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Post by htafcokay on Apr 20, 2024 19:27:08 GMT 1
But willo, look at what he's got to work with! Those players are fucking rubbish. We had someone lined up with Championship experience after Moore, but someone knew better.... I get your point mate but he lost me today and I don’t think there’s any coming back from here for me. How come Warnock was getting a tune (of sorts) out of the same bunch last season and for some of this season? I do think we have too many of a League 1 standard though. Don’t suppose you’re at liberty to divulge who the someone with Championship experience was? Well, he was widely panned on here at the time and the fans started going mental when his name was linked. |
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Post by Fish & Chips on Apr 20, 2024 19:27:59 GMT 1
I considered it AB odd appointment right from the start. There was talk about getting someone in for a short term impact then building for the future. AB might be the right person to start the summer with, but not for a relegation scrap in a league and country he has never worked in before. If this was any other major business out there, it could be classed as corporate negligence and the shareholders would be suing. Nagle needs to kick his pal, and his pal's pal, and AB and co who are totally out of their depth in this league. All credit to Wagner who learned quickly and adapted, but our other two German managers simply haven't dealt with the move.
For the last two games, our only slim chance is putting Worthington back in charge, or even Warnock ffs.
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Apr 20, 2024 19:34:17 GMT 1
Looking at those post match comments today I would say that AB thinks he is much better than this shitshow of a squad. He possibly is but turning up today without a game plan in a must win game is pretty inexcusable.
If he doesn't want to be here then he can leave as far as I'm concerned.
What difference is another disastrous decision on Cartwrights record eh?
100% Worthington for the last 2.
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Post by willo on Apr 20, 2024 19:36:17 GMT 1
Looking at those post match comments today I would say that AB thinks he is much better than this shitshow of a squad. He possibly is but turning up today without a game plan in a must win game is pretty inexcusable. If he doesn't want to be here then he can leave as far as I'm concerned. What difference is another disastrous decision on Cartwrights record eh? 100% Worthington for the last 2. As crazy as it sounds, it’s where I’m at. But then this has been a crazy season for decision making by the club. |
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 20, 2024 19:36:58 GMT 1
I think we should give it Brooky. He gets the club.
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Post by Floyds on Apr 20, 2024 19:37:01 GMT 1
I get your point mate but he lost me today and I don’t think there’s any coming back from here for me. How come Warnock was getting a tune (of sorts) out of the same bunch last season and for some of this season? I do think we have too many of a League 1 standard though. Don’t suppose you’re at liberty to divulge who the someone with Championship experience was? Well, he was widely panned on here at the time and the fans started going mental when his name was linked. Nathan Jones? |
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Post by Floyds on Apr 20, 2024 19:38:17 GMT 1
I think we should give it Brooky. He gets the club. Yes. Me too. I seriously think he’d have got a better result than AB today. I genuinely think the man’s a fraud. Like when Ali Diah (I think his name was) came on for Saints against Leeds after he pretended he was George Weah’s cousin. |
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Post by Big Ern on Apr 20, 2024 19:39:13 GMT 1
Fucking mental some people are. Time and time again...ITS NOT THE MANAGER ITS THE PLAYERS
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 20, 2024 19:39:33 GMT 1
I think we should give it Brooky. He gets the club. Yes. Me too. I seriously think he’d have got a better result than AB today. I genuinely think the man’s a fraud. Like when Ali Diah (I think his name was) came on for Saints against Leeds after he pretended he was George Weah’s cousin. Completely agree. If we'd have allowed Brooky to take charge after Moore left, we'd be making a late break for the play-offs now. We'd have actually snuck in if Worthy was still in charge. |
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Post by Floyds on Apr 20, 2024 19:40:07 GMT 1
Yes. Me too. I seriously think he’d have got a better result than AB today. I genuinely think the man’s a fraud. Like when Ali Diah (I think his name was) came on for Saints against Leeds after he pretended he was George Weah’s cousin. Completely agree. If we'd have allowed Brooky to take charge after Moore left, we'd be making a late break for the play-offs now. We'd have actually snuck in if Worthy was still in charge. We’re on the same page pal 👌👏🔥 |
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 20, 2024 19:40:56 GMT 1
Completely agree. If we'd have allowed Brooky to take charge after Moore left, we'd be making a late break for the play-offs now. We'd have actually snuck in if Worthy was still in charge. We’re on the same page pal 👌👏🔥 Deffo. Worthy for me, with Hogg as player-coach. |
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Post by King Neil on Apr 20, 2024 19:57:58 GMT 1
I hate to say it but it’s just not worked for the most part with AB and doesn’t look like it will. I don’t think he’ll be here anyway if we are in League 1. He has been tactically really, really poor which coming after Moore is saying something. Coupled with that he lacks any real form of emotion on the touch line (I know as I sit just up from the home dugout) and rarely contests some of the shite decisions against us with the 4th official. I said after Moore we absolutely needed someone with previous Championship experience but we gambled and it isn’t working at all. We all know we’re in for a repeat of today again next Saturday with AB in charge. Worthington at the very least might be able to drill into the players how dire our situation is because AB can’t seem to get any urgency out of them. But willo, look at what he's got to work with! Those players are fucking rubbish. We had someone lined up with Championship experience after Moore, but someone knew better.... Yet he came in saying what quality players we had and spoke about celebrating on the Town Hall balcony Blowing lots of smoke up our arses yet we have got worse under him The usual talking the talk and not being able to walk the walk |
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Apr 20, 2024 19:59:13 GMT 1
But willo, look at what he's got to work with! Those players are fucking rubbish. We had someone lined up with Championship experience after Moore, but someone knew better.... Yet he came in saying what quality players we had and spoke about celebrating on the Town Hall balcony Blowing lots of smoke up our arses yet we have got worse under him The usual talking the talk and not being able to walk the walk We have got worse U are correct 👍 |
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 20, 2024 19:59:15 GMT 1
But willo, look at what he's got to work with! Those players are fucking rubbish. We had someone lined up with Championship experience after Moore, but someone knew better.... Yet he came in saying what quality players we had and spoke about celebrating on the Town Hall balcony Blowing lots of smoke up our arses yet we have got worse under him The usual talking the talk and not being able to walk the walk Agreed. If they'd have left Worthy in charge we'd have been celebrating on the Town Hall steps as we'd have won the play-offs under him, no doubt. |
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Apr 20, 2024 20:16:39 GMT 1
Nagle knew better or he thought he did
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2024 21:12:21 GMT 1
It's a ridiculous question ..
But do I think that JW will get more out of this team in the last 2 games than AB? Yes, yes i do.
In league 1 I wouldn't want him at the wheel anyway.
He isn't a loss to us based on what I've seen; just another expensive mistake
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Post by alfredsterrier on Apr 20, 2024 21:33:53 GMT 1
Yes. Let’s get a manager who takes the lead twice against Southampton and loses 5-3 and was widely criticised for his subs and tactics.
A manager who lost to Hull after a late late equaliser.
We may have beaten Wednesday but we were garbage in the first half.
It’s easy to say he would have done better but the fact is he had the same players and largely the same results.
Warnock shipped 4 to Plymouth with this team.
Please. Hold the players to account and accept that they just are not performing.
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Post by specialun on Apr 20, 2024 21:36:53 GMT 1
No shock factor - less impact.
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Post by alfredsterrier on Apr 20, 2024 21:44:32 GMT 1
Apart from paying quite a few million for AB and his staff. which we are paying regardless. Breitenshiter is out of his depth in this relegation scrap. 4-0 at home speaks volumes. Yes. It speaks volumes of the players. I have never witnessed less fight in a town team. |
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Post by rougeboy31 on Apr 20, 2024 21:48:57 GMT 1
which we are paying regardless. Breitenshiter is out of his depth in this relegation scrap. 4-0 at home speaks volumes. Yes. It speaks volumes of the players. I have never witnessed less fight in a town team. I agree on the whole, however I don’t think there’s a single player who’s got better under Andre. I saw the other day that neither sorba or rudoni have got a goal contribution since he came in. Combine that with only 1 goal from helik and I think you’ve got to question if he knows how to get the best out of them no matter how shit they are |
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Post by benhomly on Apr 20, 2024 21:53:24 GMT 1
Yes. Let’s get a manager who takes the lead twice against Southampton and loses 5-3 and was widely criticised for his subs and tactics. A manager who lost to Hull after a late late equaliser. We may have beaten Wednesday but we were garbage in the first half. It’s easy to say he would have done better but the fact is he had the same players and largely the same results. Warnock shipped 4 to Plymouth with this team. Please. Hold the players to account and accept that they just are not performing. Blimey don't make it even worse than it already is |
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Post by alfredsterrier on Apr 20, 2024 21:55:13 GMT 1
Yes. It speaks volumes of the players. I have never witnessed less fight in a town team. I agree on the whole, however I don’t think there’s a single player who’s got better under Andre. I saw the other day that neither sorba or rudoni have got a goal contribution since he came in. Combine that with only 1 goal from helik and I think you’ve got to question if he knows how to get the best out of them no matter how shit they are I think we’re not that far apart and I probably agree equally in some respects. I agree that he maybe isn’t getting the best from them. I think in reality it’s just moving rubbish players around positions to where they may play slightly less rubbish. Rudoni is not going to score in the box wherever he starts. |
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Post by Orinoco on Apr 20, 2024 22:03:30 GMT 1
which we are paying regardless. Breitenshiter is out of his depth in this relegation scrap. 4-0 at home speaks volumes. Yes. It speaks volumes of the players. I have never witnessed less fight in a town team. They look good on the radio, Oggy always gets exited when they go forward (which isn't that often!) |
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Post by paderbornterrier on Apr 20, 2024 22:10:39 GMT 1
Its too late... but should have been replaced when results tailed off. Not when he was.
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Post by griffa on Apr 20, 2024 22:35:03 GMT 1
Still not convinced by AB his selections, subs etc and style or coaching don’t work. Maybe let Worthy take the last couple of games what else have we to lose. Great idea, Andre Brietenreiter completely out of his depth, come Kevin Nagle, put on please Andre out of his & our misery! |
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Post by huddersfc on Apr 20, 2024 23:29:35 GMT 1
Pointless, these players are a fucking disgrace, not even pep or Klopp would get a tune out of them. As a professional how do you even look at yourself in a mirror after capitulating so many times in a season. Giving up like they do. Imagine being in the trenches with these losers. First time they hear a bang they would have the white flag up cowering in the corner. Professional cowards this group of players in my opinion. I would be happy if we got rid of every single player at the end of the season. No player with any self respect would want to come in and play alongside these shirkers.
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 20, 2024 23:44:45 GMT 1
Its too late... but should have been replaced when results tailed off. Not when he was. Worthington lost his last game in charge. It had already tailed off. |
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Post by wildhogg on Apr 20, 2024 23:44:48 GMT 1
But willo, look at what he's got to work with! Those players are fucking rubbish. We had someone lined up with Championship experience after Moore, but someone knew better.... I get your point mate but he lost me today and I don’t think there’s any coming back from here for me. How come Warnock was getting a tune (of sorts) out of the same bunch last season and for some of this season? I do think we have too many of a League 1 standard though. Don’t suppose you’re at liberty to divulge who the someone with Championship experience was? Warnock was a the perfect chemistry of nostalgia and a Pied Piper who has genius level man-management skills. The success of his brief time in charge wasn't going to be repeated by someone who doesn't know the league and doesn't even have a firm grasp of the English language. |
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Post by tvor on Apr 21, 2024 0:00:44 GMT 1
Nope. After the first few games AB looked the business too. Chopping and changing again won’t solve the issues with the squad.
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Post by willo on Apr 21, 2024 1:10:07 GMT 1
Nope. After the first few games AB looked the business too. Chopping and changing again won’t solve the issues with the squad. Likely not but I’m expecting no different next week v Birmingham than we got this week v Swansea. Absolutely none. |
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