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Post by htafcokay on Apr 11, 2024 11:40:06 GMT 1
The ownership have seen the full Warnock effect up close. He is a miracle worker at this level, it doesn’t make any sense how he does it and how no one else can consistently, but the proof is there. NW keeping us up was an incredible achievement but a bit of a double edge sword in that it gave a false picture of mean squad quality. I can see why the ownership thought we’d be reasonably safe to change NW when they did unfortunately it’s really laid bare how far off quality wise the squad is at this level. I don’t think NW helped with his “top half squad” comments on leaving either, he knew as well as the rest of us that wasn’t true and we were likely to be in another relegation battle without serious player additions. I can't. The thing is we have very well paid staff in place to see past the false situation created by the football leagues best ever manager. We have other staff about the place who know football, there was Baldwin also. You could even ask any football fan of a Championship side what they thought about the idea of keeping the same squad that was basically relegated pre Warnock and changing it's manager and they would say don't be silly. I could present my wife with the facts and she'd draw the same conclusion, she knows next to nothing about football. Just shows very poor judgement and possibly a decision motivated by ego and personality clash. On that note if anyone thought it was going to be easy to manage Warnock they were deluded. If they believed the top half squad bollocks then more fool them, certainly with him in charge it could have been, in the same press conference didn't he say Ruffles was the best LB in the champ! FFS that statement alone tells you all you need to know about the validity of what he was saying and why he was saying it. Some of the fans tried to warn them, but the club and Nagle thought they knew best. |
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Post by irverino on Apr 11, 2024 11:42:04 GMT 1
In Spain for a break during March & the most asked question from other fans (not just Championship) was 'Why on earth did they get rid of Warnock'?......A question asked many more times over the summer if relegated.
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 11, 2024 13:25:31 GMT 1
Some of the fans tried to warn them, but the club and Nagle thought they knew best. I've tried to hold off commenting today because I got very little work done yesterday but, if it's not obvious to those wearing NW branded rose tinted bi-focals, after Norwich-gate and NW's public criticism of the new owner's transfer policy was the straw that broke the camels back and he was told to foxtrot oscar. There are other alluded to goings on of which I'm not privy to but have been mentioned on here previously by others i.e. lack of his time on the training ground, potential transfers missed because the players didn't want to work with him as a manager, contract extensions to players who've hardly kicked a ball in anger since and possible conflicts of interest in those contract negotiations therein. There may be other factors at play but that seems to be a convincing case for dismissal to me. m.allfootballapp.com/news/EPL/FA-probe-Neil-Warnock-and-son-James-over-transfer-dealings-at-Cardiff/1132298Don't get me wrong I'm thankful for what NW did and maybe he should have gone in the summer but KN obviously thought he was worth persuading to stay on but for the reason above probably felt that it was time to move him on and, after only 7 games, would give any new manager plenty of time to settle into the season . With the benefit of hindsight the appointment of DM was misjudged but I don't believe it was planned and was more likely forced on them by the actions of a man that some people on here will happily eat from his arse till the day he dies. What are you wittering on about? I never mentioned Warnock. The fans tried to warn the club and Nagle that the squad wasn't good enough, and they didn't listen, they knew best, Nagle himself said that the squad was good enough and we wouldn't sign players "just for the sake of it". As I said, I never mentioned Warnock. |
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Post by Uddersfeeled on Apr 11, 2024 13:28:02 GMT 1
Apologies, I'll put it like this then.
I've tried to hold off commenting today because I got very little work done yesterday but, if it's not obvious to those wearing NW branded rose tinted bi-focals, after Norwich-gate and NW's public criticism of the new owner's transfer policy was the straw that broke the camels back and he was told to foxtrot oscar. There are other alluded to goings on of which I'm not privy to but have been mentioned on here previously by others i.e. lack of his time on the training ground, potential transfers missed because the players didn't want to work with him as a manager, contract extensions to players who've hardly kicked a ball in anger since and possible conflicts of interest in those contract negotiations therein. There may be other factors at play but that seems to be a convincing case for dismissal to me.
m.allfootballapp.com/news/EPL/FA-probe-Neil-Warnock-and-son-James-over-transfer-dealings-at-Cardiff/1132298
Don't get me wrong I'm thankful for what NW did and maybe he should have gone in the summer but KN obviously thought he was worth persuading to stay on but for the reason above probably felt that it was time to move him on and, after only 7 games, would give any new manager plenty of time to settle into the season. With the benefit of hindsight the appointment of DM was misjudged but I don't believe it was planned and was more likely forced on them by the actions of a man that some people on here would happily eat from his arse till the day he dies.
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Post by royrace on Apr 11, 2024 14:17:04 GMT 1
Apologies, I'll put it like this then. I've tried to hold off commenting today because I got very little work done yesterday but, if it's not obvious to those wearing NW branded rose tinted bi-focals, after Norwich-gate and NW's public criticism of the new owner's transfer policy was the straw that broke the camels back and he was told to foxtrot oscar. There are other alluded to goings on of which I'm not privy to but have been mentioned on here previously by others i.e. lack of his time on the training ground, potential transfers missed because the players didn't want to work with him as a manager, contract extensions to players who've hardly kicked a ball in anger since and possible conflicts of interest in those contract negotiations therein. There may be other factors at play but that seems to be a convincing case for dismissal to me. m.allfootballapp.com/news/EPL/FA-probe-Neil-Warnock-and-son-James-over-transfer-dealings-at-Cardiff/1132298 Don't get me wrong I'm thankful for what NW did and maybe he should have gone in the summer but KN obviously thought he was worth persuading to stay on but for the reason above probably felt that it was time to move him on and, after only 7 games, would give any new manager plenty of time to settle into the season. With the benefit of hindsight the appointment of DM was misjudged but I don't believe it was planned and was more likely forced on them by the actions of a man that some people on here would happily eat from his arse till the day he dies. The alluded to things you mention came from where? Leaks from the club? Not objective in other words. Regardless of what went on or didn't go on, and I find some of the accusations clearly nonsense, you don't cut off your nose to spite your face. That's what they did and it was a schoolboy error of judgement. |
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Post by htfcterry on Apr 11, 2024 14:36:55 GMT 1
Apologies, I'll put it like this then. I've tried to hold off commenting today because I got very little work done yesterday but, if it's not obvious to those wearing NW branded rose tinted bi-focals, after Norwich-gate and NW's public criticism of the new owner's transfer policy was the straw that broke the camels back and he was told to foxtrot oscar. There are other alluded to goings on of which I'm not privy to but have been mentioned on here previously by others i.e. lack of his time on the training ground, potential transfers missed because the players didn't want to work with him as a manager, contract extensions to players who've hardly kicked a ball in anger since and possible conflicts of interest in those contract negotiations therein. There may be other factors at play but that seems to be a convincing case for dismissal to me. m.allfootballapp.com/news/EPL/FA-probe-Neil-Warnock-and-son-James-over-transfer-dealings-at-Cardiff/1132298 Don't get me wrong I'm thankful for what NW did and maybe he should have gone in the summer but KN obviously thought he was worth persuading to stay on but for the reason above probably felt that it was time to move him on and, after only 7 games, would give any new manager plenty of time to settle into the season. With the benefit of hindsight the appointment of DM was misjudged but I don't believe it was planned and was more likely forced on them by the actions of a man that some people on here would happily eat from his arse till the day he dies. That link is about his time at Cardiff. I am still yet to see any evidence of that been repeated at Huddersfield. Alot of claims but no proof. |
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on Apr 11, 2024 15:04:37 GMT 1
Like the rest of us, you must now be shitting your pants. We looked dead certain for the drop last night, and yet tonight were some even worse results than ours. There’s no worse cliffhangers in football than the annual English relegation stakes. Hopefully Kevin might now appreciate our anxieties and comments. We don’t wish him anything negative nor complaining, we just hope he’s fully awake to the vitality of staying in Division 2. Enjoy the rollercoaster ride, there’s nothing like it anywhere else in football !! With all the amount of respect that is possible in the world because this is text and I don’t want this to sound ANYTHING but respectful- The idea that Kevin doesn’t understand the looming threat of relegation always blows me away. Not only is it an unconscionable hit to morale, it’s also a financial body blow if there ever was one. And he’d be the first to say things have been far from perfect, but some of this was inherited as well. Plenty of blame to go around, but blame is completely useless (except when evaluating and making changes). Does he understand? You bet your (insert body part) be more than understands. He’s balls deep in the whole process. It literally keeps him up at night. I start my day at 3:30 am and could show you my call sheet where he can’t sleep and we talk about it and other things. Normally I’d keep all that close to the vest but with all the things to properly worry about (and there’s a ton), whether or not the Chairman has (and has always had) a firm grasp on what relegation means is NOT one of them. I really hope that came off how it sounds in my head. I just want you to be reassured about that specific point. I didn't claim he doesn't understand it, I said I hope he's fully awake to the full implications of it. Your response helps to allay my worries, thanks for taking the time to respond.
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on Apr 11, 2024 15:11:51 GMT 1
With all the amount of respect that is possible in the world because this is text and I don’t want this to sound ANYTHING but respectful- The idea that Kevin doesn’t understand the looming threat of relegation always blows me away. Not only is it an unconscionable hit to morale, it’s also a financial body blow if there ever was one. And he’d be the first to say things have been far from perfect, but some of this was inherited as well. Plenty of blame to go around, but blame is completely useless (except when evaluating and making changes). Does he understand? You bet your (insert body part) be more than understands. He’s balls deep in the whole process. It literally keeps him up at night. I start my day at 3:30 am and could show you my call sheet where he can’t sleep and we talk about it and other things. Normally I’d keep all that close to the vest but with all the things to properly worry about (and there’s a ton), whether or not the Chairman has (and has always had) a firm grasp on what relegation means is NOT one of them. I really hope that came off how it sounds in my head. I just want you to be reassured about that specific point. . Those calling him out are venting but in the cold light of day he is solely not to blame. What has happened this season has happened probably 8 or 9 times out of the last 12. That isn't just coincidence, it's because we have persisted in buying potential players in the hope that they come good. Look around the division, your Prestons and Hulls are not completely made up of lower league signings like we are. He inherited a shit show and its still a shit show. The turnaround this club needs is massive but for a million and one reasons it can't just happen overnight. The summer transfer window was poor, that could be down to a variety of reasons but even so we were never going to be able to turn such a poor quality squad around in one window. For me the blame lay solely at the players door. That performance last night was disgusting. For the chairman, the fans and the club. Not sure if that's intended to be aimed at me or not, but my point was that given he's new to English football he might not yet understand all of the impacts of relegation. He has, unfortunately, been naive on other matters this season, so it's not far-fetched to think he's still got more learning to do.
Of course he's going to be gutted, that goes without saying.
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Post by castlehillterrier on Apr 11, 2024 15:42:54 GMT 1
I've tried to hold off commenting today because I got very little work done yesterday but, if it's not obvious to those wearing NW branded rose tinted bi-focals, after Norwich-gate and NW's public criticism of the new owner's transfer policy was the straw that broke the camels back and he was told to foxtrot oscar. There are other alluded to goings on of which I'm not privy to but have been mentioned on here previously by others i.e. lack of his time on the training ground, potential transfers missed because the players didn't want to work with him as a manager, contract extensions to players who've hardly kicked a ball in anger since and possible conflicts of interest in those contract negotiations therein. There may be other factors at play but that seems to be a convincing case for dismissal to me. m.allfootballapp.com/news/EPL/FA-probe-Neil-Warnock-and-son-James-over-transfer-dealings-at-Cardiff/1132298Don't get me wrong I'm thankful for what NW did and maybe he should have gone in the summer but KN obviously thought he was worth persuading to stay on but for the reason above probably felt that it was time to move him on and, after only 7 games, would give any new manager plenty of time to settle into the season . With the benefit of hindsight the appointment of DM was misjudged but I don't believe it was planned and was more likely forced on them by the actions of a man that some people on here will happily eat from his arse till the day he dies. What are you wittering on about? I never mentioned Warnock. The fans tried to warn the club and Nagle that the squad wasn't good enough, and they didn't listen, they knew best, Nagle himself said that the squad was good enough and we wouldn't sign players "just for the sake of it". As I said, I never mentioned Warnock. We tried to sign players in the summer, some rejected by NW and his team, some (many) clubs and players rejected HTAFC the majority due to the management team in place at the time a few also because we wouldnt pay the wages to old players wanting contracts bigger than anyone currently at the club. Mr Nagle may have just said the squad was good enough because at the time he was trusting NW and his team and this is what they told him they were the experts employed to run the football side of the club after all. In my opionion the squad is good enough to survive in the championship, we could not have predicted however the number of injuries and the distinct lack of fitness in the squad, if we had not had the crazy number of injuries then we might already be safe, hey we are still not in the bottom 3 so we might be safe anyway despite many many things stacked against us this season. |
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Post by Uddersfeeled on Apr 11, 2024 15:46:42 GMT 1
Apologies, I'll put it like this then. I've tried to hold off commenting today because I got very little work done yesterday but, if it's not obvious to those wearing NW branded rose tinted bi-focals, after Norwich-gate and NW's public criticism of the new owner's transfer policy was the straw that broke the camels back and he was told to foxtrot oscar. There are other alluded to goings on of which I'm not privy to but have been mentioned on here previously by others i.e. lack of his time on the training ground, potential transfers missed because the players didn't want to work with him as a manager, contract extensions to players who've hardly kicked a ball in anger since and possible conflicts of interest in those contract negotiations therein. There may be other factors at play but that seems to be a convincing case for dismissal to me. m.allfootballapp.com/news/EPL/FA-probe-Neil-Warnock-and-son-James-over-transfer-dealings-at-Cardiff/1132298 Don't get me wrong I'm thankful for what NW did and maybe he should have gone in the summer but KN obviously thought he was worth persuading to stay on but for the reason above probably felt that it was time to move him on and, after only 7 games, would give any new manager plenty of time to settle into the season. With the benefit of hindsight the appointment of DM was misjudged but I don't believe it was planned and was more likely forced on them by the actions of a man that some people on here would happily eat from his arse till the day he dies. That link is about his time at Cardiff. I am still yet to see any evidence of that been repeated at Huddersfield. Alot of claims but no proof. Yes, I realise it relates to Cardiff and there are several town players represented by the agency referred to in that article as well. www.transfermarkt.co.uk/huddersfield-town/berateruebersicht/verein/1110 |
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Post by castlehillterrier on Apr 11, 2024 15:56:57 GMT 1
That link is about his time at Cardiff. I am still yet to see any evidence of that been repeated at Huddersfield. Alot of claims but no proof. Yes, I realise it relates to Cardiff and there are several town players represented by the agency referred to in that article as well. A conflict of interests is never a good thing and should always be avoided, many players we were linked with / offered in the summer had the same agency representing them, now maybe its just because Neil knew these players better I dont know. |
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 11, 2024 16:02:19 GMT 1
What are you wittering on about? I never mentioned Warnock. The fans tried to warn the club and Nagle that the squad wasn't good enough, and they didn't listen, they knew best, Nagle himself said that the squad was good enough and we wouldn't sign players "just for the sake of it". As I said, I never mentioned Warnock. We tried to sign players in the summer, some rejected by NW and his team, some (many) clubs and players rejected HTAFC the majority due to the management team in place at the time a few also because we wouldnt pay the wages to old players wanting contracts bigger than anyone currently at the club. Mr Nagle may have just said the squad was good enough because at the time he was trusting NW and his team and this is what they told him they were the experts employed to run the football side of the club after all. In my opionion the squad is good enough to survive in the championship, we could not have predicted however the number of injuries and the distinct lack of fitness in the squad, if we had not had the crazy number of injuries then we might already be safe, hey we are still not in the bottom 3 so we might be safe anyway despite many many things stacked against us this season. Blah blah blah. |
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Post by royrace on Apr 11, 2024 16:03:18 GMT 1
Yes, I realise it relates to Cardiff and there are several town players represented by the agency referred to in that article as well. A conflict of interests is never a good thing and should always be avoided, many players we were linked with / offered in the summer had the same agency representing them, now maybe its just because Neil knew these players better I dont know. You'll get that in any industry. Cartwright hasn't exactly been shy with appointing people he has previous links to and it's how he got the job himself! Look at Warnock and his other sons, as well as Danny Ward there are loads. Paddy Kenny probably his absolute favourite although rocket Ron might be in with a shout! |
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Post by Uddersfeeled on Apr 11, 2024 16:11:30 GMT 1
A conflict of interests is never a good thing and should always be avoided, many players we were linked with / offered in the summer had the same agency representing them, now maybe its just because Neil knew these players better I dont know. You'll get that in any industry. Cartwright hasn't exactly been shy with appointing people he has previous links to and it's how he got the job himself! Look at Warnock and his other sons, as well as Danny Ward there are loads. Paddy Kenny probably his absolute favourite although rocket Ron might be in with a shout! Yet in my industry you have to declare any conflict of interest you might have to avoid any accusation of financial impropriety and ingratiating favour or bias. Football is rife with people pissing in each others pockets and nepotism. A murky world, corrupted by money. |
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Post by jqhtfc on Apr 11, 2024 16:25:46 GMT 1
The ownership have seen the full Warnock effect up close. He is a miracle worker at this level, it doesn’t make any sense how he does it and how no one else can consistently, but the proof is there. NW keeping us up was an incredible achievement but a bit of a double edge sword in that it gave a false picture of mean squad quality. I can see why the ownership thought we’d be reasonably safe to change NW when they did unfortunately it’s really laid bare how far off quality wise the squad is at this level. I don’t think NW helped with his “top half squad” comments on leaving either, he knew as well as the rest of us that wasn’t true and we were likely to be in another relegation battle without serious player additions. We're "only" 10 points off being in midtable. With NW in charge for the season I think it's reasonable to suggest we'd be sitting alongside Sunderland and Watford even with this current squad. Unfortunately our managers since NW have been worse than useless. Warnock didn’t get sod all out of them either this season in his 8 games charge, in fact it’s pretty much the same as AB the squads just shite. Warnock is just very good at doing what he last season coming in a galvanising a squad late on. |
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 11, 2024 16:28:05 GMT 1
We're "only" 10 points off being in midtable. With NW in charge for the season I think it's reasonable to suggest we'd be sitting alongside Sunderland and Watford even with this current squad. Unfortunately our managers since NW have been worse than useless. Warnock didn’t get sod all out of them either this season in his 8 games charge, in fact it’s pretty much the same as AB the squads just shite. Warnock is just very good at doing what he last season coming in a galvanising a squad late on. He won two and drew two out of seven league games. That included a win against a world-class manager. |
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Post by jqhtfc on Apr 11, 2024 16:29:56 GMT 1
Warnock didn’t get sod all out of them either this season in his 8 games charge, in fact it’s pretty much the same as AB the squads just shite. Warnock is just very good at doing what he last season coming in a galvanising a squad late on. He won two and drew two out of seven league games. That included a win against a world-class manager. Pretty much similar to AB in 8, my point being nobody this season has been able to get much out this side |
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Post by Uddersfeeled on Apr 11, 2024 17:09:22 GMT 1
The fans tried to warn the club and Nagle that the squad wasn't good enough, and they didn't listen, they knew best, Nagle himself said that the squad was good enough and we wouldn't sign players "just for the sake of it".We tried to sign players in the summer, some rejected by NW and his team, some (many) clubs and players rejected HTAFC the majority due to the management team in place at the time a few also because we wouldnt pay the wages to old players wanting contracts bigger than anyone currently at the club. Mr Nagle may have just said the squad was good enough because at the time he was trusting NW and his team and this is what they told him they were the experts employed to run the football side of the club after all. In my opionion the squad is good enough to survive in the championship, we could not have predicted however the number of injuries and the distinct lack of fitness in the squad, if we had not had the crazy number of injuries then we might already be safe, hey we are still not in the bottom 3 so we might be safe anyway despite many many things stacked against us this season. Blah blah blah. Makes some interesting points for me. By the way, if the squad wasn't good enough why didn't you warn KN about Ruffels? Not highly rated by yourself and many others according to this thread yet he penned a new 2 yr contract in the summer. downatthemac.proboards.com/post/3195330/thread |
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 11, 2024 17:20:54 GMT 1
Makes some interesting points for me. By the way, if the squad wasn't good enough why didn't you warn KN about Ruffels? Not highly rated by yourself and many others according to this thread yet he penned a new 2 yr contract in the summer.[br downatthemac.proboards.com/post/3195330/threadI said numerous times at the time that I wouldn't have given Ward, Koroma or Ruffels a new contract. I was in a minority. |
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Post by htfcterry on Apr 11, 2024 17:21:34 GMT 1
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Post by Uddersfeeled on Apr 11, 2024 17:30:25 GMT 1
It still relates to cardiff. Yes it does but makes for interesting reading. Would you care to share what 'claims' you've heard? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2024 17:47:06 GMT 1
Last time we got relegated out of this division i was literally on the floor the way it happened. (A last minute handball goal scored at an another ground coupled with our defeat to Birmingham Dave)Leaving the ground thinking we’d have to watch poor teams come visit for the next 12 months. What we didn’t realise at the time and probably explains over the top reactions every time we currently lose a game is it wasn’t 12 months, it was actually 12 years of absolute shite viewing. But it wasn’t shite viewing. We were watching our team claw their way back up the divisions. It took a while but there were some real high points. The penalty shoot out in Cardiff, Rob Edwards goal against Lincoln, watching Peter Jackson wear his heart on his sleeve as he got us fighting again. So many great memories. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2024 17:49:58 GMT 1
Justasmithers inspires me. He's positive and loves Town. I truly believe good times are ahead. You can't beat end of season excitement whether it be getting in the play-offs or surviving relegation. Every game now is massive. It's stressful but I love it Birch twigs are in the post 😉 |
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 11, 2024 17:50:59 GMT 1
Last time we got relegated out of this division i was literally on the floor the way it happened. (A last minute handball goal scored at an another ground coupled with our defeat to Birmingham Dave)Leaving the ground thinking we’d have to watch poor teams come visit for the next 12 months. What we didn’t realise at the time and probably explains over the top reactions every time we currently lose a game is it wasn’t 12 months, it was actually 12 years of absolute shite viewing. But it wasn’t shite viewing. We were watching our team claw their way back up the divisions. It took a while but there were some real high points. The penalty shoot out in Cardiff, Rob Edwards goal against Lincoln, watching Peter Jackson wear his heart on his sleeve as he got us fighting again. So many great memories. Some of those 12 years were pretty shit. |
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Post by drumriggend on Apr 11, 2024 17:58:27 GMT 1
Least you were able to laugh at Leeds fans on twitter Dave, we might play them again in 5 years. I still cringe at the announcers dig at the end of the Leeds game..” see you again next season.” Somehow I don’t think we will. So tinpot that,time he hung his mic up. And took the players with him. Absolute bollox bro.. It’s banter.. I loved it.. Never ever ever miss an opportunity to take the piss out of the dirty beeston chestwankers.. 🍻🍻 |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2024 18:14:22 GMT 1
But it wasn’t shite viewing. We were watching our team claw their way back up the divisions. It took a while but there were some real high points. The penalty shoot out in Cardiff, Rob Edwards goal against Lincoln, watching Peter Jackson wear his heart on his sleeve as he got us fighting again. So many great memories. Some of those 12 years were pretty shit. Some of any 12 years as a football fan are going to be shit, unless you support a ‘big’ club. Ask Ipswich fans, or Bradford fans or all the other fans of teams who have been relegated. |
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Post by boooothy on Apr 11, 2024 18:19:53 GMT 1
Last time we got relegated out of this division i was literally on the floor the way it happened. (A last minute handball goal scored at an another ground coupled with our defeat to Birmingham Dave)Leaving the ground thinking we’d have to watch poor teams come visit for the next 12 months. What we didn’t realise at the time and probably explains over the top reactions every time we currently lose a game is it wasn’t 12 months, it was actually 12 years of absolute shite viewing. But it wasn’t shite viewing. We were watching our team claw their way back up the divisions. It took a while but there were some real high points. The penalty shoot out in Cardiff, Rob Edwards goal against Lincoln, watching Peter Jackson wear his heart on his sleeve as he got us fighting again. So many great memories. I see what you are saying but i think the mind plays tricks. I also remember driving back on my own midweek from some terrible grounds wondering what the hell i was doing. We all remember John Mackilesky however you spell it scoring 2 goals but forget he was actually rubbish. As were most of the players we were watching. I don’t want to go back there. |
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Post by Tim Nice But Dim on Apr 11, 2024 18:42:29 GMT 1
If you think yesterday was bad, just wait for the Birmingham game Tally Ho, Birmingham are a set of Ruffians and i wouldn't be surprised if there is a few punch ups. |
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Post by htfcterry on Apr 11, 2024 18:52:59 GMT 1
It still relates to cardiff. Yes it does but makes for interesting reading. Would you care to share what 'claims' you've heard? All you need to do is check the Warnock threads on here. |
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Post by Ibiza Town on Apr 11, 2024 18:59:46 GMT 1
The ownership have seen the full Warnock effect up close. He is a miracle worker at this level, it doesn’t make any sense how he does it and how no one else can consistently, but the proof is there. NW keeping us up was an incredible achievement but a bit of a double edge sword in that it gave a false picture of mean squad quality. I can see why the ownership thought we’d be reasonably safe to change NW when they did unfortunately it’s really laid bare how far off quality wise the squad is at this level. I don’t think NW helped with his “top half squad” comments on leaving either, he knew as well as the rest of us that wasn’t true and we were likely to be in another relegation battle without serious player additions. I don't think many on here had a false picture about our squad We all knew it was more than weak Unfortunately the people making the decisions didn't agree |
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