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Post by kirkheatonterrier on Jun 8, 2024 15:51:01 GMT 1
So if last summer's recruitment was left to NW what was Cartwright getting paid for. He came in as DOF didn't he?
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Post by terrierclivewarren on Jun 8, 2024 15:55:39 GMT 1
George Lloyd gone to Shrewsbury. Saw we’d been linked with him, but probably lazy journalism due to Duff. Asked a Cheltenham season ticket holder at work what he was like. “Shit. Runs about a lot, doesn’t score goals.” Also asked about Lewis Freestone, who’s also been linked, and he said he was decent but always on the edge of getting booked or sent off. What are his thoughts on Will Ferry? On paper looks like he would be a great option for us
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Post by terrierclivewarren on Jun 8, 2024 15:56:26 GMT 1
George Lloyd gone to Shrewsbury. Saw we’d been linked with him, but probably lazy journalism due to Duff. Asked a Cheltenham season ticket holder at work what he was like. “Shit. Runs about a lot, doesn’t score goals.” Also asked about Lewis Freestone, who’s also been linked, and he said he was decent but always on the edge of getting booked or sent off. What are his thoughts on Will Ferry? On paper looks like he would be a great option for us Signed for Dundee... never mind
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Post by dm on Jun 8, 2024 15:57:52 GMT 1
As said above it was Warnock who wanted Wiles, Cartwright in most interviews he gives always says about how summer recruitment was left to warnock Doesn't fit the anti Cartwright agenda though does it ! Cartwright BOOO, he'll only look sign people he's worked with before... on another, unrelated subject, is there anybody from Cheltenham we should sign because Duff as there years ago? #irony
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Post by exberlinerterrier on Jun 8, 2024 16:28:15 GMT 1
So if last summer's recruitment was left to NW what was Cartwright getting paid for. He came in as DOF didn't he? To be fair, a Director of Football has a very large remit. Would have started to oversee the project to get the academy back up and running, determining which aspects of the training facilities are not up to scratch and organising improvements. I believe he will have been responsible for the staff replacements in the medical department, and also the recent changes in recruitment personnel. Recruitment also falls in his department, so failures are ultimately on his watch, but it’s just a part of his job, not his only job.
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Post by workshyfop on Jun 8, 2024 16:35:10 GMT 1
What are his thoughts on Will Ferry? On paper looks like he would be a great option for us Signed for Dundee... never mind Yep, they could be in trouble. Lost anyone half-decent from their squad and manager went to Barnsley. Sounds like they’re skint to the extent a few of their players have gone to Forest Green “for the money”.
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Post by leroy212 on Jun 8, 2024 16:54:56 GMT 1
Players the gone to forest green turned down new deals but were 33 and 35 I think. So I don't think will be missed to much. Plus cant blame manager for going to Barnsley
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Post by leroy212 on Jun 8, 2024 16:55:08 GMT 1
Players that gone to forest green turned down new deals but were 33 and 35 I think. So I don't think will be missed to much
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Post by terriers2000 on Jun 8, 2024 19:39:31 GMT 1
George Lloyd gone to Shrewsbury. Saw we’d been linked with him, but probably lazy journalism due to Duff. Asked a Cheltenham season ticket holder at work what he was like. “Shit. Runs about a lot, doesn’t score goals.” Also asked about Lewis Freestone, who’s also been linked, and he said he was decent but always on the edge of getting booked or sent off. we were never linked with him🤣🤣
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Post by iffyslostlens on Jun 8, 2024 20:09:10 GMT 1
How about Ivor Belliyake and aneada sheyat? what about the Irish lad Rick O'shay, or the Russian Ikika Bolacoff Always thought balakov was bulgarian?
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Post by workshyfop on Jun 8, 2024 20:22:14 GMT 1
George Lloyd gone to Shrewsbury. Saw we’d been linked with him, but probably lazy journalism due to Duff. Asked a Cheltenham season ticket holder at work what he was like. “Shit. Runs about a lot, doesn’t score goals.” Also asked about Lewis Freestone, who’s also been linked, and he said he was decent but always on the edge of getting booked or sent off. we were never linked with him🤣🤣 Eh? Someone posted a link on here.
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Post by workshyfop on Jun 8, 2024 20:37:21 GMT 1
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Post by cuz on Jun 9, 2024 5:59:29 GMT 1
Does anyone know how clubs make a bid/offer for a player? Genuinely interested and wondered if it's the club secretary, DoF who makes contact. Is there a template to fill in to email or more likely fax across in our case, or is the Neil W/ Barry Fry/Cloughie way still prevalent? Remember seeing the deadline day mayhem with Barry trying to do deals up to the wire. I'm guessing there may be protocols between clubs and then dealing with players agent before you even get close to speaking to the player?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2024 9:02:01 GMT 1
Does anyone know how clubs make a bid/offer for a player? Genuinely interested and wondered if it's the club secretary, DoF who makes contact. Is there a template to fill in to email or more likely fax across in our case, or is the Neil W/ Barry Fry/Cloughie way still prevalent? Remember seeing the deadline day mayhem with Barry trying to do deals up to the wire. I'm guessing there may be protocols between clubs and then dealing with players agent before you even get close to speaking to the player? If a player is contracted to a club then I believe protocol is to approach the club first, I’m guessing DOF does that? If free agent then I assume all initial communication is via the agent, once again for us DOF would do. If you have a manager situation, as Warnock preferred, then it would be them. If a manager knows a played, like Warnock & Ward it may be direct to the player first, so it probably varies. I think we try and do things by the book but I could be wrong.
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Post by goodbet on Jun 9, 2024 11:39:41 GMT 1
Knowing he was only a temporary appointment, to blow 80% of our budget on a player after a massive injury is just incompetence of the highest level. Cartwright needs to learn from his mistakes, absolutely no room for incompetence this season. As said above it was Warnock who wanted Wiles, Cartwright in most interviews he gives always says about how summer recruitment was left to warnock For someone coming in as a DoF (all be it a little late) he can not wright off the whole of the summer signings as Warnocks. He was the one who should have be supervising the transfers and not telling him he had no budget left when he needed to sign a striker. Leaving Warnock to kick off the transfer window was a big mistake by KN.
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Post by goodbet on Jun 9, 2024 11:51:23 GMT 1
Does anyone know how clubs make a bid/offer for a player? Genuinely interested and wondered if it's the club secretary, DoF who makes contact. Is there a template to fill in to email or more likely fax across in our case, or is the Neil W/ Barry Fry/Cloughie way still prevalent? Remember seeing the deadline day mayhem with Barry trying to do deals up to the wire. I'm guessing there may be protocols between clubs and then dealing with players agent before you even get close to speaking to the player? If a player is contracted to a club then I believe protocol is to approach the club first, I’m guessing DOF does that? If free agent then I assume all initial communication is via the agent, once again for us DOF would do. If you have a manager situation, as Warnock preferred, then it would be them. If a manager knows a played, like Warnock & Ward it may be direct to the player first, so it probably varies. I think we try and do things by the book but I could be wrong. There is 'protocol' and there is reality! By all accounts agents get involved early and let clubs know if they want to move and what salary they want.
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Post by alanalanleeee on Jun 9, 2024 12:23:10 GMT 1
DB was Daley Blind not Danny Batth. Maynard will be able to confirm this Pretty sure this is about Bradley Dack Oh wait
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Post by goodbet on Jun 9, 2024 12:41:03 GMT 1
So if last summer's recruitment was left to NW what was Cartwright getting paid for. He came in as DOF didn't he? To be fair, a Director of Football has a very large remit. Would have started to oversee the project to get the academy back up and running, determining which aspects of the training facilities are not up to scratch and organising improvements. I believe he will have been responsible for the staff replacements in the medical department, and also the recent changes in recruitment personnel. Recruitment also falls in his department, so failures are ultimately on his watch, but it’s just a part of his job, not his only job. Correct. And after looking like we were going to be relegated all last season, the one job he decided to wash his hands of was to rebuild the first team! Makes complete sense
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Post by royrace on Jun 9, 2024 13:06:20 GMT 1
To be fair, a Director of Football has a very large remit. Would have started to oversee the project to get the academy back up and running, determining which aspects of the training facilities are not up to scratch and organising improvements. I believe he will have been responsible for the staff replacements in the medical department, and also the recent changes in recruitment personnel. Recruitment also falls in his department, so failures are ultimately on his watch, but it’s just a part of his job, not his only job. Correct. And after looking like we were going to be relegated all last season, the one job he decided to wash his hands of was to rebuild the first team! Makes complete sense The demarcation of responsibility is very straightforward. If it goes badly it was Warnock's responsibility and he will make sure everyone knows it. Even if the coaches he employs fail, it's still Warnock's fault and again he will make sure he tells everybody. If it goes well it's Cartwright's responsibility although we're still waiting for that to play out due to absolutely nothing going well since he walked through the door. I'm hoping he's able to take credit for Duff's performance this year because I suspect and hope he will have a very big say on transfers.
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Post by goodbet on Jun 9, 2024 13:15:22 GMT 1
Correct. And after looking like we were going to be relegated all last season, the one job he decided to wash his hands of was to rebuild the first team! Makes complete sense The demarcation of responsibility is very straightforward. If it goes badly it was Warnock's responsibility and he will make sure everyone knows it. Even if the coaches he employs fail, it's still Warnock's fault and again he will make sure he tells everybody. If it goes well it's Cartwright's responsibility although we're still waiting for that to play out due to absolutely nothing going well since he walked through the door. I'm hoping he's able to take credit for Duff's performance this year because I suspect and hope he will have a very big say on transfers. We all want Town to do well, but how long do we have to wait for some of his decisions to have a positive effect. If you are right it could be Duff's decisions anyway!
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Post by nnnlove on Jun 9, 2024 13:53:32 GMT 1
You know no names will be given. We will settle for initials instead Tek yer pick from: ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ Bugger, does that mean we're not signing Martin Ødegaard?
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Post by dalesterrier on Jun 9, 2024 16:08:50 GMT 1
Read today a couple of other clubs have signed players but not announcing until Friday when the window opens. Maybe we are too??
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Post by utttrooper on Jun 9, 2024 16:28:08 GMT 1
Tek yer pick from: ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ Bugger, does that mean we're not signing Martin Ødegaard? What about KDB. He said he'd consider all options
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Post by nnnlove on Jun 9, 2024 16:40:58 GMT 1
Bugger, does that mean we're not signing Martin Ødegaard? What about KDB. He said he'd consider all options Think you might have missed the joke
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jun 9, 2024 17:11:31 GMT 1
So if last summer's recruitment was left to NW what was Cartwright getting paid for. He came in as DOF didn't he? He spent the summer window planning the remodeling of Warnock's office for after he gave him the boot, he didn't have time to look for players, apparently? Weird that people think he didn't get a say in last summers recruitment, considering that's his job? Didn't Edwards claim Cartwright had an extensive black book of contacts to utilise during that window? 🤔
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Jun 9, 2024 17:47:55 GMT 1
I don't know if there's any truth in this but I'd snap their hands off in we can get half a million for Jackson.
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Post by leroy212 on Jun 9, 2024 18:05:27 GMT 1
I don't know if there's any truth in this but I'd snap their hands off in we can get half a million for Jackson. Remember when the rumours about rangers wanting him were around and everyone said we should keep. Now seems most would get rid
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Post by Terriersmad on Jun 9, 2024 18:05:40 GMT 1
I don't know if there's any truth in this but I'd snap their hands off in we can get half a million for Jackson. No truth whatsoever I’d bet. Yet another timewasting sad act Twitter account.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jun 9, 2024 18:21:13 GMT 1
So if last summer's recruitment was left to NW what was Cartwright getting paid for. He came in as DOF didn't he? He spent the summer window planning the remodeling of Warnock's office for after he gave him the boot, he didn't have time to look for players, apparently? Weird that people think he didn't get a say in last summers recruitment, considering that's his job? Didn't Edwards claim Cartwright had an extensive black book of contacts to utilise during that window? 🤔 Just a thought/ a little bit to add. When Wiles signed, Cartwright made comment about the signing. Therefore must have signed it off, something to think about is , don't sign it off if it wasn't a signing you made? or weren't happy with. I am saying that , as only a few weeks later Warnock was gone. You can't have it both ways, when it suits you so to speak.
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Post by rockwall on Jun 9, 2024 18:56:45 GMT 1
He spent the summer window planning the remodeling of Warnock's office for after he gave him the boot, he didn't have time to look for players, apparently? Weird that people think he didn't get a say in last summers recruitment, considering that's his job? Didn't Edwards claim Cartwright had an extensive black book of contacts to utilise during that window? 🤔 Just a thought/ a little bit to add. When Wiles signed, Cartwright made comment about the signing. Therefore must have signed it off, something to think about is , don't sign it off if it wasn't a signing you made? or weren't happy with. I am saying that , as only a few weeks later Warnock was gone. You can't have it both ways, when it suits you so to speak. When has Carwright ever actually said he didn't want Wiles?
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