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Post by supercol23 on Jul 25, 2024 9:46:43 GMT 1
The season is creeping up fast and we still haven't got a striker in, we've lost our only pacy CB to a long term injury, we've still relying on Hogg to anchor the midfield and I still expect some departures. You'd hope we'll see two or three minimum over the next week or so to give the new players time to work with the group before the season starts. That squad needed serious reinforcements and it hasn't happened. Transfer window ends on the 30th August. Plenty of time to make 3 key signings. A striker, centre half, holding midfielder. If we sign any more then it’s a bonus.
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Post by midlander on Jul 25, 2024 9:48:17 GMT 1
The season is creeping up fast and we still haven't got a striker in, we've lost our only pacy CB to a long term injury, we've still relying on Hogg to anchor the midfield and I still expect some departures. You'd hope we'll see two or three minimum over the next week or so to give the new players time to work with the group before the season starts. That squad needed serious reinforcements and it hasn't happened. It did need serious reinforcements but the squad, as it stands, is top heavy. Needs some departures without doubt but that depends on others wanting them. Would expect a striker and midfielder as a minimum but think another CB would be beneficial and then replace any 'key' departures as and when
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 25, 2024 9:52:07 GMT 1
That squad needed serious reinforcements and it hasn't happened. Transfer window ends on the 30th August. Plenty of time to make 3 key signings. A striker, centre half, holding midfielder. If we sign any more then it’s a bonus. Season starts in two weeks.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 25, 2024 9:57:04 GMT 1
The season is creeping up fast and we still haven't got a striker in, we've lost our only pacy CB to a long term injury, we've still relying on Hogg to anchor the midfield and I still expect some departures. You'd hope we'll see two or three minimum over the next week or so to give the new players time to work with the group before the season starts. That squad needed serious reinforcements and it hasn't happened. Although I'm happy with the players we've brought in so far, the key areas have not been addressed. Healey is a decent striker when fit, but who's going to partner him in a 352? What happens if he gets injured? Ward and Koroma leading the line? Hogg is way passed his best and we need legs in the no.6 role. Our CBs are so slow with no balance on the left side either. I was expecting an aggressive transfer window but it hasn't happened as yet. Still time, but it's ticking down fast.
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 25, 2024 9:59:00 GMT 1
That squad needed serious reinforcements and it hasn't happened. Although I'm happy with the players we've brought in so far, the key areas have not been addressed. Healey is a decent striker when fit, but who's going to partner him in a 352? What happens if he gets injured? Ward and Koroma leading the line? Hogg is way passed his best and we need legs in the no.6 role. Our CBs are so slow with no balance on the left side either. I was expecting an aggressive transfer window but it hasn't happened as yet. Still time, but it's ticking down fast. The thought of seeing Danny Ward up front next season is seriously depressing.
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Post by Up the Duff. on Jul 25, 2024 10:07:00 GMT 1
Although I'm happy with the players we've brought in so far, the key areas have not been addressed. Healey is a decent striker when fit, but who's going to partner him in a 352? What happens if he gets injured? Ward and Koroma leading the line? Hogg is way passed his best and we need legs in the no.6 role. Our CBs are so slow with no balance on the left side either. I was expecting an aggressive transfer window but it hasn't happened as yet. Still time, but it's ticking down fast. The thought of seeing Danny Ward up front next season is seriously depressing. I can't see any way that Ward is not still at the club next season. I expect he will be our 3rd choice striker though.. new signing plus Healey to be first choice.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jul 25, 2024 10:10:04 GMT 1
Although I'm happy with the players we've brought in so far, the key areas have not been addressed. Healey is a decent striker when fit, but who's going to partner him in a 352? What happens if he gets injured? Ward and Koroma leading the line? Hogg is way passed his best and we need legs in the no.6 role. Our CBs are so slow with no balance on the left side either. I was expecting an aggressive transfer window but it hasn't happened as yet. Still time, but it's ticking down fast. The thought of seeing Danny Ward up front next season is seriously depressing. The thought of Ward playing whilst being somewhat disinterested is more depressing..😔
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Post by Convictatthemac on Jul 25, 2024 10:23:59 GMT 1
The thought of seeing Danny Ward up front next season is seriously depressing. The thought of Ward playing whilst being somewhat disinterested is more depressing..😔 Ward will be injured, he doesn’t play when he doesn’t want to.
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Post by Big Ern on Jul 25, 2024 10:28:17 GMT 1
That squad needed serious reinforcements and it hasn't happened. Transfer window ends on the 30th August. Plenty of time to make 3 key signings. A striker, centre half, holding midfielder. If we sign any more then it’s a bonus. Annoys me when people say this. There are matches to be played in August and we can't afford to start the season off on a bad foot
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Post by Convictatthemac on Jul 25, 2024 10:29:39 GMT 1
Transfer window ends on the 30th August. Plenty of time to make 3 key signings. A striker, centre half, holding midfielder. If we sign any more then it’s a bonus. Annoys me when people say this. There are matches to be played in August and we can't afford to start the season off on a bad foot Very important to get a winning start to shake the losing mentality.
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Post by bluewhitesapper on Jul 25, 2024 10:35:08 GMT 1
Transfer window ends on the 30th August. Plenty of time to make 3 key signings. A striker, centre half, holding midfielder. If we sign any more then it’s a bonus. Annoys me when people say this. There are matches to be played in August and we can't afford to start the season off on a bad foot I was just typing out the same response, the Season starts in just over the week, if we are wanting to be a promotion chasing squad we need to hit the group running. Signings made towards the back end of August wont likely be ready to play our system for another few weeks so you are looking at mid September (18 already played for). I understand how the transfer markets work and so movement wont happen until the end of the window, but with a just over a week to go the squad has some glaring hole left to fill without any departures from the current squad.
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Post by Orinoco on Jul 25, 2024 10:35:15 GMT 1
That squad needed serious reinforcements and it hasn't happened. Transfer window ends on the 30th August. Plenty of time to make 3 key signings. A striker, centre half, holding midfielder. If we sign any more then it’s a bonus. I saw a list on a facebook group it was a thead on squad sizes, Town were top.with a squad of 31, i don't know whether these figures were true or not, we still have a lot of dross under contract that need ridding every fan knows that is true, a lot of hard work ahead for the recruitment department
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Post by teesdaleterrier on Jul 25, 2024 10:41:05 GMT 1
I can't help but feeling, and I hate sounding negative, that a lot of our problems in terms of players who haven't been good enough for some time now, remain.
People seem to have forgot we have looked poor for a long time and dropping a division doesn't change that fact. We would be incredibly arrogant to think we will do well in this division just because we used to be in the one higher up. We haven't moved on players who we needed to, we haven't seen the type of squad overhaul we all were crying out for (not saying that isn't through lack of trying) and we have brought in a handful of promising players who have probably improved us, but have we improved enough in the areas we needed to, to make us start with our chests puffed out? Not yet in my view and I know time remains before the season starts, but we wanted this work done early, I'm sure it was on record as such, and it just doesn't feel like that's been achieved.
Again, not saying it hasn't been without trying as these things aren't as easy as clicking fingers and casting a hogwarts spell, but I do feel like the plan hasn't gone as it should have done (we know Brum had a hand in that in the May deal). The fact we haven't even announced squad numbers yet when, upon looking back we have done far earlier than this point, says it all really. We are not at the stage we wanted to be in terms of squad finalisation.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Jul 25, 2024 10:52:53 GMT 1
That squad needed serious reinforcements and it hasn't happened. Although I'm happy with the players we've brought in so far, the key areas have not been addressed. The key area was the middle of the park. We've bought 2 centre mids and looks like a third is joining him. We were going to spend good money on May as a striker, got gazumped, now it sounds like we're getting an alternative. I get the concerns, and we're a few good players away from a squad I'd be comfortable with, but unfortunately it's a trading market and not a game of Football Manager. We're operating to a budget and against other clubs - we won't be able to sign everyone we want when we want them. We also might be reliant on shifting one or two out before we can replace them.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jul 25, 2024 10:56:38 GMT 1
I can't help but feeling, and I hate sounding negative, that a lot of our problems in terms of players who haven't been good enough for some time now, remain. People seem to have forgot we have looked poor for a long time and dropping a division doesn't change that fact. We would be incredibly arrogant to think we will do well in this division just because we used to be in the one higher up. We haven't moved on players who we needed to, we haven't seen the type of squad overhaul we all were crying out for (not saying that isn't through lack of trying) and we have brought in a handful of promising players who have probably improved us, but have we improved enough in the areas we needed to, to make us start with our chests puffed out? Not yet in my view and I know time remains before the season starts, but we wanted this work done early, I'm sure it was on record as such, and it just doesn't feel like that's been achieved. Again, not saying it hasn't been without trying as these things aren't as easy as clicking fingers and casting a hogwarts spell, but I do feel like the plan hasn't gone as it should have done (we know Brum had a hand in that in the May deal). Id sày we are a central defender, one holder and a striker away from being a very competetive team in the division. Failing that I know we have players here who CAN play , I have seen them do it, but not often enough. Can Duff get a system and a squad that plays more often?? The key being can he? If he can we can still be highly competetive. 2 poor seasons has highlighted many things across the squad which can change like a light switch if the training, the approach, the mindset all change. Im still a believer in that often its not who is playing but how they are thinking and believing in how they are playing..
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Post by duncfost01 on Jul 25, 2024 11:27:37 GMT 1
I can't help but feeling, and I hate sounding negative, that a lot of our problems in terms of players who haven't been good enough for some time now, remain. People seem to have forgot we have looked poor for a long time and dropping a division doesn't change that fact. We would be incredibly arrogant to think we will do well in this division just because we used to be in the one higher up. We haven't moved on players who we needed to, we haven't seen the type of squad overhaul we all were crying out for (not saying that isn't through lack of trying) and we have brought in a handful of promising players who have probably improved us, but have we improved enough in the areas we needed to, to make us start with our chests puffed out? Not yet in my view and I know time remains before the season starts, but we wanted this work done early, I'm sure it was on record as such, and it just doesn't feel like that's been achieved. Again, not saying it hasn't been without trying as these things aren't as easy as clicking fingers and casting a hogwarts spell, but I do feel like the plan hasn't gone as it should have done (we know Brum had a hand in that in the May deal). Id sày we are a central defender, one holder and a striker away from being a very competetive team in the division. Failing that I know we have players here who CAN play , I have seen them do it, but not often enough. Can Duff get a system and a squad that plays more often?? The key being can he? If he can we can still be highly competetive. 2 poor seasons has highlighted many things across the squad which can change like a light switch if the training, the approach, the mindset all change. Im still a believer in that often its not who is playing but how they are thinking and believing in how they are playing.. Kevin Nagle believes we are well stocked in the defensive department.
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Post by dezzly on Jul 25, 2024 11:36:19 GMT 1
Id sày we are a central defender, one holder and a striker away from being a very competetive team in the division. Failing that I know we have players here who CAN play , I have seen them do it, but not often enough. Can Duff get a system and a squad that plays more often?? The key being can he? If he can we can still be highly competetive. 2 poor seasons has highlighted many things across the squad which can change like a light switch if the training, the approach, the mindset all change. Im still a believer in that often its not who is playing but how they are thinking and believing in how they are playing.. Kevin Nagle believes we are well stocked in the defensive department. If you listen to the short duff interview with chicken yesterday he’s basically saying the same thing. Essentially says we’re that well stocked there that even if they aren’t all necessarily suitable for exactly how he would want to play that he has to find ways round that. If you go off that alone I’d suggest we won’t be signing a centre half,unless we lose another. I think in the majority of games we’ll go with Helik central and Spencer one side and either Ruffels or turton the other. That may change against stronger teams when they opt for a more “defensive” setup and lees and Pearson come in and wing backs are slightly more defensive.
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Post by crux on Jul 25, 2024 11:38:11 GMT 1
Id sày we are a central defender, one holder and a striker away from being a very competetive team in the division. Failing that I know we have players here who CAN play , I have seen them do it, but not often enough. Can Duff get a system and a squad that plays more often?? The key being can he? If he can we can still be highly competetive. 2 poor seasons has highlighted many things across the squad which can change like a light switch if the training, the approach, the mindset all change. Im still a believer in that often its not who is playing but how they are thinking and believing in how they are playing.. Kevin Nagle believes we are well stocked in the defensive department. I don't think anyone can disagree that we're 'well stocked' in the defensive department. It's just probably not the right stock, or not enough of the younger, faster, left stock to be more precise!
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 25, 2024 11:39:02 GMT 1
Kevin Nagle believes we are well stocked in the defensive department. If you listen to the short duff interview with chicken yesterday he’s basically saying the same thing. Essentially says we’re that well stocked there that even if they aren’t all necessarily suitable for exactly how he would want to play that he has to find ways round that. If you go off that alone I’d suggest we won’t be signing a centre half,unless we lose another. I think in the majority of games we’ll go with Helik central and Spencer one side and either Ruffels or turton the other. That may change against stronger teams when they opt for a more “defensive” setup and lees and Pearson come in and wing backs are slightly more defensive. Nice. Shoehorning fullbacks into a CB role. What could go wrong?
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 25, 2024 11:39:47 GMT 1
If you listen to the short duff interview with chicken yesterday he’s basically saying the same thing. Essentially says we’re that well stocked there that even if they aren’t all necessarily suitable for exactly how he would want to play that he has to find ways round that. If you go off that alone I’d suggest we won’t be signing a centre half,unless we lose another. I think in the majority of games we’ll go with Helik central and Spencer one side and either Ruffels or turton the other. That may change against stronger teams when they opt for a more “defensive” setup and lees and Pearson come in and wing backs are slightly more defensive. Nice. Shoehorning fullbacks into a CB role. What could go wrong? Why not just sign a centre-half?
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Post by diakhabydaily on Jul 25, 2024 11:41:09 GMT 1
If you listen to the short duff interview with chicken yesterday he’s basically saying the same thing. Essentially says we’re that well stocked there that even if they aren’t all necessarily suitable for exactly how he would want to play that he has to find ways round that. If you go off that alone I’d suggest we won’t be signing a centre half,unless we lose another. I think in the majority of games we’ll go with Helik central and Spencer one side and either Ruffels or turton the other. That may change against stronger teams when they opt for a more “defensive” setup and lees and Pearson come in and wing backs are slightly more defensive. Nice. Shoehorning fullbacks into a CB role. What could go wrong? Maybe we'll see Eccleston playing a bit more. He's rapid, looked good versus Harrogate.
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 25, 2024 11:43:02 GMT 1
Kevin Nagle believes we are well stocked in the defensive department. I don't think anyone can disagree that we're 'well stocked' in the defensive department. It's just probably not the right stock, or not enough of the younger, faster, left stock to be more precise! Shame most of those defenders aren't very good. Ollie Turton is average, Josh Ruffels is less than average, Jaheim Headley ain't a defender and Ben 'There's definitely a player in there' Jackson is shite. Plus, Balker spends more time in the treatment room than he does on the pitch and both Pearson and Lees, while they are good defenders, are slow as owt and Lees has got bad knees. We need reinforcements.
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Post by dezzly on Jul 25, 2024 11:45:11 GMT 1
If you listen to the short duff interview with chicken yesterday he’s basically saying the same thing. Essentially says we’re that well stocked there that even if they aren’t all necessarily suitable for exactly how he would want to play that he has to find ways round that. If you go off that alone I’d suggest we won’t be signing a centre half,unless we lose another. I think in the majority of games we’ll go with Helik central and Spencer one side and either Ruffels or turton the other. That may change against stronger teams when they opt for a more “defensive” setup and lees and Pearson come in and wing backs are slightly more defensive. Nice. Shoehorning fullbacks into a CB role. What could go wrong? That’s something else he said,the wide centre backs if they are naturally full backs it’s a positive that they are comfortable in wide areas.Which he said is what you want if you are on the front foot been aggressive and attacking with high wing backs.There’s a trade off with maybe how good they are maybe in the air in the box etc.But I think the thinking will be in games we should dominate,which he will hope is the majority,the converted full backs are a good option as wide centre halves. But that’s also why I suggested that maybe against the likes of a Birmingham,who it could be said may dominate the play against us,or at least have more quality we may opt for more of a flat 5 when out of possession and that the wider centre halves would be more “defenders” ie lees/Pearson as they are better protected in said flat 5.Makes sense to me to be honest. I’d rather we went and bought someone who’s big,quick,strong,comfortable coming out wide and can play on the ball but those players are playing in the prem/top end champ.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jul 25, 2024 11:51:37 GMT 1
I don't think anyone can disagree that we're 'well stocked' in the defensive department. It's just probably not the right stock, or not enough of the younger, faster, left stock to be more precise! Shame most of those defenders aren't very good. Ollie Turton is average, Josh Ruffels is less than average, Jaheim Headley ain't a defender and Ben 'There's definitely a player in there' Jackson is shite. Plus, Balker spends more time in the treatment room than he does on the pitch and both Pearson and Lees, while they are good defenders, are slow as owt and Lees has got bad knees. We need reinforcements. My post was in the knowledge we have players here who will have to play because the dream scenario of moving a number on for decent or even good money is not going to materialise. I have seen them play well even over the last two shit seasons, so there are footballers in there. As I said often its how they are asked to play, how the tactics suit them, how good the mindset is and the motivation from the coach, but probably more important is the team strength and spirit. We watched this dissapate and dissapear over the last two seasons and unfortunately other than Warnock for a few games, not all by any means, could get enough of it back. Duff now gets his go.. The defensive side might be far less obvious if we have the ball further up the pitch far more often for far longer?? As I said its not whos playing but how we are playing that matters a lot of the time.
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Post by crux on Jul 25, 2024 11:52:54 GMT 1
Nice. Shoehorning fullbacks into a CB role. What could go wrong? Why not just sign a centre-half? The problem/issue is, playing 3-5-2 the back 3 can't all be 'bog standard' centre halves. Ideally at least one will be, one will be OK drifting out to full-back and at least one will be good enough to bring the ball out. It's why the Helik, Spencer, Balker looked OK- even better if either Balker or Spencer had been left footed. I would be looking for a new defender though. We need to replace Lees & Pearson, if not now then before next season. We also need someone to organise the defenders on the pitch. Despite the experience of Lees, Pearson, Helik & Hogg there is a distinct lack of organisational leadership defensively on the pitch. Hopefully Duff's experience will ingrain better practices in the players, but we still need leaders on the pitch once the game starts.
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Post by teesdaleterrier on Jul 25, 2024 12:05:03 GMT 1
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Post by teesdaleterrier on Jul 25, 2024 12:07:46 GMT 1
Looks to be being reported by a l'equipe journo
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Post by ldotm on Jul 25, 2024 12:08:34 GMT 1
Does that say on loan?
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Post by teesdaleterrier on Jul 25, 2024 12:08:58 GMT 1
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Post by ldotm on Jul 25, 2024 12:11:10 GMT 1
Does it mention a loan fee or guaranteed purchase at the end of the season? If not that’s a crazy deal from us, but would just show our desire to get rid of him
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