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Post by thomo on May 7, 2024 20:04:06 GMT 1
More nonsense that's been spouted all season. No ticket pricing. No manager. No calling out players. The prices and diary better be bloody good tomorrow Calling out players is a bad idea. Especially when we want rid of them, that definitely doesn’t need to happen. Obviously still awaiting André decision. Pre season in Austria is a positive start for that though. By clearly trying to persuade Andre to stay it appears Kev endorses what Andre has said about the players. |
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Post by H7 on May 7, 2024 20:08:36 GMT 1
I’d be shocked if we’ve arranged the location of preseason without the input of a first team coach, who else would make that call this early? Hints to me that AB might be staying. It looks like all will be revealed tomorrow. Big year for KN.
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Post by Orinoco on May 7, 2024 20:09:14 GMT 1
Sadford did exactly the same send a begging letter out then release season tickets details the day after!!, we got 30 crap players still under contract please please buy our product👍👍
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Post by bacunatrim46 on May 7, 2024 20:10:21 GMT 1
Interesting, at least to me, that both Nagle and AB mentioned 10 out of 12 years being near the relegation zone. Strikes me as more than a bit of a coincidence. AB had some notes on paper in front of him in that press conference last week that he was checking before he started speaking. Irrelevant too imo. Regardless of what's gone on prior relegation wouldn't have occurred had it not been for the bat shit crazy decision making by KN and his team. It's way more relevant that we've not been relegated to L1 in the past 12 years, we've also never spent £4M in January and maybe never in a single window except for the PL. Tells you all you need to know I'm afraid. I'm getting the distinct impression that the chuckle brothers have been able to convince Kev that it's mostly someone else's fault. I'm looking forward to an announcement on the exec team and coach tomorrow but I can see nothing at all changing unfortunately. I don’t think it’s fair to place the full blame onto the decisions made since KN took over. Let’s not kid ourselves, we’ve been skating on thin ice for a long time and it felt like an inevitable wait for ‘our turn’ to go down. Although there’s been some horrific decisions made this season - the appointment of Moore being the main one - our relegation has been a culmination of years worth of sh*t recruitment and poor financial decisions arguably since 2018. |
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Post by Miss Spentyouth on May 7, 2024 20:11:01 GMT 1
Seems like a charm offensive before the release of season ticket prices. All the shared pain theory with a call to stick together. We don’t know the full capabilities of AB but it seems like KN wants him to stick at it. They need to get the managerial situation sorted quickly as there is a lot of shit to sort. Fans want to see action against the poison which has set in with those players who don’t give a crap. Unity is a key component to the rebuild, and I feel that KN’s heart is in the right place but toxicity can be tricky to get rid of.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on May 7, 2024 20:13:08 GMT 1
Interesting, at least to me, that both Nagle and AB mentioned 10 out of 12 years being near the relegation zone. Strikes me as more than a bit of a coincidence. AB had some notes on paper in front of him in that press conference last week that he was checking before he started speaking. Irrelevant too imo. Regardless of what's gone on prior relegation wouldn't have occurred had it not been for the bat shit crazy decision making by KN and his team. It's way more relevant that we've not been relegated to L1 in the past 12 years, we've also never spent £4M in January and maybe never in a single window except for the PL. Tells you all you need to know I'm afraid. I'm getting the distinct impression that the chuckle brothers have been able to convince Kev that it's mostly someone else's fault. I'm looking forward to an announcement on the exec team and coach tomorrow but I can see nothing at all changing unfortunately. My point was that they both appear to be delivering a similar small message - sign they’re both on the same page as it were. |
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on May 7, 2024 20:15:09 GMT 1
Austria sounds like AB will be here. Think Wagner took them there too, would imagine a few of them will be blowing big style in those mountains. Good stuff.
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Post by royrace on May 7, 2024 20:16:02 GMT 1
Irrelevant too imo. Regardless of what's gone on prior relegation wouldn't have occurred had it not been for the bat shit crazy decision making by KN and his team. It's way more relevant that we've not been relegated to L1 in the past 12 years, we've also never spent £4M in January and maybe never in a single window except for the PL. Tells you all you need to know I'm afraid. I'm getting the distinct impression that the chuckle brothers have been able to convince Kev that it's mostly someone else's fault. I'm looking forward to an announcement on the exec team and coach tomorrow but I can see nothing at all changing unfortunately. I don’t think it’s fair to place the full blame onto the decisions made since KN took over. Let’s not kid ourselves, we’ve been skating on thin ice for a long time and it felt like an inevitable wait for ‘our turn’ to go down. Although there’s been some horrific decisions made this season - the appointment of Moore being the main one - our relegation has been a culmination of years worth of sh*t recruitment and poor financial decisions arguably since 2018. I completely disagree, it's way too easy to say it's been a culmination. A clubs fortunes can turn very quickly. Look at Brum for example, relegated because they replaced Eustace with Rooney. Idiotic decision, nothing to do with the fact they've been dicing with relegation for the past few seasons but if you were looking for an excuse you'd defo try and use it. |
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Post by Fish & Chips on May 7, 2024 20:16:13 GMT 1
That'll do for me, for the moment, a decent mea culpa. What we need to see in the coming weeks is true repentance, real action.
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Post by Mav on May 7, 2024 20:20:12 GMT 1
I'm not sure what people want? Which ever way you look at it, actions speak louder then words. He says he knows it's been shit and they're going to do something about it. Moan,moan fucking moan. Give the bloke a chance FFS. |
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Post by oneneilwarnock on May 7, 2024 20:21:51 GMT 1
Austria sounds like AB will be here. Think Wagner took them there too, would imagine a few of them will be blowing big style in those mountains. Good stuff. Altitude training works for the best cyclists in the world. Seems very logical to me that every pre season should be up at altitude. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on May 7, 2024 20:22:54 GMT 1
Feels like we're going to have a decent budget but it also feels like it's going to be massively wasted if Cartwright has ultimate say on signings.
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Post by Detective Boyle on May 7, 2024 20:22:57 GMT 1
I'm not sure what people want? Which ever way you look at it, actions speak louder then words. He says he knows it's been shit and they're going to do something about it. Moan,moan fucking moan. Give the bloke a chance FFS. It’s absolutely ridiculous. Some fans are utterly pathetic, they want KN to tell them what he had for breakfast, which hand he wipes his arse with. The guys ambition and intent is clear to see. I don’t understand where this constant craving for information has come from, I’m sure it wasn’t like this a couple of years ago. |
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Post by kjf on May 7, 2024 20:23:17 GMT 1
Hope we get someone else in breitenreiter has not been good enough since coming in
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on May 7, 2024 20:24:34 GMT 1
Austria sounds like AB will be here. Think Wagner took them there too, would imagine a few of them will be blowing big style in those mountains. Good stuff. Altitude training works for the best cyclists in the world. Seems very logical to me that every pre season should be up at altitude. Get Grigory Rodchenkov involved too and we'll be laughing |
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Post by paderbornterrier on May 7, 2024 20:25:48 GMT 1
I think it was fair enough. Just should have tagged on as a show of appreciation season ticket prices for renewals will get a £100 discount on full price season tickets.
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Post by Dan on May 7, 2024 20:26:23 GMT 1
Feels like we're going to have a decent budget but it also feels like it's going to be massively wasted if Cartwright has ultimate say on signings. You get the feeling that if Andre stays, then Cartwrights influence on recruitment will be severely reduced. |
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Post by cuz on May 7, 2024 20:31:01 GMT 1
Pre season in Austria almost certainly suggests Andre is staying... or that another different head coach is already in place. Something like that would go through the manager. We’ve done Austria before though haven’t we. It’s not a new thing but will probably help entice André to stay been close to home. Should do the Wagner survival bootcamp again! |
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Post by impact on May 7, 2024 20:32:13 GMT 1
I hope the diary has some more detail. It seems he's more comfortable with a mate interviewing him rather than journalists who have been on the whole very friendly to him and the club when harshness was required.
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Post by goodbet on May 7, 2024 20:32:16 GMT 1
Feels like we're going to have a decent budget but it also feels like it's going to be massively wasted if Cartwright has ultimate say on signings. You get the feeling that if Andre stays, then Cartwrights influence on recruitment will be severely reduced. Why keep a DoF if his influence will be severely reduced? I will wait and see what happens. |
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Post by Jack on May 7, 2024 20:33:31 GMT 1
Austria sounds like AB will be here. Think Wagner took them there too, would imagine a few of them will be blowing big style in those mountains. Good stuff. Altitude training works for the best cyclists in the world. Seems very logical to me that every pre season should be up at altitude. It's attitude that our squad need not altitude. |
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Post by King Curtis on May 7, 2024 20:35:36 GMT 1
I hope the diary has some more detail. It seems he's more comfortable with a mate interviewing him rather than journalists who have been on the whole very friendly to him and the club when harshness was required. Not a fan of this Kevin. |
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Post by Dan on May 7, 2024 20:36:51 GMT 1
We’ve done Austria before though haven’t we. It’s not a new thing but will probably help entice André to stay been close to home. Should do the Wagner survival bootcamp again! This time can we dump the players in the middle of a violent Ecuadorian Amazon tribe and see who can work their way out of it... |
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Post by always a terrier on May 7, 2024 20:38:45 GMT 1
I hope the diary has some more detail. It seems he's more comfortable with a mate interviewing him rather than journalists who have been on the whole very friendly to him and the club when harshness was required. That is embarrassing. Not liking the sound of that one bit!! |
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Post by Wingman on May 7, 2024 20:41:41 GMT 1
Should do the Wagner survival bootcamp again! This time can we dump the players in the middle of a violent Ecuadorian Amazon tribe and see who can work their way out of it... Dump them in Deighton on a Friday night with an empty cider bottle and half full vape pen as weapons. Hunger Games style. Your survive, you get a squad number. If you perish, well, hard cheese. |
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Post by specialun on May 7, 2024 20:48:05 GMT 1
I think it’s a fair letter / comment
It doesn’t make it excuses, it’s a honest reflection
Agree actions speak louder than words but at this point I’d rather hear a honest assessment and one which reaffirms commitment both short and longer term
Austria whilst just a country brings back memories of Hefele in a dressing gown (team spirit), hard work (a fit team) not one doing shots after beating the dog & duck
Tbh my only thought on reading that re operations of the football club was I’d have thought (from afar / without being involved in the day to day of the football club at all) we’d be better with Ann Hough involved than without. And ultimately that’s not going to be a decision on whether we get promoted or not next season!
Overall fine high level comms - and better judged over next few weeks months - devil in the detail and actions
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Post by turbo2 on May 7, 2024 20:56:36 GMT 1
Moan,moan fucking moan. Give the bloke a chance FFS. It’s absolutely ridiculous. Some fans are utterly pathetic, they want KN to tell them what he had for breakfast, which hand he wipes his arse with. The guys ambition and intent is clear to see. I don’t understand where this constant craving for information has come from, I’m sure it wasn’t like this a couple of years ago. If KN said he’d had a bacon sandwich for breakfast there’s some on here would say he didn’t. But can he get spending millions quickly………. |
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Post by rothwellterrier on May 7, 2024 20:56:47 GMT 1
Sod radio Leeds. They don’t give a shiny shite when you contact them to complain about their reception coverage in West Yorkshire re Town.
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Post by boooothy on May 7, 2024 20:57:33 GMT 1
Interesting, at least to me, that both Nagle and AB mentioned 10 out of 12 years being near the relegation zone. Strikes me as more than a bit of a coincidence. AB had some notes on paper in front of him in that press conference last week that he was checking before he started speaking. Irrelevant too imo. Regardless of what's gone on prior relegation wouldn't have occurred had it not been for the bat shit crazy decision making by KN and his team. It's way more relevant that we've not been relegated to L1 in the past 12 years, we've also never spent £4M in January and maybe never in a single window except for the PL. Tells you all you need to know I'm afraid. I'm getting the distinct impression that the chuckle brothers have been able to convince Kev that it's mostly someone else's fault. I'm looking forward to an announcement on the exec team and coach tomorrow but I can see nothing at all changing unfortunately. I was listening to Ian Danter (think that’s his name) Birmingham fan talking to Simon Jordan on talksport earlier. They could easily have been talking about Town. Basically that law of averages dictate if you spend seasons bottom half you eventually fall down the plug hole. What’s annoying for Birmingham fans after years of ownership issues and mismanagement and scraping above the relegation line. The season they finally got the ownership sorted with what looks like a dream takeover, was the season they finally dropped. The one season they had no excuse just straightforward bad decisions. |
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Post by 100htafc on May 7, 2024 20:59:00 GMT 1
I couldn't care less if he's avoiding Radio Leeds, to be honest. I'll make sure to take note of his diary and the questions from fans will be way more substantial than anything Mr. Ogden throws at him, as he seems to dodge the tough questions every time they should be posed.
This season has been an absolute train wreck. The club needs a complete reset to rediscover its identity and get back on track.
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