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Post by Gag N Bone Man on May 1, 2024 12:32:19 GMT 1
Our goal should be automatic promotion. Our expectation should be that this will be difficult but achievable with the right personnel (on and off the pitch) following the right strategy.
Whether AB is the man or not needs to be decided before Ipswich. If he is to leave it should be announced Monday and the new man should be in place by the end of May. KN needs to back whoever is in charge by sanctioning both the culling of the squad and the signing of new players. Any player with a shite attitude (as evaluated by those within the club, not armchair pundits like us) needs moving on unless there is a realistic expectation that they can be rehabilitated.
And the season ticket prices should reflect both the disappointment of relegation but also the need to rebuild. A maximum of a £50 increase, and no more. If we need to work towards more increases in subsequent years, so be it, but that will be a lot easier to justify ion the back of immediate promotion back to the championship.
In short, a new start across the board. Reset the 3 year plan to a 5 year plan, starting now.
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Post by Gag N Bone Man on May 1, 2024 12:36:53 GMT 1
Also, as a side note, if the club aren't already talking to Wrexham about somehow guaranteeing that Patrick Stewart and Ryan Reynlods are at both games they need their head reading. Any marketing department's dream seeing as Stewart is in the new Deadpool movie. Yes, I can hear your eyes rolling, but anything that generates interest and income has to be a positive.
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Post by Detective Boyle on May 1, 2024 12:39:54 GMT 1
Depends who we bring in players wise. This bunch of losers aren’t capable of winning football matches consistently regardless of the division, I see us probably between 6th and 12th.
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Post by royrace on May 1, 2024 12:44:27 GMT 1
Depends what Kevin has to say. I've zero faith in Kevin, Edwards and Cartwright having the required experience, judgement and intelligence to get out of L1. Zero. André if staying will need a lot of support in identifying players etc. Hoping there will be changes and a promise of investment, whatever that is allowed to look like in L1 with a huge drop in revenue.
Don't have any expectations at all at this stage.
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Post by SN0W on May 1, 2024 12:52:52 GMT 1
the toss of a coin - will we be fielding another bunch of disjointed players? or will we reorganise, strengthen and come out fighting?
I'd prefer the latter, but it's all in the hands of our owner. Is he a quick learner?
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Post by waggers on May 1, 2024 12:54:51 GMT 1
Depends what Kevin has to say. I've zero faith in Kevin, Edwards and Cartwright having the required experience, judgement and intelligence to get out of L1. Zero. André if staying will need a lot of support in identifying players etc. Hoping there will be changes and a promise of investment, whatever that is allowed to look like in L1 with a huge drop in revenue. Don't have any expectations at all at this stage. I'm pretty much the same, the issue for me isn't the manager it's 'Kevin, Edwards and Cartwright'. I chuck Kevin in there because he gave the latter two power. The squad and higher ranking staff needs a complete reset and I don't believe the likes of Edwards and Cartwright would be able to properly run a National League team. I reckon mid table next season, unless we start badly and the wheels come off.....again. it genuinely wouldn't surprise me if we ended up in the familiar relegation scrap again.
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Post by mosher on May 1, 2024 14:49:06 GMT 1
Also, as a side note, if the club aren't already talking to Wrexham about somehow guaranteeing that Patrick Stewart and Ryan Reynlods are at both games they need their head reading. Any marketing department's dream seeing as Stewart is in the new Deadpool movie. Yes, I can hear your eyes rolling, but anything that generates interest and income has to be a positive. Professor X vs Wade "Deadpool" Wilson at dizzy penalties? Edit: Can't fecking wait til July for Deadpool 3
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Post by drayltonboy (independent) on May 1, 2024 16:02:20 GMT 1
You my friend, are an absolute wazzock. Obviously, I fear that we must agree to disagree. Hey ho.
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on May 1, 2024 16:26:15 GMT 1
All the comments saying the same. Yes the top should be the aim but let's do a reality check... Current squad and situation, mid table.What about when we lose our best players? Then my expectations lower. It'll depend on the signings whether they raise up. People need to be realistic, we are not a good side, with probably no manager. We aren't suddenly going to gel and start playing amazingly, losing our best players only makes that worse. The rebuild is huge.
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Post by jqhtfc on May 1, 2024 16:51:14 GMT 1
What about when we lose our best players? Then my expectations lower. It'll depend on the signings whether they raise up. People need to be realistic, we are not a good side, with probably no manager. We aren't suddenly going to gel and start playing amazingly, losing our best players only makes that worse. The rebuild is huge. You’re correct we aren’t a good a side but neither are Plymouth who won league 1 with a 100 points last year, there’s a big drop in quality if and it’s a big if we get it right regarding recruitment there’s nothing at all to say we shouldn’t be well up there.
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Post by galpharm2400 on May 1, 2024 17:05:06 GMT 1
We need to be careful. There's lots of talk about us being the "biggest club in league one" and the expectation is that we are aiming to be champions... And that's right, we should be. But I hope that KN (or others) think that its easy. It isn't. For a start we are going to (rightfully) lose most of our squad, we need a rebuild which may or may not work. We need the quality of players to match our ambition; if we want to go back to the championship and not yo-yo or have to replace half the squad we need championship level players. The warnings are there. Posh, reading, Charlton, derby, Bolton... All probably thought it would be easy to come back up. Some circumstances are different but if we don't rebuild and invest we maybe no different. KN - please don't underestimate this league as you seem to have done the championship. All levels in England are hard when you drop into them. Dropping into them means that you aren't good enough for the level above and you are dropping in with teams more your level. My expectation will be formed on day one of the season or the last day of the summer window, further confirmed by Januarys transfer window. The manager whoever it may be will further compound these expectations. As of now, I expect a performance of fight and some dignity on saturday.
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Post by terrier10 on May 1, 2024 17:13:23 GMT 1
Rotherham yo-yo every year.
Plymouth had 100+ points.
Apart from Watford, we have lost the least games in the bottom half.
Granted, after Rotherham we have won the fewest.
Based on the fact that we were “in a position of strength” and felt that we wouldn’t be going down the plan should be to get back at the first attempt.
The expectation should 100% be to win the Division.
There needs to be a cultural reset within the club and a change of mentality…hopefully that then also passes to the fan base. Sick of this “underdog” tag.
Whether in League 1 or the Championship - we are Huddersfield Town. We have a history to be proud of. We might not be the biggest but we are far from being the bloody smallest!
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Post by CurlyWurly on May 1, 2024 17:14:20 GMT 1
I'd take players who can pass 5 yards
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Post by goodbet on May 1, 2024 17:33:36 GMT 1
Depends on who KN puts in to manage to day to day dealings at the club and what budget there is to do it with.
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Post by sabailand on May 1, 2024 17:34:45 GMT 1
Assuming we'll have some new players the playoffs woud be good but automatic would be great, then again it might take a season or more of consolidation, theres bigger clubs than us who have wallowed in that division for a while.
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Post by alanalanleeee on May 1, 2024 17:49:17 GMT 1
Realistically we should be aiming to come straight back up again, who cares how?
Would be class to see us win a league/anything
However, no matter who we’re playing first game of the season I absolutely guarantee we will lose.
I honestly think we’ll be there a few years but with some smart investment and long term planning we will be back in the championship within the next 3-5 years.
There’s your realistic expectations.
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Post by Tinpot on May 1, 2024 19:17:06 GMT 1
Top 2 100%. Plymouth are crap and they walked that league. Ipswich are a cracking side and even they couldn't win that league.
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Post by Tinpot on May 1, 2024 19:22:55 GMT 1
Depends what Kevin has to say. I've zero faith in Kevin, Edwards and Cartwright having the required experience, judgement and intelligence to get out of L1. Zero. André if staying will need a lot of support in identifying players etc. Hoping there will be changes and a promise of investment, whatever that is allowed to look like in L1 with a huge drop in revenue. Don't have any expectations at all at this stage. Some people said they wouldn't get out of the Championship too, yet they've done so at their first attempt!
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Post by Tinpot on May 1, 2024 19:24:36 GMT 1
Also, as a side note, if the club aren't already talking to Wrexham about somehow guaranteeing that Patrick Stewart and Ryan Reynlods are at both games they need their head reading. Any marketing department's dream seeing as Stewart is in the new Deadpool movie. Yes, I can hear your eyes rolling, but anything that generates interest and income has to be a positive. I wonder whether Justasmithers might mention that to his mate.
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Post by Tinpot on May 1, 2024 19:32:22 GMT 1
Are we talking realistic expectations, or realistic hopes?
My realistic hope is that we ship out the ones who aren't committed, replace them where necessary and invest in a midfield. My realistic hope is that this summer is spent making us serious candidates for the title, with an eye on the following season being successful back in the Championship.
My realistic expectation is that we spend a lot, but once again fail to put together a coherent plan, lurching from one expensive crisis of our own making after another, and finish around 16th.
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Post by hd9terrier on May 1, 2024 21:47:54 GMT 1
Come on surely top 2. Looks like a weaker league one next season, Rhodes is one of the top scorers and he’s been injured since March. There’s no excuses anymore not to have a good window. Aim to win the league, build a winning culture and return to the championship with momentum.
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on May 1, 2024 22:30:43 GMT 1
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Post by themanfromatlantis on May 1, 2024 22:37:10 GMT 1
That’s bonkers.
Some people need to drink less, or stay off the waccy baccy…
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Post by themanfromatlantis on May 1, 2024 22:39:12 GMT 1
Also, as a side note, if the club aren't already talking to Wrexham about somehow guaranteeing that Patrick Stewart and Ryan Reynlods are at both games they need their head reading. Any marketing department's dream seeing as Stewart is in the new Deadpool movie. Yes, I can hear your eyes rolling, but anything that generates interest and income has to be a positive. I can just see Tog now… You’ve been waiting for this all week Town fans… Please welcome onto the pitch, Patrick Reynolds and Ryan Stewart… Out walk 2 bemused Town fans…
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Post by Dillinger on May 1, 2024 22:41:09 GMT 1
Consolidation and a period of squad build next season, and a promotion push to season thereafter...
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