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Post by galpharm2400 on May 29, 2024 11:58:43 GMT 1
Just read in the Examiner {on line} that Cartwright says " The players I really want are out of our price range" So basically saying we will settle for 2nd best.... And we are expecting a good season? So far his first choices have not been any good, what chance do we have with his second choices? It does not sound like he is up to speed with the current going rate for players. Too long in the USA! I doubt that we will have a team ready to go when training starts, lets just hope we have one for the start of the season. More talk, more negative, small club talk.. ?? The players you really want dont want to play in the first division, suck it up, you helped in our relegation, so get players who suit Duff, who do want to play in the first division. You are paid to source the best we can afford, you are paid to source the best of the players we can afford that suit the coach's plans, so fucking get on with it. Stop talking, start doing..š”
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Post by townarentbest on May 29, 2024 12:00:48 GMT 1
Id be selling Rudoni for 2 million plus add ons. He has been an integral part of a midfield that cant pass a ball 5 yards. Who are you selling him to who would pay Ā£2m?
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Post by royrace on May 29, 2024 12:03:53 GMT 1
I also tend to agree in terms of end product. Very tidy like you say but generally been wasteful in front of goal.That could be partly down to the team heās playing in/confidence due to the team heās been playing in.Looked back at some highlights of him at Wimbledon that iv included here and one instance proving he can strike a ball and a couple where shows very clinical finishes. If he stays maybe the step down and hopefully a proper pre season and a full season under one manager he can thrive again. Rudoni certainly leathered that one that came off the inside of the post against either Birmingham or Swansea. I am trying to forget those games. IMO he will have a good career in the top half of the Championship, when he gets playing with other decent players and coaching. Exactly, he's a top half championship player, Ā£2M is peanuts. Didn't we pay at least half of that for him? Wouldn't be gutted to see him go for the right price, Ā£2M is poor though unless the add ons are very good.
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Post by inapickle on May 29, 2024 12:04:09 GMT 1
So in an ideal world for L1 level who can we see coming in as replacements for the players that are or even maybe leaving for pastures new! Joe Wildsmith - Jordan Williams - Callum Styles - Ben Osbourn - Thyreese Campbell - Joe Hungbo - Sheldon Baptiste - Callam O'Hare - Devante Cole - we all know names of players who have 'available on a Free transfer'next to their names. Just thought as a talking point if these or any others have been doing the rounds as potential new members of our 24/25 squad?
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Post by iainmac3inarow on May 29, 2024 12:05:58 GMT 1
Rudoni certainly leathered that one that came off the inside of the post against either Birmingham or Swansea. I am trying to forget those games. IMO he will have a good career in the top half of the Championship, when he gets playing with other decent players and coaching. Exactly, he's a top half championship player, Ā£2M is peanuts. Didn't we pay at least half of that for him? Wouldn't be gutted to see him go for the right price, Ā£2M is poor though unless the add ons are very good. At what point has he been top half Championship?
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Post by townarentbest on May 29, 2024 12:08:21 GMT 1
Rudoni certainly leathered that one that came off the inside of the post against either Birmingham or Swansea. I am trying to forget those games. IMO he will have a good career in the top half of the Championship, when he gets playing with other decent players and coaching. Exactly, he's a top half championship player, Ā£2M is peanuts. Didn't we pay at least half of that for him? Wouldn't be gutted to see him go for the right price, Ā£2M is poor though unless the add ons are very good. What he's demonstrated over the last 2 seasons is he's a player who struggles to have much impact in the bottom third of the Championship, whilst having a fading history of being pretty decent in League 1. Can't really imagine any Championship club putting an offer in for him this summer.
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Post by portugalterrier on May 29, 2024 12:09:40 GMT 1
Unless Town have agreed, Rudoni / Agent cannot talk to anyone, Iād take this report with a pinch of salt. Personally would be disappointed if Rudoni left, think he would thrive under Duff.
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Post by galpharm2400 on May 29, 2024 12:12:56 GMT 1
Exactly, he's a top half championship player, Ā£2M is peanuts. Didn't we pay at least half of that for him? Wouldn't be gutted to see him go for the right price, Ā£2M is poor though unless the add ons are very good. At what point has he been top half Championship? Im not against selling anyone who does not want to be here. The fact that one or two believe they are better than the first division, even though they played a key role in being relegated to it, leads me to question their ability to be motivated even if they have to stay because nobody offers enough in fees or wages for them. Im ok with unloading these players for anything more than a loss. Anyone truly see Sorba giving it his 'all' next season here??? Give Helik and Spencer good reasons to stay, the rest can go.
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Post by royrace on May 29, 2024 12:15:46 GMT 1
Exactly, he's a top half championship player, Ā£2M is peanuts. Didn't we pay at least half of that for him? Wouldn't be gutted to see him go for the right price, Ā£2M is poor though unless the add ons are very good. At what point has he been top half Championship? Never, however he's often been the best player in our shit team over the last two seasons which leads me to believe he is capable of starting for a top half championship club. Coventry obviously agree with me, they're very much a top half side aren't they? Never underestimate a crap teams ability to make even good footballers look average and nice versa.
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Post by terriersyndrome on May 29, 2024 12:20:19 GMT 1
Exactly, he's a top half championship player, Ā£2M is peanuts. Didn't we pay at least half of that for him? Wouldn't be gutted to see him go for the right price, Ā£2M is poor though unless the add ons are very good. What he's demonstrated over the last 2 seasons is he's a player who struggles to have much impact in the bottom third of the Championship, whilst having a fading history of being pretty decent in League 1. Can't really imagine any Championship club putting an offer in for him this summer. He's played the equivalent of around 78 games in a town shirt, 7 goals with 8 assists. Equates to worse than a 1 in 11 for goals scored and over 1 in 5 for total goal contributions. For an attacking player that is poor at any level. If we can make abit of profit on him I'd sell and replace him with Keillor-Dunn at Mansfield.
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Post by exberlinerterrier on May 29, 2024 12:21:13 GMT 1
I had heard elsewhere that Rudoni to Cov was a possibility. 2 million (plus add-ons) is probably a decent fee for a player who hasn't kicked on with us. Every chance of being an excellent Championship player in the right team and environment, so hopefully we've got a nice sell-on included. Does this originate from "Big" John Harriott - Football Agent?! Parody account isn't it? No, it doesn't. Someone already posted that this morning and my post was in response, suggesting that I had heard elsewhere (a couple of weeks ago from a friend, no ITK source) that Cov were interested in Rudoni.
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Post by goodbet on May 29, 2024 12:31:40 GMT 1
So far his first choices have not been any good, what chance do we have with his second choices? It does not sound like he is up to speed with the current going rate for players. Too long in the USA! I doubt that we will have a team ready to go when training starts, lets just hope we have one for the start of the season. More talk, more negative, small club talk.. ?? The players you really want dont want to play in the first division, suck it up, you helped in our relegation, so get players who suit Duff, who do want to play in the first division. You are paid to source the best we can afford, you are paid to source the best of the players we can afford that suit the coach's plans, so fucking get on with it. Stop talking, start doing..š” Sounds like he is getting his excuses in early.
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Post by ldotm on May 29, 2024 13:16:55 GMT 1
Definitely a player in there with Rudoni at 22, yeah he has limitations but he was expected to be the main man in midfield at 22, in a consistently poor team.
Letās not forget he got 12 in 41 for Wimbledon in a relegation team in League 1, at just 20 years old. That talent doesnāt just go away. Nurtured in the right way, heāll go on to do well.
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Post by bluestripe on May 29, 2024 13:19:53 GMT 1
At what point has he been top half Championship? Never, however he's often been the best player in our shit team over the last two seasons which leads me to believe he is capable of starting for a top half championship club. Coventry obviously agree with me, they're very much a top half side aren't they? Never underestimate a crap teams ability to make even good footballers look average and nice versa. Yep. I always think we have Maddison to "thank" for making somebody think Pritchard was a multi million pound player. Jon Russell looked good in Corberan's team with Lewis OBrien alongside, but looked immobile & slow afterwards.
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Post by stinkypete on May 29, 2024 13:22:32 GMT 1
More talk, more negative, small club talk.. ?? The players you really want dont want to play in the first division, suck it up, you helped in our relegation, so get players who suit Duff, who do want to play in the first division. You are paid to source the best we can afford, you are paid to source the best of the players we can afford that suit the coach's plans, so fucking get on with it. Stop talking, start doing..š” Sounds like he is getting his excuses in early. For goodness sake, this comment was tongue in cheek from Duffs original press conference, stop looking to pounce on anything and turn it into a negative! Itās pathetic.
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Post by Next Manager coming soon on May 29, 2024 13:24:58 GMT 1
Sounds like he is getting his excuses in early. For goodness sake, this comment was tongue in cheek from Duffs original press conference, stop looking to pounce on anything and turn it into a negative! Itās pathetic. Just saved me a job. Jesus some just want to moan about every single thing. Itās been mentioned about 5 times that the comments were not Cartwright nor serious but people just choose to be mad anyway.
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Post by Next Manager coming soon on May 29, 2024 13:26:31 GMT 1
Also Iāve seen (insert club here) have released (insert players name we donāt really know here). We should / Nagle should be āall over that.ā
That should just about cover most posts going forward
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Post by mosher on May 29, 2024 13:27:58 GMT 1
Just read in the Examiner {on line} that Cartwright says " The players I really want are out of our price range" So basically saying we will settle for 2nd best.... And we are expecting a good season? I took it in a more positive manner, IE we are looking at high quality players and (at the moment) we're being priced out of them. Edit: Just seen all the other responses. At least I was taking regurgitated click-bait in a positive way
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Post by goodbet on May 29, 2024 13:50:04 GMT 1
Never, however he's often been the best player in our shit team over the last two seasons which leads me to believe he is capable of starting for a top half championship club. Coventry obviously agree with me, they're very much a top half side aren't they? Never underestimate a crap teams ability to make even good footballers look average and nice versa. Yep. I always think we have Maddison to "thank" for making somebody think Pritchard was a multi million pound player. Jon Russell looked good in Corberan's team with Lewis OBrien alongside, but looked immobile & slow afterwards. To be fair Jon Russell looked slow all of the time, but the difference was, what you get when you have quality players around you. From my playing days I always felt like a footballer when I played along side of a couple of mates who were semi-pro and were fit as a fiddle and always willing to receive the ball.
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Post by goodbet on May 29, 2024 13:57:29 GMT 1
Sounds like he is getting his excuses in early. For goodness sake, this comment was tongue in cheek from Duffs original press conference, stop looking to pounce on anything and turn it into a negative! Itās pathetic. Supporting the club is not turning a blind eye to stupid mistakes made by the club. We are not in a better place 12 months on, was that another tongue in cheek comment? The man is a joke look at his choices of manager and the January window. He is on very thin ice and needs to show us all that he has some professional ability.
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Post by bells ringing :) on May 29, 2024 13:59:38 GMT 1
The examiner recycle comments, from weeks before . What Duff said in the presser is very very much "tongue in cheek" as i think he means players that all managers would want. Names such as the messi's, Rondaldo's etc As a lot of managers have said similiar in pressers before. I really wouldn't pay too much attention to the eaminer, reporting something that was said weeks ago and made into a headline, they do it a lot these days.
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Post by typical on May 29, 2024 14:10:28 GMT 1
Heard someone say that Millwall has bid for Josh Koroma, will leave us approximately 0 wingers when Sorba also departs.
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Post by Colin the Caterpillar on May 29, 2024 14:11:38 GMT 1
Heard someone say that Millwall has bid for Josh Koroma, will leave us approximately 0 wingers when Sorba also departs. Thatās okay, you donāt need wingers for 3-5-2
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2024 14:23:12 GMT 1
I agree with some other posters, Rudoni would be a damn good player with a good manager and better players around him who know where they are playing and what is expected of them.
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Post by dezzly on May 29, 2024 14:29:56 GMT 1
Heard someone say that Millwall has bid for Josh Koroma, will leave us approximately 0 wingers when Sorba also departs. Would leave pat jones.but like the other reply says we will most likely not play with any wingers so doesnāt matter too much.
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Post by bells ringing :) on May 29, 2024 14:35:52 GMT 1
Heard someone say that Millwall has bid for Josh Koroma, will leave us approximately 0 wingers when Sorba also departs. Would leave pat jones.but like the other reply says we will most likely not play with any wingers so doesnāt matter too much. I am sure Koroma, was one of the players told the ycan find another club. Its a shame with JK as he has flahses, but is so incosistant. He has never fulfilled his potential ability .
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Post by dezzly on May 29, 2024 14:40:59 GMT 1
Would leave pat jones.but like the other reply says we will most likely not play with any wingers so doesnāt matter too much. I am sure Koroma, was one of the players told the ycan find another club. Its a shame with JK as he has flahses, but is so incosistant. He has never fulfilled his potential ability . Yeh he has shown has the game there he is just unbelievably inconsistent like you say.And If weāre likely to play a system that he wonāt fit into and we have interest then makes sense to let him go.Iād imagine heās on not bad money too seen as sir Neil got him a new contract last summer.
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Post by incognito on May 29, 2024 14:44:26 GMT 1
Heard someone say that Millwall has bid for Josh Koroma, will leave us approximately 0 wingers when Sorba also departs. That one certainly has the ring of truth to it. They were also rumoured to be keen on Headley a few months ago.
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Post by morrisraspass on May 29, 2024 14:47:46 GMT 1
Get rid of JK, how many chances does he need? We know exactly what he will deliver ... a hot run, a longer cold run, a smaller hot run, a longer colder run ... then ultimately nothing, perhaps a small burst for a new contract rinse repeat. All while ambling around with his fists balled in his shirt sleeves looking like he can't be assed. No thank you.
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Post by dalesterrier on May 29, 2024 14:49:21 GMT 1
Out of contract next summer too
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