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Post by townarentbest on Apr 15, 2024 16:47:17 GMT 1
I’d almost forgotten we used to play regularly with recognised strikers. What's one of those? They're the players that usually take penalties. Oh. 😅😂 |
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Post by willo on Apr 15, 2024 16:48:22 GMT 1
Yeah, that is definitely the most stonewall penalty I’ve ever seen not given. Had to look it up and I still can’t believe someone can see that and not call foul play… around 55 seconds in: Simply unbelievable. Tim Robinson IIRC. Another twat of a referee. I sincerely hope karma is real because some of the dopey pricks on here have it coming to them in spades. |
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Apr 15, 2024 18:52:50 GMT 1
Will be interesting to see which game (if any) she gets given next weekend. Having thought about it would like her to get our game against Swansea. Can you imagine the pressure. |
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Post by ben1987 on Apr 15, 2024 18:53:54 GMT 1
Yeah, that is definitely the most stonewall penalty I’ve ever seen not given. Had to look it up and I still can’t believe someone can see that and not call foul play… around 55 seconds in: Simply unbelievable. Good find. If thats Mo Salah he'd get two fucking penalties. In that game, the referee assessor gave him 7/100 (One hundred) |
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Apr 15, 2024 19:27:30 GMT 1
Good find. If thats Mo Salah he'd get two fucking penalties. In that game, the referee assessor gave him 7/100 (One hundred) And, for information, that's Nick Pope bollocksing up outside his area and getting away with it thanks to yet more incompetent refereeing by Robinson. There was no foul at any stage but, as ever, the ref sided with the goalkeeper. |
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Post by Ox Terrier on Apr 16, 2024 1:19:49 GMT 1
I thought the extended added time was completely justified from the injury/time wasting/substitution that occurred. Terrible decision to award the penalty though.
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Post by Henry Mcgee on Apr 16, 2024 6:18:21 GMT 1
Looks a bit more like a pen from this angle.
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Post by Floyds on Apr 16, 2024 6:36:46 GMT 1
It was crap from Turton anyway.
Out of position and too late getting across.
His first game in months so not too much of a surprise.
Was it an enforced change? I lost track near the end of what we were doing 🫤
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Post by dezzly on Apr 16, 2024 6:47:41 GMT 1
It was crap from Turton anyway. Out of position and too late getting across. His first game in months so not too much of a surprise. Was it an enforced change? I lost track near the end of what we were doing 🫤 How is he out of position?he’s one on one with the guy who has the ball initially,the other bloke makes a run from deeper and turton passes his man onto rudoni to go close down the cross,which he stops.That’s what they’re coached to do. You can argue was there a need to make the sub but the how it was defended is pretty standard. |
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Post by Floyds on Apr 16, 2024 6:49:40 GMT 1
It was crap from Turton anyway. Out of position and too late getting across. His first game in months so not too much of a surprise. Was it an enforced change? I lost track near the end of what we were doing 🫤 How is he out of position?he’s one on one with the guy who has the ball initially,the other bloke makes a run from deeper and turton passes his man onto rudoni to go close down the cross,which he stops.That’s what they’re coached to do. You can argue was there a need to make the sub but the how it was defended is pretty standard. Why’s he sliding across with his arm there if he’s in the correct position? |
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Post by rockwall on Apr 16, 2024 7:58:27 GMT 1
It was crap from Turton anyway. Out of position and too late getting across. His first game in months so not too much of a surprise. Was it an enforced change? I lost track near the end of what we were doing 🫤 How was he out of position, he tracked his man and then when the overlap happened, whoever was out wide hadn't come back so he went to stop the cross. At no point is it Turtons fault. |
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Post by Floyds on Apr 16, 2024 7:59:13 GMT 1
It was crap from Turton anyway. Out of position and too late getting across. His first game in months so not too much of a surprise. Was it an enforced change? I lost track near the end of what we were doing 🫤 How was he out of position, he tracked his man and then when the overlap happened, whoever was out wide hadn't come back so he went to stop the cross. At no point is it Turtons fault. Ok 👌 |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Apr 16, 2024 8:03:18 GMT 1
I thought a penalty had to be intentional handball? When the ball is hit at speed and you move your arm towards the ball, fair do’s, but to give that as intentional seems crazy.
However, I’ve now worked out why they employ Rebecca, she’s obviously honed her x-ray vision to the point it’s flawless…
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Post by Skint Terriers on Apr 16, 2024 8:26:59 GMT 1
Looks a bit more like a pen from this angle. This angle does look worse but I still don't understand where he is supposed to put his arm. If you are running and slide your arms will move there is nothing that anyone can do to stop that |
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Post by rothwellterrier on Apr 16, 2024 8:29:33 GMT 1
Looks a bit more like a pen from this angle. The ref isn’t sat with the fans though, which this angle is from.  If you pause it when the ball makes contact with Turton, the ball is more over his body than arm. You cannot say for certain it came off his arm or body. The contact is totally hidden from the ref and so quite how she could be certain enough to give it as a penalty is still wrong. He was literally trying his hardest in the split second before the ball got to him to bring his arm into his chest. It wasn’t in an unnatural position. All this angle does is confirm that the ref wasn’t wearing X-ray specs and so she couldn’t possibly have seen where the ball hit before going out for a corner. |
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Post by Drew Peacock on Apr 16, 2024 8:31:18 GMT 1
I think the main problem is that if that happens at the other end you can bet your bollocks it's not given once in 5000 times.
Refs are shit granted, but they need to be consistently shit for both teams.
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Post by duncfost01 on Apr 16, 2024 8:35:25 GMT 1
That angle does make it look worse.
We all know over the season we have had countless chances to put more points on the board. Lack of squad quality is why we are where we are, not one really bad decision by a referee.
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Post by trotsky on Apr 16, 2024 10:15:47 GMT 1
Most interesting thing from that view is that she doesn't appear to do anything until the Bristol player storms towards her and almost pushes her in the face. Any decent ref. would have booked him and awarded a corner.
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Post by dezzly on Apr 16, 2024 10:41:10 GMT 1
Most interesting thing from that view is that she doesn't appear to do anything until the Bristol player storms towards her and almost pushes her in the face. Any decent ref. would have booked him and awarded a corner. Couldn’t see which player it was but if he was still on the pitch I’d guess Williams. He was a disgrace in the home game and then in this game every free kick he went straight over to her asking for a booking. |
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Post by griffa on Apr 16, 2024 10:44:42 GMT 1
For the record, emailed EFL following the Hull City, Preston NE & Bristol City games, about the quality/standard of refereeing in the Championship.
Received an automatic email, acknowledging receipt of my emails, with a message that they would respond under the 'Fans Charter.'
Unfortunately not received a proper response to my emails, usual waffle from EFL!
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Post by irverino on Apr 16, 2024 10:50:46 GMT 1
Ms Welch will be in Yorkshire this weekend, thankfully not at JSS or making any decisions.....4th official & understudy to Anthony Taylor at Bramall lane for Sheff Utd v Burnley.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Apr 16, 2024 11:12:00 GMT 1
Ms Welch will be in Yorkshire this weekend, thankfully not at JSS or making any decisions.....4th official & understudy to Anthony Taylor at Bramall lane for Sheff Utd v Burnley. A game where there are likely to be limited consequences whatever the result… |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Apr 16, 2024 11:13:33 GMT 1
That reply to Keith Hackett looks like it’s a Wed supporter anyway.
So they don’t count out of the S6 postcode…
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Post by royrace on Apr 16, 2024 11:41:10 GMT 1
Most interesting thing from that view is that she doesn't appear to do anything until the Bristol player storms towards her and almost pushes her in the face. Any decent ref. would have booked him and awarded a corner. Same as the Preston one, ref massively swayed by the reaction of the players. Doesn't surprise me at all in her case, it's what we saw in the Hull game, just looks out of her depth and therefore prone to being pressured by the players and making stupid decisions due to the fact she's not comfortable. You never see penalties given for that sort of contact at point blank range and it's impossible to slide in with arms pinned to your side add that to the fact it's the 99 the minute, just an idiotic decision with no justification whatsoever. |
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Post by workshyfop on Apr 16, 2024 12:16:42 GMT 1
Did anyone see the West Brom penalty at Rotherham? I know it doesn’t matter at this stage of the season, but it’s a farce. 55 second if you want a look. Madness!
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Post by impact on Apr 16, 2024 15:27:25 GMT 1
Looks a bit more like a pen from this angle. It still isn't a penalty. His arm is in a natural position and it isn't away from his body when it hits him. And the main thing that angle shows is that there is no way Welch can actually see the handball. She has totally guessed based on where his arm was before the cross is made. |
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Post by impact on Apr 16, 2024 15:41:32 GMT 1
Most interesting thing from that view is that she doesn't appear to do anything until the Bristol player storms towards her and almost pushes her in the face. Any decent ref. would have booked him and awarded a corner. You mean like she booked Sorba at our place for pointing out their player wasn't 10 yards away? |
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Post by rockwall on Apr 16, 2024 16:08:26 GMT 1
How is he out of position?he’s one on one with the guy who has the ball initially,the other bloke makes a run from deeper and turton passes his man onto rudoni to go close down the cross,which he stops.That’s what they’re coached to do. You can argue was there a need to make the sub but the how it was defended is pretty standard. Why’s he sliding across with his arm there if he’s in the correct position? Because he went to cover the cross as someone further up hasn't done their job by following the man. The guy crossing wasn't Turtons man. |
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Post by DATM Travel Agent on Apr 18, 2024 14:09:53 GMT 1
Confirmation from the PGMOL that, shockingly, the penalty decision was in fact incorrect:
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Apr 18, 2024 14:17:20 GMT 1
Confirmation from the PGMOL that, shockingly, the penalty decision was in fact incorrect: |
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