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Post by Larry David on Apr 28, 2024 9:05:11 GMT 1
Personally I think AB will walk and I wouldn't be that arsed to be honest.
Been thinking about options for L1
Gary Rowett - only in temp charge of Brum with big Tony coming back in if he recovers from his illness, which we all hope he can.
Chris Houghton - proven at this level and needs a chance to get back being successful
Nigel Pearson - as above, been there as done it and would weed out any bad eggs.
I'd be happy with any of those three over the risk of AB.
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Post by sheps on Apr 28, 2024 9:07:14 GMT 1
Lean Richardson
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Post by detox on Apr 28, 2024 9:16:16 GMT 1
Cherie Lunghi
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Post by eric on Apr 28, 2024 9:19:31 GMT 1
I would try to get Ruben Selles.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Apr 28, 2024 9:23:54 GMT 1
Pete Wild
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Post by robinvar on Apr 28, 2024 9:24:48 GMT 1
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Post by ambryboy on Apr 28, 2024 9:26:16 GMT 1
Graham Potter, or failing that his brother Harry who I hear is absolutely magic.
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Post by Tinpot on Apr 28, 2024 9:29:43 GMT 1
Number 1 candidate for me is Breitenreiter.
If he walks (and TBH I think he will), and Thalhammer hasn't signed on the dotted line for Barnsley, I'd try to nip in ahead of them.
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Post by Terry Jacko on Apr 28, 2024 9:30:45 GMT 1
Like to see what Richie Wellens could do with a bigger club/budget , Reading manager is a good shout.
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Post by eric on Apr 28, 2024 9:31:37 GMT 1
Mike Williamson
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Apr 28, 2024 9:31:43 GMT 1
Number 1 candidate for me is Breitenreiter. If he walks (and TBH I think he will), and Thalhammer hasn't signed on the dotted line for Barnsley, I'd try to nip in ahead of them. Who the chuff is Thalhammer? Sounds like the ftontman of a Norwegian Black Metal band. |
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Post by dugnet on Apr 28, 2024 9:35:31 GMT 1
Before we start hiring new managers it might be a good idea to determine what needs to change across the club.
Since the appointment of Carlos, which for all his failings was an attempt to create an identity and culture by Phil Hodgkinson, our approach has been reactionary and hopeful. I don't think we can take that approach again ie "he should be good at League One level". We need a strategy, identity and plan. You could reasonably challenge, "isn't that what Cartwright should be doing".
As for AB I am not sure what I make of his tenure. I don't know if he's any good but I also think he pretty much gave up on this dressing room a few weeks ago. Is his calling out of the culture an excuse or him telling it as it is? Perhaps a bit of both.
Whatever those in charge need to reflect (they should be continually doing this anyway), be entirely honest about where we are, agree a strategy and a plan and recruit to it. If that's with AB they, and he, need to be committed to that and embed a new mindset across the dressing room.
It's nowhere near as simple as looking at managers and thinking "they'll be OK in League One".
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Post by Wingman on Apr 28, 2024 9:37:39 GMT 1
Absolutely none of the above. Insipid names.
Alex Neil would be my suggestion in League One but as we still have an incumbent manager, I hope he stays and can put his stamp on the club.
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Post by detox on Apr 28, 2024 9:45:59 GMT 1
I have my doubts that AB can control the dressing room. Allowing players to slope off after the game then complaining about....get a grip.!
He seems a bit aloof,and not very dynamic, can't connect with the players...
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Post by eric on Apr 28, 2024 9:48:31 GMT 1
Absolutely none of the above. Insipid names. Alex Neil would be my suggestion in League One but as we still have an incumbent manager, I hope he stays and can put his stamp on the club. Would have been a good choice when Moore left. I hope he would be interested in the job. |
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Post by griffa on Apr 28, 2024 10:06:10 GMT 1
Absolutely none of the above. Insipid names. Alex Neil would be my suggestion in League One but as we still have an incumbent manager, I hope he stays and can put his stamp on the club. Andre Breitenreiter should go, following the game at Ipswich, if the answer is Alex Neil, then God help us all - UTT. |
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Post by specialun on Apr 28, 2024 10:14:58 GMT 1
Before we start hiring new managers it might be a good idea to determine what needs to change across the club. Since the appointment of Carlos, which for all his failings was an attempt to create an identity and culture by Phil Hodgkinson, our approach has been reactionary and hopeful. I don't think we can take that approach again ie "he should be good at League One level". We need a strategy, identity and plan. You could reasonably challenge, "isn't that what Cartwright should be doing". As for AB I am not sure what I make of his tenure. I don't know if he's any good but I also think he pretty much gave up on this dressing room a few weeks ago. Is his calling out of the culture an excuse or him telling it as it is? Perhaps a bit of both. Whatever those in charge need to reflect (they should be continually doing this anyway), be entirely honest about where we are, agree a strategy and a plan and recruit to it. If that's with AB they, and he, need to be committed to that and embed a new mindset across the dressing room. It's nowhere near as simple as looking at managers and thinking "they'll be OK in League One". Agree. I also don’t understand any clamour for the English dog & duck experienced manager merry go round A lot of success in league 1 recently hadn’t been with the most notable names it’s been with up & coming managers - Ipswich, Portsmouth, Plymouth to name a few. You could argue they should succeed but as we’ve said it’s not an easy division to get out probably easy to get top 8 on budget but a promotion a different thing As you say we need a plan we’ve gone one extreme to another inheriting squads designed for the previous occupant. We need a plan, early, an identity and stick to it both in terms of recruitment and sticking with a coach / philosophy to follow it |
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Post by griffa on Apr 28, 2024 10:37:08 GMT 1
Before we start hiring new managers it might be a good idea to determine what needs to change across the club. Since the appointment of Carlos, which for all his failings was an attempt to create an identity and culture by Phil Hodgkinson, our approach has been reactionary and hopeful. I don't think we can take that approach again ie "he should be good at League One level". We need a strategy, identity and plan. You could reasonably challenge, "isn't that what Cartwright should be doing". As for AB I am not sure what I make of his tenure. I don't know if he's any good but I also think he pretty much gave up on this dressing room a few weeks ago. Is his calling out of the culture an excuse or him telling it as it is? Perhaps a bit of both. Whatever those in charge need to reflect (they should be continually doing this anyway), be entirely honest about where we are, agree a strategy and a plan and recruit to it. If that's with AB they, and he, need to be committed to that and embed a new mindset across the dressing room. It's nowhere near as simple as looking at managers and thinking "they'll be OK in League One". Agree. I also don’t understand any clamour for the English dog & duck experienced manager merry go round A lot of success in league 1 recently hadn’t been with the most notable names it’s been with up & coming managers - Ipswich, Portsmouth, Plymouth to name a few. You could argue they should succeed but as we’ve said it’s not an easy division to get out probably easy to get top 8 on budget but a promotion a different thing As you say we need a plan we’ve gone one extreme to another inheriting squads designed for the previous occupant. We need a plan, early, an identity and stick to it both in terms of recruitment and sticking with a coach / philosophy to follow it Seems to me that since our relegation from the Premier League, we've practiced a policy of 'make do & mend.' No way to run a football club, hope we take the opportunity to reset, appoint a good manager. Andre Breitenreiter has made too make mistakes, his belief in playing out from the back, does my head in! His belief in playing counter attack is totally flawed, it worked under Neil & Ronnie, but Andre was found wanting! - UTT |
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Post by Tinpot on Apr 28, 2024 10:45:55 GMT 1
Rowett? One of the best UK based candidates, but not exactly pulled up any trees since taking over at Birmingham, and the football ain't pretty.
Pearson? If we're going down the UK route (and we're after a manager as opposed to a head coach) he's probably the best candidate we could realistically get. He's not without question marks against his name though. Likely to be popular (similarities with Warnock). Not sure he's a particularly good long term option but let's be perfectly honest - given our recent record he'd be due a long service award if he made it to Christmas!
Hughton? Failed horribly at Forest. Even when successful his football makes Moore-ball look adventurous, and there's no guarantee of success.
Leam Richardson? Did a superb job at Wigan. Fell on his arse at Rotherham. Might be one of those managers that does well in a crisis but the normal day-to-day is less successful (compare Rooney at Derby & at Brum for an example). I expect his next job to be in Lg2.
Pete Wild? Done a great job in his current post but I've seen nothing to suggest he could do it at a higher level.
Ruben Selles? An interesting candidate. Done a great job at Reading, and a decent CV before that too.
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Post by Tinpot on Apr 28, 2024 10:47:09 GMT 1
Number 1 candidate for me is Breitenreiter. If he walks (and TBH I think he will), and Thalhammer hasn't signed on the dotted line for Barnsley, I'd try to nip in ahead of them. Who the chuff is Thalhammer? Sounds like the ftontman of a Norwegian Black Metal band. Black Metal would get the stadium rocking! |
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Post by wildhogg on Apr 28, 2024 10:50:05 GMT 1
Presume Duff would be high up on the list, and he'd probably be a good appointment for League 1 in all fairness.
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 28, 2024 10:53:07 GMT 1
Some of those names make me shudder.
Five years ago, some fans were turning their noses up at the suggestion of David Moyes.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Apr 28, 2024 10:55:07 GMT 1
If we go through a full application and interview process again I'll scream. We've done it twice this season so surely we know who we want.
When we went for AB it sounds like someone else pretty much had it before he was presented to us as an option. Surely whoever that was will now be offered the job and we'll see if they still want it
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Post by utttrooper on Apr 28, 2024 11:03:46 GMT 1
I think we should just get Jurgen Klopp. No compensation required either.
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Post by runner76 on Apr 28, 2024 11:06:51 GMT 1
Needs to be a celebrity. Up against Wrexahm and Hollywood and need to get decent deal with TV rights, needs to be someone with bit of pizazz
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Post by benhomly on Apr 28, 2024 11:08:19 GMT 1
I think we should just get Jurgen Klopp. No compensation required either. It'd be a challenge for him, something to get his teeth into |
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Post by alexdire on Apr 28, 2024 11:09:43 GMT 1
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Post by jjamez on Apr 28, 2024 11:09:46 GMT 1
I like the selles option, it did take the reading fans a while to take to him though.
I suppose the likes of Alex Neil, Gary rowett and Nigel Pearson are all steady if not pragmatic options who might be able to neutralise the toxicity in the club. The three are names we probably should have looked at post Moore if not post Warnock with a view to going more expansive this summer. I'd probably say Pearson, he did have times playing nice football with Bristol, the other two have promotions from this league behind them but don't scream rebuild.
If we are rebuilding and are going to be serious about getting shot of the bad apples, then why not copy Ipswich and go for a young coach with arguably an untainted philosophy, Ryan mason from spurs, Anthony Barry from Bayern (he'll probably leave with tuchel), Brian Barry-murphy from Manchester city's eds side.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Apr 28, 2024 11:20:06 GMT 1
I like the selles option, it did take the reading fans a while to take to him though. I suppose the likes of Alex Neil, Gary rowett and Nigel Pearson are all steady if not pragmatic options who might be able to neutralise the toxicity in the club. The three are names we probably should have looked at post Moore if not post Warnock with a view to going more expansive this summer. I'd probably say Pearson, he did have times playing nice football with Bristol, the other two have promotions from this league behind them but don't scream rebuild. If we are rebuilding and are going to be serious about getting shot of the bad apples, then why not copy Ipswich and go for a young coach with arguably an untainted philosophy, Ryan mason from spurs, Anthony Barry from Bayern (he'll probably leave with tuchel), Brian Barry-murphy from Manchester city's eds side. Not sure Alex Neil's ego will be able to fit through the door. |
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Post by utttrooper on Apr 28, 2024 11:21:45 GMT 1
I think we should just get Jurgen Klopp. No compensation required either. It'd be a challenge for him, something to get his teeth into It's one thing doing it with Liverpool and a world cup winner in midfield but it's another thing doing it with Town and Ben Wiles in midfield |
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