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Post by Flowerdisco on May 5, 2024 8:12:18 GMT 1
Good assessment that Tinpot Pretty much agree with all that. Some people seem to forget we are dropping down a division and some of the players that didn't cut it this season can do a job in league one. Ward for me is the interesting player. Not good enough for the championship but league one I reckon he will be fine as long as he stays fit. We are not going to attract big players simple as. We dont need or want "big" players. Whats needed is sound solid pros sprinkled with some young talent bursting through. Helik will go - and deserves to. Hes a good championship player and has proved it in 2 poor teams at this level. Sorba, diarra, headley can all disappear for the right money - none have great consistent quality, albeit i dont have the hatred for sorba some do and he mostly puts in a shift. The rest wont fetch much lets be honest. Some decent trading needed this summer. My opinion is when we sign Fred Brown or whoever from Crawley people will kick off. Not good enough. Too young. Too old. Legs have gone. Wouldn't get in a League 2 team. Never heard of him. This summer is certainly going to be interesting in terms of recruitment. I think the departures may be more telling than the signings. |
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Post by HuddsTerrier on May 5, 2024 8:15:32 GMT 1
Balker is made of glass - sell if we can because if they think the Championship is physical then they really won't like League one where there is a lot less technical ability and more "get it in the mixer for the big man to attack" attitude from opponents
Bojan - jesus that guy will be bullied in League One. I actually fear for him. Need to get rid ASAP because next year his value could plummet
Healy should be a big player if he stays
Sadly the January signings don't fit the profile of what we need (Healy aside) and wages will be big and could be used better on players up to the League One requirements
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Post by Tinpot on May 5, 2024 8:27:42 GMT 1
Need to try and assemble a squad or basis of one that could also compete in championship So if promoted not a total build just adding bits of quality with solid foundations. Doesn't work that way, sadly. Championship quality players want to play there and won't come to a L1 side on the chance we might get promoted. Agreed. Sort of. Unless there's a lot of money on the table and/or there's a massive high profile project in the offing, established high level Championship players ain't going to League 1. Wrexham and Birmingham might manage it better than anyone else in the league. As for us, I would suggest a bit of experience and leadership in midfield and up front, plus picking off the best talent in the lower leagues or those released higher up with a point to prove may serve us very well. |
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Post by Tinpot on May 5, 2024 8:32:48 GMT 1
Think turton will be fine at right back, but for the love of god we need a new left back, and have ruffles as back up I'm not seeing that as a priority TBH. Ruffels has shown he can do a job at the top end of Lg1 with Oxford, and has occasionally done the business in the Championship too. Obviously if there's a deal to be had then let's make it happen but he and Jackson competing for that place (if properly managed and coached!) should be OK. Not tearing it up, but OK. |
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Post by HuddsTerrier on May 5, 2024 8:35:24 GMT 1
Doesn't work that way, sadly. Championship quality players want to play there and won't come to a L1 side on the chance we might get promoted. Agreed. Sort of. Unless there's a lot of money on the table and/or there's a massive high profile project in the offing, established high level Championship players ain't going to League 1. Wrexham and Birmingham might manage it better than anyone else in the league. As for us, I would suggest a bit of experience and leadership in midfield and up front, plus picking off the best talent in the lower leagues or those released higher up with a point to prove may serve us very well. Fully agree with this. Someone like Phillips at Barnsley is the ideal profile to me - assuming we could get him (Barnsley may go up or Championship clubs may go for him) Phillips is a 26 year old Midfielder (good age and a position we need to improved). Barnsley Player of the season and obviously stand out at League One level so would be very likely to work out well at this level Also moving to Town would be a step up I think so rather than "doing us a favour" attitude that kind of player would genuinely be excited for the next step in his career |
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Post by k1man999 on May 5, 2024 8:42:32 GMT 1
Think turton will be fine at right back, but for the love of god we need a new left back, and have ruffles as back up I'm not seeing that as a priority TBH. Ruffels has shown he can do a job at the top end of Lg1 with Oxford, and has occasionally done the business in the Championship too. Obviously if there's a deal to be had then let's make it happen but he and Jackson competing for that place (if properly managed and coached!) should be OK. Not tearing it up, but OK. Agree Ruffles is not a priority to replace but Jackson should be no where near the team Weak, technically poor, positionaly poor, Will get even more bullied in lg 1. I know it's easier said than done but we need a new toff someone who can carry the ball and get up and down. |
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on May 5, 2024 8:45:57 GMT 1
Balker is made of glass - sell if we can because if they think the Championship is physical then they really won't like League one where there is a lot less technical ability and more "get it in the mixer for the big man to attack" attitude from opponents Bojan - jesus that guy will be bullied in League One. I actually fear for him. Need to get rid ASAP because next year his value could plummet Healy should be a big player if he stays Sadly the January signings don't fit the profile of what we need (Healy aside) and wages will be big and could be used better on players up to the League One requirements Bojan might struggle with balls hoofed up to him but in league 1 he should get more space and if his movement is good in the box he will get more chances. Rhodes looked weak and slow in the championship but thrived when dropping down. |
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Post by thomo on May 5, 2024 8:58:38 GMT 1
Think turton will be fine at right back, but for the love of god we need a new left back, and have ruffles as back up I'm not seeing that as a priority TBH. Ruffels has shown he can do a job at the top end of Lg1 with Oxford, and has occasionally done the business in the Championship too. Obviously if there's a deal to be had then let's make it happen but he and Jackson competing for that place (if properly managed and coached!) should be OK. Not tearing it up, but OK. Spencer will be first choice RB surely. The club wouldn't dare sell him. I wouldn't want to rely on Jackson in the national league. With Turton and Ruffels having a couple of long term injuries I'm worried we can fully rely on them. I still think we'll need a LB. |
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Post by HuddsTerrier on May 5, 2024 9:52:52 GMT 1
Balker is made of glass - sell if we can because if they think the Championship is physical then they really won't like League one where there is a lot less technical ability and more "get it in the mixer for the big man to attack" attitude from opponents Bojan - jesus that guy will be bullied in League One. I actually fear for him. Need to get rid ASAP because next year his value could plummet Healy should be a big player if he stays Sadly the January signings don't fit the profile of what we need (Healy aside) and wages will be big and could be used better on players up to the League One requirements Bojan might struggle with balls hoofed up to him but in league 1 he should get more space and if his movement is good in the box he will get more chances. Rhodes looked weak and slow in the championship but thrived when dropping down. I kinda of get the Rhodes comparison - they are both good finishers - but Rhodes was a beast in the Championship in his prime Rhodes could mix it a little whereas Bojan looks scared and weak with not much heart. I hope he's our 25 goal striker. I think he may struggle big time though |
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Post by oldrain on May 5, 2024 10:07:01 GMT 1
Get the video of the 101 goals Buxton team ask any signings can you play like that only a firm answer yes no problem should sign UTT
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Post by Tinpot on May 5, 2024 10:31:53 GMT 1
I'm not seeing that as a priority TBH. Ruffels has shown he can do a job at the top end of Lg1 with Oxford, and has occasionally done the business in the Championship too. Obviously if there's a deal to be had then let's make it happen but he and Jackson competing for that place (if properly managed and coached!) should be OK. Not tearing it up, but OK. Spencer will be first choice RB surely. The club wouldn't dare sell him. I wouldn't want to rely on Jackson in the national league. With Turton and Ruffels having a couple of long term injuries I'm worried we can fully rely on them. I still think we'll need a LB. I think I rate Jackson more highly than you do but you make some very valid points. Even if he is good enough as back-up in Lg1 (and I think he is) he may be needed on the RHS if Turton's injury issues continue (&/or if Spencer's form dips, or he leaves). I really don't like to see right footed players on the left & vice versa unless it's a winger who cuts inside & shoots (& even then that can become painfully predictable - see Josh Koroma for details). You can get away with it in a back 4, but I think that's it - you're "getting away with it". With a strong left-sided centre back you can probably get away with being a bit average at left back. But then, you can make the counter argument that if you have a defensively strong option at LB you can probably get away with having all right sided CBs, especially if you play a back 4. I can see the argument either way to be honest. What I think is unarguable is that our defence needs strengthening on the left hand side. Whether that's done with a defensively strong LB or a solid left-sided option at CB is debatable. Both would (if the signings were successful) solve the issue, but one or the other may ameliorate it enough to push the priorities for strengthening elsewhere. |
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Post by Detective Boyle on May 5, 2024 10:39:39 GMT 1
Feel like a lot of town fans have Stockholm syndrome with this shower of shite! Pearson and Jackson should be nowhere near the starting 11. Inability to pass a football will kill us in league 1 as well.
It’s starting to feel a lot like when we were relegated from the PL, with fans confident we would have enough to do well. You simply can’t carry players who can’t pass a football, whatever division you are in.
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Post by kwami-hodouto on May 5, 2024 10:42:41 GMT 1
Balker is made of glass - sell if we can because if they think the Championship is physical then they really won't like League one where there is a lot less technical ability and more "get it in the mixer for the big man to attack" attitude from opponents Bojan - jesus that guy will be bullied in League One. I actually fear for him. Need to get rid ASAP because next year his value could plummet Healy should be a big player if he stays Sadly the January signings don't fit the profile of what we need (Healy aside) and wages will be big and could be used better on players up to the League One requirements Why are you already writing off players that have barely been able to play? Give them a proper preseason and then see how they perform. |
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Post by HuddsTerrier on May 5, 2024 10:46:52 GMT 1
Balker is made of glass - sell if we can because if they think the Championship is physical then they really won't like League one where there is a lot less technical ability and more "get it in the mixer for the big man to attack" attitude from opponents Bojan - jesus that guy will be bullied in League One. I actually fear for him. Need to get rid ASAP because next year his value could plummet Healy should be a big player if he stays Sadly the January signings don't fit the profile of what we need (Healy aside) and wages will be big and could be used better on players up to the League One requirements Why are you already writing off players that have barely been able to play? Give them a proper preseason and then see how they perform. I think Balker if fit could be the best defender in League One - but he has had fitness issues in his career and we may need to save money Healy I think will be a big player if he stays Bojan - we've needed him in the relegation battle and he's looked really weak in his cameos. Neither JW or AB trusted him either as he's been on the bench the last two/ three months. I just don't think he's suited to lower league English football. At the moment his goals in Finland mean he would get a fee but I think he'd devalue (again on good wages) in League One if say only scored 10 at that level |
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Post by Sparrow on May 5, 2024 15:02:10 GMT 1
Nichols & Maxwell as GKs, with a young 3rd choice back up
Spencer is likely to be off, so we’ll need a new RB/RWB to replace him and complete with Turton
Ruffles and Headley complete for left back / left wing back. If Headley is one of the bad apples, then get rid and bring a replacement in. Keep Jackson as a back up for either full back position
Helik will be sold. I think they’ll keep Pearson (doesn’t he have a 1 year option) Balker should be staying i think. Lees will be fine and Ayina should be ready for League 1 now. I think we need a left footed CB
Kasumu and Wiles have shown before what they can do at League 1 level. Let Hogg go, we need to move on. Sell Rudoni. 3 new CM needed as replacements for Hogg and Rudoni, plus a playmaker. For me those 3 should be starters, with Kasumu & Wiles on the bench. Then you’ve Iorpenda, High & Austerfield as squad fillers.
Thomas will be sold. Karoma should probably be sold and Jones is injury prone. So we probably need 3 new wingers
Up front Healy, Ward & Bojan should be good option. Philips is an interesting one. 7 goals in 22 for Morcambe in League 1 before injury. Could be a good option from the bench. same with Harratt, decent as 5th choice striker. Simpson needs another loan and Hudlin should be sold back to non league. If any of Ward, Healy or Bojan are sold, they’d need replacing.
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Post by Terrier Ramone on May 5, 2024 15:27:46 GMT 1
Lees & Pearson wouldn't struggle in League 1, they will be much more useful than Balker who, on the evidence so far, would be on the sidelines more than the pitch & he certainly wouldn't want to play against the likes of Chris Martin. If Balker stays, I think he'd probably be better suited to RB/RWB than CB, he can use his pace & quality on the ball better there.
Obviously, we don't know who's staying/coming in yet but a back 4 of Balker, Pearson, Lees & Spencer/Ruffels should be top end division - remember, Lees & Pearson have coped well in the Championship when balls are pumped into the box, they struggle with smaller men with pace who run at them. I expect Helik will go.
Midfield, I expect we'll lose Rudoni to the Championship, otherwise I suspect he'd be the best midfielder in Div 3 - remember, he scored 12 in a relegated Wimbledon side that got relegated last time he was there, & he has gained much more experience, playing against far better players since. D3 is about Kasumu's level, even Hogg wouldn't be as exposed in Div 3. I would hope we get 1 (2 if Hogg or Rudoni goes, 3 if both!) 1st team CM regardless. Even Wiles "should be better" but I'm more concerned that his problems are as much down to psychological, rather than the physical part of his injury.
Strikers are taken care of, if Healey, Ward & Radulovic all stay, though there are obviously injury concerns about all 3. We have Phillips & Harratt in case of that but if we do buy a striker, I'd like a big target man who can lay the ball off to 3 attackers supporting him for Div 3.
The wide attackers & a No 10 are my main concern. I doubt we will see Burgzorg, Thomas & Koroma again so most of our budget needs to go in this area, allowing us to play 4-2-3-1. I'm not writing Jones off due to one awful sub appearance, however his injury record is shocking & we simply can't rely on him.
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Post by Niggled on May 5, 2024 15:36:44 GMT 1
Agreed. Sort of. Unless there's a lot of money on the table and/or there's a massive high profile project in the offing, established high level Championship players ain't going to League 1. Wrexham and Birmingham might manage it better than anyone else in the league. As for us, I would suggest a bit of experience and leadership in midfield and up front, plus picking off the best talent in the lower leagues or those released higher up with a point to prove may serve us very well. Fully agree with this. Someone like Phillips at Barnsley is the ideal profile to me - assuming we could get him (Barnsley may go up or Championship clubs may go for him) Phillips is a 26 year old Midfielder (good age and a position we need to improved). Barnsley Player of the season and obviously stand out at League One level so would be very likely to work out well at this level Also moving to Town would be a step up I think so rather than "doing us a favour" attitude that kind of player would genuinely be excited for the next step in his career Sounds Billy big bollocks attitude . It's not a step up coming here, they are in the same division, could even be higher.We shouldn't be losing to teams like ........................!. We need to realise we are level 3 ,same as fukin stevenage,etc. |
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Post by Torquayterrier on May 5, 2024 15:45:49 GMT 1
How many 'big names' or budget stretching signings did Ipswich make last couple of seasons? Genuine question as they went under the radar a bit for me. Some were marking them as contenders for this season so they must have done some good deals yet I looked at the line up and no names really jumped out at me. They've obviously spent well and have been coached well so it can still be done.
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Post by ringdisco on May 5, 2024 15:51:46 GMT 1
How many 'big names' or budget stretching signings did Ipswich make last couple of seasons? Genuine question as they went under the radar a bit for me. Some were marking them as contenders for this season so they must have done some good deals yet I looked at the line up and no names really jumped out at me. They've obviously spent well and have been coached well so it can still be done. Most important one was Hutchinson on loan, this year. Looking at the season before, no one stands out. George Hirst? Just a great coach, I think. |
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Post by incognito on May 5, 2024 16:06:59 GMT 1
How many 'big names' or budget stretching signings did Ipswich make last couple of seasons? Genuine question as they went under the radar a bit for me. Some were marking them as contenders for this season so they must have done some good deals yet I looked at the line up and no names really jumped out at me. They've obviously spent well and have been coached well so it can still be done. Most important one was Hutchinson on loan, this year. Looking at the season before, no one stands out. George Hirst? Just a great coach, I think. A great coach with comfortably the highest wage bill in League One (£3.4 million more than Wednesday's even). |
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