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Post by htafcokay on Apr 29, 2024 18:21:14 GMT 1
Come off it. Wiles is up ther with the worst signings in the club’s history and Jones has looked further away from a footballer in his last 2 cameos than he ever has previously. Is he fuck. How come stuff like this just flies under the radar? I get shite left, right and centre off ill-informed people and yet other people come out with such wild takes and no-one ever says owt. |
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Post by uptownfunk on Apr 29, 2024 18:23:48 GMT 1
Come off it. Wiles is up ther with the worst signings in the club’s history and Jones has looked further away from a footballer in his last 2 cameos than he ever has previously. Is he fuck. Who at a cost of £1M Plus has been less effective and had less impact than him? Diakhaby, Mbenza ? Moonie and Pritchard? He’s in that sort of company. I’m trying to think of a player who could run less than him. |
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 29, 2024 18:24:30 GMT 1
Who at a cost of £1M Plus has been less effective and had less impact than him? Diakhaby, Mbenza ? Moonie and Pritchard? He’s in that sort of company. I’m trying to think of a player who could run less than him. David Unsworth. |
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Post by uptownfunk on Apr 29, 2024 18:29:27 GMT 1
Who at a cost of £1M Plus has been less effective and had less impact than him? Diakhaby, Mbenza ? Moonie and Pritchard? He’s in that sort of company. I’m trying to think of a player who could run less than him. David Unsworth. Could call. It was a genuine comment- cos I know there’s been guys we signed who were crocked/legs had gone. Naysmiths legs had gone at full back. Ran in treacle. There was that midfielder I really liked- Damian Johnson- but after his last injury he couldn’t get about the pitch. Wiles is only 25 so we don’t know what the hells happened with him. |
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Post by bluestripe on Apr 29, 2024 18:30:06 GMT 1
The first thing that needs to happen is a merge of this fecking thread, with one of the other ones since Saturday… 😂 From what I’ve read across the weekend, the fall out has been nowhere near as toxic as it could have been, which might be a little worrying in itself… I'm actually quite shocked about how well this has been taken by the fanbase, which as you point out, is worrying in itself. I honestly thought it would get a bit angry and toxic Saturday but everyone just streamed out accepting and apathetic. I'd been getting used to the idea for a month given the abject performances (staying up miraculously would have been a huge bonus for me). It may seem strange but it was almost a relief to me that we could move on after Saturday. |
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Post by Tinpot on Apr 29, 2024 18:30:10 GMT 1
Who at a cost of £1M Plus has been less effective and had less impact than him? Diakhaby, Mbenza ? Moonie and Pritchard? He’s in that sort of company. I’m trying to think of a player who could run less than him. Don't get me wrong, he's fucking dreadful. The marquee signing for a championship side and I'm not convinced he'd be up to the job in Lg2. But significantly cheaper than the likes of Pritchard, Kongolo and Diabenza, in transfer fees and wages alike. I also suspect he's not actively taking the piss. |
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Post by uptownfunk on Apr 29, 2024 18:33:46 GMT 1
Who at a cost of £1M Plus has been less effective and had less impact than him? Diakhaby, Mbenza ? Moonie and Pritchard? He’s in that sort of company. I’m trying to think of a player who could run less than him. Don't get me wrong, he's fucking dreadful. The marquee signing for a championship side and I'm not convinced he'd be up to the job in Lg2. But significantly cheaper than the likes of Pritchard, Kongolo and Diabenza, in transfer fees and wages alike. I also suspect he's not actively taking the piss. That’s partly it- we so desperately needed 1 fuckin plod who could pass the ball- Warnock knew it and signed Ben. Not sure what’s happened tbh. Kongolo - oh my days how good was he on loan… absolute beast.. Then signed and made Boom boom mccombe look like Maldini. Prichard was a dreadful signing by Wagner. Maddison was the Norwich player to get at that time, not his uglier fatter slower smaller kid brother 😆 |
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Post by bluestripe on Apr 29, 2024 18:34:10 GMT 1
Who at a cost of £1M Plus has been less effective and had less impact than him? Diakhaby, Mbenza ? Moonie and Pritchard? He’s in that sort of company. I’m trying to think of a player who could run less than him. Mounié does not deserve to be in the company of those other 3 wasters. |
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Post by uptownfunk on Apr 29, 2024 18:35:35 GMT 1
How the god damn hell did we never have £1M to buy a player in league one or champs then all of a sudden we could buy a player for £10M…& we go out and get Mounie. I don’t believe anyone saw him play. Not anyone that’s watched a lot of football in their lives.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Apr 29, 2024 18:37:09 GMT 1
Tracey Austin anyone?
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Post by uptownfunk on Apr 29, 2024 18:37:40 GMT 1
Who at a cost of £1M Plus has been less effective and had less impact than him? Diakhaby, Mbenza ? Moonie and Pritchard? He’s in that sort of company. I’m trying to think of a player who could run less than him. Mounié does not deserve to be in the company of those other 3 wasters. He’s in there because he cost £10M. He couldn’t run. He couldn’t head it. He couldn’t hold it up. He couldn’t finish. He was a trier but you need more than that for that price. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Apr 29, 2024 18:41:28 GMT 1
How the god damn hell did we never have £1M to buy a player in league one or champs then all of a sudden we could buy a player for £10M…& we go out and get Mounie. I don’t believe anyone saw him play. Not anyone that’s watched a lot of football in their lives. You do understand how modern football works don’t you? A team that scratches around and does well to pay £1m for transfers, all of a sudden gets their hand in the sweetie jar. What do you think agents do? Loads of journeymen footballers knocking around that aren’t fit to lace the boots of Iwan Roberts, but have probably earned scores of £k’s more over the course of their career… Alex Smithies, languishing in the Leicester squad and picking up a fortune, knowing that he won’t get picked and probably doesn’t need to travel… It’s fantasy football with some stupid and rich persons money… Which is what I think some Town fans want to see down here. In some respects I’m glad that we’ve had a reality check, because it might reset a few expectations on here. |
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Post by teddytheterrier on Apr 29, 2024 18:43:02 GMT 1
Wiles is crap but he’s not up there with the like of Pritchard, mbenza and diakhaby.
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Post by bluestripe on Apr 29, 2024 19:17:51 GMT 1
Mounié does not deserve to be in the company of those other 3 wasters. He’s in there because he cost £10M. He couldn’t run. He couldn’t head it. He couldn’t hold it up. He couldn’t finish. He was a trier but you need more than that for that price. A trier does not deserve to be in the company of those other 3. The fact that he is captain of Ligue 1 Brest tells you that much. He certainly had his limitations, but his ability to head the ball was deffo not one of them. |
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Post by k1man999 on Apr 29, 2024 19:22:45 GMT 1
A massive fooking broom to sweep the club from top to bottom.
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Post by Terriersmad on Apr 29, 2024 20:10:55 GMT 1
He’s in there because he cost £10M. He couldn’t run. He couldn’t head it. He couldn’t hold it up. He couldn’t finish. He was a trier but you need more than that for that price. A trier does not deserve to be in the company of those other 3. The fact that he is captain of Ligue 1 Brest tells you that much. He certainly had his limitations, but his ability to head the ball was deffo not one of them. Anyone who says that Steve Mounié couldn't head the ball loses their right to comment on football in general. The bloke had his limitations. His first touch was poor and his hold-up play in general wasn't Premier League quality. He was prone to loss of confidence when we had him, and we certainly saw that in front of goal in his second season. But given service in the air he was phenomenal. Best header of a ball we've had up front since one Andy Booth - he could jump and generate power. I never understood quite why the Cowleys didn't play him more, too. He scored goals at a good old rate in the Championship and if he'd been a regular starter I think we'd have been under less threat than we were that season. What was it, 8 goals in the equivalent of 16 full games or some such, compared to Frazier Campbell's 3 as the preferred starter? |
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Apr 29, 2024 20:17:47 GMT 1
I'm sure we spent £1m on George Donis. That's when £1m was a lot as well.
Now he was crap.
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Post by rockwall on Apr 29, 2024 20:27:28 GMT 1
How the god damn hell did we never have £1M to buy a player in league one or champs then all of a sudden we could buy a player for £10M…& we go out and get Mounie. I don’t believe anyone saw him play. Not anyone that’s watched a lot of football in their lives. You do understand how modern football works don’t you? A team that scratches around and does well to pay £1m for transfers, all of a sudden gets their hand in the sweetie jar. What do you think agents do? Loads of journeymen footballers knocking around that aren’t fit to lace the boots of Iwan Roberts, but have probably earned scores of £k’s more over the course of their career… Alex Smithies, languishing in the Leicester squad and picking up a fortune, knowing that he won’t get picked and probably doesn’t need to travel… It’s fantasy football with some stupid and rich persons money… Which is what I think some Town fans want to see down here. In some respects I’m glad that we’ve had a reality check, because it might reset a few expectations on here. Tbf to Smithies, got injured and had to retire. |
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Post by Polish Hippy on Apr 29, 2024 20:31:17 GMT 1
not sure why you think that. Yanks love a brown-nosing yes man and i speak from many years experience of seeing those type progress Plus he appointed a manager who tells it like it is in the summer - then sacked him in September. And sacked Ann Hough too. |
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Post by soccarena on Apr 29, 2024 20:54:56 GMT 1
Promotion back to the Championship. One objective, the only objective.
No cup run. No tin pot trophy regional final or Wembley final appearance. Minds focused, 46 games count. Nothing else.
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Post by softboy on Apr 29, 2024 21:03:12 GMT 1
And the fans to turn up. We are all pissed off at the moment but I’m sure Derby, Wednesday, Portsmouth, Ipswich etc fans have all felt the same recently. Bring on August.
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Post by FloridaTerrier on Apr 29, 2024 21:04:26 GMT 1
Who at a cost of £1M Plus has been less effective and had less impact than him? Diakhaby, Mbenza ? Moonie and Pritchard? He’s in that sort of company. I’m trying to think of a player who could run less than him. While I think Wiles has been a massive disappointment thus far. I am concerned about his fitness issues. I would like to give him the benefit of the doubt and like to see how he performs next year after a proper preseason and not a pre season playing against pub teams. He was signed late in the window, but I think was pushed into playing too early due to injury crisis and lack of quality in the team, and played himself in to a dire underperforming form, where his confidence was well and truly knocked. He's technically sound, but he's blowing out his arse after 10 minutes. |
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Post by King Curtis on Apr 29, 2024 21:12:30 GMT 1
Mounié does not deserve to be in the company of those other 3 wasters. He’s in there because he cost £10M. He couldn’t run. He couldn’t head it. He couldn’t hold it up. He couldn’t finish. He was a trier but you need more than that for that price. It's not his fault that we paid £10m. Steve Mounié was never part of the problem. He gave his all and is now playing at a high level. Big respect to SM. |
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Post by Orinoco on Apr 29, 2024 21:56:49 GMT 1
They could do. I remember Lee Clark paying a few players off in the very early days of Dean Hoyle. David Unsworth and Chris Lucketti are two that spring to mind, though admittedly they didn't have a year to run. Scott High Jesus 🫣 Scott High would struggle to get in my Subbuteo line up!! |
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Post by Big Ern on Apr 29, 2024 22:14:13 GMT 1
How come stuff like this just flies under the radar? I get shite left, right and centre off ill-informed people and yet other people come out with such wild takes and no-one ever says owt. To be fair I would have called him out for his utter bollocks but I've been working all day and Bugliner beat me to it |
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Post by dxterrier on Apr 30, 2024 0:43:13 GMT 1
The last 2 times we got out of the 3rd division we had workhorses as well as skill and passion in the team which is what we need
1995:
Tom Cowan
Darren Bullock
Iain Dunn
Ronnie Jepson
Andy Booth
2012:
Peter Clarke
Gary Roberts
Lee Novak
They are the kind of lads we need, not some of the uninterested mob we have now, plus a true midfield playmaker is essential
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Post by uptownfunk on Apr 30, 2024 0:55:08 GMT 1
Who at a cost of £1M Plus has been less effective and had less impact than him? Diakhaby, Mbenza ? Moonie and Pritchard? He’s in that sort of company. I’m trying to think of a player who could run less than him. While I think Wiles has been a massive disappointment thus far. I am concerned about his fitness issues. I would like to give him the benefit of the doubt and like to see how he performs next year after a proper preseason and not a pre season playing against pub teams. He was signed late in the window, but I think was pushed into playing too early due to injury crisis and lack of quality in the team, and played himself in to a dire underperforming form, where his confidence was well and truly knocked. He's technically sound, but he's blowing out his arse after 10 minutes. This preseason thing is over egged a bit nowadays imo. As a professional footballer or any athlete you should be fit any time. Peak fitness within a few weeks and match fit 2-3 games later. Not a whole season. I don’t mean any harm against him..it’s just his signing was so important and the one along with no striker until months too late, and those two things did for us really. 1 good ball playing midfielder/playmaker, a decent centre forward - Healey. A good keeper - Nichols, a good centre back preferably 2. Helik/Lees. Get some good runners around them and young players etc, set piece. We might not have won the league but we wouldn’t have been relegated. |
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Post by Tinpot on Apr 30, 2024 7:46:29 GMT 1
I'm sure we spent £1m on George Donis. That's when £1m was a lot as well. Now he was crap. For almost two decades, Georgios Donis was the yardstick by which I compared all the shit transfers. The epitome of absolute fucking bobbins recruitment, or so I thought. Then we got to the Premier League and made not one, but three signings that were all worse than him in a single window, to compliment the signing of that fucking gnome (who to be fair had looked ok in that first half season). In addition to the other bloody dross we signed. I wouldn't put Wiles even in Donis's category. And I say this as someone who would prefer to see Scott High or Josh Austerfield in the side than Wiles. |
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Post by uptownfunk on Apr 30, 2024 8:47:49 GMT 1
How the god damn hell did we never have £1M to buy a player in league one or champs then all of a sudden we could buy a player for £10M…& we go out and get Mounie. I don’t believe anyone saw him play. Not anyone that’s watched a lot of football in their lives. You do understand how modern football works don’t you? A team that scratches around and does well to pay £1m for transfers, all of a sudden gets their hand in the sweetie jar. What do you think agents do? Loads of journeymen footballers knocking around that aren’t fit to lace the boots of Iwan Roberts, but have probably earned scores of £k’s more over the course of their career… Alex Smithies, languishing in the Leicester squad and picking up a fortune, knowing that he won’t get picked and probably doesn’t need to travel… It’s fantasy football with some stupid and rich persons money… Which is what I think some Town fans want to see down here. In some respects I’m glad that we’ve had a reality check, because it might reset a few expectations on here. Money brings complexities. It’s absolutely not an excuse to be stupid and wasteful. The decision makers from that time ought hang their head in shame at the mis management which was as bad as any promoted club since the prem era. |
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Post by uptownfunk on Apr 30, 2024 8:49:32 GMT 1
I'm sure we spent £1m on George Donis. That's when £1m was a lot as well. Now he was crap. For almost two decades, Georgios Donis was the yardstick by which I compared all the shit transfers. The epitome of absolute fucking bobbins recruitment, or so I thought. Then we got to the Premier League and made not one, but three signings that were all worse than him in a single window, to compliment the signing of that fucking gnome (who to be fair had looked ok in that first half season). In addition to the other bloody dross we signed. I wouldn't put Wiles even in Donis's category. And I say this as someone who would prefer to see Scott High or Josh Austerfield in the side than Wiles. It’s an incredibly low bar but George Donis could run a bit. That’s more than can be said for Wiles sadly. But who knows maybe like a lot people seem to think - he’ll suddenly become good next season after a full pre season… |
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