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Post by Justasmithers on May 13, 2024 2:35:05 GMT 1
I was in the boat of liking AB, thinking he was a good manager who'd been dealt a shit hand (albeit playing that hand craply) and would galvanise the club next season and have a Wagner-esque effect. But now I think he's a fucking coward** who should have the balls to turn around the bollocks he's played a part (however large or small people think) in creating. Now I'm of the opinion good riddance to the bottleless prick even though I STILL think he's a decent manager, his previous track record is pretty damn good. ** With the caveat that maybe KN hasn't promised enough backing, maybe Justasmithers could enlighten us on that score. Backing was 100% not the issue. I’m not in Andre’s head, but whether family, L1, or whatever, he just didn’t see it as a fit and he’s wished nothing but the best. Ever forward…. |
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on May 13, 2024 3:14:04 GMT 1
There's not many managers that can get relegated and still have the full support of the owner, and (as I would read it) the support of the fans.
If staying was still on the table what more could he have expected? Feels to me like his decision was made whether he realised it at the time or not.
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Post by Baby-face Frankenstein on May 13, 2024 14:57:42 GMT 1
Hope I'm not repeating old news, but I've just come across an article in HSV24 (some website associated with Hamburg SV in Germany).
Quick (machine) translation:
He was briefly discussed as a possible successor at HSV following the dismissal of Tim Walter in February, but André Breitenreiter's appointment at Volkspark (Hamburg) did not materialise in the end. Instead, the 50-year-old, who also played for HSV as a professional between 1994 and 1998, signed with English second division club Huddersfield Town, which he was supposed to save from relegation. Barely three months later, it is clear that the goal has been missed - and Breitenreiter has already lost his job. Prior to that, he was unable to give the team the hoped-for boost, with Huddersfield managing just two wins under the 50-year-old's watch.
The truth is, however, that Huddersfield's mission to avoid relegation was a disaster right from the start. The players are said to have been at severe odds with each other, and there were even rumours of brawls in the dressing room. The thing is: Breitenreiter apparently knew nothing about it. He told Bild (German tabloid): "It was mission impossible! If I had known about it beforehand, I would never have signed for Huddersfield."
Well, you've got to be careful of what you read in the "Bild", but they do sometimes get it right. I wonder if it's true about the supposed brawls? I mean these things happen in football, but is it something the new manager will need to know?
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Post by dxterrier on May 13, 2024 15:31:50 GMT 1
Hope I'm not repeating old news, but I've just come across an article in HSV24 (some website associated with Hamburg SV in Germany). Quick (machine) translation: He was briefly discussed as a possible successor at HSV following the dismissal of Tim Walter in February, but André Breitenreiter's appointment at Volkspark (Hamburg) did not materialise in the end. Instead, the 50-year-old, who also played for HSV as a professional between 1994 and 1998, signed with English second division club Huddersfield Town, which he was supposed to save from relegation. Barely three months later, it is clear that the goal has been missed - and Breitenreiter has already lost his job. Prior to that, he was unable to give the team the hoped-for boost, with Huddersfield managing just two wins under the 50-year-old's watch. The truth is, however, that Huddersfield's mission to avoid relegation was a disaster right from the start. The players are said to have been at severe odds with each other, and there were even rumours of brawls in the dressing room. The thing is: Breitenreiter apparently knew nothing about it. He told Bild (German tabloid): "It was mission impossible! If I had known about it beforehand, I would never have signed for Huddersfield." Well, you've got to be careful of what you read in the "Bild", but they do sometimes get it right. I wonder if it's true about the supposed brawls? I mean these things happen in football, but is it something the new manager will need to know? It would certainly be easy to believe, and would explain the sheer apathy of most of them for most of the season |
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Post by teddytheterrier on May 13, 2024 18:06:11 GMT 1
Awful appointment, gone. Let’s move on. Good luck to him, he may add some more promotions to his cv elsewhere but it didn’t work out at town.
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Post by ben1987 on May 13, 2024 19:47:32 GMT 1
Awful appointment, gone. Let’s move on. Good luck to him, he may add some more promotions to his cv elsewhere but it didn’t work out at town. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Go tell yourself that, princess. All you’ve done is bang on about him. Go practise what you preach. Your last seven posts have been about AB. |
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Post by boooothy on May 13, 2024 19:54:20 GMT 1
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Post by tepidterrier on May 13, 2024 19:55:45 GMT 1
Hope I'm not repeating old news, but I've just come across an article in HSV24 (some website associated with Hamburg SV in Germany). Quick (machine) translation: He was briefly discussed as a possible successor at HSV following the dismissal of Tim Walter in February, but André Breitenreiter's appointment at Volkspark (Hamburg) did not materialise in the end. Instead, the 50-year-old, who also played for HSV as a professional between 1994 and 1998, signed with English second division club Huddersfield Town, which he was supposed to save from relegation. Barely three months later, it is clear that the goal has been missed - and Breitenreiter has already lost his job. Prior to that, he was unable to give the team the hoped-for boost, with Huddersfield managing just two wins under the 50-year-old's watch. The truth is, however, that Huddersfield's mission to avoid relegation was a disaster right from the start. The players are said to have been at severe odds with each other, and there were even rumours of brawls in the dressing room. The thing is: Breitenreiter apparently knew nothing about it. He told Bild (German tabloid): "It was mission impossible! If I had known about it beforehand, I would never have signed for Huddersfield." Well, you've got to be careful of what you read in the "Bild", but they do sometimes get it right. I wonder if it's true about the supposed brawls? I mean these things happen in football, but is it something the new manager will need to know? I wonder if this is what's getting inferred about Sorba Thomas in the Burgzorg thread? Would make sense! |
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Post by Baby-face Frankenstein on May 13, 2024 20:22:20 GMT 1
Hope I'm not repeating old news, but I've just come across an article in HSV24 (some website associated with Hamburg SV in Germany). Quick (machine) translation: He was briefly discussed as a possible successor at HSV following the dismissal of Tim Walter in February, but André Breitenreiter's appointment at Volkspark (Hamburg) did not materialise in the end. Instead, the 50-year-old, who also played for HSV as a professional between 1994 and 1998, signed with English second division club Huddersfield Town, which he was supposed to save from relegation. Barely three months later, it is clear that the goal has been missed - and Breitenreiter has already lost his job. Prior to that, he was unable to give the team the hoped-for boost, with Huddersfield managing just two wins under the 50-year-old's watch. The truth is, however, that Huddersfield's mission to avoid relegation was a disaster right from the start. The players are said to have been at severe odds with each other, and there were even rumours of brawls in the dressing room. The thing is: Breitenreiter apparently knew nothing about it. He told Bild (German tabloid): "It was mission impossible! If I had known about it beforehand, I would never have signed for Huddersfield." Well, you've got to be careful of what you read in the "Bild", but they do sometimes get it right. I wonder if it's true about the supposed brawls? I mean these things happen in football, but is it something the new manager will need to know? I wonder if this is what's getting inferred about Sorba Thomas in the Burgzorg thread? Would make sense! Don't know - Breitenreiter mentioned brawls, so he's making it sound like it happened more than once. Can't see it happening too often under Duff (have you seen his uppercut in that Duff Dance vid?)  |
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Post by Fish & Chips on May 13, 2024 20:27:21 GMT 1
This should go under previous managers now ?
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2024 20:32:37 GMT 1
Quite sad how this ended really.
However that win at watford will live long in the memory, one of the best days out i’ve had supporting town in a long while.
Fairwell DR DRE.
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Post by londoncowling on May 14, 2024 0:22:52 GMT 1
Had a couple of days to think this over before posting an opinion. Prior to him actually leaving, I was in 2 minds about him. Part of me wanted a fresh start, AB hadn't exactly done well result wise, I question some of his line ups and subs use and I didn't see a playing style or what he was wanting to achieve. However, another part of me wanted him to stay due to his history, and I liked that he was calling out the BS (albeit late, and why was he playing DB for example up until we were realistically down). Now we know he isn't staying, I find myself surprisingly (and it's surprising because I was so mixed on him) disappointed that he isn't staying on board. He had a chance to show was what he was saying was true, he had the backing of KN. The ball seemed to be in his court. Now looking at it, he won 2/13, bad mouthed players, said he wouldn't have come if he knew what it was like, then packed up his bags and left 3 months into a 2 year deal. On paper, a very disappointing end, to a very disappointing reign what a pile of ***$ the last symbol is there for a reason you absolute mercenary hoping your daft jumper shrinks in the wash |
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Post by belizian on May 14, 2024 1:45:04 GMT 1
Hope I'm not repeating old news, but I've just come across an article in HSV24 (some website associated with Hamburg SV in Germany). Quick (machine) translation: He was briefly discussed as a possible successor at HSV following the dismissal of Tim Walter in February, but André Breitenreiter's appointment at Volkspark (Hamburg) did not materialise in the end. Instead, the 50-year-old, who also played for HSV as a professional between 1994 and 1998, signed with English second division club Huddersfield Town, which he was supposed to save from relegation. Barely three months later, it is clear that the goal has been missed - and Breitenreiter has already lost his job. Prior to that, he was unable to give the team the hoped-for boost, with Huddersfield managing just two wins under the 50-year-old's watch. The truth is, however, that Huddersfield's mission to avoid relegation was a disaster right from the start. The players are said to have been at severe odds with each other, and there were even rumours of brawls in the dressing room. The thing is: Breitenreiter apparently knew nothing about it. He told Bild (German tabloid): "It was mission impossible! If I had known about it beforehand, I would never have signed for Huddersfield." Well, you've got to be careful of what you read in the "Bild", but they do sometimes get it right. I wonder if it's true about the supposed brawls? I mean these things happen in football, but is it something the new manager will need to know? It would certainly be easy to believe, and would explain the sheer apathy of most of them for most of the season And some of the injuries? Lol |
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Post by melbourneterrier on May 14, 2024 2:13:19 GMT 1
Had a couple of days to think this over before posting an opinion. Prior to him actually leaving, I was in 2 minds about him. Part of me wanted a fresh start, AB hadn't exactly done well result wise, I question some of his line ups and subs use and I didn't see a playing style or what he was wanting to achieve. However, another part of me wanted him to stay due to his history, and I liked that he was calling out the BS (albeit late, and why was he playing DB for example up until we were realistically down). Now we know he isn't staying, I find myself surprisingly (and it's surprising because I was so mixed on him) disappointed that he isn't staying on board. He had a chance to show was what he was saying was true, he had the backing of KN. The ball seemed to be in his court. Now looking at it, he won 2/13, bad mouthed players, said he wouldn't have come if he knew what it was like, then packed up his bags and left 3 months into a 2 year deal. On paper, a very disappointing end, to a very disappointing reign what a pile of ***$ the last symbol is there for a reason you absolute mercenary hoping your daft jumper shrinks in the wash Umm.... okay? You alright bud? Having a bad day? |
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Post by BlueValour on May 14, 2024 3:25:06 GMT 1
All these reports of bad eggs, dressing room brawls etc only emerged when it was clear that AB wasn't going to keep us up. If any of this was true, surely something would have been said when Worthy was in charge?
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Post by londoncowling on May 14, 2024 9:07:38 GMT 1
what a pile of ***$ the last symbol is there for a reason you absolute mercenary hoping your daft jumper shrinks in the wash Umm.... okay? You alright bud? Having a bad day? no bud sorry my rant was my immediate reaction to the AB Bild interview thought i’d quoted baby face who’d kindly translated for us wasn’t meant to offend you mate it’s my current view on AB having slept on it i’m sticking with my post the bloke is still slagging off our club and playing staff to try save face in my opinion as he can’t back track now come to the conclusion he came mostly for the money hope his jumper went in a boil wash |
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Post by town1 on May 14, 2024 9:25:13 GMT 1
It’s embarrassing and unprofessional that AB and his staff are still down as in charge on the town website.
Media team need to up their game.
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Post by incognito on May 14, 2024 9:45:39 GMT 1
Umm.... okay? You alright bud? Having a bad day? no bud sorry my rant was my immediate reaction to the AB Bild interview thought i’d quoted baby face who’d kindly translated for us wasn’t meant to offend you mate it’s my current view on AB having slept on it i’m sticking with my post the bloke is still slagging off our club and playing staff to try save face in my opinion as he can’t back track now come to the conclusion he came mostly for the money hope his jumper went in a boil wash It's a business. He needs these 'extenuating circumstances' in the minds of Sporting Directors and fans back home in order to persuade them to overlook his English failure when he's being touted for his next job. It's probably not the last of these types of articles that will appear. Perhaps the question we should be asking ourselves is, to what extent, in his post-Swansea (post-relegation) 'observations', might he have been hamming it up as part of a pre-emptive PR exercise? Either way, he's history. |
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Post by uptownfunk on May 14, 2024 9:52:27 GMT 1
He couldn’t get a job in Germany after 3 failures there. Failed miserably in England. Successful in Switzerland so expect him to head back there. It certainly wasn’t mission impossible at town but just turning up and enforcing double training with tem games to go in a relegation fight was brainless naive and was never going to work. Showed virtually no motivation or consideration for town during and after his tenure and left with very little dignity with his chances of working in england rightly over.
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Post by londoncowling on May 14, 2024 9:54:17 GMT 1
no bud sorry my rant was my immediate reaction to the AB Bild interview thought i’d quoted baby face who’d kindly translated for us wasn’t meant to offend you mate it’s my current view on AB having slept on it i’m sticking with my post the bloke is still slagging off our club and playing staff to try save face in my opinion as he can’t back track now come to the conclusion he came mostly for the money hope his jumper went in a boil wash It's a business. He needs these 'extenuating circumstances' in the minds of Sporting Directors and fans back home in order to persuade them to overlook his English failure when he's being touted for his next job. It's probably not the last of these types of articles that will appear. Perhaps the question we should be asking ourselves is, to what extent, in his post-Swansea (post-relegation) 'observations', might he have been hamming it up as part of a pre-emptive PR exercise? Either way, he's history. correct agree his rep is damaged and he’s saying what he feels may help him out of his hole to Towns detriment |
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Post by uptownfunk on May 14, 2024 10:00:45 GMT 1
no bud sorry my rant was my immediate reaction to the AB Bild interview thought i’d quoted baby face who’d kindly translated for us wasn’t meant to offend you mate it’s my current view on AB having slept on it i’m sticking with my post the bloke is still slagging off our club and playing staff to try save face in my opinion as he can’t back track now come to the conclusion he came mostly for the money hope his jumper went in a boil wash It's a business. He needs these 'extenuating circumstances' in the minds of Sporting Directors and fans back home in order to persuade them to overlook his English failure when he's being touted for his next job. It's probably not the last of these types of articles that will appear. Perhaps the question we should be asking ourselves is, to what extent, in his post-Swansea (post-relegation) 'observations', might he have been hamming it up as part of a pre-emptive PR exercise? Either way, he's history. Everything he said is totally irrelevant. All self serving comments. I don’t believe a word of what he said and never have. The loyalty shown to him by some town fans has been truly bizarre. I said about 20 pages ago that his whole narrative was self serving & it was like I was offending the dead queen. A guy who was here for 3 months who made us worse. Can’t believe anyone in their right mind would’ve wanted him leading the club any longer. |
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Post by htafcokay on May 14, 2024 10:02:28 GMT 1
It's a business. He needs these 'extenuating circumstances' in the minds of Sporting Directors and fans back home in order to persuade them to overlook his English failure when he's being touted for his next job. It's probably not the last of these types of articles that will appear. Perhaps the question we should be asking ourselves is, to what extent, in his post-Swansea (post-relegation) 'observations', might he have been hamming it up as part of a pre-emptive PR exercise? Either way, he's history. Everything he said is totally irrelevant. All self serving comments. I don’t believe a word of what he said and never have. The loyalty shown to him by some town fans has been truly bizarre. I said about 20 pages ago that his whole narrative was self serving & it was like I was offending the dead queen. A guy who was here for 3 months who made us worse. Can’t believe anyone in their right mind would’ve wanted him leading the club any longer. Some of us, who have watched those losers for the last two seasons, could relate to his comments and were grateful that someone had finally observed what we've been observing for the last two seasons. |
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Post by uptownfunk on May 14, 2024 10:10:17 GMT 1
Everything he said is totally irrelevant. All self serving comments. I don’t believe a word of what he said and never have. The loyalty shown to him by some town fans has been truly bizarre. I said about 20 pages ago that his whole narrative was self serving & it was like I was offending the dead queen. A guy who was here for 3 months who made us worse. Can’t believe anyone in their right mind would’ve wanted him leading the club any longer. Some of us, who have watched those losers for the last two seasons, could relate to his comments and were grateful that someone had finally observed what we've been observing for the last two seasons. What coming out and saying all the players were lazy shitehawks. Totally get how that resonated with the fans but that why he said it too. Anyone could have said it. Did we need the manager to come out and say it then walk away? Not for me. |
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Post by exberlinerterrier on May 14, 2024 10:57:34 GMT 1
It's a business. He needs these 'extenuating circumstances' in the minds of Sporting Directors and fans back home in order to persuade them to overlook his English failure when he's being touted for his next job. It's probably not the last of these types of articles that will appear. Perhaps the question we should be asking ourselves is, to what extent, in his post-Swansea (post-relegation) 'observations', might he have been hamming it up as part of a pre-emptive PR exercise? Either way, he's history. Everything he said is totally irrelevant. All self serving comments. I don’t believe a word of what he said and never have. The loyalty shown to him by some town fans has been truly bizarre. I said about 20 pages ago that his whole narrative was self serving & it was like I was offending the dead queen. A guy who was here for 3 months who made us worse. Can’t believe anyone in their right mind would’ve wanted him leading the club any longer. Why are you so adamant that what he said was self serving? Do you disagree that the players often looked half-arsed and put in sub-par performances regularly? Even though he's gone now, AB's comments shed some light on problems within the squad. If the club decide to act on that this summer (by getting rid of the problematic personalities) then he'll be vindicated and he will have started the process of a cultural reset at Town. I think we can all agree that it is desperately needed. |
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Post by irverino on May 14, 2024 10:58:08 GMT 1
no bud sorry my rant was my immediate reaction to the AB Bild interview thought i’d quoted baby face who’d kindly translated for us wasn’t meant to offend you mate it’s my current view on AB having slept on it i’m sticking with my post the bloke is still slagging off our club and playing staff to try save face in my opinion as he can’t back track now come to the conclusion he came mostly for the money hope his jumper went in a boil wash It's a business. He needs these 'extenuating circumstances' in the minds of Sporting Directors and fans back home in order to persuade them to overlook his English failure when he's being touted for his next job. It's probably not the last of these types of articles that will appear. Perhaps the question we should be asking ourselves is, to what extent, in his post-Swansea (post-relegation) 'observations', might he have been hamming it up as part of a pre-emptive PR exercise? Either way, he's history. From adoring the players after the win at home to Millwall a couple of games later he turned into Shaggy (pop singer)...........It wasn't ME! |
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Post by Big Ern on May 14, 2024 11:06:21 GMT 1
For me his reputation is well and truly tarnished. The way he could have salvaged it was to stay and get us promoted, not say a load of shit then walk away. It's not a good look.
I wanted him to stay and do just that but now in my opinion he just comes across as a bit of a coward.
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Post by uptownfunk on May 14, 2024 13:13:31 GMT 1
Everything he said is totally irrelevant. All self serving comments. I don’t believe a word of what he said and never have. The loyalty shown to him by some town fans has been truly bizarre. I said about 20 pages ago that his whole narrative was self serving & it was like I was offending the dead queen. A guy who was here for 3 months who made us worse. Can’t believe anyone in their right mind would’ve wanted him leading the club any longer. Why are you so adamant that what he said was self serving? Do you disagree that the players often looked half-arsed and put in sub-par performances regularly? Even though he's gone now, AB's comments shed some light on problems within the squad. If the club decide to act on that this summer (by getting rid of the problematic personalities) then he'll be vindicated and he will have started the process of a cultural reset at Town. I think we can all agree that it is desperately needed. Very fair question. Happy to answer. I have rationale for all my opinions. Yes 100% agree some of the players put in half arsed performances at times but not necessarily the players Andre referred to. Sorba tried hard in most of his games, in fact I felt he tried harder and showed more fight and club loyalty than several others at times this season, despite being moved position often and it changing system role. I felt the comments were very predictable and unlike other fans I felt very confident he wouldn’t be staying on. If he wanted to help the club (who was paying him well) then he could have given a detailed report to Cartwright et al and they could have acted on it or passed the dossier straight on to the next manager. Why do it publicly? Unless you want the wider public to hear how bad the players were and how it wasn’t so much down to his performance. Those comments were not made to help the club rebuild as you say as that could’ve been achieved privately as would be standard. Those comments appeased our angry fans - fans that he was no longer representing - but they didn’t help the club and I’m sure the club found them unwelcome. They were his personal comments to damage limitate what’s been a very bad move for him. I don’t blame him but I don’t respect him for it at all. It’s not a dignified way to leave your employment - slagging everyone off- he slated the executives publicly too basically again that they’d lied to him about the state of the squad/players etc and got him here under false pretences. Since relegation Andre’s motivations have been wholly personally driven imo. He doesn’t care about town or the players or Nagel. Doesn’t mean everything he’s saying was untrue but it means what he’s said must be heard within the context of his position. For me it means with a pinch of salt. Others may hold more stock in what he said and thats their right. |
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Post by richhtfc on May 14, 2024 14:36:26 GMT 1
Why are you so adamant that what he said was self serving? Do you disagree that the players often looked half-arsed and put in sub-par performances regularly? Even though he's gone now, AB's comments shed some light on problems within the squad. If the club decide to act on that this summer (by getting rid of the problematic personalities) then he'll be vindicated and he will have started the process of a cultural reset at Town. I think we can all agree that it is desperately needed. Very fair question. Happy to answer. I have rationale for all my opinions. Yes 100% agree some of the players put in half arsed performances at times but not necessarily the players Andre referred to. Sorba tried hard in most of his games, in fact I felt he tried harder and showed more fight and club loyalty than several others at times this season, despite being moved position often and it changing system role. I felt the comments were very predictable and unlike other fans I felt very confident he wouldn’t be staying on. If he wanted to help the club (who was paying him well) then he could have given a detailed report to Cartwright et al and they could have acted on it or passed the dossier straight on to the next manager. Why do it publicly? Unless you want the wider public to hear how bad the players were and how it wasn’t so much down to his performance. Those comments were not made to help the club rebuild as you say as that could’ve been achieved privately as would be standard. Those comments appeased our angry fans - fans that he was no longer representing - but they didn’t help the club and I’m sure the club found them unwelcome. They were his personal comments to damage limitate what’s been a very bad move for him. I don’t blame him but I don’t respect him for it at all. It’s not a dignified way to leave your employment - slagging everyone off- he slated the executives publicly too basically again that they’d lied to him about the state of the squad/players etc and got him here under false pretences. Since relegation Andre’s motivations have been wholly personally driven imo. He doesn’t care about town or the players or Nagel. Doesn’t mean everything he’s saying was untrue but it means what he’s said must be heard within the context of his position. For me it means with a pinch of salt. Others may hold more stock in what he said and thats their right. The thing I think that rankles with people supporting what AB has said is that it was his remit to manage the team to better performances. To do that he needs the players to agree with his methods and embrace whatever it is he tells them to do. It seems clear that from the beginning quite a lot of them decided they were not going to respect this manager or his methods. AB has called them out for unprofessional behaviour because not giving their all to get out of the mess is unprofessional. I’m not sure what part of that is self serving, he could’ve protected them and their reputations but they appear to have done everything possible to not help him with the role he’d been given. |
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Post by Towner47 on May 14, 2024 14:40:48 GMT 1
Just wish this thread either locked or sent to ex managers .I could give a monkey's about him .
He is history .
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Post by King Neil on May 14, 2024 15:49:45 GMT 1
Sheiten reiter
The biggest bad apple of the lot!
Take anything he has said with a pinch of salt
I'm sure duff will judge them himself...bad apples that would play for worthy and warnock 😉
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