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Post by ram on Jul 21, 2024 10:17:32 GMT 1
Reading that list of players on the tour,I cannot see much to suggest anything like the playoffs from a squad that includes Ward and Harratt and the weak links from last seasons debaucle...Prove me wrong Town!
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Post by detox on Jul 21, 2024 10:19:34 GMT 1
and see less of him throwing his head back, waving his arms around in frustration...or lust lapsing into a sulk...
I am 100% unconvinced about him and haven't seen anything at all about him that says he's worth £10k, never mind £1m....
Believe he was carrying a niggly injury all last season,possibly to his foot/ankle.It showed,he just couldn’t get match sharp.Think some minor surgery may have taken place not long after the season ended. Hopefully with a full pre season and one he can put his all into he will look a different player.Mentally he knows he’s good enough for the level as he’s proved it before,I’m looking forward to seeing what he can do. Steven chicken and Hartrick have already noted that he’s looked sharper in the friendlies whilst giving the caveat of the level of opposition.Believe Mr Matt shaw also may have tweeted something similar after one of the games too. Quite looking forward to seeing the makeup of the midfield with us looking for another,again using chicken,his latest postcard pod from Austria he said he believes hodge is one of a few the club are looking at. If he was carrying this 'knock', it begs the question why we splashed out the £ on a player 'for the future' when what we desperately needed last season was players to come and have an immediate impact to avoid us being relegated..?
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Post by fredcarno1 on Jul 21, 2024 10:25:43 GMT 1
Reading that list of players on the tour,I cannot see much to suggest anything like the playoffs from a squad that includes Ward and Harratt and the weak links from last seasons debaucle...Prove me wrong Town! [ Careful mate you’ll be labelled as being negative. 100% agree with you
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Post by The King's Head 1230 on Jul 21, 2024 10:28:44 GMT 1
So the striker debacle continues although the stadium paint job looks great!
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Post by dalesterrier on Jul 21, 2024 10:30:30 GMT 1
Shame the season starts tomorrow 🤦🤦
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 21, 2024 10:41:24 GMT 1
Reading that list of players on the tour,I cannot see much to suggest anything like the playoffs from a squad that includes Ward and Harratt and the weak links from last seasons debaucle...Prove me wrong Town! [ Careful mate you’ll be labelled as being negative. 100% agree with you Some of us were saying the same last season but all we were told was "Yeah, but Warnock". I just hope the club don't make the same mistake again. It's mad how we have loads of forwards on the books but the vast majority of them are shite.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 21, 2024 11:01:53 GMT 1
[ Careful mate you’ll be labelled as being negative. 100% agree with you Some of us were saying the same last season but all we were told was "Yeah, but Warnock". I just hope the club don't make the same mistake again. It's mad how we have loads of forwards on the books but the vast majority of them are shite. All we can go on , is the owner himself said we need cf's and we will sign 2. Whatever the reason for leaving Bojan at home, Nagle said this obvs knowing what the plan is , therefore i expect us to sign those 2 cf's . Therefore leaving us with Healey, 2 new , harrat and ward . We have to asume its all in hand , just not being openly talked about .
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Post by dezzly on Jul 21, 2024 11:03:06 GMT 1
Believe he was carrying a niggly injury all last season,possibly to his foot/ankle.It showed,he just couldn’t get match sharp.Think some minor surgery may have taken place not long after the season ended. Hopefully with a full pre season and one he can put his all into he will look a different player.Mentally he knows he’s good enough for the level as he’s proved it before,I’m looking forward to seeing what he can do. Steven chicken and Hartrick have already noted that he’s looked sharper in the friendlies whilst giving the caveat of the level of opposition.Believe Mr Matt shaw also may have tweeted something similar after one of the games too. Quite looking forward to seeing the makeup of the midfield with us looking for another,again using chicken,his latest postcard pod from Austria he said he believes hodge is one of a few the club are looking at. If he was carrying this 'knock', it begs the question why we splashed out the £ on a player 'for the future' when what we desperately needed last season was players to come and have an immediate impact to avoid us being relegated..? Could have happened pre season.Or be considered something and nothing on a medical.I don’t know.But considering many say he was a signing Warnock had plenty influence on I wouldn’t imagine he signs someone for he future. Probably more just bit of bad luck,it happens.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2024 11:07:07 GMT 1
It’s ok guys Harratt will score and then you’ll have the usual happy clappers begging for him to start.
Hudlin last season cough cough…
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Jul 21, 2024 11:29:42 GMT 1
Really need to chill, there will be a ton of work in the background going on to get one or two strikers in - just cos we haven't announced Ronaldo & Messi yet doesn't mean we're sat back doing nothing.
We need the right calibre of player in, if noone else wants him, it's a pretty good indication he's not the right type of player. If we are looking at a loan, they are often decided towards the end of the window, currently, their parent clubs will be weighing up whether to loan them at all, use them themselves or find the best fit for them.
It's no secret we wanted May but the club will be on Plan B now etc, be patient, IMO, the owner will bring someone in.
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Post by kwami-hodouto on Jul 21, 2024 11:31:25 GMT 1
It is slightly worrying that the bulk of the squad is the same as last season. How many of them don't actually want to be here?
Two of the three players we signed in January are not in that list, and the other is more than likely to get injured at some point.
The striker situation is a real worry. After last summer you can't fault our fans for being slightly worried getting things sorted.
Nothing seems to have moved on much since missing out on May, who seemed to be our top target.
If we start the season with a strike force of Healey, Ward, Harratt and Koroma, we will struggle to get in the play offs.
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Post by Detective Boyle on Jul 21, 2024 11:34:16 GMT 1
Reading that list of players on the tour,I cannot see much to suggest anything like the playoffs from a squad that includes Ward and Harratt and the weak links from last seasons debaucle...Prove me wrong Town! Agreed. We needed an overhaul and we haven’t got it. Pearson, Lees, Koroma, Hogg. Whilst many have been good servants they are used to failure. It needs top to bottom refreshing and it doesn’t look like that’s the plan.
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Post by dezzly on Jul 21, 2024 11:40:36 GMT 1
Reading that list of players on the tour,I cannot see much to suggest anything like the playoffs from a squad that includes Ward and Harratt and the weak links from last seasons debaucle...Prove me wrong Town! Agreed. We needed an overhaul and we haven’t got it. Pearson, Lees, Koroma, Hogg. Whilst many have been good servants they are used to failure. It needs top to bottom refreshing and it doesn’t look like that’s the plan. Problem been you can only get rid of players if someone wants them.Also throw in a new manager may see something different. Lastly I wouldn’t say used to failure,all those players played fairly substantial parts in the playoff season.What I would say is certainly for the last couple of seasons the group as a whole has been poor. There is also the fact that there is,I think,6 more weeks left in the window.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2024 11:47:11 GMT 1
It is slightly worrying that the bulk of the squad is the same as last season. How many of them don't actually want to be here? Two of the three players we signed in January are not in that list, and the other is more than likely to get injured at some point. The striker situation is a real worry. After last summer you can't fault our fans for being slightly worried getting things sorted. Nothing seems to have moved on much since missing out on May, who seemed to be our top target. If we start the season with a strike force of Healey, Ward, Harratt and Koroma, we will struggle to get in the play offs. I’ll admit i am slightly worried about the squad, however duff seems like the right man who can get the best out of players. May couldn’t hit a barn door before Duff coached him at cheltenham, now he’s arguably the best striker in the league. Herbie Kane didn’t look the best pre-duff either. It seems he can man manage players extremely well going off this. Like Carlos did, had very average players playing at 100% of their ability. Harratt i think there is a player there. Seems a proper grafter similar to Danny Ward (hopefully with more goals than pressing), which i think Duff will like as he wants hard workers. Hudlin and Simpson i think are league two standard at best possibly even non league, and Ward on his day when he can finish is great, however that day rarely comes anymore! If he plays like he did at Watford every week id happily have him in the team, but i have my doubts. Bojan is a disappointment for me. He had some flashes of brilliance (Man city/Blackburn/Stoke) and i really thought he would’ve made a name for himself in league one. But if Duff thinks he isn’t good enough/isn’t working hard enough then i’ll trust him as he knows this league.
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 21, 2024 11:49:55 GMT 1
Agreed. We needed an overhaul and we haven’t got it. Pearson, Lees, Koroma, Hogg. Whilst many have been good servants they are used to failure. It needs top to bottom refreshing and it doesn’t look like that’s the plan. Problem been you can only get rid of players if someone wants them.Also throw in a new manager may see something different. Lastly I wouldn’t say used to failure,all those players played fairly substantial parts in the playoff season.What I would say is certainly for the last couple of seasons the group as a whole has been poor. There is also the fact that there is,I think,6 more weeks left in the window. But it was the same last season. "There's lots of time before the window shuts". And the clock ticked away and we signed no strikers.
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Post by TomTheTerrier on Jul 21, 2024 11:50:34 GMT 1
Think some people need to reset their expectations on a ‘clear out’
Pearson for example, very good CB at League 1 level and under contract, also prime of his career. Very unclear why people think we should be paying him to leave 😂
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Post by royrace on Jul 21, 2024 12:01:44 GMT 1
This 100%, bloke seemed to be signed off the back of YouTube clips of him scoring against semi pro players in Finland. We’ll end up giving him away for next to nothing. As it stands the foward line bar Healy who has injury worries looks very very poor. Ward is way past his best and that wasn’t very good in the first place. Koroma is a winger, and you couldn’t make a decent League 1 player out of Harratt, Simpson and Hudlin combined. Think pretty ridiculous to suggest been signed off the back of YouTube clips. For me the ability is probably there,even at championship level.Ita more application I think. He strikes me as a player who will bounce around clubs showing potential but rarely delivering until he finally grows up at 28/29 and realises he’s done nothing much of note,shame really. Transfer wise you win some you lose some,let’s judge on how this summers recruits go. 100% we need to stock up striker wise though,might even need two.Ward may stay fit and be decent at this level but it’s a might,we could do with more of a sure thing,or as close as you can get anyway. Very strange situation, perhaps he's asked to leave, attitude might be suspect. Seem to remember him being left out last season and then telling everyone on social media he was fit to play. Seemed like a bit of a paddy. Two new strikers needed pronto. I don't ever want to see Hudlin in a town shirt again and I'd prefer not to see Harrat.
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Post by dezzly on Jul 21, 2024 12:13:53 GMT 1
Problem been you can only get rid of players if someone wants them.Also throw in a new manager may see something different. Lastly I wouldn’t say used to failure,all those players played fairly substantial parts in the playoff season.What I would say is certainly for the last couple of seasons the group as a whole has been poor. There is also the fact that there is,I think,6 more weeks left in the window. But it was the same last season. "There's lots of time before the window shuts". And the clock ticked away and we signed no strikers. Can only go off what has been mentioned.FFI restrictions on spending last summer,I don’t know the ins and outs but it can’t have helped.Also what won’t have helped is an entirely new recruitment setup on limited time.That’s not an excuse it’s a reason. This time round they don’t have that and again with what we are led to believe we should be more than competitive in the market at this level.January on the face it it seemed decent but in hindsight it wasn’t. The business so far has been solid(again that’s on paper)We were openly chasing the divisions top scorer and the hodge link suggests we are looking for another midfielder,be amazed if not in for centre half too. I can understand the sentiment though as let down last season. I try to be balanced and take everything into account.For me though there are zero excuses this window,plenty of time has been had,manager in early and the funds are there.I’ll judge on that at the end of the window,it doesn’t mean I don’t have concerns but I’m willing to judge when it’s done and dusted.
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Post by dezzly on Jul 21, 2024 12:17:58 GMT 1
Think pretty ridiculous to suggest been signed off the back of YouTube clips. For me the ability is probably there,even at championship level.Ita more application I think. He strikes me as a player who will bounce around clubs showing potential but rarely delivering until he finally grows up at 28/29 and realises he’s done nothing much of note,shame really. Transfer wise you win some you lose some,let’s judge on how this summers recruits go. 100% we need to stock up striker wise though,might even need two.Ward may stay fit and be decent at this level but it’s a might,we could do with more of a sure thing,or as close as you can get anyway. Very strange situation, perhaps he's asked to leave, attitude might be suspect. Seem to remember him being left out last season and then telling everyone on social media he was fit to play. Seemed like a bit of a paddy. Two new strikers needed pronto. I don't ever want to see Hudlin in a town shirt again and I'd prefer not to see Harrat. Agree on hudlin.Simpson been confined to the b team by looks of things.Harratt for me has slightly more than those two but at no point do I want him starting a league game. Radulovic I agree think left behind on attitude/mentality/application.If he’s not putting it in in training if gives duff the chance to lay down a marker to the rest by leaving him. Like others say though we do need to make sure we recruit there and with quality.
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Post by pauldaltonsboots on Jul 21, 2024 12:35:46 GMT 1
No need to panic - I’m really looking forward to this season. I agree Hudlin and Simpson not the required standard. Harratt - jury is out - had a few decent performances in championship. Other issues with him, but lack of ability possibly not one of them. If Duff gives him a chance this season, then suspect final chance for him at Town.
Need to remember this is league one not the championship and with improved midfield options, we will have more possession and create more chances than we did as a struggling team in the championship.
I think Ward and Koroma can more than contribute - new manager and new ideas. Both will likely offer more in a front two. Koroma for example more licence to roam. Good chance will be our players start of the season - fresh start for everyone so let’s get behind them.
I agree that we need one quality addition up front - similar calibre and goal threat at this level to May. Add that player alongside these other 4 (Healey, Ward, Koroma and Harratt) and it is a good mix at this level.
Only 5 players in League One scored 16 goals or more last season, so there won’t be many teams with stronger options than us, even if we would like it to be stronger.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 21, 2024 12:39:28 GMT 1
Problem been you can only get rid of players if someone wants them.Also throw in a new manager may see something different. Lastly I wouldn’t say used to failure,all those players played fairly substantial parts in the playoff season.What I would say is certainly for the last couple of seasons the group as a whole has been poor. There is also the fact that there is,I think,6 more weeks left in the window. But it was the same last season. "There's lots of time before the window shuts". And the clock ticked away and we signed no strikers. Warnock said in his first presser back that his number one priority was a striker or two. You know when the transfer window closes and your no.9 shirt is still vacant, with Ward, Harratt and Hudlin as your only recognised 'strikers' something went badly wrong. Teams in league 2 had better strikers than we did, which is a big reason why we're now playing league 1 football. Lessons need to be learned.
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Jul 21, 2024 12:42:12 GMT 1
We have some fucking odd ball fans.
Seeing words like gutted being thrown about if Bojan leaves.
He’s scored once yes once for us since January and if Duff has figured him out to be someone who doesn’t buy into his principles then why on earth do we want him here.
Gutted? Do me a favour.
Still plenty of time left in the window to get a striker in, relax people.
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Jul 21, 2024 12:42:30 GMT 1
If anyone has seen the pre-season games to date, the body language, the showing for the ball, the general look of a team that knows how it wants to play, is like chalk & cheese to last season.
Maybe Duff has built confidence & got players who were really poor last season to buy in on what he wants to do. A couple of my Bradford supporting mates went to watch their match at Guiseley & had a couple of beers with some home fans after the game - they had seen both us play the week before & told my mates that there was a huge difference between the quality of the 2 visiting teams. As the results suggest (0-7 & 2-1), the Guiseley fans were shocked at how good we looked (& how bad Bradford were).
I know it's only pre-season, yet the contrast in how the team looks now compared to last season is huge.
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Post by fredcarno1 on Jul 21, 2024 12:49:19 GMT 1
We have some fucking odd ball fans. Seeing words like gutted being thrown about if Bojan leaves. He’s scored once yes once for us since January and if Duff has figured him out to be someone who doesn’t buy into his principles then why on earth do we want him here. Gutted? Do me a favour. Still plenty of time left in the window to get a striker in, relax people. Been here since January and folk are raving on about 2 half chances he created against Man City and Blackburn. Although tbf when you’ve had the likes of Danny Ward stealing a leaving at Town for the last 4 years it shows you how low the bar has been set !!
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Post by pauldaltonsboots on Jul 21, 2024 12:54:25 GMT 1
Bit simplistic to say Bojan is amazing or sh1t - not enough to go on.
I think I will be equally happy/apathetic if he stays or goes. Sometimes it just doesn’t work out. He did score 5 in 7 in Europe so not just goals in Finnish league - he may go on to have a decent career but suspect that will be away from us.
However, if he stays, he gets my full backing and maybe Duff can get a tune out of him. Has ability, but whether he has the heart or the physicality remains to be seen
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 21, 2024 13:00:55 GMT 1
But it was the same last season. "There's lots of time before the window shuts". And the clock ticked away and we signed no strikers. Warnock said in his first presser back that his number one priority was a striker or two. You know when the transfer window closes and your no.9 shirt is still vacant, with Ward, Harratt and Hudlin as your only recognised 'strikers' something went badly wrong. Teams in league 2 had better strikers than we did, which is a big reason why we're now playing league 1 football. Lessons need to be learned. And those strikers we started the season with are all still here, and our fans think that they'll be fine. Beggars belief.
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 21, 2024 13:03:08 GMT 1
We have some fucking odd ball fans. Seeing words like gutted being thrown about if Bojan leaves. He’s scored once yes once for us since January and if Duff has figured him out to be someone who doesn’t buy into his principles then why on earth do we want him here. Gutted? Do me a favour. Still plenty of time left in the window to get a striker in, relax people. Modern football fans for you. Player scores a goal, he's a legend. Player misses a chance, he's a wanker. There's no in between anymore, players can't be average or run of the mill, they're either "class" or "shite". I don't think I've ever been "gutted" to see a player leave, certainly not one that's done the square root of fuck all since he's been here.
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Post by mosher on Jul 21, 2024 13:08:05 GMT 1
We have some fucking odd ball fans. Seeing words like gutted being thrown about if Bojan leaves. He’s scored once yes once for us since January and if Duff has figured him out to be someone who doesn’t buy into his principles then why on earth do we want him here. Gutted? Do me a favour. Still plenty of time left in the window to get a striker in, relax people. Modern football fans for you. Players scores a goal, he's a legend. Players misses a chance, he's a wanker. There's no in between anymore, players can't be average or run of the mill, they're either "class" or "shite". I don't think I've ever been "gutted" to see a player leave, certainly not one that's done the square root of fuck all since he's been here. I think the last time I was genuinely "gutted" to see a player leave was Stewie. I was disappointed Mooy, Schinds and some others have left but not "gutted".
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Post by workshyfop on Jul 21, 2024 13:15:42 GMT 1
We have some fucking odd ball fans. Seeing words like gutted being thrown about if Bojan leaves. He’s scored once yes once for us since January and if Duff has figured him out to be someone who doesn’t buy into his principles then why on earth do we want him here. Gutted? Do me a favour. Still plenty of time left in the window to get a striker in, relax people. Modern football fans for you. Players scores a goal, he's a legend. Players misses a chance, he's a wanker. There's no in between anymore, players can't be average or run of the mill, they're either "class" or "shite". I don't think I've ever been "gutted" to see a player leave, certainly not one that's done the square root of fuck all since he's been here. I’d love to see some average players at Town. That’d be a huge improvement! Agree with Mosher, only ever been gutted about Stewart leaving. Of the current squad, I’d like Helik and Spencer to stay, but wouldn’t be gutted if they left and not bothered about the rest.
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 21, 2024 13:15:49 GMT 1
Modern football fans for you. Players scores a goal, he's a legend. Players misses a chance, he's a wanker. There's no in between anymore, players can't be average or run of the mill, they're either "class" or "shite". I don't think I've ever been "gutted" to see a player leave, certainly not one that's done the square root of fuck all since he's been here. I think the last time I was genuinely "gutted" to see a player leave was Stewie. I was disappointed Mooy, Schinds and some others have left but not "gutted". It's football, players come and go. Huddersfield Town is bigger than any individual. I think people need to grow up if they're gutted about Radulovic leaving.
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