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Post by ringdisco on Jul 27, 2024 16:08:31 GMT 1
There is a difference between achieving relegation, and relegation occurring under his watch. He was in charge when we got relegated. That's a fact. But he'll balance that out this season with promotion, and maybe even the title. Title? Do you know something we don't? Are we signing 8 more players of Championship quality? Otherwise it's Birmingham's title.
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Post by mids on Jul 27, 2024 16:09:45 GMT 1
He was in charge when we got relegated. That's a fact. But he'll balance that out this season with promotion, and maybe even the title. Title? Do you know something we don't? Are we signing 8 more players of Championship quality? Otherwise it's Birmingham's title. Not necessarily. Birmingham are always an accident waiting to happen.
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Post by blueandwhiteterrier on Jul 27, 2024 16:28:05 GMT 1
He got us Relegated in his first season in charge!! You want us to celebrate that??? He,s done fook all compared to what Dean hoyle has done for the club so stop talking absolute bullshit!! It was a bit of a stupid post i don't have any issues with both men just looking forward to see the team improve and get back the winning feeling. Someone was talking smack about him and all I was doing was defending him. I'm sorry you think it was a stupid post. I will keep my opinions to myself in future. Terribly sorry.
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Post by arry11 on Jul 27, 2024 16:36:32 GMT 1
It was a bit of a stupid post i don't have any issues with both men just looking forward to see the team improve and get back the winning feeling. Someone was talking smack about him and all I was doing was defending him. I'm sorry you think it was a stupid post. I will keep my opinions to myself in future. Terribly sorry. No problem with you defending KN it was the analogy of comparing him with DH that was not needed.
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Post by Big Ern on Jul 27, 2024 17:01:45 GMT 1
I mentioned the lack of signings compared to what was stated last year by KN but in no way am I against him. Completely the opposite in fact, I think what he has done and co tunes to do is great.
It's a fact that we need more quality though, not a criticism.
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Post by kirkheatonterrier on Jul 27, 2024 17:46:59 GMT 1
Sorry, but for me the jury is still out on Nagle. In his first full season he has achieved 1 relegation and overseen a terrible January transfer window. All hot air so far. We need some positive signings and a good start to the season
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Post by desertstorm on Jul 27, 2024 17:56:47 GMT 1
Sorry, but for me the jury is still out on Nagle. In his first full season he has achieved 1 relegation and overseen a terrible January transfer window. All hot air so far. We need some positive signings and a good start to the season He’s certainly putting his money where his mouth is on the infrastructure of the club, let me tell you. And more than any chairman in most recent times. Sit back and enjoy the ride! It’s not over… by a long chalk.
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Post by duncfost01 on Jul 27, 2024 17:59:01 GMT 1
Team will be much fitter this year.
We are not done in the transfer market.
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Post by bentley316 on Jul 27, 2024 18:00:44 GMT 1
Title? Do you know something we don't? Are we signing 8 more players of Championship quality? Otherwise it's Birmingham's title. Not necessarily. Birmingham are always an accident waiting to happen. Id love odds of Birmingham sacking their manager while in the play off places and replacing him with Frank Lampard who absolutely tanks their season.
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Post by htafcdan on Jul 27, 2024 18:07:27 GMT 1
Sorry, but for me the jury is still out on Nagle. In his first full season he has achieved 1 relegation and overseen a terrible January transfer window. All hot air so far. We need some positive signings and a good start to the season how is signing arguably the best right back in the league last season and two of the best midfielders in the league not positive? genuinely wondering not trying to be an arse😅
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Post by htfcterry on Jul 27, 2024 18:09:58 GMT 1
Sorry, but for me the jury is still out on Nagle. In his first full season he has achieved 1 relegation and overseen a terrible January transfer window. All hot air so far. We need some positive signings and a good start to the season He’s certainly putting his money where his mouth is on the infrastructure of the club, let me tell you. And more than any chairman in most recent times. Sit back and enjoy the ride! It’s not over… by a long chalk. I feel like it's 2017 again.
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Post by FloridaTerrier on Jul 27, 2024 18:10:33 GMT 1
As much as I agree with 2 of the better midfielders, and right back situation.
We still haven't addressed our striker department and our limited lack of pace at the back scenario (take Spencer out the equation, and Balker injury).
I don't want us to have another season, where were calling for the same things again in January, and then again the following summer.
We're realistically 3-4 good signings and couple more outgoings (not our critical/key players) from having a very good potentially successful window. I don't want us to be short again.
Promotion or Bust. Throw the kitchen sink at it.
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Post by nickhtafc82 on Jul 27, 2024 18:14:35 GMT 1
Sorry, but for me the jury is still out on Nagle. In his first full season he has achieved 1 relegation and overseen a terrible January transfer window. All hot air so far. We need some positive signings and a good start to the season He’s certainly putting his money where his mouth is on the infrastructure of the club, let me tell you. And more than any chairman in most recent times. Sit back and enjoy the ride! It’s not over… by a long chalk. The stadium development was desperately needed and much appreciated. We live in hope it will be ours soon. Can't believe our dressing room was as bad as it was ... Im sure everyone at the club is acutely aware of what the squad needs. I'm not panicking yet. Would have been great to have got all the signings in for Austria, but life's not always like that. Not really interested in what Birmingham are doing. Splashing cash means nothing and it's tantamount to w1lly waving in my eyes. Yes we desperately need a goalscorer, probably 2 and they dont come cheap. We also need a CB with some pace, we can't rely on Spencer on his own. Let's concentrate on us and getting behind whoever is on the pitch at Peterborough.
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Post by bluesandtwos on Jul 27, 2024 18:19:42 GMT 1
As much as I agree with 2 of the better midfielders, and right back situation. We still haven't addressed our striker department and our limited lack of pace at the back scenario (take Spencer out the equation, and Balker injury). I don't want us to have another season, where were calling for the same things again in January, and then again the following summer. We're realistically 3-4 good signings and couple more outgoings (not our critical/key players) from having a very good potentially successful window. I don't want us to be short again. Promotion or Bust. Throw the kitchen sink at it. It has to be the right player though and that doesn't, neccessarily, mean the most expensive out there. It could be a loan player or one weighing up his options. We will just have to be patient. The ones brought in so far look pretty good.
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Post by stinkypete on Jul 27, 2024 18:27:33 GMT 1
The amount of shit Nagle gets on here astounds me. He has already done more for the club then Hoyle did in his first year. Differing opinions I get that. But give the man a chance. Yeah but “Deano” once celebrated on the pitch wearing a wig!!!
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Post by Metch on Jul 27, 2024 18:56:27 GMT 1
The amount of shit Nagle gets on here astounds me. He has already done more for the club then Hoyle did in his first year. Differing opinions I get that. But give the man a chance. Firstly, I don't think he gets alot of shit but he has yet to deliver on the football pitch. Hoyle didn't get us relegated in his first season. Nagle allowed his appointees to make some incredibly poor decisions last year. I really hope we've turned a corner but I think we have alot of deadwood to shift and I'm yet to be convinced our recruitment network is as good as other comparable clubs. Heavily reliant on Stoke and the knowledge of Duff. Let's see what next month brings, but for me, the jury is still out.
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Post by Kenny irons on Jul 27, 2024 19:41:59 GMT 1
The loan striker we want We are having to wait until his parent club brings in another striker before they let him go
No idea on the name sorry
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Post by Up the Duff. on Jul 27, 2024 19:47:07 GMT 1
The loan striker we want We are having to wait until his parent club brings in another striker before they let him go No idea on the name sorry 🤣😂😅👏👏👏
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Post by Next Manager coming soon on Jul 27, 2024 19:50:59 GMT 1
The loan striker we want We are having to wait until his parent club brings in another striker before they let him go No idea on the name sorry 🤣😂😅👏👏👏 Careful. I called out Kenny before and got a load of abuse from people who presumably haven’t been on here long.
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Post by richhtfc on Jul 27, 2024 20:12:06 GMT 1
We need Kasumu and think in league 1 he will be fine. Any money we spend now needs to be spent on the front five . It will be there where we pick up extra points. It’s where we lack quality. A striker and a Sorba replacement. That’s the two I think Nagle was referring too. Not sure players who struggle to pass 5 yards are going to be that critical if we are aiming to go up. I know there’s plenty that think Kasumu is a decent player, don’t see it myself. Think he’s absolutely dreadful. His fitness is unquestionable, he is physically excellent. From what I’ve seen (and maybe it’s better behind closed doors) his ball control and game awareness is woeful. He’s also been with us two years already which suggests to me it’s a punt that’s failed. Good luck and move on for me.
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 27, 2024 20:28:14 GMT 1
The amount of shit Nagle gets on here astounds me. He has already done more for the club then Hoyle did in his first year. Differing opinions I get that. But give the man a chance. "Already done more for the club than Hoyle did in his first year"? Are you seriously suggesting that Nagle has done more than a chairman that dragged us from League One mediocrity and made us an established Championship club with a brief spell in the Premier League? Seriously?
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Post by four4two on Jul 27, 2024 20:44:32 GMT 1
The amount of shit Nagle gets on here astounds me. He has already done more for the club than Hoyle did in his first year. Differing opinions I get that. But give the man a chance. "Already done more for the club than Hoyle did in his first year"? Are you seriously suggesting that Nagle has done more than a chairman that dragged us from League One mediocrity and made us an established Championship club with a brief spell in the Premier League? Seriously? differing opinions. I thought you were into that?
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 27, 2024 20:48:15 GMT 1
"Already done more for the club than Hoyle did in his first year"? Are you seriously suggesting that Nagle has done more than a chairman that dragged us from League One mediocrity and made us an established Championship club with a brief spell in the Premier League? Seriously? differing opinions. I thought you were into that? I knew you'd pipe up. How has Nagle done more than the two promotions that Hoyle oversaw?
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Post by four4two on Jul 27, 2024 21:11:53 GMT 1
differing opinions. I thought you were into that? I knew you'd pipe up. How has Nagle done more than the two promotions that Hoyle oversaw? never suggested he had but surely you can accept that there is a differing opinion to your own. Then again…
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 27, 2024 21:14:01 GMT 1
I knew you'd pipe up. How has Nagle done more than the two promotions that Hoyle oversaw? never suggested he had but surely you can accept that there is a differing opinion to your own. Then again… I accept there's different opinions, even if that opinion is fucking ridiculous.
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 27, 2024 21:18:05 GMT 1
So he’ll be back here again come July then Depends which plane he gets. ? Sorry, bad taste I know... Ouch!
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 27, 2024 22:04:24 GMT 1
We need Kasumu and think in league 1 he will be fine. Any money we spend now needs to be spent on the front five . It will be there where we pick up extra points. It’s where we lack quality. A striker and a Sorba replacement. That’s the two I think Nagle was referring too. We most definitely don’t need Kasumu If we don;t have him we'll need a replacement though. 36 year old Hogg would be our only defensive midfielder, and Kasumu can carry the ball forward better than anyone else in the squad. It would also leave our midfield without anyone remotely pacey. DK has his limitations but for me he's one of the first names on the teamsheet.
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Post by htfcfcfc on Jul 27, 2024 22:08:27 GMT 1
Didn’t we sign Kasumu based on impressing in League 1? In which case I’m surprised he seems to be being considered a weak point without seeing him play where he has impressed before
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Post by htafcdreams on Jul 27, 2024 22:23:17 GMT 1
I just ignore last season. The purchase was late summer, financial restrictions, we made every mistake in the book from management changes, to players let go, to recruiting, the hype, 3 yr prem plan, light shows to bam bam sticks.
Forget it all. It was a massive learning curve for Kevin.
So with that mind, the stadium upgrades is a positive, frozen season tickets, some signings, experienced L1 manager..things are moving in a positive direction
Yep we need more quality through the door and think it’ll come towards the back end of the transfer window
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 27, 2024 22:26:30 GMT 1
if we start this season without a new recognised striker we will be hamstrung from the start. Not sure I agree with that. If we don't have a new striker once the deadline closes then I'd agree, but if we line up with (say) Koroma & Healey vs Peterborough, and Ward & Harratt vs Morecambe I'm ok with that. We'll need more as the season progresses but if we can't take at least 6 points before the deadline closes I'll be disappointed (and losing both away games is not outside the realms of possibility even if we got all our signings done a month ago). For me, we're 4 players away from being automatic promotion challengers. If all 4 of those players come in on transfer deadline day I'll still be confident.
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