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Post by htafcokay on May 11, 2024 21:10:55 GMT 1
Corberan's yes. I know that is a minority view, before anyone feels the need to respond. 🤪 Who really cares about tactics when the results are there as they were with Corberan? If a team is winning then the vast majority of fans will be happy whatever style is played. That wasn't what I was getting at. I was comparing Rosenior's tactics to Corberan's tactics. The way his Hull side played against us down here reminded me of how Corberan played. Anti-football. |
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Post by Up the Duff. on May 11, 2024 21:32:44 GMT 1
Who really cares about tactics when the results are there as they were with Corberan? If a team is winning then the vast majority of fans will be happy whatever style is played. That wasn't what I was getting at. I was comparing Rosenior's tactics to Corberan's tactics. The way his Hull side played against us down here reminded me of how Corberan played. Anti-football. Sone people seem to forget the remit from Nagle was attacking football. I don't think he has changed his mind. Rosenior was sacked for being exactly the opposite. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on May 11, 2024 21:34:17 GMT 1
Rosenior's football is as dull as ditchwater. No thanks.
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Post by pauldaltonsboots on May 11, 2024 21:35:51 GMT 1
Id take Scott Lindsay of Crawley.
Plays great attacking football and is a strong character too who doesn’t take any shit
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Post by oneneilwarnock on May 11, 2024 21:36:48 GMT 1
Id take Scott Lindsay of Crawley. Plays great attacking football and is a strong character too who doesn’t take any shit Definitely the best of the lower league options. |
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Post by Tinpot on May 11, 2024 21:48:03 GMT 1
Duff for me, wanted him after Moore’s sacking, no reason to change now. I’ve seen Barrow twice this season, last time only three weeks or so ago at Crawley. They’re workmanlike, but no discernible style of play. I don’t think Wild would bring excitement. Realistic options, in my opinion: Alex Neil, Paul Heckingbottom, Challinor (Stockport), Richie Wellens (Leyton Orient - best side I’ve seen in L2 in 22/23 season by a mile and they’ve settled well in L1 in 23/24). Would love to see Wellens here but he just signed a new long term contract at LO a week ago. I can't see him leaving them any time soon. I can see Leyton Orient being dark horses for promotion though. |
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Post by dxterrier on May 11, 2024 21:49:40 GMT 1
Someone who will put the fear of god in the troublemakers, tell them to shape up or ship out and make them feel if they step out of line they will get walled up. Someone who will get them fit, the fitness of the squad has been at best questionable, run them until they throw up if needed.
No names in mind as there are so many issues to sort out first
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Post by pauldaltonsboots on May 11, 2024 21:55:02 GMT 1
Someone who will put the fear of god in the troublemakers, tell them to shape up or ship out and make them feel if they step out of line they will get walled up. Someone who will get them fit, the fitness of the squad has been at best questionable, run them until they throw up if needed. No names in mind as there are so many issues to sort out first That’s why I like the look of Scott Lindsay: - play excellent attacking football - got rid of players who he called ‘loose’ pros - very few injuries this season |
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Post by keefer on May 11, 2024 21:57:33 GMT 1
It's a bit of a left field call but the team that Scott Lindsey created for Crawley has really impressed me. They played the type of football that really excites me. He works with the players and develops and improves them as players. League 1 might be a step too far for him but the way he sets his team up I think he could easily become a Championship manager. This is the type of manager we have dreamed of, would we have the the courage?
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Post by pauldaltonsboots on May 11, 2024 22:05:18 GMT 1
It's a bit of a left field call but the team that Scott Lindsey created for Crawley has really impressed me. They played the type of football that really excites me. He works with the players and develops and improves them as players. League 1 might be a step too far for him but the way he sets his team up I think he could easily become a Championship manager. This is the type of manager we have dreamed of, would we have the the courage? Completely agree mate. Decent recruitment there too - Liam Kelly ran the show again tonight. Watched a few of their games and went to a match there earlier this season as my brothers business sponsors them - was really impressed by their brand of football |
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Post by rougeboy31 on May 11, 2024 22:05:59 GMT 1
Any manager who has done well to create something out of a shitshow, or rebuilding it. Andre was shocked at how we do things. We have to be honest with someone and they have to know what it takes. As far as I’m aware Crawley were a circus the last couple of years and are clearly doing well now. That kind of personality and mentality is what we need.
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Post by BlueValour on May 11, 2024 22:17:40 GMT 1
Cummon Admins - add Scott Lindsay to the poll, please!
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Post by keefer on May 11, 2024 22:31:37 GMT 1
Cummon Admins - add Scott Lindsay to the poll, please! He would certainly get my vote. By the way it's Lindsey not Lindsay |
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Post by bigtruck on May 11, 2024 22:34:53 GMT 1
Someone who will put the fear of god in the troublemakers, tell them to shape up or ship out and make them feel if they step out of line they will get walled up. Someone who will get them fit, the fitness of the squad has been at best questionable, run them until they throw up if needed. No names in mind as there are so many issues to sort out first But it’s not the 80/90s. A Shape up or ship out doesn’t really work anymore as it’s more likely to be shape up or we’ll try and sell you but you dont have to accept any offers and still collect your 5000-150000 per week playing with the kids, whilst we still struggle for results and end up sacking the manager anyway leaving you with a clean slate with the next guy. Manager philosophy probably means more to fans than it does owners to be honest. In response to Corberan, the footy was dire but we won games. I still went to the final but I never really enjoyed watching us play. Lee Clark was some of the best football I’ve seen. Clark won bugger all. Warnock and Jackos footie was dire at times but we achieved things. Wagner is the only one of recent memory that did both and even that’s being generous. Fans want a “style” owners don’t really care but want/need results. It’s the search for someone to do both that gets clubs into trouble. Pulis at Stoke is a prime example. So if I want to get excited and go to as many games I can because of the entertainment (and probably buy a season ticket) then I want a Lee Clark type. If I’m not bothered if I miss more games than not but we keep grinding out 1-0s and get another trip to wembley, but be apathetic if we win or lose then go find me the next Tony Pulis type. |
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Post by rougeboy31 on May 11, 2024 22:37:51 GMT 1
Someone who will put the fear of god in the troublemakers, tell them to shape up or ship out and make them feel if they step out of line they will get walled up. Someone who will get them fit, the fitness of the squad has been at best questionable, run them until they throw up if needed. No names in mind as there are so many issues to sort out first But it’s not the 80/90s. A Shape up or ship out doesn’t really work anymore as it’s more likely to be shape up or we’ll try and sell you but you dont have to accept any offers and still collect your 5000-150000 per week playing with the kids, whilst we still struggle for results and end up sacking the manager anyway leaving you with a clean slate with the next guy. Manager philosophy probably means more to fans than it does owners to be honest. In response to Corberan, the footy was dire but we won games. I still went to the final but I never really enjoyed watching us play. Lee Clark was some of the best football I’ve seen. Clark won bugger all. Warnock and Jackos footie was dire at times but we achieved things. Wagner is the only one of recent memory that did both and even that’s being generous. Fans want a “style” owners don’t really care but want/need results. It’s the search for someone to do both that gets clubs into trouble. Pulis at Stoke is a prime example. So if I want to get excited and go to as many games I can because of the entertainment (and probably buy a season ticket) then I want a Lee Clark type. If I’m not bothered if I miss more games than not but we keep grinding out 1-0s and get another trip to wembley, but be apathetic if we win or lose then go find me the next Tony Pulis type. Agree on the Carlos thing, I absolutely lost love for town that season despite doing so well. Was so boring and had no passion, I couldn’t understand what people liked so much. I just think as a fan you want entertainment, people say they prefer winning but for me I’d like a happy medium. |
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Post by alfredsterrier on May 11, 2024 23:46:45 GMT 1
Kevin Muscat.
Random but said it before.
Maybe if I say it often enough it could happen😂
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Post by terriers2000 on May 12, 2024 0:15:20 GMT 1
Waiting for another Cartwright disaster
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on May 12, 2024 0:42:05 GMT 1
But it’s not the 80/90s. A Shape up or ship out doesn’t really work anymore as it’s more likely to be shape up or we’ll try and sell you but you dont have to accept any offers and still collect your 5000-150000 per week playing with the kids, whilst we still struggle for results and end up sacking the manager anyway leaving you with a clean slate with the next guy. Manager philosophy probably means more to fans than it does owners to be honest. In response to Corberan, the footy was dire but we won games. I still went to the final but I never really enjoyed watching us play. Lee Clark was some of the best football I’ve seen. Clark won bugger all. Warnock and Jackos footie was dire at times but we achieved things. Wagner is the only one of recent memory that did both and even that’s being generous. Fans want a “style” owners don’t really care but want/need results. It’s the search for someone to do both that gets clubs into trouble. Pulis at Stoke is a prime example. So if I want to get excited and go to as many games I can because of the entertainment (and probably buy a season ticket) then I want a Lee Clark type. If I’m not bothered if I miss more games than not but we keep grinding out 1-0s and get another trip to wembley, but be apathetic if we win or lose then go find me the next Tony Pulis type. Agree on the Carlos thing, I absolutely lost love for town that season despite doing so well. Was so boring and had no passion, I couldn’t understand what people liked so much. I just think as a fan you want entertainment, people say they prefer winning but for me I’d like a happy medium. The football was so tediously boring that season despite getting to the play off final. |
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Post by Big Jim on May 12, 2024 2:13:40 GMT 1
I don't really get why a lot of people aren't in favour of Rosenior. I get their owner sacked him because he wasn't attacking enough, but so what? What's with this current craze to playing free-flowing attacking football?
We've been shipping goals for fun this season, so for Rosenior to come in, give us an identity, make us defensively solid and difficult to beat, what's the problem with that?
People are hell-bent on this Jurgen Klopp-esque heavy metal style football. We don't have Mo Salah and Darwin Nunez, we have Pat Jones and Danny Ward.
I'll take being defensively solid, scoring a few goals, and picking up points.
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Post by robhtfc on May 12, 2024 7:04:15 GMT 1
I don't really get why a lot of people aren't in favour of Rosenior. I get their owner sacked him because he wasn't attacking enough, but so what? What's with this current craze to playing free-flowing attacking football?We've been shipping goals for fun this season, so for Rosenior to come in, give us an identity, make us defensively solid and difficult to beat, what's the problem with that? People are hell-bent on this Jurgen Klopp-esque heavy metal style football. We don't have Mo Salah and Darwin Nunez, we have Pat Jones and Danny Ward. I'll take being defensively solid, scoring a few goals, and picking up points. Because people are fed up of being bored shitless and would actually like to be entertained for a change. If you are bored out of your mind week after week, then season cards are not good value for money no matter how cheap they are. |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on May 12, 2024 7:17:31 GMT 1
I don't really get why a lot of people aren't in favour of Rosenior. I get their owner sacked him because he wasn't attacking enough, but so what? What's with this current craze to playing free-flowing attacking football? We've been shipping goals for fun this season, so for Rosenior to come in, give us an identity, make us defensively solid and difficult to beat, what's the problem with that? People are hell-bent on this Jurgen Klopp-esque heavy metal style football. We don't have Mo Salah and Darwin Nunez, we have Pat Jones and Danny Ward. I'll take being defensively solid, scoring a few goals, and picking up points. We won’t have Fabio Carvalho up front for a start. Judging by the hull team he made them less than the sum of their parts going forward, whereas we need the opposite. After the last few years people will want more exciting, attacking football as well. |
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Post by Tinpot on May 12, 2024 7:31:37 GMT 1
Rosenior's football is as dull as ditchwater. No thanks. This. To those who say "who cares as long as you're winning" I have a couple of responses: 1) Where's the guarantee that we'll win? If that could be guaranteed then I might be on board but it can't. Darren Moore won a lot of games at Massive but was shite here. Chris Hughton had a great CV from his time at Newcastle and Brighton but was dreadful at Notts Forest...etc. 2) Corberan overachieved vs any reasonable expectations that anyone had, yet we didn't - as a fan base - take to him as we have some others in that role. 3) We're (presumably!) about to have a rebuild/reset. Whoever comes in is going to set the tone for what sort of club we're going to be. A lot of players will (hopefully!) be leaving this summer. So we can bring in players to fit a particular style rather than having to adapt a style to whoever is in the building. Why not start with someone who seeks to play a more attack-minded brand? |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on May 12, 2024 7:48:26 GMT 1
Rosenior is completely obsessed with passing out from the back. Even when they were chasing a goal in the final seconds of games he demanded his players passed it through the thirds and recycled it backwards if necessary to work a better opening as opposed to launching it in to the box.
Somehow I can't see that being too wise in league one so it'd be interesting if he would adapt to the level he's at.
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Post by JG Mellor on May 12, 2024 10:35:41 GMT 1
But it’s not the 80/90s. A Shape up or ship out doesn’t really work anymore as it’s more likely to be shape up or we’ll try and sell you but you dont have to accept any offers and still collect your 5000-150000 per week playing with the kids, whilst we still struggle for results and end up sacking the manager anyway leaving you with a clean slate with the next guy. Manager philosophy probably means more to fans than it does owners to be honest. In response to Corberan, the footy was dire but we won games. I still went to the final but I never really enjoyed watching us play. Lee Clark was some of the best football I’ve seen. Clark won bugger all. Warnock and Jackos footie was dire at times but we achieved things. Wagner is the only one of recent memory that did both and even that’s being generous. Fans want a “style” owners don’t really care but want/need results. It’s the search for someone to do both that gets clubs into trouble. Pulis at Stoke is a prime example. So if I want to get excited and go to as many games I can because of the entertainment (and probably buy a season ticket) then I want a Lee Clark type. If I’m not bothered if I miss more games than not but we keep grinding out 1-0s and get another trip to wembley, but be apathetic if we win or lose then go find me the next Tony Pulis type. Agree on the Carlos thing, I absolutely lost love for town that season despite doing so well. Was so boring and had no passion, I couldn’t understand what people liked so much. I just think as a fan you want entertainment, people say they prefer winning but for me I’d like a happy medium. Beggars can't be choosers, fella.  |
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Post by steo1986 on May 12, 2024 11:11:50 GMT 1
Kevin Muscat. Random but said it before. Maybe if I say it often enough it could happen😂 Would of had him in the championship too as his Melbourne victory team played very good football and you look at his stats hes done really well, also well travelled with working in japan and china and also Australia so will have plenty of contacts plus hes English |
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Post by steo1986 on May 12, 2024 11:15:30 GMT 1
I don't really get why a lot of people aren't in favour of Rosenior. I get their owner sacked him because he wasn't attacking enough, but so what? What's with this current craze to playing free-flowing attacking football? We've been shipping goals for fun this season, so for Rosenior to come in, give us an identity, make us defensively solid and difficult to beat, what's the problem with that? People are hell-bent on this Jurgen Klopp-esque heavy metal style football. We don't have Mo Salah and Darwin Nunez, we have Pat Jones and Danny Ward. I'll take being defensively solid, scoring a few goals, and picking up points. The problem is Nagle wants attacking football if that's the case Rosenior is ruled out more so if there chairman also said he wasent attack minded enough think when i read an article hes more possession based pass it around football if thats what the chairman wants who are we to argue |
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Post by steo1986 on May 12, 2024 11:20:13 GMT 1
Rosenior is completely obsessed with passing out from the back. Even when they were chasing a goal in the final seconds of games he demanded his players passed it through the thirds and recycled it backwards if necessary to work a better opening as opposed to launching it in to the box. Somehow I can't see that being too wise in league one so it'd be interesting if he would adapt to the level he's at. Plus i read an article on one of the hull papers that he said he wont ever change passing out from the back that's the way he sees football and that's way he does it simple as, which the article also read that he also said the fans didn't like that he wouldn't change so for me is he for our club he's got a 1 set mind and if he doesn't want to change will it cause more hassle between chairman and then down to the fans watching it |
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Post by schindlersmissed on May 12, 2024 11:20:33 GMT 1
Rosenior is completely obsessed with passing out from the back. Even when they were chasing a goal in the final seconds of games he demanded his players passed it through the thirds and recycled it backwards if necessary to work a better opening as opposed to launching it in to the box. Somehow I can't see that being too wise in league one so it'd be interesting if he would adapt to the level he's at. Playing out obsessively was Notts county’s style in Conference and that worked well. |
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Post by steo1986 on May 12, 2024 11:30:30 GMT 1
Rosenior is completely obsessed with passing out from the back. Even when they were chasing a goal in the final seconds of games he demanded his players passed it through the thirds and recycled it backwards if necessary to work a better opening as opposed to launching it in to the box. Somehow I can't see that being too wise in league one so it'd be interesting if he would adapt to the level he's at. Playing out obsessively was Notts county’s style in Conference and that worked well. It says a lot when Notts County can do it better than Huddersfield Town! Town are all on doing the basics! |
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Post by steo1986 on May 12, 2024 11:34:01 GMT 1
Looks like Duff out of the running. Theo Chandler theo_Chand Believe #BarnsleyFC are pressing ahead with Michael Duff to return to Oakwell as manager. Duff departed the club for Swansea a year ago however is now keen on a reunion, Huddersfield also looked at Duff but are currently looking elsewhere. #htafc Deal not done but advancing. |
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