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Post by mosher on Feb 15, 2024 15:30:41 GMT 1
From my minimal German I think his surname means 'Wide Rider' Or Big Sausage! That'd be Grosse Wurst. Or Grosse Pimmel Or Grosse Schwanz |
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Post by H6dds on Feb 15, 2024 15:31:03 GMT 1
Found this article from when he was appointed at Hoffenheim: adamfc5.substack.com/p/part-2-the-new-manager-check-inAndré Breitenreiter - TSG Hoffenheim
André Breitenreiter is a name which doesn’t carry a lot of weight in Germany, but it’s hard to understand why given his more than respectable CV. At SC Paderborn he was, and still is, a cult-figure, taking a provincial outfit who were prime candidates for second-tier relegation to the dizzying heights of the Bundesliga. An even greater legacy arguably follows him in the Swiss capital. There, Breitenreiter took over FC Zürich in 2021, and within a year brought the side from within one spot of the relegation zone to first place. It ended a 13-year wait for a league title, and a wild pitch invasion highlighted Breitenreiter’s transformative effect on the club’s fortunes. Even at the madhouse of Schalke 04 there are still strong reviews in his favour. After finishing a respectable 5th place in 2015/16, Breitenreiter surely had done enough to keep his job, but soon-to-be sporting director Christian Heidel had other ideas and promptly fired him over the phone a day before the season was due to end. Thus, really the only job one could call a failure would be at Hannover 96 between Spring 2017 and early 2019, but even there his ultimate downfall began with a tremendous start. Taking over the club in March 2017, Breitenreiter would go undefeated in the 9 remaining matches of the Zweite Liga season to comfortably return the “Rothemden” back to the Bundesliga. The following topflight season would even see Hannover stay up, but a lack of investment over the summer and a poor start to the campaign ultimately cost Breitenreiter his job in January. Tactical Outlook
With André Breitenreiter the Bundesliga has gained another manager who lives and breathes the motto quick & vertical. His latest spell in FC Zürich is perhaps the best example. Breitenreiter dominated the Swiss Super League with a 14-point gap to second place, but won the title with just 46.5% avg. possession. Rarely, if ever, have we seen a side dominate a division with such a reactive style. Every single champion in Europe’s top 5 leagues last season held at least 55% possession, whilst the only other side we can remember to accomplish a similar feat would have been Leicester City in 2014-15 - winning the Premier League with 43.7% avg. possession. Another important aspect which defines André Breitenreiter is his tactical fluidity. In Zürich Breitenreiter would largely stick to a 3-4-1-2, but previous jobs have regularly seen him fluctuate between 4 or 5 different setups. Schalke is a particularly interesting case-study. In the first half of the season Breitenreiter largely stuck to a 4–2-2-2 to get the most out of the creative talents of Julian Draxler, but following the German international’s January departure, Breitenreiter easily changed the system to a more balanced 4-2-3-1. Regardless of the personnel or tactical outlook, Breitenreiter’s quick, vertical, philosophy stands at the centre, and all the other pieces can easily slot in around it. Why it Will Fit
André Breitenreiter has a proven track record at clubs with a similar stature to TSG Hoffenheim, and his footballing identity fits the young and talented squad Alexander Rosen has formed. Furthermore, even with a key departure in the form of David Raum, Breitenreiter should be able to adapt given his history of forming a tactical setup that is not overly dependent on individual pieces to perform. Why it Won’t Fit
One of the biggest issues at Hoffenheim last season was their defence. Only 3 sides in the division conceded more often, and one needs to go all the way back to 2014 to find the last time Hoffenheim conceded more than 60 goals in a topflight campaign. Breitenreiter is by no means an issue in this respect, but he is also not a solution. At Schalke 04 Breitenreiter conceded the second most goals of any side which finished in the top half of the table, and in his final 58 league matches for Hannover 96 the “Rothemden” kept a clean sheet on just one occasion. |
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Post by CowshedJack on Feb 15, 2024 15:31:04 GMT 1
Not sure how I feel about this? His last job wasn’t great and his win percentages haven’t been great throughout his career. He won the league with Zurich in 2022, but did horrendous with Hoffenheim. Two promotions to the Bundesliga. A 5th place finish with Schalke and a league title in Switzerland. That's enough to get me excited regardless of 25 points from 22 games in his last job. We're not going to get a manager with a 100% success rate at every club he's been too. Just seems a bit too good to be true that he’s only got Huddersfield Town as an option? Surely that record would be snapped up by someone else? |
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Post by paulmat on Feb 15, 2024 15:31:51 GMT 1
Win % means fuck all going on our last appointment. Hoffenheim have gotten even worse since they sacked him. Someone more clued up on German football may know if they are in a crisis. It could either go Wagner or Siewart. Or the most highly rated coach in the Bundelisga, Fotheringham. Neither Wagner, Siewert or especially Fotheringham had anything like the experience that this guy has. No guarantees of course but this is much different than taking a punt on somebody who hasn't managed before or has only managed at a low level. |
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Post by CowshedJack on Feb 15, 2024 15:33:12 GMT 1
It could either go Wagner or Siewart. Or the most highly rated coach in the Bundelisga, Fotheringham. Neither Wagner, Siewert or especially Fotheringham had anything like the experience that this guy has. No guarantees of course but this is much different than taking a punt on somebody who hasn't managed before or has only managed at a low level. It’s a risk I think though! No experience of the Championshop, doesn’t have a good record with struggling teams. Albeit I don’t know much about him. |
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Post by Spike24 on Feb 15, 2024 15:33:15 GMT 1
Not another nice guy, was hoping he would be a massive C**t so he was nothing like the last incumbent |
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Post by The King's Head 1230 on Feb 15, 2024 15:34:09 GMT 1
That'd be Grosse Wurst. Or Grosse Pimmel Or Grosse Schwanz Thanks Mosh the sausage connoisseur. |
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Post by golcarexile on Feb 15, 2024 15:34:42 GMT 1
That'd be Grosse Wurst. Or Grosse Pimmel Or Grosse Schwanz Pimmel! Haha. Haven't heard that in a long time. I remember going to Cologne as a teenager and using that word to try to proposition the local girls. They were not impressed. Would probably get me locked up these days! |
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Post by paulmat on Feb 15, 2024 15:37:07 GMT 1
Neither Wagner, Siewert or especially Fotheringham had anything like the experience that this guy has. No guarantees of course but this is much different than taking a punt on somebody who hasn't managed before or has only managed at a low level. It’s a risk I think though! No experience of the Championshop, doesn’t have a good record with struggling teams. Albeit I don’t know much about him. Absolutely a risk for sure (aside from Warnock I'm not sure who wouldn't be a risk). But I'd say an exciting risk..... |
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Post by H6dds on Feb 15, 2024 15:37:23 GMT 1
Not gonna quote my own post but my opinion on that article is that whoever scouted and made this happen (if it does happen) needs some praise. Looks a perfect apppointment for us on paper.
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Post by CowshedJack on Feb 15, 2024 15:38:07 GMT 1
It’s a risk I think though! No experience of the Championshop, doesn’t have a good record with struggling teams. Albeit I don’t know much about him. Absolutely a risk for sure (aside from Warnock I'm not sure who wouldn't be a risk). But I'd say an exciting risk..... If he does have such a good record, is it a bit pessimistic to say why is he coming to Huddersfield? Surely he’d be on the radars of bigger clubs? |
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Post by mosher on Feb 15, 2024 15:39:57 GMT 1
That'd be Grosse Wurst. Or Grosse Pimmel Or Grosse Schwanz Pimmel! Haha. Haven't heard that in a long time. I remember going to Cologne as a teenager and using that word to try to proposition the local girls. They were not impressed. Would probably get me locked up these days! We used to say shit like "Ich habe ein grosse breit pimmel und die ausdauer eines Marathonläufers" They used to love it as a laugh which helped get them on a date  |
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Post by isitjustme on Feb 15, 2024 15:40:43 GMT 1
Hello  it’s time to play.. We’re with breitenreiter breitenreiter.. Hello gonna win today cos of breitenreiter breitenreiter.. Breitenreiter breitenreiter.. Cmon jello do your worst……. 🥴🥴 [sigh] You wouldn't listen to reason, would you... Fuck. Me. Rigid. Can't help wondering......What % of your 2100 posts is FMR !!!  |
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Post by Captainslapper on Feb 15, 2024 15:41:23 GMT 1
Found this article from when he was appointed at Hoffenheim: adamfc5.substack.com/p/part-2-the-new-manager-check-inAndré Breitenreiter - TSG Hoffenheim
André Breitenreiter is a name which doesn’t carry a lot of weight in Germany, but it’s hard to understand why given his more than respectable CV. At SC Paderborn he was, and still is, a cult-figure, taking a provincial outfit who were prime candidates for second-tier relegation to the dizzying heights of the Bundesliga. An even greater legacy arguably follows him in the Swiss capital. There, Breitenreiter took over FC Zürich in 2021, and within a year brought the side from within one spot of the relegation zone to first place. It ended a 13-year wait for a league title, and a wild pitch invasion highlighted Breitenreiter’s transformative effect on the club’s fortunes. Even at the madhouse of Schalke 04 there are still strong reviews in his favour. After finishing a respectable 5th place in 2015/16, Breitenreiter surely had done enough to keep his job, but soon-to-be sporting director Christian Heidel had other ideas and promptly fired him over the phone a day before the season was due to end. Thus, really the only job one could call a failure would be at Hannover 96 between Spring 2017 and early 2019, but even there his ultimate downfall began with a tremendous start. Taking over the club in March 2017, Breitenreiter would go undefeated in the 9 remaining matches of the Zweite Liga season to comfortably return the “Rothemden” back to the Bundesliga. The following topflight season would even see Hannover stay up, but a lack of investment over the summer and a poor start to the campaign ultimately cost Breitenreiter his job in January. Tactical Outlook
With André Breitenreiter the Bundesliga has gained another manager who lives and breathes the motto quick & vertical. His latest spell in FC Zürich is perhaps the best example. Breitenreiter dominated the Swiss Super League with a 14-point gap to second place, but won the title with just 46.5% avg. possession. Rarely, if ever, have we seen a side dominate a division with such a reactive style. Every single champion in Europe’s top 5 leagues last season held at least 55% possession, whilst the only other side we can remember to accomplish a similar feat would have been Leicester City in 2014-15 - winning the Premier League with 43.7% avg. possession. Another important aspect which defines André Breitenreiter is his tactical fluidity. In Zürich Breitenreiter would largely stick to a 3-4-1-2, but previous jobs have regularly seen him fluctuate between 4 or 5 different setups. Schalke is a particularly interesting case-study. In the first half of the season Breitenreiter largely stuck to a 4–2-2-2 to get the most out of the creative talents of Julian Draxler, but following the German international’s January departure, Breitenreiter easily changed the system to a more balanced 4-2-3-1. Regardless of the personnel or tactical outlook, Breitenreiter’s quick, vertical, philosophy stands at the centre, and all the other pieces can easily slot in around it. Why it Will Fit
André Breitenreiter has a proven track record at clubs with a similar stature to TSG Hoffenheim, and his footballing identity fits the young and talented squad Alexander Rosen has formed. Furthermore, even with a key departure in the form of David Raum, Breitenreiter should be able to adapt given his history of forming a tactical setup that is not overly dependent on individual pieces to perform. Why it Won’t Fit
One of the biggest issues at Hoffenheim last season was their defence. Only 3 sides in the division conceded more often, and one needs to go all the way back to 2014 to find the last time Hoffenheim conceded more than 60 goals in a topflight campaign. Breitenreiter is by no means an issue in this respect, but he is also not a solution. At Schalke 04 Breitenreiter conceded the second most goals of any side which finished in the top half of the table, and in his final 58 league matches for Hannover 96 the “Rothemden” kept a clean sheet on just one occasion. Sounds a lot more Worthington than Moore, which will please everyone. |
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Post by dalesterrier on Feb 15, 2024 15:42:30 GMT 1
Absolutely a risk for sure (aside from Warnock I'm not sure who wouldn't be a risk). But I'd say an exciting risk..... If he does have such a good record, is it a bit pessimistic to say why is he coming to Huddersfield? Surely he’d be on the radars of bigger clubs? Linked with Hamburg over the last few days plus also recently linked to besitkas and Kosovo national team |
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Post by Captainslapper on Feb 15, 2024 15:42:42 GMT 1
Absolutely a risk for sure (aside from Warnock I'm not sure who wouldn't be a risk). But I'd say an exciting risk..... If he does have such a good record, is it a bit pessimistic to say why is he coming to Huddersfield? Surely he’d be on the radars of bigger clubs? The championships a big deal. Isnt it the 5th best attended division in the world now? And of course youre only one step away from the best division in the world. |
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Post by H6dds on Feb 15, 2024 15:43:15 GMT 1
Absolutely a risk for sure (aside from Warnock I'm not sure who wouldn't be a risk). But I'd say an exciting risk..... If he does have such a good record, is it a bit pessimistic to say why is he coming to Huddersfield? Surely he’d be on the radars of bigger clubs? If he wants to manage in the PL, signing for a club with an owner who wants to get promoted in the Championship is probably his best way of getting there? So if Nagle has sold him this idea then surely it's an ambitious appointment for both him and us. He do have a track record of getting average teams promoted from the second tier, and generally teams struggling and take them higher up in the table. Edit: Also, our squad seems to fit his vision (on paper) so maybe that is a bonus as well |
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Post by golcarexile on Feb 15, 2024 15:44:24 GMT 1
Pimmel! Haha. Haven't heard that in a long time. I remember going to Cologne as a teenager and using that word to try to proposition the local girls. They were not impressed. Would probably get me locked up these days! We used to say shit like "Ich habe ein grosse breit pimmel und die ausdauer eines Marathonläufers" They used to love it as a laugh which helped get them on a date Since most of the German we learned at school was based around talking about your hobbies and various shopping scenarios, the best I could manage was "Ich spiele mit mein pimmel in der backerei". I did not get many dates. |
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Post by paulmat on Feb 15, 2024 15:45:24 GMT 1
Absolutely a risk for sure (aside from Warnock I'm not sure who wouldn't be a risk). But I'd say an exciting risk..... If he does have such a good record, is it a bit pessimistic to say why is he coming to Huddersfield? Surely he’d be on the radars of bigger clubs? Surely you could use that as a reason to be concerned about any appointment we make though? Obvious to say but we aren't going to appoint anybody who isn't prepared to come to Huddersfield. It sounds like other clubs might have been sniffing around. Maybe he fancied the challenge of managing in England. Maybe he's familiar with Huddersfield from the Wagner period. |
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Post by King Neil on Feb 15, 2024 15:45:29 GMT 1
Bonnie Tyler
"Turn around Breitenreiter"
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Post by kennyk2 on Feb 15, 2024 15:47:11 GMT 1
When can we have the "Breitenreiter out" poll?
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Post by rothwellterrier on Feb 15, 2024 15:50:12 GMT 1
When can we have the "Breitenreiter out" poll? Whenever runner76 logs on. The “poll pot” of datm (they dictate the poll usage)  |
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Feb 15, 2024 15:52:47 GMT 1
Can we call him breyton reyter to make it more Yorkshire! Bretton Rider? That's got the wrong ring to it, more up Fulham's alley I'd say... |
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Post by Captainslapper on Feb 15, 2024 15:53:51 GMT 1
I hope they put a beach towel on his seat before he comes in to do the press conference.
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Post by workshyfop on Feb 15, 2024 15:56:00 GMT 1
His name would scan well with “Eton Rifles”, probably.
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Post by mosher on Feb 15, 2024 15:57:12 GMT 1
We used to say shit like "Ich habe ein grosse breit pimmel und die ausdauer eines Marathonläufers" They used to love it as a laugh which helped get them on a date Since most of the German we learned at school was based around talking about your hobbies and various shopping scenarios, the best I could manage was "Ich spiele mit mein pimmel in der backerei". I did not get many dates. My German teacher gave me a predicted grade of U in my GCSE because I always messed about in class and shouted inappropriate phrases; rather than "Ich Wohne In Soltau" I'd say something like "Ich Wohne In Eine Sheisshaus", he hated me. Proper pissed him off when I got 98% in the spoken part and a B grade overall. He didn't know I had a German girlfriend |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Feb 15, 2024 15:57:40 GMT 1
I hope they put a beach towel on his seat before he comes in to do the press conference. You’ll be symbolically burning your ST won’t you Slapps? Fecking European bloke, coming over here and nicking our jobs… 😉 |
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Feb 15, 2024 15:58:39 GMT 1
So whats his football like? I quickly found one article from his time in Zurich saying low possession counter-attacking style. "The core offensive concept of Breitenreiter's tactics is that possession is unnecessary if it is not building to something." I like that approach. The footballing equivalent of "sh!t, or get off the pot" 🤣 |
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Post by mosher on Feb 15, 2024 15:59:38 GMT 1
I hope they put a beach towel on his seat before he comes in to do the press conference. Is that so we know it's not Phil Parkinson? |
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Post by Captainslapper on Feb 15, 2024 16:00:37 GMT 1
I hope they put a beach towel on his seat before he comes in to do the press conference. You’ll be symbolically burning your ST won’t you Slapps? Fecking European bloke, coming over here and nicking our jobs… 😉 I would if brexit hadnt stopped him doing that. |
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