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Post by dezzly on Jul 24, 2024 9:25:46 GMT 1
Joe Taylor would seem to make sense. Looks a similar type of player to Alfie May, but a lot younger. Thought exactly the same when had a quick look at some of his highlights.22 goals across 2 divisions last season too isn’t to be sniffed at.
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Post by Terriersmad on Jul 24, 2024 9:33:10 GMT 1
He's also in Japan - see earlier posts in the thread. He’s done well to have that medical then 😀 Star Trek technology. Beam him up, Scotty!
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Post by duncfost01 on Jul 24, 2024 9:38:52 GMT 1
Is that how it works then ? If your turnover is X you are allowed to spend a percentage of X on players ? Regardless of running costs ? No wonder clubs lose money. It’s like me saying I’ll have that new car and not bother to pay the council tax…. Crap analogy but you get my point. If you listen to the last but one diary, I think, KN answers the question regarding the immediate up front investment. He basically says he is investing now into something that will be of value in the future. It is also important to consider that the stadium is a separate company so choosing to invest in it's maintenance will come from essentially a different pot of cash, although it is all from Mr Nagle's pocket, to that used to run the team. Remember, until Mr Nagle secures the stadium the football club will still be paying into the rental scheme to use it. In that sense FFP has no impact. Moreover in League One if an owner wants to pump money into the team, much like DH did and Birmingham are doing, I understand an owner can do this as long as it doesn't burden the football club with debt. I think there maybe some impact on how finances (losses) are calculated if you are promoted back to the Championship but Ipswich seemed to navigate that. In short Mr Nagle is visibly investing in the stadium. He is also supporting the development of the team, noting the window is around 6 weeks from closing. Those two budgets are separate and I don't think one impacts the other. It's clear Mr Nagle wants the stadium and to improve it overall as it will be a more valuable asset in the future. Additionally it should be a much better place to work, use and visit. I, personally, see that as something wholly positive. The development of the team is obviously more subjective. Many are so desperate, understandably, to see improvement that there is a clamour, and cynicism (NB: this is not directed at you personally), demanding Mr Nagle invests. Last season has left many feeling less than convinced about Mr Nagle's motives and competence. The apparent skittishness, of some, about what Birmingham are doing would bear this out. For me, I am more than happy to let those who are delegated with the task of turning the fortunes on the pitch round to get on with the task in hand. My view is the support from Mr Nagle appears to be there it is down to those responsible to get things right. I don't see investment being an issue, but that doesn't mean that those charged with the task will get it right. Time will tell of course but any failure will surely result in Mr Nagle "kicking ass". Overall there's much to suggest we have turned a corner or are at least in the process of doing so. Hopefully that helps explain the difference between team and stadium investment. Albeit it is only my view of course. I'm sure others will weigh in if they think I have got things wildly wrong. Thanks Dugnet. A very clear and concise reply. Yes I too think that we are making progress in the right direction. I think some on here think it will be easy to get out of league one. It won’t. Despite all Dean Hoyle’s investment it took a bizarre penalty shoot out to do it last time. Here’s hoping for a better season where we start to win some bloody football matches !!!
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Post by dugnet on Jul 24, 2024 9:51:56 GMT 1
If you listen to the last but one diary, I think, KN answers the question regarding the immediate up front investment. He basically says he is investing now into something that will be of value in the future. It is also important to consider that the stadium is a separate company so choosing to invest in it's maintenance will come from essentially a different pot of cash, although it is all from Mr Nagle's pocket, to that used to run the team. Remember, until Mr Nagle secures the stadium the football club will still be paying into the rental scheme to use it. In that sense FFP has no impact. Moreover in League One if an owner wants to pump money into the team, much like DH did and Birmingham are doing, I understand an owner can do this as long as it doesn't burden the football club with debt. I think there maybe some impact on how finances (losses) are calculated if you are promoted back to the Championship but Ipswich seemed to navigate that. In short Mr Nagle is visibly investing in the stadium. He is also supporting the development of the team, noting the window is around 6 weeks from closing. Those two budgets are separate and I don't think one impacts the other. It's clear Mr Nagle wants the stadium and to improve it overall as it will be a more valuable asset in the future. Additionally it should be a much better place to work, use and visit. I, personally, see that as something wholly positive. The development of the team is obviously more subjective. Many are so desperate, understandably, to see improvement that there is a clamour, and cynicism (NB: this is not directed at you personally), demanding Mr Nagle invests. Last season has left many feeling less than convinced about Mr Nagle's motives and competence. The apparent skittishness, of some, about what Birmingham are doing would bear this out. For me, I am more than happy to let those who are delegated with the task of turning the fortunes on the pitch round to get on with the task in hand. My view is the support from Mr Nagle appears to be there it is down to those responsible to get things right. I don't see investment being an issue, but that doesn't mean that those charged with the task will get it right. Time will tell of course but any failure will surely result in Mr Nagle "kicking ass". Overall there's much to suggest we have turned a corner or are at least in the process of doing so. Hopefully that helps explain the difference between team and stadium investment. Albeit it is only my view of course. I'm sure others will weigh in if they think I have got things wildly wrong. Thanks Dugnet. A very clear and concise reply. Yes I too think that we are making progress in the right direction. I think some on here think it will be easy to get out of league one. It won’t. Despite all Dean Hoyle’s investment it took a bizarre penalty shoot out to do it last time. Here’s hoping for a better season where we start to win some bloody football matches !!! NP Dunc - I completely agree with what you say, it won't be easy but, as you say, we do need to see better on the pitch. I don't think Mr Nagle is necessarily the problem so it is down to those he has given the responsibility to. Edwards seems to be doing a good job in running the club as a business so it is down to those responsible for the football. I hope for better and I think it ultimately will be but I wouldn't be surprised if it is a slower burn than most will accept. Interesting times for sure.
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Post by ram on Jul 24, 2024 10:08:55 GMT 1
The money that has been spent on the stadium. We still don’t own the ground so it isn’t a football club asset. How does that work for Kevin then ? Somebody with more business acumen than me can probably answer. Not transfer related I know, well other than we have spent money , and we need money spent on the pitch. Pitch has been relaid Yes. And it made me cringe when I saw who was the 1st to play on it,bloody Giants vs Salford.
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Post by townarentbest on Jul 24, 2024 10:22:47 GMT 1
Only news is that crabs don't like veggie bacon, just found out today when crabbing in Littlehampton with 2 of the grandkids. Never knew veggie bacon was made from grandkids. I'm going carnivore.
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Post by workshyfop on Jul 24, 2024 10:34:52 GMT 1
He's also in Japan - see earlier posts in the thread. He’s done well to have that medical then 😀 That’s how quick he is! Lightning.
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Post by Big Ern on Jul 24, 2024 10:40:42 GMT 1
Linked on twitter with CJ Egan-Riley...no I don't have a clue who he is either
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Post by townarentbest on Jul 24, 2024 10:41:58 GMT 1
That’s assuming we would sell the same number of tickets with a price increase. Based on the fact we have just been relegated, I think that would have been highly unlikely. The info from the club I saw suggested relegation hadnt effected sales much, if at all. So would an extra £1 a week make a big difference? Cant see it myself. Do you think they ended up freezing the price at the last minute for no reason?! *Any* increase combined with relegation would definitely have made a difference, a good number would have made the decision to not renew had the price changed. Do the maths (whilst also remembering not everyone is paying adult prices), there would be next to no practicable difference in ticket revenue in the first season in League 1 after relegation whether tickets were £250, £300, or £400. The difference is one of those price points ends up with a larger captive audience to exploit on matchday and a bigger market for shirts etc. Lose fans coming through the door and its hard to get them back, especially with increased TV exposure even in League 1 compared to the coverage we've had last few seasons. There's a cost associated with that retention, and for this season that means freezing season ticket prices.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 24, 2024 10:42:21 GMT 1
Linked on twitter with CJ Egan-Riley...no I don't have a clue who he is either had a loan spell at Hibs , Burnley's first year back in the champ. Seems not to have made the grade at Burnely, but was highly rated coming through at city.
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Post by Terriersmad on Jul 24, 2024 10:44:58 GMT 1
Linked on twitter with CJ Egan-Riley...no I don't have a clue who he is either Burnley defender, on loan at PSV last season. Didn't play for the first-team, though, and spent his time playing in the second tier in the Netherlands. Previous experience at Hibs. Right-sided by the looks of things. No idea what sort of player he is otherwise.
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Post by irverino on Jul 24, 2024 10:47:16 GMT 1
Looks like the Brummies are ready to hijack another transfer this time from Towns opponents on Monday Aris Limassol who thought the signing of Rangers vice captain/defender Conor Goldson was a done deal. Goldson was meant to be having a medical in Cyprus was spotted boarding a plane with the squad en route to Birmingham yesterday......Brum showing late interest in Wolverhampton born CG after the Cypriots presumed a deal was done.
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Post by Dan on Jul 24, 2024 10:49:59 GMT 1
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Post by teesdaleterrier on Jul 24, 2024 10:51:24 GMT 1
Also that article says he would be our highest paid player
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Post by teesdaleterrier on Jul 24, 2024 10:53:10 GMT 1
And it's the same account that said Koroma was off to Rovrum and Ben Jackson was off to wednesday
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 24, 2024 11:01:10 GMT 1
Transfermarket seem to suggest , tht he can play centre half .
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Post by Terriersmad on Jul 24, 2024 11:06:20 GMT 1
Them again... Sad timewasting bastards.
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Post by brodie81 on Jul 24, 2024 11:07:23 GMT 1
Linked on twitter with CJ Egan-Riley...no I don't have a clue who he is either had a loan spell at Hibs , Burnley's first year back in the champ. Seems not to have made the grade at Burnely, but was highly rated coming through at city. Il ask his dad he's a town man
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Post by rockwall on Jul 24, 2024 11:36:30 GMT 1
Hopefully at least one announcement today judging by desertstorm and dirtyoldtowns comments yesterday.
Would be great to have 1 or 2 in for at least Lecce and Sheff United friendlies.
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Post by The King's Head 1230 on Jul 24, 2024 11:54:50 GMT 1
He’s done well to have that medical then 😀 Star Trek technology. Beam him up, Scotty! It's true spock to him in the Vulcan!
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Post by blueandwhiteterrier on Jul 24, 2024 12:36:53 GMT 1
Is there a rule that says medicals have to be carried out at the club?
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jul 24, 2024 12:41:40 GMT 1
Is there a rule that says medicals have to be carried out at the club? When Warnock was here they were down the pub so I don't think so
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Post by four4two on Jul 24, 2024 12:45:27 GMT 1
theyre 2 separate entities Duncan. One governed by FFP or whatever it’s called now, the other a punt by Kevin. He’ll get the stadium eventually, probably soon. He’s recognised it needs repair and investment. He’s just gone early on it. Is that how it works then ? If your turnover is X you are allowed to spend a percentage of X on players ? Regardless of running costs ? No wonder clubs lose money. It’s like me saying I’ll have that new car and not bother to pay the council tax…. Crap analogy but you get my point. I may be way out but the finance on your new car has nothing to do with the garage you build for it. I’m probably talking crap, but it’s how I see it. Or perhaps you can offset repairs and maintenance of the stadium? I just don’t think what Kevin spends on the stadium impacts FFP ?
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on Jul 24, 2024 12:50:37 GMT 1
Is there a rule that says medicals have to be carried out at the club? not unless it's a Town specific rule.
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Jul 24, 2024 13:19:19 GMT 1
What have I missed in 5 pages [br Nowt
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Jul 24, 2024 13:21:04 GMT 1
Is there a rule that says medicals have to be carried out at the club? Do we do medicals
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Post by mosher on Jul 24, 2024 13:22:16 GMT 1
Is there a rule that says medicals have to be carried out at the club? Do we do medicals Yes. But then completely ignore the result
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Post by arry11 on Jul 24, 2024 13:22:51 GMT 1
Is there a rule that says medicals have to be carried out at the club? Do we do medicals Yes it's just drop and cough and sign here.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 24, 2024 13:23:19 GMT 1
Is there a rule that says medicals have to be carried out at the club? Do we do medicals Of course. We need to make sure they're actually injured before we give them a bumper contract.
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Post by duncfost01 on Jul 24, 2024 13:24:42 GMT 1
Thanks Dugnet. A very clear and concise reply. Yes I too think that we are making progress in the right direction. I think some on here think it will be easy to get out of league one. It won’t. Despite all Dean Hoyle’s investment it took a bizarre penalty shoot out to do it last time. Here’s hoping for a better season where we start to win some bloody football matches !!! NP Dunc - I completely agree with what you say, it won't be easy but, as you say, we do need to see better on the pitch. I don't think Mr Nagle is necessarily the problem so it is down to those he has given the responsibility to. Edwards seems to be doing a good job in running the club as a business so it is down to those responsible for the football. I hope for better and I think it ultimately will be but I wouldn't be surprised if it is a slower burn than most will accept. Interesting times for sure. Hopefully interesting times in a good way. The last few seasons have certainly taken its toll. I guess all I wish for is a plan and not excuses and naivety. Danny Ward needs to start repaying some of that hefty salary. Lord Ward ? More like …. Well I guess he is considering the amount we are paying him… Hopefully I will get to a few more games this year. Living so far away makes it tricky. I did watch every single game live last year though. My wife thinks I’m mad. Anyway it’s a beautiful day in South Shields. I’m taking the dog for a walk and having a pint in the Marsden grotto. A beautiful part of the coast for those that know it. UTT.
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