly done well result wise, I question some of his line ups and subs use and I didn't see a playing style or what he was wanting to achieve. However, another part of me wanted him to stay due to his history, and I liked that he was calling out the BS (albeit late, and why was he playing DB for example up until we were realistically down).
Now we know he isn't staying, I find myself surprisingly (and it's surprising because I was so mixed on him) disappointed that he isn't staying on board. He had a chance to show was what he was saying was true, he had the backing of KN. The ball seemed to be in his court.
Now looking at it, he won 2/13, bad mouthed players, said he wouldn't have come if he knew what it was like, then packed up his bags and left 3 months into a 2 year deal. On paper, a very disappointing end, to a very disappointing reign
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