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Post by Richard1986 on May 4, 2024 16:38:46 GMT 1
Judging by team selection today. Lee Nichols and Sorba on release/sell list?
Manager obviously not happy with mentality of squad/certain players?.
We need to sign at least 4 leaders down the spine of the team imo and get back to signing players with correct mentality.
Hogg needs replacing. Two tackling midfielders. Quality down the flanks is wank.
Need a fast 20goal a season striker and another target man.
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Post by Ox Terrier on May 4, 2024 16:41:09 GMT 1
Judging by team selection today. Lee Nichols and Sorba on release/sell list? Manager obviously not happy with mentality of squad/certain players?. We need to sign at least 4 leaders down the spine of the team imo and get back to signing players with correct mentality. Hogg needs replacing. Two tackling midfielders. Quality down the flanks is wank. Need a fast 20goal a season striker and another target man. We need some creativity from the central midfield too. |
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Post by bluewhitesapper on May 4, 2024 16:45:24 GMT 1
We need a midfield capable of retaining the ball and creating chances.
Can't remember a worse midfield than our current one. Offers nothing going forward but yet offers very little protection to our defence.
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Post by Sio on May 4, 2024 16:46:44 GMT 1
I would literally release or sell the lot of them, minus Helik, if we could.
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Post by ringdisco on May 4, 2024 16:47:01 GMT 1
Judging by team selection today. Lee Nichols and Sorba on release/sell list? Manager obviously not happy with mentality of squad/certain players?. We need to sign at least 4 leaders down the spine of the team imo and get back to signing players with correct mentality. Hogg needs replacing. Two tackling midfielders. Quality down the flanks is wank. Need a fast 20goal a season striker and another target man. Nicholls asked and answered, not a bad apple. Most likely leaving though, I'd guess. |
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Post by Larry David on May 4, 2024 16:49:39 GMT 1
Can I have Ben Wiles to mow my lawn. Reckon that's the limit of his capability.
Wankest signing for decades. Up there with Alex Dyer.
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Post by specialun on May 4, 2024 16:59:49 GMT 1
Can I have Ben Wiles to mow my lawn. Reckon that's the limit of his capability. Wankest signing for decades. Up there with Alex Dyer. Let’s see after a pre season. I just think he surely can’t be this bad if Burnley were after him last season? |
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Post by Floyds on May 4, 2024 17:14:29 GMT 1
I would literally release or sell the lot of them, minus Helik, if we could. I think all Town fans would agree. They can all get in the bin. Impossible with most under contract though so we’ll be stuck with them next season 👌 |
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Post by rougeboy31 on May 4, 2024 17:26:12 GMT 1
Can I have Ben Wiles to mow my lawn. Reckon that's the limit of his capability. Wankest signing for decades. Up there with Alex Dyer. Let’s see after a pre season. I just think he surely can’t be this bad if Burnley were after him last season? I’d agree but Burnley’s signing this season haven’t exactly made their scouting department look good. |
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Post by kwami-hodouto on May 4, 2024 17:34:31 GMT 1
We really need a goal scoring creative midfielder. Who was the last midfielder we had that scored over 10 goals in a season?
Elliot Lee has scored 16 goals from midfield for Wrexham this season. Yes, it was in league two, but I would be very surprised if he isn't very effective for them next season.
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Post by cuz on May 4, 2024 17:38:52 GMT 1
I would literally release or sell the lot of them, minus Helik, if we could. I think all Town fans would agree. They can all get in the bin. Impossible with most under contract though so we’ll be stuck with them next season 👌 I would make the bad apples stay, leave them to rot, don't give them a squad number, make them see out their contracts litter picking in a hi viz vest!. Mind you probably suit many who can get in the pub after a daily round of golf! Rotten to the core. |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on May 4, 2024 17:45:25 GMT 1
Pretty much everyone can go. I’d keep Maxwell, sell Nicholls, would keep Helik but I’d imagine he’ll be off. Keep Pearson, would be a decent centre half option in league one.
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Post by Tinpot on May 4, 2024 17:46:05 GMT 1
Can I have Ben Wiles to mow my lawn. Reckon that's the limit of his capability. Wankest signing for decades. Up there with Alex Dyer. Let’s see after a pre season. I just think he surely can’t be this bad if Burnley were after him last season? Burnley were after him before his nasty injury. A lot of players will come back from injury as good as before, but Wiles most certainly hasn't. He might be a lot better after a preseason (I'm assuming Rotherham's preparation was as bad as ours) but I've seen nothing about him to suggest he'll be able to do a job in League 1 either. |
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Post by Tinpot on May 4, 2024 17:47:16 GMT 1
Judging by team selection today. Lee Nichols and Sorba on release/sell list? Manager obviously not happy with mentality of squad/certain players?. We need to sign at least 4 leaders down the spine of the team imo and get back to signing players with correct mentality. Hogg needs replacing. Two tackling midfielders. Quality down the flanks is wank. Need a fast 20goal a season striker and another target man. Andre Breitenreiter already mentioned the situation with Lee Nicholls in the presser. Not a bad egg. Judging by today, the bad apples are Sorba, Burgzorg, Diarra & Headley. Fair to say they've all played their last games for the club. |
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Post by bluestripe on May 4, 2024 17:49:00 GMT 1
I would literally release or sell the lot of them, minus Helik, if we could. Why would you try to sell Healey? Only rationale I could perhaps think of is that he is (apparently) injury prone? Why would you get sell both Maxwell and Nicholls? Both Championship keepers with good attitudes. We are unlikely to find better. Why would you try to sell both Pearson and Lees? Both senior pros with good attitudes who are now perhaps limited at Championship level, but surely at least one of them would be a good option at L1 level? Kasumu - not suitable for a 25 man squad at L1 level? Turton & Ruffels - both proven full backs at L1 level, the former having been in a L1 promotion winning side. You could argue they are injury prone, but other than that, I would have thought they'd be a good option at L1 level |
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Post by DuncShearer* on May 4, 2024 17:54:42 GMT 1
Can I have Ben Wiles to mow my lawn. Reckon that's the limit of his capability. Wankest signing for decades. Up there with Alex Dyer. Let’s see after a pre season. I just think he surely can’t be this bad if Burnley were after him last season? That Injury has fucked him big time I'd get rid ASAP |
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Post by Sio on May 4, 2024 17:58:32 GMT 1
I would literally release or sell the lot of them, minus Helik, if we could. Why would you try to sell Healey? Only rationale I could perhaps think of is that he is (apparently) injury prone? Why would you get sell both Maxwell and Nicholls? Both Championship keepers with good attitudes. We are unlikely to find better. Why would you try to sell both Pearson and Lees? Both senior pros with good attitudes who are now perhaps limited at Championship level, but surely at least one of them would be a good option at L1 level? Kasumu - not suitable for a 25 man squad at L1 level? Turton & Ruffels - both proven full backs at L1 level, the former having been in a L1 promotion winning side. You could argue they are injury prone, but other than that, I would have thought they'd be a good option at L1 level Loser mentality the lot of them, unfortunately |
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Post by bluestripe on May 4, 2024 18:17:32 GMT 1
Why would you try to sell Healey? Only rationale I could perhaps think of is that he is (apparently) injury prone? Why would you get sell both Maxwell and Nicholls? Both Championship keepers with good attitudes. We are unlikely to find better. Why would you try to sell both Pearson and Lees? Both senior pros with good attitudes who are now perhaps limited at Championship level, but surely at least one of them would be a good option at L1 level? Kasumu - not suitable for a 25 man squad at L1 level? Turton & Ruffels - both proven full backs at L1 level, the former having been in a L1 promotion winning side. You could argue they are injury prone, but other than that, I would have thought they'd be a good option at L1 level Loser mentality the lot of them, unfortunately Is that the case for all relegated teams, or just Town? I don't believe Leicester cleared out their squad, for example, at the end of last season. And Healey has developed that mentality since joining in January? Or did he bring it with him? Turton - did he bring a winner's mentality from Blackpool when they were promoted, but now permanently has a loser's mentality? |
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Post by Kirchenglocken on May 4, 2024 18:22:56 GMT 1
New signings would include:
Gk
LB
RB
2/3 x CB
2/3 x CM
2 x Wideman/Winger
1/2 new CF.
Completely depends on who stays. Will BOTH Helik and Balker go? What about Spencer? If he stays then a new RB isn't necessary. Do Healey, Bojan and Ward all stay? If none leave it makes more than 1 new CF difficult to bring in. If we shift a couple then more gaps appear.
I think between 8-12 signings are needed, likely to be 8/9 with a couple of loans but it could be less if young lads are given opportunities at a lower level and we re-sign those out of contract.
To add a bit more info, I would wanna see a long term replacement come in as GK who can also play, fullbacks capable of attacking, centre halves proven as top players at Lg1 level, centre mids able to dictate and control the game and quality passers of the ball without sacrificing defensive solidity, wide players capable of both creating and scoring and a centre forward who will score(yes now I must be taking the mick.. 🙃)
A good mix of players in their prime and those not far off entering it, all capable of enabling us to play a proper intense pressing game without being crap on the ball. Ultimately capable to adapt to play whatever style is needed to win games.
Shouldn't be too hard, right? 🤔
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Post by keefer on May 4, 2024 18:28:06 GMT 1
Why would you try to sell Healey? Only rationale I could perhaps think of is that he is (apparently) injury prone? Why would you get sell both Maxwell and Nicholls? Both Championship keepers with good attitudes. We are unlikely to find better. Why would you try to sell both Pearson and Lees? Both senior pros with good attitudes who are now perhaps limited at Championship level, but surely at least one of them would be a good option at L1 level? Kasumu - not suitable for a 25 man squad at L1 level? Turton & Ruffels - both proven full backs at L1 level, the former having been in a L1 promotion winning side. You could argue they are injury prone, but other than that, I would have thought they'd be a good option at L1 level Loser mentality the lot of them, unfortunately Players or supporters? |
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Post by Kirchenglocken on May 4, 2024 18:44:06 GMT 1
Nicholls or Maxwell..
Lees or Pearson
Ruffels and Turton
Hogg and Kasumu
Wiles or Rudoni
Jones or Koroma
Healey and Bojan
All compete to get into the team, none of em (ehh maybe the strikers) should be guaranteed to start.
If 3 or 4 of them force their way in and perform then fair play.
Wagner had 7 new signings in his mainstay team, 8 including all players signed during his tenure.
Carlos had 5 new signings in his team(much less mainstay), 8 including all players signed during his tenure.
André, Worthy or the ghost of Huddersfield's past, the manager has to be backed and the club cannot be 'hoping' once more that what we currently have will suffice. Be ruthless or smart Town, ideally both.
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Post by htfc63 on May 4, 2024 19:01:56 GMT 1
Personally the only one I would keep is Helik however he will probably move. In saying that Spencer has potential and may well be more consistent in the first division. I cannot understand why people would want to keep Pearson as he has to be one of the worst passers of the ball I have seen. The biggest reason we have been so poor this season is we have had a midfield that neither supported our defence or created chancers for our front men. Many still want Hogg to stay however he has lost his pace and fouls until he is yellow carded or as in the Leeds game gets sent off. I am under no illusions that we need a major influx of players, staff and a radical change of mindset as it will take a great amount of effort to create a winning culture.
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Post by goodbet on May 4, 2024 19:10:06 GMT 1
Personally the only one I would keep is Helik however he will probably move. In saying that Spencer has potential and may well be more consistent in the first division. I cannot understand why people would want to keep Pearson as he has to be one of the worst passers of the ball I have seen. The biggest reason we have been so poor this season is we have had a midfield that neither supported our defence or created chancers for our front men. Many still want Hogg to stay however he has lost his pace and fouls until he is yellow carded or as in the Leeds game gets sent off. I am under no illusions that we need a major influx of players, staff and a radical change of mindset as it will take a great amount of effort to create a winning culture. I don't disagree with you, but Pearson played out of position because more than one manager had no faith in an of the alternatives. He is not a good passer of the ball but is OK as a Centre back. |
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Post by mickydombat on May 4, 2024 19:47:52 GMT 1
Probably need to clear out 10 or 11, but replace them with established players not wannabes from abroad or young naive home based youth.
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Post by htfcfcfc on May 4, 2024 20:09:12 GMT 1
Happy with Nicholls OR Maxwell
Happy with Turton, Pearson, Lees, Ruffels and Spencer (if the latters attitude is good). A couple of injury prone concerns in there also
Kasumu, Rudoni and Koroma again if attitudes good.
Healey I’m happy with. Bojan…who knows at this stage.
Iorpenda looks half decent
So there’s 11 (dependent on attitudes). Sprinkle some quality around them and I think we could be ok. 5-6 signings and maybe some youth
The signings need to be starting quality and MUST include at least one ball playing midfielder, a centre back comfortable with the ball and a decent winger as i just can’t believe Pat Jones will ever be fit enough to play more than 10 games a season
Leaving/Unsure
One of the GKs
will Wiles be up to it in L1?
Maybe Jackson will be a decent squad player in League 1?
Will Balker ever be fit? Does he have the right attitude?
Sorba can do one.
Assume Headley is on the naughty list.
Ward, assume he’ll find a 2 year contract somewhere. Yuta will be off
Helik way too good
Just remembered Rhodes. Watch this space
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Post by Floyds on May 4, 2024 20:19:43 GMT 1
That 11 today would struggle in League One. It was men against boys (again). They’d get bullied all over the place.
I coached a Gaelic team this morning and a team of U9 boys vs a mixed U9 team- and that’s what watching Town has been like. Wiles and Rudoni the equivalent of girls doing cartwheels mid game and running away from the ball.
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Post by theterrier42 on May 4, 2024 20:23:59 GMT 1
Need a full new midfield 3. Nobody in our midfield can even pass wind. I reckon kasumu thinks the advertising boards are his teammates he hits them that much. Haven’t had a midfielder who can pass the ball since Mooy, and when one of the midfielders main job is to set up that’s worrying.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on May 4, 2024 21:21:40 GMT 1
We've probably got 2 strikers who will score goals in League One providing they don't want to leave, a decision needs to be made on Harratt but think he would be an asset in the lower league.
The midfield needs sorting as well along with some of the basics drilled in to the players like being able to pass to each other being a top priority.
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Post by Floyds on May 4, 2024 21:24:15 GMT 1
We've probably got 2 strikers who will score goals in League One providing they don't want to leave, a decision needs to be made on Harratt but think he would be an asset in the lower league. The midfield needs sorting as well along with some of the basics drilled in to the players like being able to pass to each other being a top priority. If we could drill in the basics like being able to run, tackle, pass and shoot we’ll be flying 👌😋 |
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Post by k1man999 on May 4, 2024 21:29:44 GMT 1
Need to try and assemble a squad or basis of one that could also compete in championship
So if promoted not a total build just adding bits of quality with solid foundations.
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