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Post by mosher on Aug 2, 2024 14:09:49 GMT 1
Marks out of ten for the transfer window. A month ago I would have said 8. Now it’s a 6. Sorba needs replacing. Helik as well probably. I think he is probably going which would be a blow. Also a striker. Tick tock Cartwright. Truth be told I think it's been pretty naff. Just over a week away from the first game of the season and we have lost 2 key players and brought in 4 when we needed a total gutting. The players we have brought in look decent but we have been embarrassed by Birmingham and seem utterly toothless at the minute. 4 out of 10 for me which ironically reflects the number we have brought in. Behave, how have we been embarrassed by them? They overpaid on wages for him, but only because they've got some dodgy sponsorship deals, have bigger revenue streams than us (at the moment) and have wealthier owners than us. If they fail to get promoted (unlikely IMO though that is) they'll be screwed on FFP (or whatever it's called in league one) because we relegated teams only get one season's leeway then we're on the same playing field finance-wise as every other club in the division.
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 2, 2024 14:13:33 GMT 1
Truth be told I think it's been pretty naff. Just over a week away from the first game of the season and we have lost 2 key players and brought in 4 when we needed a total gutting. The players we have brought in look decent but we have been embarrassed by Birmingham and seem utterly toothless at the minute. 4 out of 10 for me which ironically reflects the number we have brought in. Behave, how have we been embarrassed by them? They overpaid on wages for him, but only because they've got some dodgy sponsorship deals, have bigger revenue streams than us (at the moment) and have wealthier owners than us. If they fail to get promoted (unlikely IMO though that is) they'll be screwed on FFP (or whatever it's called in league one) because we relegated teams only get one season's leeway then we're on the same playing field finance-wise as every other club in the division. "Snowflake Town fans at it again".
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Post by TTCMatt on Aug 2, 2024 14:15:46 GMT 1
It was Neil Warnock's decision to extend the contracts of Ward, Koroma and Ruffels etc. However, I wouldn't worry about Ward's wages and the nonsense a few people have put about them on twitter. Wardy has gone from being one of the higher paid players from when Phil H introduced a 10k pw ceiling to now being one of the lower paid senior players. Koroma on the other hand got a bit of a bump. To be honest whether Ward is on 10k a week or 5k a week it’s a piss poor return on investment. I just wanted to clarify that those tweets suggesting Ward is on over 20k pw are completely wrong and ludicrous. Although on the subject of investment: Since relegation from the PL we've signed the following strikers: Fraizer Campbell - free Danny Ward - free Oumar Niasse - free Yaya Sanogo - free Kieran Phillips - free Jordan Rhodes - free Mipo Obudeko - loan Florian Kamberi - free Martyn Waghorn - loan Kyle Hudlin - small fee with unachieved add ons (so far) Tyreece Simpson - few hundred k with unachieved add ons Then in January we finally spent money on a 1st team striker in Rhys Healey and Bojan Radulovic. People can either point fingers at Danny Ward or they can accept or question the chronic lack of investment by previous owners in this area meaning that the best we could attract financially was Danny Ward. Thankfully Kevin Nagle seems willing to put money into the forward areas so we should be having different types of discussions now moving forward.
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Post by Big Ern on Aug 2, 2024 14:16:35 GMT 1
Behave, how have we been embarrassed by them? They overpaid on wages for him, but only because they've got some dodgy sponsorship deals, have bigger revenue streams than us (at the moment) and have wealthier owners than us. If they fail to get promoted (unlikely IMO though that is) they'll be screwed on FFP (or whatever it's called in league one) because we relegated teams only get one season's leeway then we're on the same playing field finance-wise as every other club in the division. "Snowflake Town fans at it again". Next time I see you running to the side of the pitch with your dad to slag the players off during a match I'll remind you of that one
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Aug 2, 2024 14:18:22 GMT 1
To be honest whether Ward is on 10k a week or 5k a week it’s a piss poor return on investment. I just wanted to clarify that those tweets suggesting Ward is on over 20k pw are completely wrong and ludicrous. Although on the subject of investment: Since relegation from the PL we've signed the following strikers: Fraizer Campbell - free Danny Ward - free Oumar Niasse - free Yaya Sanogo - free Kieran Phillips - free Jordan Rhodes - free Mipo Obudeko - loan Florian Kamberi - free Martyn Waghorn - loan Kyle Hudlin - small fee with unachieved add ons (so far) Tyreece Simpson - few hundred k with unachieved add ons Then in January we finally spent money on a 1st team striker in Rhys Healey and Bojan Radulovic. People can either point fingers at Danny Ward or they can accept or question the chronic lack of investment by previous owners in this area meaning that the best we could attract financially was Danny Ward. Thankfully Kevin Nagle seems willing to put money into the forward areas so we should be having different types of discussions now moving forward. That's a shocking reflection and worse still when you think we got good fees for both Grant and Mounie
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Post by leroy212 on Aug 2, 2024 14:18:32 GMT 1
The sad realisation that we are a 3rd tier club... and can't compete with other 3rd tier clubs for players.My hopes and dreams of a new dawn at HTAFC with the arrival of millionaire American owner are fading fast...One year at the helm and we're relegated ...back to obscurity, oblivion and Shrewsbury Town.. Somebody cheer me up.. I mean we have literally signed some team of the year players from other 3rd tier clubs. We basically can't (or won't) compete with Birmingham because they're behaving like absolute head cases. Other than that, we will be the next best option for most players. thats stupid odds to be top scorer, id definitely take a punt on that
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Post by htafc1045 on Aug 2, 2024 14:21:45 GMT 1
I think plenty complained. Yes and we were told to stop being negative and that he'd be brilliant under Warnock. Please stop trying to put words in people’s mouth. People complained when his contract was extended, even Warnock can make mistakes you know.
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Post by pinstripe on Aug 2, 2024 14:22:54 GMT 1
To be honest whether Ward is on 10k a week or 5k a week it’s a piss poor return on investment. I just wanted to clarify that those tweets suggesting Ward is on over 20k pw are completely wrong and ludicrous. Although on the subject of investment: Since relegation from the PL we've signed the following strikers: Fraizer Campbell - free Danny Ward - free Oumar Niasse - free Yaya Sanogo - free Kieran Phillips - free Jordan Rhodes - free Mipo Obudeko - loan Florian Kamberi - free Martyn Waghorn - loan Kyle Hudlin - small fee with unachieved add ons (so far) Tyreece Simpson - few hundred k with unachieved add ons Then in January we finally spent money on a 1st team striker in Rhys Healey and Bojan Radulovic. People can either point fingers at Danny Ward or they can accept or question the chronic lack of investment by previous owners in this area meaning that the best we could attract financially was Danny Ward. Thankfully Kevin Nagle seems willing to put money into the forward areas so we should be having different types of discussions now moving forward. I don’t know how to embolden things but ‘should be having different discussions now moving forward’ really gave me a chuckle
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 2, 2024 14:23:21 GMT 1
"Snowflake Town fans at it again". Next time I see you running to the side of the pitch with your dad to slag the players off during a match I'll remind you of that one Make yourself known next time and you can say everything you say on here to my face. Your hypocrisy is hilarious though, I'll give you that. *And don't let the truth get in the way of a good yarn. I walked down at the end of the Swansea game and told the players exactly what I thought of them alongside about 20 other people. I haven't run anywhere since I was about 14.
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 2, 2024 14:23:51 GMT 1
Yes and we were told to stop being negative and that he'd be brilliant under Warnock. Please stop trying to put words in people’s mouth. People complained when his contract was extended, even Warnock can make mistakes you know. I'm just relaying what was said to me at the time.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Aug 2, 2024 14:25:39 GMT 1
Truth be told I think it's been pretty naff. Just over a week away from the first game of the season and we have lost 2 key players and brought in 4 when we needed a total gutting. The players we have brought in look decent but we have been embarrassed by Birmingham and seem utterly toothless at the minute. 4 out of 10 for me which ironically reflects the number we have brought in. Behave, how have we been embarrassed by them? They overpaid on wages for him, but only because they've got some dodgy sponsorship deals, have bigger revenue streams than us (at the moment) and have wealthier owners than us. If they fail to get promoted (unlikely IMO though that is) they'll be screwed on FFP (or whatever it's called in league one) because we relegated teams only get one season's leeway then we're on the same playing field finance-wise as every other club in the division. May would have been a decent signing, but £20k a week? Glad we're not that daft. Would like to see one or two decent strikers in though.
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Aug 2, 2024 14:28:39 GMT 1
Behave, how have we been embarrassed by them? They overpaid on wages for him, but only because they've got some dodgy sponsorship deals, have bigger revenue streams than us (at the moment) and have wealthier owners than us. If they fail to get promoted (unlikely IMO though that is) they'll be screwed on FFP (or whatever it's called in league one) because we relegated teams only get one season's leeway then we're on the same playing field finance-wise as every other club in the division. May would have been a decent signing, but £20k a week? Glad we're not that daft. Would like to see one or two decent strikers in though. I’ll refrain until May comes (ironic) if Birmingham are sitting pretty in first and he’s scored 25+ and we’re nowhere to be seen it looks pretty good business to me. Alternatively, it may back fire (again ironic)
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Post by nickhtafc82 on Aug 2, 2024 14:29:13 GMT 1
I'd have genuinely had a moment if we'd agreed to pay May that. Like others, I'm glad we didn't throw stupid money at it in desperation. Having said that, we desperately need one or two strikers in.
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Post by trevuptop on Aug 2, 2024 14:30:00 GMT 1
Genuine question, who's at fault for Wards lengthy contract and supposedly extortionate wages...Warnock or Cartwright? Who signs off contracts and rubber stamps them? It was Neil Warnock's decision to extend the contracts of Ward, Koroma and Ruffels etc. However, I wouldn't worry about Ward's wages and the nonsense a few people have put about them on twitter. Wardy has gone from being one of the higher paid players from when Phil H introduced a 10k pw ceiling to now being one of the lower paid senior players. Koroma on the other hand got a bit of a bump. Shows how shit Ward is if we can't even get him off the books on low wages
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Post by mosher on Aug 2, 2024 14:30:33 GMT 1
I remember the opening game of the season town went up under Warnock in the 90s. Away at Blackpool. Jepson and Boothy up front. They were brilliant. Town won 4-2. But they didn’t even win automatic promotion that season. It had to take a scuffed penalty by Bullock to get to the play-off final. I would think the division is harder now. Look at the mediocrity they have to work with this season compared to Jepson and Booth. This squad is mid table material. I’m not sure what fans are basing their ‘this squad is good enough for league one’ from. Sounds like arrogance but I’m not sure what town fans have to be arrogant about. Wasn't it 4-1? I was there on that glorious day and I don't remember them scoring 2. I was very, very, very drunk though! (c) The Fast Show
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Post by ambryboy on Aug 2, 2024 14:31:20 GMT 1
To be honest whether Ward is on 10k a week or 5k a week it’s a piss poor return on investment. I just wanted to clarify that those tweets suggesting Ward is on over 20k pw are completely wrong and ludicrous. Although on the subject of investment: Since relegation from the PL we've signed the following strikers: Fraizer Campbell - free Danny Ward - free Oumar Niasse - free Yaya Sanogo - free Kieran Phillips - free Jordan Rhodes - free Mipo Obudeko - loan Florian Kamberi - free Martyn Waghorn - loan Kyle Hudlin - small fee with unachieved add ons (so far) Tyreece Simpson - few hundred k with unachieved add ons Then in January we finally spent money on a 1st team striker in Rhys Healey and Bojan Radulovic. People can either point fingers at Danny Ward or they can accept or question the chronic lack of investment by previous owners in this area meaning that the best we could attract financially was Danny Ward. Thankfully Kevin Nagle seems willing to put money into the forward areas so we should be having different types of discussions now moving forward. Wow, that's straight out of the Card Factory play book - buy cheap and then sell less cheap except we screwed up on the second part.
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Post by ezzie on Aug 2, 2024 14:33:36 GMT 1
To be honest whether Ward is on 10k a week or 5k a week it’s a piss poor return on investment. I just wanted to clarify that those tweets suggesting Ward is on over 20k pw are completely wrong and ludicrous. Although on the subject of investment: Since relegation from the PL we've signed the following strikers: Fraizer Campbell - free Danny Ward - free Oumar Niasse - free Yaya Sanogo - free Kieran Phillips - free Jordan Rhodes - free Mipo Obudeko - loan Florian Kamberi - free Martyn Waghorn - loan Kyle Hudlin - small fee with unachieved add ons (so far) Tyreece Simpson - few hundred k with unachieved add ons Then in January we finally spent money on a 1st team striker in Rhys Healey and Bojan Radulovic. People can either point fingers at Danny Ward or they can accept or question the chronic lack of investment by previous owners in this area meaning that the best we could attract financially was Danny Ward. Thankfully Kevin Nagle seems willing to put money into the forward areas so we should be having different types of discussions now moving forward. The strikers in that list 🙈 do it on the cheap - you get shit. Yet some Town fans will be happy with what we’ve currently got 😂.. someone called me ridiculous for stating ~2m for Taylor would be a perfect deal, and perfect investment. Happy clapper Town fans everywhere. .P.S. Matt keep up the good work
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2024 14:33:43 GMT 1
It was Neil Warnock's decision to extend the contracts of Ward, Koroma and Ruffels etc. However, I wouldn't worry about Ward's wages and the nonsense a few people have put about them on twitter. Wardy has gone from being one of the higher paid players from when Phil H introduced a 10k pw ceiling to now being one of the lower paid senior players. Koroma on the other hand got a bit of a bump. Shows how shit Ward is if we can't even get him off the books on low wages Who has said we have tried to get rid of him ?
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Post by ezzie on Aug 2, 2024 14:35:03 GMT 1
Shows how shit Ward is if we can't even get him off the books on low wages Who has said we have tried to get rid of him ? Ward has been told he can find a new club
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 2, 2024 14:35:43 GMT 1
Who has said we have tried to get rid of him ? Ward has been told he can find a new club Golf club?
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Post by htfcfcfc on Aug 2, 2024 14:38:37 GMT 1
Who has said we have tried to get rid of him ? Ward has been told he can find a new club ?
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Post by TTCMatt on Aug 2, 2024 14:38:39 GMT 1
I just wanted to clarify that those tweets suggesting Ward is on over 20k pw are completely wrong and ludicrous. Although on the subject of investment: Since relegation from the PL we've signed the following strikers: Fraizer Campbell - free Danny Ward - free Oumar Niasse - free Yaya Sanogo - free Kieran Phillips - free Jordan Rhodes - free Mipo Obudeko - loan Florian Kamberi - free Martyn Waghorn - loan Kyle Hudlin - small fee with unachieved add ons (so far) Tyreece Simpson - few hundred k with unachieved add ons Then in January we finally spent money on a 1st team striker in Rhys Healey and Bojan Radulovic. People can either point fingers at Danny Ward or they can accept or question the chronic lack of investment by previous owners in this area meaning that the best we could attract financially was Danny Ward. Thankfully Kevin Nagle seems willing to put money into the forward areas so we should be having different types of discussions now moving forward. The strikers in that list 🙈 do it on the cheap - you get shit. Yet some Town fans will be happy with what we’ve currently got 😂.. someone called me ridiculous for stating ~2m for Taylor would be a perfect deal, and perfect investment. Happy clapper Town fans everywhere. .P.S. Matt keep up the good work I don't know the exact figure for Taylor but if it's 2m, it's a risk, but it's also one that could pay off massively in time. I think people should just be thankful that our attempts to sign Mipo for 1.5m didn't materialise and we ended up with just a loan...
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Aug 2, 2024 14:41:54 GMT 1
To be honest whether Ward is on 10k a week or 5k a week it’s a piss poor return on investment. I just wanted to clarify that those tweets suggesting Ward is on over 20k pw are completely wrong and ludicrous. Although on the subject of investment: Since relegation from the PL we've signed the following strikers: Fraizer Campbell - free Danny Ward - free Oumar Niasse - free Yaya Sanogo - free Kieran Phillips - free Jordan Rhodes - free Mipo Obudeko - loan Florian Kamberi - free Martyn Waghorn - loan Kyle Hudlin - small fee with unachieved add ons (so far) Tyreece Simpson - few hundred k with unachieved add ons Then in January we finally spent money on a 1st team striker in Rhys Healey and Bojan Radulovic. People can either point fingers at Danny Ward or they can accept or question the chronic lack of investment by previous owners in this area meaning that the best we could attract financially was Danny Ward. Thankfully Kevin Nagle seems willing to put money into the forward areas so we should be having different types of discussions now moving forward. Explains a lot about how we’ve ended up with such a weak squad. Shouldn’t be throwing money around for the sake of it, but surprised we haven’t invested more in a bit of quality this summer so far.
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Post by ambryboy on Aug 2, 2024 14:44:36 GMT 1
Who has said we have tried to get rid of him ? Ward has been told he can find a new club He'll probably find one and then scuff his effort wide.
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Post by ezzie on Aug 2, 2024 14:44:44 GMT 1
The strikers in that list 🙈 do it on the cheap - you get shit. Yet some Town fans will be happy with what we’ve currently got 😂.. someone called me ridiculous for stating ~2m for Taylor would be a perfect deal, and perfect investment. Happy clapper Town fans everywhere. .P.S. Matt keep up the good work I don't know the exact figure for Taylor but if it's 2m, it's a risk, but it's also one that could pay off massively in time. I think people should just be thankful that our attempts to sign Mipo for 1.5m didn't materialise and we ended up with just a loan... Top scorer at 2 different clubs last season. Twice the fee we were willing to pay for a MAX 1/2 season May. Could/couldve been quite the coup in today’s market. That Sheff UTD striker whos just gone to Newcastle for £10m + £5m addons… scored 0 goals in 21 games last season🙈
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2024 14:54:52 GMT 1
Who has said we have tried to get rid of him ? Ward has been told he can find a new club Apologies I missed the club statement saying he could leave. It’s a shame as still think he has something to offer this season.
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Post by nickhtafc82 on Aug 2, 2024 14:55:37 GMT 1
£2m for Taylor given his age etc seems reasonable. We paid £1.2m for a certain striker from Bristol in the 90's, so £2m now doesn't seem too much for a goal scorer.
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 2, 2024 14:59:39 GMT 1
Ward has been told he can find a new club Apologies I missed the club statement saying he could leave. It’s a shame as still think he has something to offer this season. With all your connections, Castlehillterrier, I thought you'd have been privy to such information.
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Post by htafcdan on Aug 2, 2024 15:05:11 GMT 1
The strikers in that list 🙈 do it on the cheap - you get shit. Yet some Town fans will be happy with what we’ve currently got 😂.. someone called me ridiculous for stating ~2m for Taylor would be a perfect deal, and perfect investment. Happy clapper Town fans everywhere. .P.S. Matt keep up the good work I don't know the exact figure for Taylor but if it's 2m, it's a risk, but it's also one that could pay off massively in time. I think people should just be thankful that our attempts to sign Mipo for 1.5m didn't materialise and we ended up with just a loan... are we still in for him then?
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Post by Big Ern on Aug 2, 2024 15:08:04 GMT 1
Next time I see you running to the side of the pitch with your dad to slag the players off during a match I'll remind you of that one Make yourself known next time and you can say everything you say on here to my face. Your hypocrisy is hilarious though, I'll give you that. *And don't let the truth get in the way of a good yarn. I walked down at the end of the Swansea game and told the players exactly what I thought of them alongside about 20 other people. I haven't run anywhere since I was about 14. It would be an absolute pleasure.
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