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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Apr 30, 2024 20:24:20 GMT 1
We need to be careful. There's lots of talk about us being the "biggest club in league one" and the expectation is that we are aiming to be champions...
And that's right, we should be. But I hope that KN (or others) think that its easy. It isn't.
For a start we are going to (rightfully) lose most of our squad, we need a rebuild which may or may not work. We need the quality of players to match our ambition; if we want to go back to the championship and not yo-yo or have to replace half the squad we need championship level players.
The warnings are there. Posh, reading, Charlton, derby, Bolton...
All probably thought it would be easy to come back up. Some circumstances are different but if we don't rebuild and invest we maybe no different.
KN - please don't underestimate this league as you seem to have done the championship. All levels in England are hard when you drop into them. Dropping into them means that you aren't good enough for the level above and you are dropping in with teams more your level.
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Post by soccarena on Apr 30, 2024 20:34:55 GMT 1
The expectation is promotion - a non negotiable.
This relegation has been avoidable and everyone saw it coming from September.
So no self congratulation about cup runs in a third rate competition needed. Those who have overseen this mess need to solve this mess. Only promotion will do.
The division is grotty - we need to be set up for it in the right way rather than relying on existing players who have in the main failed.
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Post by callum9061 on Apr 30, 2024 20:38:47 GMT 1
Top 6 minimum, preferably fighting between 1 - 4, no excuses
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Post by jqhtfc on Apr 30, 2024 20:42:17 GMT 1
It shouldn’t be any less than promotion
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Post by jqhtfc on Apr 30, 2024 20:45:18 GMT 1
We need to be careful. There's lots of talk about us being the "biggest club in league one" and the expectation is that we are aiming to be champions... And that's right, we should be. But I hope that KN (or others) think that its easy. It isn't. For a start we are going to (rightfully) lose most of our squad, we need a rebuild which may or may not work. We need the quality of players to match our ambition; if we want to go back to the championship and not yo-yo or have to replace half the squad we need championship level players. The warnings are there. Posh, reading, Charlton, derby, Bolton... All probably thought it would be easy to come back up. Some circumstances are different but if we don't rebuild and invest we maybe no different. KN - please don't underestimate this league as you seem to have done the championship. All levels in England are hard when you drop into them. Dropping into them means that you aren't good enough for the level above and you are dropping in with teams more your level. You say the warnings are there but everyone of them sides bar Peterborough who yo-yo and you could include Portsmouth and derby in that as well have had massive financial issues, that shouldn’t be an issue with us. |
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Post by boooothy on Apr 30, 2024 20:45:33 GMT 1
Get out of every cup asap. I don’t expect automatic promotion but it has to be the one and only aim.
We’ve fallen into a cesspit. Let’s not swim about in it.
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Apr 30, 2024 20:46:50 GMT 1
Sorry, it needs to be promotion. Title challenge ideally.
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Post by workshyfop on Apr 30, 2024 20:48:47 GMT 1
Not being involved in a relegation battle would be a novelty. I think there’s a lot of decent sides in League 1. I’m hoping we can improve the squad and be mid-table.
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Post by stinkypete on Apr 30, 2024 20:51:49 GMT 1
Top 2 is a must and has to be the realistic expectation.
I don’t want to hear talk of play offs or consolidation we need to walk into that league with the belief that we don’t belong there and are “just visiting”!
We need to sell out every away game and install a belief in the players (hopefully new look squad) that not only are we too good for league one but we’d comfortably compete in the championship.
Far too long we’ve had the underdog role ingrained into this club, from the start of next season that HAS to go!
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Apr 30, 2024 20:53:59 GMT 1
Promoted by early March is the only acceptable outcome
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Post by zico13 on Apr 30, 2024 20:54:31 GMT 1
We need to build a team that plays passing football. So the manager and recruitment needs to reflect that. Develop a modern style that will give us the chance to compete when we return to the Championship. I'm not expecting an immediate return, but a move towards this aim. Then we'll see where that takes us.
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Post by detox on Apr 30, 2024 20:57:11 GMT 1
Maybe 5 years of mid table consolidation while the jss footprint gets redeveloped for KN..then in 2030 we push for play offs, 2033 back to championship, KN has deceased and new owners from Rwanda..I'll be. 83, or dead by then...
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Post by theterrier42 on Apr 30, 2024 20:59:30 GMT 1
If we don’t go invincible I’ll be livid
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Post by Moooooy on Apr 30, 2024 21:01:02 GMT 1
As we are today I think we’d finish between 15th and 10th. It all depends on how the summer goes. The planning needs to be underway now in terms of who the manager is going to be (if Andre doesn’t want it we need him replaced very quickly), the style we want to play, signing the players to fit into that style, getting rid of the bad eggs/dead wood, selling the players we need to balance the books. We need all that sorting by the start of pre season. If we get our arse in gear with that then I’d expect a top 6 finish, hopefully a shot at the top 2.
I really hope we get it right but based on the last two years I’m not at all confident we will.
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Post by Junior & Onuora on Apr 30, 2024 21:01:21 GMT 1
We need to build a team that plays passing football. So the manager and recruitment needs to reflect that. Develop a modern style that will give us the chance to compete when we return to the Championship. I'm not expecting an immediate return, but a move towards this aim. Then we'll see where that takes us. Why do we need to play passing football? We need to play WINNING football. I don't give a monkey's if we put John Beck to shame with our style of football. Bollocks to this West Ham philosophy of rather losing 5-4 than win 1-0. We need wins. It becomes a habit. We need to do what we need to do to become a winning team again - even if that is ugly. |
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Post by utttrooper on Apr 30, 2024 21:02:29 GMT 1
I think we'll get 136 points and bottle the perfect season on the final day of the season by drawing to whoever is 24th at home.
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Post by King Curtis on Apr 30, 2024 21:03:47 GMT 1
We need to build a team that plays passing football. So the manager and recruitment needs to reflect that. Develop a modern style that will give us the chance to compete when we return to the Championship. I'm not expecting an immediate return, but a move towards this aim. Then we'll see where that takes us. Most teams pass the ball to each other. We need a style that wins matches. |
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Post by King Curtis on Apr 30, 2024 21:05:40 GMT 1
If we don’t go invincible I’ll be livid Will you be a bit calmer if we tell you that's never going to happen? |
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Post by waggers on Apr 30, 2024 21:12:49 GMT 1
We need to be careful. There's lots of talk about us being the "biggest club in league one" and the expectation is that we are aiming to be champions... And that's right, we should be. But I hope that KN (or others) think that its easy. It isn't. For a start we are going to (rightfully) lose most of our squad, we need a rebuild which may or may not work. We need the quality of players to match our ambition; if we want to go back to the championship and not yo-yo or have to replace half the squad we need championship level players. The warnings are there. Posh, reading, Charlton, derby, Bolton... All probably thought it would be easy to come back up. Some circumstances are different but if we don't rebuild and invest we maybe no different. KN - please don't underestimate this league as you seem to have done the championship. All levels in England are hard when you drop into them. Dropping into them means that you aren't good enough for the level above and you are dropping in with teams more your level. We need a proper DOF and recruitment team. The scattergun approach to January doesn't fill me with confidence. No idea what we'll do next season, if I had more faith in the recruitment team I'd be relatively optimistic. |
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Post by ben1987 on Apr 30, 2024 21:20:59 GMT 1
Win the league.
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 30, 2024 21:22:33 GMT 1
Top 6 as a bare minimum.
Realistically, probably midtable mediocrity unless there is significant investment to the squad.
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Post by robinvar on Apr 30, 2024 21:23:37 GMT 1
With the right pruning and augmenting of the squad we should be optimistic. But it won't be easy. To think so is setting up for total failure.
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Post by Sio on Apr 30, 2024 21:24:19 GMT 1
Top 2. Playoffs absolute minimum.
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Apr 30, 2024 21:27:57 GMT 1
All the comments saying the same.
Yes the top should be the aim but let's do a reality check...
Current squad and situation, mid table.
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Post by drayltonboy (independent) on Apr 30, 2024 21:28:17 GMT 1
Happy to wait and see
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Post by BlueValour on Apr 30, 2024 22:46:00 GMT 1
Get out of every cup asap. I don’t expect automatic promotion but it has to be the one and only aim. <snip> I strongly disagree. Winning creates a winning mentality so we should try to win all our games. Further, a cup run lifts spirits and an away trip to a big Prem ground brings in revenue and provides a good day out for fans. |
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Post by nicovaesen on Apr 30, 2024 22:46:24 GMT 1
Relegation
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Post by DuffMan on Apr 30, 2024 22:46:50 GMT 1
The aim is always to finish as high as possible I'm sure. Reality is we have lots to do, top 6 is well within our reach but we have to get a lot of things right before then, not sure we have the people in place to do that at the minute.
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Post by Tinpot on Apr 30, 2024 23:12:12 GMT 1
There's so much uncertainty that I genuinely have no idea what is realistic.
Which players are leaving? Which ones are coming in?
Who is the head coach (I'm assuming that the rumours of AB's departure are likely to be true)?
How soon are the incomings sorted?
Who else is joining us (Brum, Blackburn, Plymouth??)
What happens at other clubs?
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Post by Tinpot on Apr 30, 2024 23:14:13 GMT 1
We need to build a team that plays passing football. So the manager and recruitment needs to reflect that. Develop a modern style that will give us the chance to compete when we return to the Championship. I'm not expecting an immediate return, but a move towards this aim. Then we'll see where that takes us. Most teams pass the ball to each other. We need a style that wins matches. I'm glad you said "most" and not "all". Otherwise I'd wonder if you'd seen us play recently! |
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