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Post by Mastercracker on Apr 23, 2024 14:36:58 GMT 1
I think Thomas will be wanted by most bottom half Championship teams and handful of top half ones. However, i think wherever he goes, it’ll be as a squad player fighting for his place, rather than the guaranteed starter he is at Town I think the same applies with Helik and Rudoni I don’t see any championship clubs signing any of those 3 as starting 11 players. I can’t see any championship clubs wanting Nicholls. He’s in his 30’s, his distribution is slow & poor and he’s not good with his feet. Championship clubs want goalkeepers who are good with their feet so they can play out from the back, but also have good quick distribution so they can hit teams quickly on the counter. The Swansea keeper is a perfect example of what Championship clubs look for in a keeper Agree on this except I feel it’s harsh on Helik. He’s dropped off recently as the malaise has fully set in but at his best he’s a very good centre back at this level. Most sides would want to pair him with someone who can play a bit more but I think he gets in half of the champs first XI. None of the promotion chasers but a lot of the chasing pack and bottom half. I’d be amazed if any champ sides paid money for Nicholls unless they were desperate for a back up. 3 seasons in his life in the championship and whilst he was unreal for 1 he’s been bang average at best for 2. As seen as the Swansea keepers had a mention I see he was here as a kid and is from Halifax, binned off when DH decided to shitcan the academy. Now getting mentioned as England possible 3rd choice for the Euros. Another outstanding decision 🤦🏻♂️ Edit - Rothwell beat me to it. |
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Post by Sparrow on Apr 23, 2024 14:41:52 GMT 1
I think Thomas will be wanted by most bottom half Championship teams and handful of top half ones. However, i think wherever he goes, it’ll be as a squad player fighting for his place, rather than the guaranteed starter he is at Town I think the same applies with Helik and Rudoni I don’t see any championship clubs signing any of those 3 as starting 11 players. I can’t see any championship clubs wanting Nicholls. He’s in his 30’s, his distribution is slow & poor and he’s not good with his feet. Championship clubs want goalkeepers who are good with their feet so they can play out from the back, but also have good quick distribution so they can hit teams quickly on the counter. The Swansea keeper is a perfect example of what Championship clubs look for in a keeper Agree on this except I feel it’s harsh on Helik. He’s dropped off recently as the malaise has fully set in but at his best he’s a very good centre back at this level. Most sides would want to pair him with someone who can play a bit more but I think he gets in half of the champs first XI. None of the promotion chasers but a lot of the chasing pack and bottom half. I’d be amazed if any champ sides paid money for Nicholls unless they were desperate for a back up. 3 seasons in his life in the championship and whilst he was unreal for 1 he’s been bang average at best for 2. As seen as the Swansea keepers had a mention I see he was here as a kid and is from Halifax, binned off when DH decided to shitcan the academy. Now getting mentioned as England possible 3rd choice for the Euros. Another outstanding decision 🤦🏻♂️ Edit - Rothwell beat me to it. I didn't realise that when I typed it. Well at least the Academy is coming back. Maybe we will produce similar quality players in years to come |
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Post by royrace on Apr 23, 2024 15:54:39 GMT 1
I think Thomas will be wanted by most bottom half Championship teams and handful of top half ones. However, i think wherever he goes, it’ll be as a squad player fighting for his place, rather than the guaranteed starter he is at Town I think the same applies with Helik and Rudoni I don’t see any championship clubs signing any of those 3 as starting 11 players. I can’t see any championship clubs wanting Nicholls. He’s in his 30’s, his distribution is slow & poor and he’s not good with his feet. Championship clubs want goalkeepers who are good with their feet so they can play out from the back, but also have good quick distribution so they can hit teams quickly on the counter. The Swansea keeper is a perfect example of what Championship clubs look for in a keeper Disagree re helik. He's good enough for most teams in this division as a starter. |
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Post by Sparrow on Apr 23, 2024 16:02:35 GMT 1
I think Thomas will be wanted by most bottom half Championship teams and handful of top half ones. However, i think wherever he goes, it’ll be as a squad player fighting for his place, rather than the guaranteed starter he is at Town I think the same applies with Helik and Rudoni I don’t see any championship clubs signing any of those 3 as starting 11 players. I can’t see any championship clubs wanting Nicholls. He’s in his 30’s, his distribution is slow & poor and he’s not good with his feet. Championship clubs want goalkeepers who are good with their feet so they can play out from the back, but also have good quick distribution so they can hit teams quickly on the counter. The Swansea keeper is a perfect example of what Championship clubs look for in a keeper Disagree re helik. He's good enough for most teams in this division as a starter. Be interesting to see what happens with Helik. Is he genuine Championship quality that will go to a decent side and start. Or does he just look good in squad that more or less everyone is League 1 standard. |
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Post by mosher on Apr 23, 2024 16:06:59 GMT 1
Disagree re helik. He's good enough for most teams in this division as a starter. Be interesting to see what happens with Helik. Is he genuine Championship quality that will go to a decent side and start. Or does he just look good in squad that more or less everyone is League 1 standard. I hope it's the former and we can build a solid defence around him, whichever division we're in next year. |
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Post by incognito on Apr 23, 2024 18:10:57 GMT 1
I think Thomas will be wanted by most bottom half Championship teams and handful of top half ones. However, i think wherever he goes, it’ll be as a squad player fighting for his place, rather than the guaranteed starter he is at Town I think the same applies with Helik and Rudoni I don’t see any championship clubs signing any of those 3 as starting 11 players. I can’t see any championship clubs wanting Nicholls. He’s in his 30’s, his distribution is slow & poor and he’s not good with his feet. Championship clubs want goalkeepers who are good with their feet so they can play out from the back, but also have good quick distribution so they can hit teams quickly on the counter. The Swansea keeper is a perfect example of what Championship clubs look for in a keeper Agree on this except I feel it’s harsh on Helik. He’s dropped off recently as the malaise has fully set in but at his best he’s a very good centre back at this level. Most sides would want to pair him with someone who can play a bit more but I think he gets in half of the champs first XI. None of the promotion chasers but a lot of the chasing pack and bottom half. I’d be amazed if any champ sides paid money for Nicholls unless they were desperate for a back up. 3 seasons in his life in the championship and whilst he was unreal for 1 he’s been bang average at best for 2. As seen as the Swansea keepers had a mention I see he was here as a kid and is from Halifax, binned off when DH decided to shitcan the academy. Now getting mentioned as England possible 3rd choice for the Euros. Another outstanding decision 🤦🏻♂️ Edit - Rothwell beat me to it. I think it was more down to Clements & the club being all in on England U18 goalkeeper Ryan Schofield at that stage and Rushworth never getting much of an opportunity. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Apr 23, 2024 18:24:56 GMT 1
Nicholls, Helik, Sorba, Rudoni, Healey and Spencer will probably be off if championship clubs come calling.
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Post by goodbet on Apr 23, 2024 18:44:18 GMT 1
Whomever we do sell, I just want us to get a fair price for ofr them. In the past we seem to have let some players go cheaply just to get them off the books.
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Post by Mastercracker on Apr 23, 2024 18:45:19 GMT 1
Agree on this except I feel it’s harsh on Helik. He’s dropped off recently as the malaise has fully set in but at his best he’s a very good centre back at this level. Most sides would want to pair him with someone who can play a bit more but I think he gets in half of the champs first XI. None of the promotion chasers but a lot of the chasing pack and bottom half. I’d be amazed if any champ sides paid money for Nicholls unless they were desperate for a back up. 3 seasons in his life in the championship and whilst he was unreal for 1 he’s been bang average at best for 2. As seen as the Swansea keepers had a mention I see he was here as a kid and is from Halifax, binned off when DH decided to shitcan the academy. Now getting mentioned as England possible 3rd choice for the Euros. Another outstanding decision 🤦🏻♂️ Edit - Rothwell beat me to it. I think it was more down to Clements & the club being all in on England U18 goalkeeper Ryan Schofield at that stage and Rushworth never getting much of an opportunity. He was 16 at the time, pretty sure we just binned off everyone of that age. Schofield was 18 so survived the cull. |
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Post by incognito on Apr 23, 2024 19:12:19 GMT 1
I think it was more down to Clements & the club being all in on England U18 goalkeeper Ryan Schofield at that stage and Rushworth never getting much of an opportunity. He was 16 at the time, pretty sure we just binned off everyone of that age. Schofield was 18 so survived the cull. He was let go a few months before they closed the academy (He'd been there since he was 8). He would have been in the new U17s if they fancied him. Just one of those things, unfortunately - a few other clubs in the area passed on him too before he signed on at Halifax. |
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Post by Ross83 on Apr 23, 2024 19:57:00 GMT 1
You'd like to think that it was always going to be a possibility for those signed in Jan that they may be in L1 next season, just as the brief was to AB. Whether in reality the agents get in their ears, or we simply can't afford their wages is another question.
Helik, Sorba, Rudoni and Nicholls will be gone without a doubt. Some saying they'd struggle getting past the bench for Championship clubs must be mad. Remember how shit we are and imagine those 4 in a good team. Sorba can't hit a fucking barn door but he can deliver consistent set pieces. Now imagine a team that can attack those effectively. Don't think Helik is fit tbh, think back to the games before his injury, he walks into most teams. Nicholls maybe lower end since his stock dropped but still a solid keeper that's been hung out to dry most of the season. Rudoni the same, lower end at the moment anyway, but would still be a big creative presence in a possession based team.
Think Balker, Spencer and Nakayama will all go.
Realistic best XI..
Maxwell
Turton
Lees
Pearson
Headley
Koroma
Hogg
Kasumu
Jones
Healey
Radulovic
Exciting times.
Special shout outs to Rebecca Welch, Delano Burgzorg and whoever the fuck decided Mark Cartwright was the right person to trust with the future of our club.
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Post by willo on Apr 23, 2024 20:01:50 GMT 1
Quite honestly, I couldn’t give 2 shits about League 1. I’m thinking about all the new spare time I’m going to have and how to fill it next season.
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Post by Uddersfield on Apr 23, 2024 20:11:14 GMT 1
Will need to do all the business as early as possible to give everyone a proper pre-season. But because of the imminent relegation I presume this will cause a lot of changes to targets so god knows how long it will take us to sort out.
One player I like is Joe Taylor on loan at Lincoln from Luton. Looks a real nippy striker who can actually finish. Would be a great start for which ever division we’d be in.
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Apr 23, 2024 22:17:01 GMT 1
With Dan James on the bench! Genuinely don’t think Thomas is a top 20 winger in the championship, just because he’s our best doesn’t mean he’s good. I’d love to see us add two wingers who can score 10 goals each next season. Not properly had that since Roberts and Pilkington. Just as I say it another for Summerville. But wingers aren’t there to score goals 🥴 Another hat trick from a winger tonight, shame they aren’t supposed to score goals supposedly. |
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Apr 24, 2024 16:43:15 GMT 1
Good news is there will be 20-50% wage cuts for the players, so they'll be paying the price significantly too.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Apr 24, 2024 17:20:18 GMT 1
Good news is there will be 20-50% wage cuts for the players, so they'll be paying the price significantly too. who and where was this said mate? |
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Apr 24, 2024 17:42:25 GMT 1
Good news is there will be 20-50% wage cuts for the players, so they'll be paying the price significantly too. who and where was this said mate? Just common sense no inside knowledge, will be built into all players contracts relegation clauses. |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Apr 24, 2024 17:45:03 GMT 1
who and where was this said mate? Just common sense no inside knowledge, will be built into all players contracts relegation clauses. some clubs don't do it mate, all depends on how purdent we have being . I hope we have , as in the premier league days , where at least the players took a 50% wage cut or at least a large one from what i remember. This could be huge in us having budget to attract players in the summer. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Apr 24, 2024 17:52:18 GMT 1
Genuinely don’t think Thomas is a top 20 winger in the championship, just because he’s our best doesn’t mean he’s good. I’d love to see us add two wingers who can score 10 goals each next season. Not properly had that since Roberts and Pilkington. Just as I say it another for Summerville. But wingers aren’t there to score goals 🥴 Another hat trick from a winger tonight, shame they aren’t supposed to score goals supposedly. Summerville crosses the ball once he has tried to get past the last man. He will try to make a chance for himself to score if he can. Thomas crosses the ball or tries to pass it every single time, often when there are no Town players to cross it to, or near enough to pass it to. Widemen are supposed to attack the box everytime they can, he simply does not. |
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Post by Sparrow on Apr 24, 2024 18:01:46 GMT 1
Just common sense no inside knowledge, will be built into all players contracts relegation clauses. some clubs don't do it mate, all depends on how purdent we have being . I hope we have , as in the premier league days , where at least the players took a 50% wage cut or at least a large one from what i remember. This could be huge in us having budget to attract players in the summer. I could be wrong but i think it was confirmed in one of the chairman’s diaries on Twatter that CD does, that players wages automatically drop if we’re relegated |
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Post by Mastercracker on Apr 24, 2024 20:10:41 GMT 1
I’ve seen a few contracts over the years due to my line of work. Unless anything has changed in the last few years they have a set wage for each division. Last time I saw one the drops to L1 were significant.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Apr 24, 2024 20:41:32 GMT 1
For a club that flirt with relegation in what seems like most seasons, it would be criminal if we don't have relegation wage reductions built in to every contract
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Post by boooothy on Apr 24, 2024 21:07:00 GMT 1
Relegation clauses are very sensible but at the same time ensures every single player who gets a Championship offer will leave.
Yeah yeah, i know, who wants our shit players.
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