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Post by TerrierMulac on Jul 10, 2024 13:15:29 GMT 1
Going to attempt to guess these. No idea how long it's been around as an award Colwill Smith Rowe Pritchard Chalobah Chilwell Soon to be Matos? 1/6 Colwill (2023) the only one to be shortlisted after a spell at HTAFC. "Soon to be" as in yet to get on the field in a Town shirt... I think it was mentioned when he signed but wasn't Herbie Kane the other one?
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Post by benhomly on Jul 10, 2024 13:33:02 GMT 1
Exactly. I did make that point. He is made of glass. Grand total of 457 minutes in the league (12 games). 89 minutes across other competitions (2 games). The lad is insanely talented, but he just doesn't get onto the pitch enough. If he was fit, it'd be a no-brainer as a wildcard. But he isn't. Really? I think this is the problem with footballers in this country. We big them up to be superstars who should be winning World Cups and European Championships every 2 years when really they're not. I saw nothing in Anjorin to suggest he is insanely talented, just a big lad who tried to bulldoze his way through the opposition. Yes he scored a couple of worldies but then so did Tony Carss (well one anyway). I didn't see anyone suggesting he was insanely talented.
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Post by Big Ern on Jul 10, 2024 13:43:48 GMT 1
Hungbo just signed for Rotherham on loan. Very good signing at league one level. Hungbo have been very savvy in this transfer market and dare I say it probably have as good a squad if not better than ours at the moment.
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Post by incognito on Jul 10, 2024 13:43:58 GMT 1
1/6 Colwill (2023) the only one to be shortlisted after a spell at HTAFC. "Soon to be" as in yet to get on the field in a Town shirt... I think it was mentioned when he signed but wasn't Herbie Kane the other one? Yes he was. The full list (year of nomination): - Most recent HTAFC penalty taker at the JSS (2013) - Mark Cartwright "discovery" (2017) - Played in the same HTAFC team as Emile Smith-Rowe, who played in the same Arsenal youth team as his brother (2018) - Herbert Kane (2018) - His illness handed a league debut to 'one of our own' during the 2019/20 season (2019) - Tino Anjorin (2020, 2021) - Levi Colwill (2023)
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jul 10, 2024 13:47:08 GMT 1
Hungbo just signed for Rotherham on loan. Very good signing at league one level. A couple of spectacular goals but otherwise thought he was a limited winger. He's struggled in the 2nd level in England and Germany so League One is probably his level
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Post by terryya on Jul 10, 2024 13:53:35 GMT 1
Think Bojan defintely gets a season (after a full preseason) to prove himself. Plenty of players (at the highest level) have taken a long time to adjust to English football.
Writing him off based on a couple of appearances in a horrendous team is crazy. They might end up being correct but you've got to give him a fair crack
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Post by Art Vandelay on Jul 10, 2024 13:59:12 GMT 1
I think it was mentioned when he signed but wasn't Herbie Kane the other one? Yes he was. The full list (year of nomination): - Most recent HTAFC penalty taker at the JSS (2013) - Mark Cartwright "discovery" (2017) - Played in the same HTAFC team as Emile Smith-Rowe, who played in the same Arsenal youth team as his brother (2018) - Herbert Kane (2018) - His illness handed a league debut to 'one of our own' during the 2019/20 season (2019) - Tino Anjorin (2020, 2021) - Levi Colwill (2023) Yaya Sanogo Chris Willock Kamil Grabara
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Post by iffyslostlens on Jul 10, 2024 14:04:56 GMT 1
I think it was mentioned when he signed but wasn't Herbie Kane the other one? Yes he was. The full list (year of nomination): - Most recent HTAFC penalty taker at the JSS (2013) - Mark Cartwright "discovery" (2017) - Played in the same HTAFC team as Emile Smith-Rowe, who played in the same Arsenal youth team as his brother (2018) - Herbert Kane (2018) - His illness handed a league debut to 'one of our own' during the 2019/20 season (2019) - Tino Anjorin (2020, 2021) - Levi Colwill (2023) not a clue on the others but gonna go with Yaya for 2013? and Willock (2018)
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Post by Richard1986 on Jul 10, 2024 14:43:07 GMT 1
On the subject of outgoings would be interested in the views of people on our striker situation. We obviously keep Healey. Would people keep Ward or Radulovic if we bought a new striker? Would people keep Simpson, Harratt or Hudlin as our youth back up striker for mainly B team use? I'm thinking Radulovic and Harratt but Simpson is starting to score again in the B team friendlies. Keep Healey and Bojan, get rid of Ward, Harratt, Hudlin, Simpson Bojan looks like a dud. Never seen him do anything before. Hudlin is non-league standard and hasn’t improved. Would have preferred Rhodes over Ward.
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Post by itkterrier on Jul 10, 2024 14:58:49 GMT 1
Keep Healey and Bojan, get rid of Ward, Harratt, Hudlin, Simpson Bojan looks like a dud. Never seen him do anything before. Hudlin is non-league standard and hasn’t improved. Would have preferred Rhodes over Ward. Bit soon to be judging Bojan, showed what he can do against Stoke and with a full pre-season I think he’ll kick on
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Post by dbterrier32 on Jul 10, 2024 15:15:26 GMT 1
I'd be inclined to give Harrratt one last chance. Make or break season. I personally think he should be got off the books as quickly as possible. We have far too many project players who we hope will come good! Don’t think he is a project player anymore. Like Graeme says it’s his last chance do or die season. We seem to have a recent past of going ahead of the talent of our players. For example Jack Payne, could have been a good player for us but doing up to the Prem was too much for him, so he didn’t have a chance to reach the potential. In the same way, this might actually benefit Harratt. Relegation may have just saved his career with us. On the off pitch issues though, no more chances. The slightest thing again and it should be terminate his contract
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Post by goodbet on Jul 10, 2024 15:18:34 GMT 1
Totally agree. Bojan not up to it physically and Healey likely to miss more games than he plays. Need at least 2 strikers in ready to start. The rest I.e. Hudlin, Simpson. Harrat can go for me There's a player in Bojan, not sure if League 1 will bring it out but it's worth a try. Healey doesn't have a bad injury history, hopefully with a pre-season he'll be firing on all cylinders. Ward as an old head for the dressing room making a few cameos will be fine. Phillips potentially could factor in too, he got better than a goal every 3 games in a poor team the last time he played at this level. The rest of the strikers need to go though, off pitch behaviour aside Harratt just isn't good enough, Hudlin and Simpson also not up to scratch. For me that leaves 1 striker to bring in, just a better version of Simpson I reckon, someone with good physical presence who is good enough for top end league 1. If the wages Ward is on is anywhere near correct then we can't afford to have him hanging around just making a few cameos.
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Post by blanquiazules on Jul 10, 2024 15:35:55 GMT 1
I think that's harsh, there was plenty to suggest at 19 that he will play at a higher level than L1 imo. He was dropped into a poor midfield in a team low on morale so did OK for first senior appearances considering. I'd have him back as part of a competitive L1 squad if it were possible. We definitely need some outs though to facilitate. I think it would cost us alot of money in wages/loan fee. If we can get Evans for £450k wouldn't we be better spending our money on buying players rather than loans ? In general that's probably sensible but we've signed 4 permanently already and I think bringing a couple of loans gives the squad something extra. Our best seasons have had some PL loans playing big roles (Mooy/Palmer/Brown, Colwill/Sinani etc)
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Post by tepidterrier on Jul 10, 2024 15:40:04 GMT 1
There's a player in Bojan, not sure if League 1 will bring it out but it's worth a try. Healey doesn't have a bad injury history, hopefully with a pre-season he'll be firing on all cylinders. Ward as an old head for the dressing room making a few cameos will be fine. Phillips potentially could factor in too, he got better than a goal every 3 games in a poor team the last time he played at this level. The rest of the strikers need to go though, off pitch behaviour aside Harratt just isn't good enough, Hudlin and Simpson also not up to scratch. For me that leaves 1 striker to bring in, just a better version of Simpson I reckon, someone with good physical presence who is good enough for top end league 1. If the wages Ward is on is anywhere near correct then we can't afford to have him hanging around just making a few cameos. Fair point. No idea what he's rumoured to be on but he shouldn't be anywhere near our highest earners for that type of role in the squad. Hopefully they all took the deduction with relegation that their performances have deserved.
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Post by Terriersmad on Jul 10, 2024 16:06:17 GMT 1
I personally think he should be got off the books as quickly as possible. We have far too many project players who we hope will come good! Don’t think he is a project player anymore. Like Graeme says it’s his last chance do or die season. We seem to have a recent past of going ahead of the talent of our players. For example Jack Payne, could have been a good player for us but doing up to the Prem was too much for him, so he didn’t have a chance to reach the potential. In the same way, this might actually benefit Harratt. Relegation may have just saved his career with us.On the off pitch issues though, no more chances. The slightest thing again and it should be terminate his contract Or it could have ended it. We've gone from a 25-man squad to a 22-man squad, and he's too old to sneak in as an under-21. If we have other options, he'll be gone. He's not been involved in any pre-season friendlies yet either, and I don't know anything about injuries; his ban is definitely over. It's an irony that by standing by him, rather than sacking him, we may have sealed his fate as a Huddersfield Town player. I may be wrong - he may have a knock stopping him from being involved and he has a future if he knuckles down and stays out of bother. He certainly has the talent to be a complete pest of a striker at this level, someone defenders hate dealing with because he doesn't give them a moment.
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Post by fredcarno1 on Jul 10, 2024 16:07:39 GMT 1
Ward as an ‘old head in the dressing room’ !!! Would that be advising the young players how to feign injury, steal a living and not score many goals ?
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Post by royrace on Jul 10, 2024 16:28:07 GMT 1
I personally think he should be got off the books as quickly as possible. We have far too many project players who we hope will come good! Don’t think he is a project player anymore. Like Graeme says it’s his last chance do or die season. We seem to have a recent past of going ahead of the talent of our players. For example Jack Payne, could have been a good player for us but doing up to the Prem was too much for him, so he didn’t have a chance to reach the potential. In the same way, this might actually benefit Harratt. Relegation may have just saved his career with us. On the off pitch issues though, no more chances. The slightest thing again and it should be terminate his contract He's played in L1 before and been bang average, time to say goodbye. As has been said we've enough project players who are obviously never going to improve sufficiently. The fact he's trouble off the pitch just makes it an even easier decision.
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Post by crux on Jul 10, 2024 16:29:49 GMT 1
Don’t think he is a project player anymore. Like Graeme says it’s his last chance do or die season. We seem to have a recent past of going ahead of the talent of our players. For example Jack Payne, could have been a good player for us but doing up to the Prem was too much for him, so he didn’t have a chance to reach the potential. In the same way, this might actually benefit Harratt. Relegation may have just saved his career with us.On the off pitch issues though, no more chances. The slightest thing again and it should be terminate his contract Or it could have ended it. We've gone from a 25-man squad to a 22-man squad, and he's too old to sneak in as an under-21. If we have other options, he'll be gone. He's not been involved in any pre-season friendlies yet either, and I don't know anything about injuries; his ban is definitely over. It's an irony that by standing by him, rather than sacking him, we may have sealed his fate as a Huddersfield Town player. I may be wrong - he may have a knock stopping him from being involved and he has a future if he knuckles down and stays out of bother. He certainly has the talent to be a complete pest of a striker at this level, someone defenders hate dealing with because he doesn't give them a moment. The change in squad size isn't quite as dramatic as it seems. Goalkeepers aren't included in the 22 man squad, but were in the 25 man squad.
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Post by arry11 on Jul 10, 2024 16:42:15 GMT 1
I think it would cost us alot of money in wages/loan fee. If we can get Evans for £450k wouldn't we be better spending our money on buying players rather than loans ? In general that's probably sensible but we've signed 4 permanently already and I think bringing a couple of loans gives the squad something extra. Our best seasons have had some PL loans playing big roles (Mooy/Palmer/Brown, Colwill/Sinani etc) Loan players is a difficult one not sure where we can guarantee them enough game time.
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Post by Terriersmad on Jul 10, 2024 17:11:33 GMT 1
Or it could have ended it. We've gone from a 25-man squad to a 22-man squad, and he's too old to sneak in as an under-21. If we have other options, he'll be gone. He's not been involved in any pre-season friendlies yet either, and I don't know anything about injuries; his ban is definitely over. It's an irony that by standing by him, rather than sacking him, we may have sealed his fate as a Huddersfield Town player. I may be wrong - he may have a knock stopping him from being involved and he has a future if he knuckles down and stays out of bother. He certainly has the talent to be a complete pest of a striker at this level, someone defenders hate dealing with because he doesn't give them a moment. The change in squad size isn't quite as dramatic as it seems. Goalkeepers aren't included in the 22 man squad, but were in the 25 man squad. Thank you for that. Actually means it’s exactly the same in terms of options. So my point is very much negated.
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Post by crux on Jul 10, 2024 17:32:30 GMT 1
The change in squad size isn't quite as dramatic as it seems. Goalkeepers aren't included in the 22 man squad, but were in the 25 man squad. Thank you for that. Actually means it’s exactly the same in terms of options. So my point is very much negated. It also looks like any under 21's are excluded, so unlike the Championship any loans where the player is U21 won't be counted in the 22 either.
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Post by Terriersmad on Jul 10, 2024 17:53:12 GMT 1
Thank you for that. Actually means it’s exactly the same in terms of options. So my point is very much negated. It also looks like any under 21's are excluded, so unlike the Championship any loans where the player is U21 won't be counted in the 22 either. Might be why we’re supposedly looking at loans to bolster options. It would make good sense.
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Post by araucaria on Jul 10, 2024 17:56:50 GMT 1
Don’t think he is a project player anymore. Like Graeme says it’s his last chance do or die season. We seem to have a recent past of going ahead of the talent of our players. For example Jack Payne, could have been a good player for us but doing up to the Prem was too much for him, so he didn’t have a chance to reach the potential. In the same way, this might actually benefit Harratt. Relegation may have just saved his career with us. On the off pitch issues though, no more chances. The slightest thing again and it should be terminate his contract He's played in L1 before and been bang average, time to say goodbye. As has been said we've enough project players who are obviously never going to improve sufficiently. The fact he's trouble off the pitch just makes it an even easier decision. Harratt has never kicked a ball in League 1.
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Post by Up the Duff. on Jul 10, 2024 18:10:54 GMT 1
I might have missed this being discussed, so apologies if I have. Hungbo gone to Rotherham on loan. Good signing for them in league 1.
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Post by Moooooy on Jul 10, 2024 18:15:42 GMT 1
Would have loved to get Hungbo back. Great signing for Rotherham.
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Post by utttrooper on Jul 10, 2024 18:18:06 GMT 1
It also looks like any under 21's are excluded, so unlike the Championship any loans where the player is U21 won't be counted in the 22 either. Might be why we’re supposedly looking at loans to bolster options. It would make good sense. Loans take up a place in the squad regardless of their age
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Post by blueandwhiteterrier on Jul 10, 2024 18:24:26 GMT 1
Would have loved to get Hungbo back. Great signing for Rotherham. I agree. I was hoping Town would make an offer instead of letting him go back to Watford.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Jul 10, 2024 18:25:40 GMT 1
Bojan has composure you can’t teach - the way he sat Dias down at Man City. Also got a good touch, movement and finishing.
Clearly doesn’t relish the physical stuff and that will probably decide his future with us if he can’t cope with the hits. Not that quick and likes to drop off to get it to feet, so he needs another striker to attack the centre backs to give him the space he wants - either by running in behind or battling. Midfield runners important too so Evans will be important for him personally.
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Post by RickDangerous on Jul 10, 2024 18:27:13 GMT 1
Keep Healey and Bojan, get rid of Ward, Harratt, Hudlin, Simpson Bojan looks like a dud. Never seen him do anything before. Hudlin is non-league standard and hasn’t improved. Would have preferred Rhodes over Ward. Ever? Have a look at that goal he scored against Stoke. Best goal we scored last season.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jul 10, 2024 18:31:48 GMT 1
Bojan has composure you can’t teach - the way he sat Dias down at Man City. Also got a good touch, movement and finishing. Clearly doesn’t relish the physical stuff and that will probably decide his future with us if he can’t cope with the hits. Not that quick and likes to drop off to get it to feet, so he needs another striker to attack the centre backs to give him the space he wants - either by running in behind or battling. Midfield runners important too so Evans will be important for him personally. The cameo at City, the same composure he showed at Blackburn when unlucky to not score and the goal at Stoke show he has something. Just looks a bit too slow and soft for my liking but he wouldn't be with us if he had everything
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