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Post by CowshedJack on Jul 3, 2024 13:20:13 GMT 1
Holy shit
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Post by dezzly on Jul 3, 2024 13:22:32 GMT 1
Think we were offering around 8/9 ish…16 basic plus bonuses is wild enough but a relocation fee 😂😂😂😂
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Post by CowshedJack on Jul 3, 2024 13:24:09 GMT 1
Can’t play the lad for joining Birmingham, he’d be stupid not to.
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Post by ruggedivy on Jul 3, 2024 13:25:33 GMT 1
Think we were offering around 8/9 ish…16 basic plus bonuses is wild enough but a relocation fee 😂😂😂😂 So he joined Brum purely for money. Fair enough. Doesn't say much about their football department if he'd turned them down
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Jul 3, 2024 13:25:44 GMT 1
So essentially, when it was a footballing choice he’d chosen Town over Brum. He’s gone there purely for the money. You can’t blame him for doing that but he obviously didn’t buy into all this project crap when he had a straight choice. Onto the next one.
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Post by CowshedJack on Jul 3, 2024 13:27:48 GMT 1
So essentially, when it was a footballing choice he’d chosen Town over Brum. He’s gone there purely for the money. You can’t blame him for doing that but he obviously didn’t buy into all this project crap when he had a straight choice. Onto the next one. What footballer realistically cares about that project stuff? It’s a PR move. Let’s face it, footballers have a very short career and at this level don’t have many options after the career like punditry etc. It’s a business at the end of the day and that sort of money is life changing for his family’s future.
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Jul 3, 2024 13:28:59 GMT 1
Why? Physically, he never let us down in the Championship, I know he's not the most mobile or good on the ball but we've dropped down a division, where the vast majority of strikers are going to be big lumps. He has been a successful player for us at a higher level, I think he has earned a bit more respect. Quite frankly it shouldn’t even be in question that he doesn’t start this season. Your argument for him playing is irrelevant. Let’s break it down: He’s not the most mobile - Ok well this is 110% of what we’ll need this season, we aren’t going to be the second shittest team in the league defending for their lives and playing hoofball defending our own box for 90minutes. We will be on the front foot dominating in opposition halves, you need Balkers and Spencers in a dynamic team such as our intention of automatic promotion. Not good on the ball - You simply cannot have this as a challenging for the title CB, can you imagine Pearson being apart of build up play? Intricate passing moves? Playing out from the back? Not even close, as a professional footballer I’ve never seen someone not be able to accurately pass 5 yards and constant balls kicked out of play halting any form of counter attack or pressure release. (Similar with Kasumu but he’s slightly better..) Next season is a whole different ball game than what we’ve been subject to the past <insert large number> of seasons. He’s a good utility player and should be benched other than starting injuries, or holding onto leads. Nothing more nothing less Totally disagree, you want to rely on Balker a) still being here b) staying fit & c) coping with the physicality of League 1 strikers? I hope Helik & Spencer are here, though I doubt they will be, especially the former but Duff will have to be some miracle worker to turn our squad in to Real Madrid. We are playing in Division 3, if you get to play any football at all it's because you have earned the right by winning your physical battles, we have noone better than Pearson & Lees to set an example of getting stuck in & winning the ball in the first place. I also think you're going to be very disappointed if you think Duff is going to go all Beckenbauer on us, he'll expect the defenders to defend & get rid. You say you can't have players like Pearson challenging for the title, well sorry to have to tell you mate, he was an important part of a defence that was one game from promotion to the Premier League not so long ago in the league above the one we are now in. We will need players that won't shirk from physical challenges when the opposition have been so lucky in thwarting our superb non-stop attacking bombardment on their goal that they have managed to hoof it away. We have nothing to fear from League 1 but the physicality may take some of our lot a while to get used to & some may never manage it. In the perfect scenario IMO, Duff's 3 CBs will be Spencer & Balker either side of Helik, but many things will have to fall into place to make that happen that are far from certain & even if they do, we will need the likes of Pearson & Lees when Beckenbauer, Moore & Stones get injured. It's Division 3 mate, not Ligue 1.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 3, 2024 13:29:32 GMT 1
Around 20k a week with a 500k signing bonus? Glad we're not daft enough to try and match that tbf. Absolute madness!
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Post by dezzly on Jul 3, 2024 13:31:22 GMT 1
Wonder if it makes future transfers for them more difficult potentially. Players and agents will see that they’re playing silly wages and willing to pay “relocation fee” and just be asking for similar!
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Post by rothwellterrier on Jul 3, 2024 13:42:46 GMT 1
Pity that Brum WUM undercover has been banned. I did say I was more inclined to believe our ITK posters quoting 20k than his claims that Brum had “only” doubled Mays Charlton salary of 5k a week to 10k a week, and nowhere near the 20k mark
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Post by King Neil on Jul 3, 2024 13:47:25 GMT 1
Wonder if it makes future transfers for them more difficult potentially. Players and agents will see that they’re playing silly wages and willing to pay “relocation fee” and just be asking for similar! I have been taking a closer look at ffp rules for league one and basically there isn't any In league 1 a wealthy owner can inject cash as capital as long as its not a loan so increasing revenue Any players wages from contracts signed before September of the relegation season also do not count They have a free reign to spend as much as they like But so do we!
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Post by dezzly on Jul 3, 2024 13:49:32 GMT 1
Wonder if it makes future transfers for them more difficult potentially. Players and agents will see that they’re playing silly wages and willing to pay “relocation fee” and just be asking for similar! I have been taking a closer look at ffp rules for league one and basically there isn't any In league 1 a wealthy owner can inject cash as capital as long as its not a loan so increasing revenue Any players wages from contracts signed before September of the relegation season also do not count They have a free reign to spend as much as they like But so do we! Interesting.
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Jul 3, 2024 13:52:13 GMT 1
Wonder if it makes future transfers for them more difficult potentially. Players and agents will see that they’re playing silly wages and willing to pay “relocation fee” and just be asking for similar! I have been taking a closer look at ffp rules for league one and basically there isn't any In league 1 a wealthy owner can inject cash as capital as long as its not a loan so increasing revenue Any players wages from contracts signed before September of the relegation season also do not count They have a free reign to spend as much as they like But so do we! There is squad harmony to think about here. Sticking May or whoever on 20k a week which is probably way over the current top earner would not go down well with any of the players.
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on Jul 3, 2024 13:53:02 GMT 1
David Hartrick on the latest we are terriers pod said that he’d heard from someone he trusted that there were a few players who’s agents maybe suggested to them that they’d have many offers from clubs and that simply they’ve had little to no interest. Probably lends itself to those sorts of players going late on in this window,not ideal for the club but also not much they can do about it either other than to get the right money for them if something does materialise This sounds about right to me. Helik, Thomas & Nichols will all Probably leave. Do we need Headley, Ruffels & miller ? No. Miller?
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on Jul 3, 2024 13:53:31 GMT 1
Minus the decent in the air bit yes.Be nice if could convince him just to do another tear maybe but dunno how possible that would be ACL?
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Post by dezzly on Jul 3, 2024 13:53:45 GMT 1
I have been taking a closer look at ffp rules for league one and basically there isn't any In league 1 a wealthy owner can inject cash as capital as long as its not a loan so increasing revenue Any players wages from contracts signed before September of the relegation season also do not count They have a free reign to spend as much as they like But so do we! There is squad harmony to think about here. Sticking May or whoever on 20k a week which is probably way over the current top earner would not go down well with any of the players. Do have to factor this in yeh.plus just because we can offer those wages doesn’t mean it makes sense or that we should.Doubling his money should have been more than adequate.
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Post by Kenny irons on Jul 3, 2024 13:59:24 GMT 1
Very sneaky and naughty by brum, but we move on from Alfie may now.
Personally the 1 of 2 strikers I feel could really take us up a level for the upcoming season won’t come cheap. But both would make an immediate impact. Championships clubs will no doubt be interested in both
Ali Al Hamadi from Ipswich Town on loan or permanent Macauley Longstaff Notts County
Both very different strikers but both an absolute handful
Nothing at all in the above players, this is just a couple I would personally look at
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jul 3, 2024 14:06:58 GMT 1
We are competing with 23 teams this season. Hopefully for 2 automatic promotion spots or 4 play off spots. However many players Birmingham sign or how much they pay in wages, they can only fill one place in the final table. We play them twice its merely 6 points out of a possible 138. Expectations either raised monumentally or inbuilt into certain clubs has proved the stumbling block before in this division. If failure is not an option then the result next may can only go one of two ways if they throw a fortune of money and expectation at it. Im ok with a more measured approach to division one. Promotion will require the real work and investment so that we dont do what we and many others have done should they achieve the 'promised land' later. In shorter terms, Birmingham, fuck em.
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Post by Next Manager coming soon on Jul 3, 2024 14:09:08 GMT 1
I refuse to use the phrase “should be all over” BUT in the Sunmer George Dobson left Charlton after not signing a contract. Went to a team in Hungary on a free but that has now been cancelled for personal reasons. Now available on a free.
CDM. 26. Was Charltons captain. We deffo need a Hogg replacement. And if anyone says that’s Kasumu I will burn this forum to the ground!!! 🔥
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Post by detox on Jul 3, 2024 14:10:32 GMT 1
So despite our millionaire owner we still can't compete with top league 3 sides ?
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Jul 3, 2024 14:12:23 GMT 1
Those figures are nuts for League 1 - £20k p/w is £1m per year, for 3 years.
£3.5m + transfer fee + bonuses, on one player.
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Post by merseysideterrier on Jul 3, 2024 14:14:41 GMT 1
Haha, and I thought retiring Bellingham's shirt was the most ridiculous thing Brum could do! To be honest I have a lot of respect for Town in refusing to play silly buggers and match that. Absolutely insane wages on a three year contract for a player who's 31 and never risen above L1. The damage to the budget and to squad morale absolutely would not have been worth it, even if he does go on and score 25+ next year. Puts the lie to Brum's 'project' nonsense too, unless that project is to be a pound shop Chelsea who are still only the 5th best team in the West Midlands (behind Villa, Wolves, West Brom and Villa reserves).
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Post by Sio on Jul 3, 2024 14:15:22 GMT 1
So despite our millionaire owner we still can't compete with top league 3 sides ? Not when theirs is a billionaire
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Post by Captainslapper on Jul 3, 2024 14:19:24 GMT 1
So despite our millionaire owner we still can't compete with top league 3 sides ? How much would you have him pay a 3rd tier player? £25k a week? With what we pay for a season cards its only because of our millionaire owner that we can compete with middling League 3 teams never mind top ones!
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Post by ben1987 on Jul 3, 2024 14:19:34 GMT 1
A back line of Lees, Pearson and Balker would not be too shabby in this division. Turton and Spencer can also play in a back three, and Ruffels. Pearson should be nowhere near the first team this season I completely disagree. This season we will be in for some right dust ups - this is league one. It isn’t always going to be pretty football, you need warriors and he’s not one to go hiding.
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Post by dezzly on Jul 3, 2024 14:21:09 GMT 1
So despite our millionaire owner we still can't compete with top league 3 sides ? Seems like it’s more a matter of do we want to.Not do we want to compete of course we do,but do we want to pay somebody way more than they are worth. I’d suggest we’ve done the right thing not going back in and matching those amounts.
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Post by hoggy1975 on Jul 3, 2024 14:21:39 GMT 1
Cant blame him for taking the money. Now all the other players they are looking at will start to ask for similar amounts and the knock on effect with their other squad members might cause some issues.
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Post by Jello Biafra on Jul 3, 2024 14:22:04 GMT 1
So despite our millionaire owner we still can't compete with top league 3 sides ? Given the almost catastrophic financial fall-out (partly) from the excessive wages paid out in the Premier League years, and several immediate years following, do you think it is a good idea to sign a player on massive wages (for this League) and upset a dressing room full of 'Championship standard' players that are on the verge of reuniting under a new manager, whilst knowing that they'll all be beating a path to Edwards to negotiate their own hike in wages, thereby increasing the overall costs in one fell swoop? Swiss Tony has stated from the word go that he wants the club to become self-sustaining - how does your idea of how the club should be funded fit into this scenario?
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Post by Captainslapper on Jul 3, 2024 14:23:15 GMT 1
Haha, and I thought retiring Bellingham's shirt was the most ridiculous thing Brum could do!To be honest I have a lot of respect for Town in refusing to play silly buggers and match that. Absolutely insane wages on a three year contract for a player who's 31 and never risen above L1. The damage to the budget and to squad morale absolutely would not have been worth it, even if he does go on and score 25+ next year. Puts the lie to Brum's 'project' nonsense too, unless that project is to be a pound shop Chelsea who are still only the 5th best team in the West Midlands (behind Villa, Wolves, West Brom and Villa reserves). Birmingham have retired Bellinghams shirt ?? Youre joking!! he only played about 40 games for them in a season where they finished 20th!
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Post by theterrier42 on Jul 3, 2024 14:23:17 GMT 1
Pearson should be nowhere near the first team this season I completely disagree. This season we will be in for some right dust ups - this is league one. It isn’t always going to be pretty football, you need warriors and he’s not one to go hiding. Pearson gives me Peter Clarke vibes and think every team needs a centre half who will run through walls for the team and a set piece threat at this level
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