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Post by pterrier on Jun 29, 2024 13:51:17 GMT 1
It'd be worse if he gets sucked into a bidding war and pays over the odds out of pride. Anything south of 1m I think is reasonable. And it was reasonable a month ago. Just pay it and avoid the drama. Doesn’t always work like that. Birmingham have most likely been waiting in the wings this entire time, waiting for us to have a bid accepted (as they are aware Charlton know they have more money and would have them over the barrel for more) as soon as the bid is accepted, they match it or slightly raise it. This would have happened two weeks ago if we’d have met Charlton’s price
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Post by dbterrier32 on Jun 29, 2024 13:52:16 GMT 1
Call me cynical here but I think there is something else at play here. This bloke has consistently said no pressure to sell to us and no fee agreed. Now we find out it is almost to be announced this comes out and he doesn’t even mention us. I think it he could be told to release this as a ploy by Mays agents to get slightly more out of Town in wages etc
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Jun 29, 2024 14:01:43 GMT 1
And it was reasonable a month ago. Just pay it and avoid the drama. Doesn’t always work like that. Birmingham have most likely been waiting in the wings this entire time, waiting for us to have a bid accepted (as they are aware Charlton know they have more money and would have them over the barrel for more) as soon as the bid is accepted, they match it or slightly raise it. This would have happened two weeks ago if we’d have met Charlton’s price Maybe, maybe not. But we were trying to be cute and screw the price down while publically courting the lads for weeks and it has blown up in our face. I’m not sure that is just bad luck.
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Post by willo on Jun 29, 2024 14:02:58 GMT 1
May seems to have been linked with us for what, 2-3 weeks? If we don’t sign him, it’ll be down to money and nothing else. Either the fee or his wages. And why would Charlton take less from us or the player less in wages? Nobody would in the same situation. We either stump up the extra few grand (and we have a Chairman who can for once) or we decide to tap out and look elsewhere. If Duff really wants the player, I’d like to think whatever the fee is wouldn’t be an issue. We’re likely talking the difference between £1m and £1.5m and I realise I’m not the one signing the cheques but we have a guy in charge to who this is supposedly small potatoes. No doubt we’ll see in the next few days but hopefully this isn’t an indication of this transfer window’s policy as well.
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Post by willo on Jun 29, 2024 14:04:08 GMT 1
Doesn’t always work like that. Birmingham have most likely been waiting in the wings this entire time, waiting for us to have a bid accepted (as they are aware Charlton know they have more money and would have them over the barrel for more) as soon as the bid is accepted, they match it or slightly raise it. This would have happened two weeks ago if we’d have met Charlton’s price Maybe, maybe not. But we were trying to be cute and screw the price down while publically courting the lads for weeks and it has blown up in our face. I’m not sure that is just bad luck. It wouldn’t be the first time where Town were concerned. We have history here going way back. Remember, if it can be done on the cheap, Town will do it on the cheap.
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Post by Terriersmad on Jun 29, 2024 14:09:31 GMT 1
We’d agreed a fee. We did nothing in public. Please explain how that’s Town’s issue?
At the end of the day, Charlton have courted additional interest. We’ve gone in and agreed a fee, and hours later someone else has come in. That’s at Charlton’s end, not ours. Not us being cheap. Charlton trying to spark a bidding war with leaks and briefings. As is their prerogative: he’s their player. It’s in their interest to get as big a fee as possible.
Sometimes people just look for anything to blame Town for. Even when we’ve agreed a fee, somehow we’re being cheap.
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Jun 29, 2024 14:15:24 GMT 1
Piss poor from Cartwright if this deal goes down. Had weeks to get it wrapped up. I love how you say that like you have any clue whatsoever what goes on behind the scenes.
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Post by terryya on Jun 29, 2024 14:15:36 GMT 1
Doesn’t always work like that. Birmingham have most likely been waiting in the wings this entire time, waiting for us to have a bid accepted (as they are aware Charlton know they have more money and would have them over the barrel for more) as soon as the bid is accepted, they match it or slightly raise it. This would have happened two weeks ago if we’d have met Charlton’s price Maybe, maybe not. But we were trying to be cute and screw the price down while publically courting the lads for weeks and it has blown up in our face. I’m not sure that is just bad luck. We've done some bad business over recent years but this is a bit harsh on Town. We've literally done nothing in public and I'm sure have been desperate to get it sorted ASAP. On the other hand, Charlton have to try and get as much as possible and don't care if it takes another week or two. I'm not sure there was much we could have done differently.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jun 29, 2024 14:18:36 GMT 1
It's Alfie May, not Kylian Mbappe. If he doesn't sign then we move on to the next. Hardly the end of the world
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jun 29, 2024 14:19:18 GMT 1
We’d agreed a fee. We did nothing in public. Please explain how that’s Town’s issue? At the end of the day, Charlton have courted additional interest. We’ve gone in and agreed a fee, and hours later someone else has come in. That’s at Charlton’s end, not ours. Not us being cheap. Charlton trying to spark a bidding war with leaks and briefings. As is their prerogative: he’s their player. It’s in their interest to get as big a fee as possible. Sometimes people just look for anything to blame Town for. Even when we’ve agreed a fee, somehow we’re being cheap. Birmingham may not wish to up the fee, just the personal deal. Why would you pay a bigger fee plus more wages if you did not have to??? If we have a fee we believe is the right amount and a personal deal we believe is right, why would we wish to up either or both. Being cheap is not offering the 'right' amount for both and then whinging about not getting the player???
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Post by daltonterrier44 on Jun 29, 2024 14:21:18 GMT 1
If this goes the same way the Elijah Adebayo one did then all I can think of is new owners, same mentality sadly.
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Jun 29, 2024 14:23:53 GMT 1
Piss poor from Cartwright if this deal goes down. Had weeks to get it wrapped up. I love how you say that like you have any clue whatsoever what goes on behind the scenes. Right, go on enlighten me. All I can see is his name being put out there a long time ago and now getting gazumped at the end. It’s hard to have much faith after last season.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jun 29, 2024 14:24:08 GMT 1
Sounds like the Adebayo deal all over again. We will end up with another striker who has scored less goals than Dann Ward and lauded as the player we wanted all along. I'm hoping this isn't the case but if it is it seems that nothing much has changed Naff all like the same scenario, other than at the absolute base level.
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Post by alanalanleeee on Jun 29, 2024 14:25:20 GMT 1
If this goes the same way the Elijah Adebayo one did then all I can think of is new owners, same mentality sadly. Adebayo was 22, it’s completely different. May is like 38!
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jun 29, 2024 14:27:23 GMT 1
I love how you say that like you have any clue whatsoever what goes on behind the scenes. Right, go on enlighten me. All I can see is his name being put out there a long time ago and now getting gazumped at the end. It’s hard to have much faith after last season. Birmingham will have let his agent know they're interested and then sat waiting for Town to get close to agreement at which point the agent lets Birmingham know rather than Birmingham joining a bidding war pushing the price up. Whether that had come after one day or 3 weeks, Birmingham clearly were always going to gazzump us
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Post by Terriersmad on Jun 29, 2024 14:28:03 GMT 1
I love how you say that like you have any clue whatsoever what goes on behind the scenes. Right, go on enlighten me. All I can see is his name being put out there a long time ago and now getting gazumped at the end. It’s hard to have much faith after last season. Yeah, because Charlton have been putting out briefings and touting things around in the press. Nothing from Town. Leaks were at the other end, barring one ITK person who all know, who has been very cloak and dagger.
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Jun 29, 2024 14:35:45 GMT 1
Fair enough. But I hope we’ve got a pretty decent second choice on the list, because this is the guy Duff wanted, so it’s a big blow if it doesn’t happen.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jun 29, 2024 14:40:58 GMT 1
Fair enough. But I hope we’ve got a pretty decent second choice on the list, because this is the guy Duff wanted, so it’s a big blow if it doesn’t happen. I'm sure May would be Duffs no.1 transfer target. He knows him well and kicked him to the next level. He'll be disappointed if we can’t compete with his wages because I think that'll be the only reason why May doesn't reunite with a manager he has a lot of respect for.
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Post by kimbo999 on Jun 29, 2024 14:42:50 GMT 1
It's Alfie May, not Kylian Mbappe. If he doesn't sign then we move on to the next. Hardly the end of the world I'd prefer us to get langstaff to be fair Said that from start. Younger, looks to have a bit more. Might cost a bit more up front but better investment for me.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jun 29, 2024 14:45:37 GMT 1
It's Alfie May, not Kylian Mbappe. If he doesn't sign then we move on to the next. Hardly the end of the world I'd prefer us to get langstaff to be fair Said that from start. Younger, looks to have a bit more. Might cost a bit more up front but better investment for me. Championship teams in for him so no chance.
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Post by daltonterrier44 on Jun 29, 2024 14:51:02 GMT 1
If this goes the same way the Elijah Adebayo one did then all I can think of is new owners, same mentality sadly. Adebayo was 22, it’s completely different. May is like 38! he’s 31 and a proven goal scorer, and we potentially have had both deals and blew the pair…sounds very familiar to me.
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Post by mids on Jun 29, 2024 14:55:35 GMT 1
As Morrissey might have warbled..."Bedwetters of the world unite"
Some adults on here really need to get some perspective on life (and football)
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Post by Mounie for nothing on Jun 29, 2024 14:59:06 GMT 1
Adebayo was 22, it’s completely different. May is like 38! he’s 31 and a proven goal scorer, and we potentially have had both deals and blew the pair…sounds very familiar to me. What the fuck do you want the owners to do, kidnap him? It's Charlton's decision which offer to accept and then the players decision if both bids are accepted. If a club offered £1million for Danny Ward and then someone else came in and offered £1.5million what would you do? Tell them no thanks, we had an offer already? This isn't Football Manager, transfers are infinitely more complicated and nuanced. And we may go back and offer more.
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Post by kimbo999 on Jun 29, 2024 15:14:14 GMT 1
he’s 31 and a proven goal scorer, and we potentially have had both deals and blew the pair…sounds very familiar to me. What the fuck do you want the owners to do, kidnap him? It's Charlton's decision which offer to accept and then the players decision if both bids are accepted. If a club offered £1million for Danny Ward and then someone else came in and offered £1.5million what would you do? Tell them no thanks, we had an offer already? This isn't Football Manager, transfers are infinitely more complicated and nuanced. And we may go back and offer more. To be fair if someone offered us a fiver for ward I'd of snapped their hands off 😜
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Post by blackcat on Jun 29, 2024 15:27:36 GMT 1
I think Huddersfield Town could have been title challengers if May had signed. But, as others have said, I don't believe anyone at the club can be blamed if moneybags Brum have priced them out.
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Post by dirtyoldtown on Jun 29, 2024 15:29:20 GMT 1
May was set on coming and working with Duff again. Birmingham have come with a bigger contract for him at the last minute.
Could be his last big pay packet but no decision made either way yet.
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Post by alexdire on Jun 29, 2024 15:33:26 GMT 1
Come on if it's between us and Birmingham. It's only going one way, a chance of promotion or a possible chance of the play-offs with us.
No contest really.
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Post by H7 on Jun 29, 2024 15:33:39 GMT 1
Offer accepted means nothing, ultimately it’s up to the player. Personal circumstances probably gives us an edge (wife from Yorkshire) and working with Duff before is a good pull however if Brum are offering him daft money then what can you do? If he wants to play for Town great, if not then move on.
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Post by Paphos Terrier on Jun 29, 2024 15:34:01 GMT 1
What the fuck do you want the owners to do, kidnap him? It's Charlton's decision which offer to accept and then the players decision if both bids are accepted. If a club offered £1million for Danny Ward and then someone else came in and offered £1.5million what would you do? Tell them no thanks, we had an offer already? This isn't Football Manager, transfers are infinitely more complicated and nuanced. And we may go back and offer more. To be fair if someone offered us a fiver for ward I'd of snapped their hands off 😜 The bid by Town is reported to be £750,000. The better bid by Birmingham is reported to be £775,000. So for £25k when Town have done all the spade work he's now off to Brum. Let's all wait and see hey.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jun 29, 2024 15:34:31 GMT 1
Come on if it's between us and Birmingham. It's only going one way, a chance of promotion or a possible chance of the play-offs with us. No contest really. That's the spirit
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